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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: CurtissP-6EHawk on August 26, 2004, 06:29:10 PM
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Well I was a few days off on the nujmber one rank climb but I am getting close. I predicted he would be #1 by Tuesday. Well, today is Thursday and he is just up to #3. Friday he was #20. Just yesterday he had a GV rank of #200 which kept him at #12 over all. Today he ranks #22 in GVs. Now he must still improve his Bomber and GV score to pass up Truekill for the #1 rank. Can he do it?
A few base captures will put him over the top! Currently, 0 Base captures.
PS, Eskimo I am not picking on ya bud, I just think its funny!
..............Fighter...... Bomber...... Attack...... Vehicle/Boat........ Total
Kills.......... 9 .................0........... ... 62................. 1................... 72
Assists..... 1................. 0 ...............6 ..................0 ....................7
Sorties .....2 .................5 .............37.............. .... 3 ...................47
Landed.... 2................. 3 .............18.............. .... 3 ....................26
Bailed ......0 ..................0 ..............2 ..................0 .....................2
Ditched ....0 .................0 ...............5............. ..... 0 .....................5
Captured .0 .................1........... ..... 1 .................0........... .......... 2
Death ......0 ..................1.......... .... 11 ................0............ ........ 12
Disco .......0 ..................0.......... ...... 0 .................0 .....................0
Time hh:mm:ss 01:03:55 01:23:40 07:18:19 00:16:59 10:02:53
Rank .......6 ..................12 .............4 ...................22........ .......... 3
Get the idea yet? :aok
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I think its entertaining too Hawk. TK has been spawncamping GV's in the MA most the week so he might lose his top spot in the CT if he's not careful. :)
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heheh
Really though, its not my intent to pick on anyone. I just want to point out why I think scoring needs to be droped. Someone can come online and fly one sortie and rank #1 for the whole month while those that play constantly are not so furtunate. Also, its plain to see what drives certain players to play certain ways.....just to score!
You just cant come into the arena and fly all the time and expect to keep a high rank.
Take a look at the #1 Fighter;
Pilot: emodin
Fighter Bomber Attack Vehicle/Boat Total
Kills 33 0 0 0 33
Assists 14 0 0 0 14
Sorties 14 0 0 0 14
Landed 9 0 0 0 9
Bailed 0 0 0 0 0
Ditched 0 0 0 0 0
Captured 0 0 0 0 0
Death 5 0 0 0 5
Disco 0 0 0 0 0
Time hh:mm:ss 02:54:54 00:00:00 00:00:00 00:00:00 02:54:54
Rank 1 257 180 206 138
Out of a 30 day month, he plays one night for 3 hours and keeps the #1 rank. You cant argue with the scores but you can argue how long or how much one plays :D
Look at the pilot that ranks #2 in Fighter;
Pilot: 2shad4u
1 Sortie
1 Land
4 Kills
15 minutes
Ranks #2 for the month
Pilot Rank #3
Swoop
Kills 28
Assists 2
Sorties 11
Landed 7
Bailed 0
Ditched 0
Captured 0
Death 4
Disco 0
Time hh:mm:ss 04:18:59
Rank 3
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
Well I was a few days off on the nujmber one rank climb but I am getting close. I predicted he would be #1 by Tuesday. Well, today is Thursday and he is just up to #3. Friday he was #20. Just yesterday he had a GV rank of #200 which kept him at #12 over all. Today he ranks #22 in GVs. Now he must still improve his Bomber and GV score to pass up Truekill for the #1 rank. Can he do it?
A few base captures will put him over the top! Currently, 0 Base captures.
PS, Eskimo I am not picking on ya bud, I just think its funny!
..............Fighter...... Bomber...... Attack...... Vehicle/Boat........ Total
Kills.......... 9 .................0........... ... 62................. 1................... 72
Assists..... 1................. 0 ...............6 ..................0 ....................7
Sorties .....2 .................5 .............37.............. .... 3 ...................47
Landed.... 2................. 3 .............18.............. .... 3 ....................26
Bailed ......0 ..................0 ..............2 ..................0 .....................2
Ditched ....0 .................0 ...............5............. ..... 0 .....................5
Captured .0 .................1........... ..... 1 .................0........... .......... 2
Death ......0 ..................1.......... .... 11 ................0............ ........ 12
Disco .......0 ..................0.......... ...... 0 .................0 .....................0
Time hh:mm:ss 01:03:55 01:23:40 07:18:19 00:16:59 10:02:53
Rank .......6 ..................12 .............4 ...................22........ .......... 3
Get the idea yet? :aok
I'm a teacher, school just started this week and I've been very busy. I'm sorry I let you down. I'll try to milk some bases this weekend... that is if the weather is bad and the CT fights are dull...
:)
eskimo
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
heheh
Really though, its not my intent to pick on anyone. I just want to point out why I think scoring needs to be droped. Someone can come online and fly one sortie and rank #1 for the whole month while those that play constantly are not so furtunate. Also, its plain to see what drives certain players to play certain ways.....just to score!
Someone can rank #1 in fighters in the CT in just one sortie because the vast majority of CT stats pretty much suck (compared to the MA). If a guy like Fester were to drop in during the right set up and at the right time, he’d probably rank #1 after a sortie or two. There just are not enough players to make points critical to having a good score. There are probably a hundred MA guys who could pop in to the CT and rank #1 overall in just a few hours… So what? It is what it is. Take it or leave it. It’s not being forced down anyone’s throat.
I’ve found that I can fly in attack mode almost all of the time and do whatever I want with out any thought of score and rank well in that area, even defend ganged fields. For fighter rank I just don’t switch to fighter mode until I see a decent fight that I can enter in a plane that I do well in, and try not to get too stupid. Believe it or not, I don’t think about score/rank that much. At least 80% of the time that I’m playing I’m just in it to mix it up, get some cheap thrills and to have a good laugh. Usually when I’m doing a milk/score bomber or GV run, it’s because I’m bored with the lack of good fights.
I know a lot of folks think that all I care about is score/rank. It’s really just one of many things in AH that I get a kick out of, usually when I’m bored with everything else. If scores and rank were to go away I wouldn’t do most things any differently, especially when I’m in a single engine fighter.
eskimo
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Somebody looks at the scores in the ct?
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Emodin's a squaddie of mine and in his defense other than trying to see how high of a hit % he can get air to air in his Yak he doesn't really play for score, he just does what he finds fun which often times gets him a pretty good score (very proficient in fighters and gv's)
I dragged him in to the CT one night because there was a good furball and he happened to get a lot kills... the bastard... I couldn't land a kill to save my life.... grrrr......
:)
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no1 can beat me ill stay in the CT milkrunning if i have to muahahahahahahahahaha :lol :lol :lol :lol
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i might go get rank 1 just to piss you off ;) :D
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Originally posted by Furball
i might go get rank 1 just to piss you off ;) :D
You couldn't even if you tried.
eskimo
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Originally posted by eskimo2
You couldn't even if you tried.
eskimo
Furbs :
(http://figz.com/~deters/photos/icons/00Stuff-own3d.jpg)
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I just wanted to remind you guys that I dont mind what ever it is you do. I just comented on how silly the scoring system is in the CT. The scoring system favors those who dont fly a lot but kill when they do fly. Its just funny to me :)
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Originally posted by eskimo2
You couldn't even if you tried.
eskimo
if i can rank 1 in MA im sure i can in ct ;)
Then again milkrunning undefended bases aint my thang.
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With the lack of GVs in this map and the distance now between bombing targets, he may not make it ;) GV vs Objects or a filed capture would put him over the top.
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Originally posted by Furball
if i can rank 1 in MA im sure i can in ct ;)
Then again milkrunning undefended bases aint my thang.
So your saying you won't because its too easy? Come on, let's see you try.
eskimo
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Damage / Deaths + 1
964.96325 (105)
0 (0)
341339.92505 (1)
Damage / Sorties
964.96325 (102)
0 (0)
113779.97502 (1)
Hit percentage
66.667 % (98)
0 % (0)
0 % (224)
Points
1929.92649 (112)
0 (0)
341339.92505 (7)
Field Captures
0 (272)
0 (0)
0 (224)
nerer nener nener!:D
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Originally posted by eskimo2
So your saying you won't because its too easy? Come on, let's see you try.
eskimo
No, im saying its not my style:-
Originally posted by Furball
if i can rank 1 in MA im sure i can in ct ;)
Then again milkrunning undefended bases aint my thang.
Dont get yer panties in a bunch, i was aiming this:-
Originally posted by Furball
i might go get rank 1 just to piss you off ;) :D
At truekil, due to this:-
Originally posted by TrueKill
no1 can beat me ill stay in the CT milkrunning if i have to muahahahahahahahahaha :lol :lol :lol :lol
And if you notice i was actually joking. No need to get all defensive of your precious score whoring. Only time i really give a damn (i used to keep lowish in MA due to CV control) about rank is 1) when the shootout was on 2) i wanted to be last person in AH1 to be ranked #1. (i achieved both)
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Originally posted by Furball
No, im saying its not my style:-
Dont get yer panties in a bunch, i was aiming this:-
At truekil, due to this:-
And if you notice i was actually joking. No need to get all defensive of your precious score whoring. Only time i really give a damn (i used to keep lowish in MA due to CV control) about rank is 1) when the shootout was on 2) i wanted to be last person in AH1 to be ranked #1. (i achieved both)
LOL Furball, I was trying to antagonize you. It would be nice if someone else attempted to rank #1 in the CT. I was just trying to give you an incentive to prove something. I guess that’s kind of hard to do without sounding serious, sorry.
Before the CT came about I used to fly in the MA too. It was actually a challenge to rank #1 because there were a number of decent players who tried; Mitsu, Fariz, Citabria, winqck, AKNimitz, etc. (I’m sure that it has gotten much tougher since.). It would be more fun if others tried in the CT as well.
eskimo
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Originally posted by eskimo2
LOL Furball, I was trying to antagonize you. It would be nice if someone else attempted to rank #1 in the CT. I was just trying to give you an incentive to prove something. I guess that’s kind of hard to do without sounding serious, sorry.
Before the CT came about I used to fly in the MA too. It was actually a challenge to rank #1 because there were a number of decent players who tried; Mitsu, Fariz, Citabria, winqck, AKNimitz, etc. (I’m sure that it has gotten much tougher since.). It would be more fun if others tried in the CT as well.
eskimo
I can game the game, wanna see?
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
I can game the game, wanna see?
Yeah.
eskimo
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hawk, you don't get ranking points for using field/ship guns.
:D
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Is AKNimitz still around? I used to fly with him a loooong ways back in AH1. We had some fun deep Lanc missions together.
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I noticed there was a couple in the CT during Pac time , so I thought I'd pop in and see if there was a fight or something.
There was 2 guys / same team , milkrunning and capturing bases. One of them had a top 20 rank next to his name.
It's amazing what the thrill of score and rank does to some people. That would the most boring waste of time I could possibly imagine, capturing fields in an empty arena.
Is there really a need for scoring in the CT ? Does it mean anything to anybody , particularly when it's empty half the time , and folks are in there milkrunning.
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Originally posted by Redd
I noticed there was a couple in the CT during Pac time , so I thought I'd pop in and see if there was a fight or something.
There was 2 guys / same team , milkrunning and capturing bases. One of them had a top 20 rank next to his name.
It's amazing what the thrill of score and rank does to some people. That would the most boring waste of time I could possibly imagine, capturing fields in an empty arena.
Is there really a need for scoring in the CT ? Does it mean anything to anybody , particularly when it's empty half the time , and folks are in there milkrunning.
There is no room for scores in the CT. That is what I am trying to get across to folks. I actually like the idea of holding off on the score tally untill the end of the tour
There are a few guys that are score potatos and they deny it. This is the sole purpose on why they fly. They do it in the CT because they CAN NOT do it in the MA. I can and have proven that they are. You dont just come into the arena and get a good score with out knowing how. There is nothing wrong with knowing how to do it. There is really nothing wrong with doing it. But dening it is another thing. :aok
Just a few days ago I ranked somewere around 30 for bombing. This I had about 60 sorties bombing stuff & just screwing around and even getting killed. Very unorganised just having fun. So two days ago I took a look at the scores and figured out what I needed to do to get bomber rank # 1. After 10 sorties (to make up for the 30 unproductive sorties) I now rank #2. After last night and maybe one or two more nights, I will rank #1. It can be done but you have to be doing it on purpose. So for those that say they are not, most are just plain liers. There are a few that are dedicated. I think truekill is a dedicated bomber pilot! He is always bombing stuff. Often times, the more you fly the worse your averages gets, the worse you score gets.
There is NO WAY you can Rank # 1 across the board and not be score whoring.
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I went into the CT the other day and even watched them milk run and took a panzer out to watch.. they attacked me and I defended myself.. But they said it was not milking when I was defending. When I was not just watching.. They were on the same eam and the usual peeps too.....
I like to have fun and fight and fly but some peeps like this scoring thing.....
Lets change the scoring to a thing of score and then when you Die it gets rest instead of a monthly thing........ But that wouldn't work either because they would only come in when the CT is empty...
So Lets just get rid of scoring all together. We don't even need the perk points because the plane set is limited anyhow....
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One problem i see with getting rid of the score's is when we have pac setups and people beach the carriers next to base's. Those of us who are regulars try to keep them at a distance so that we can furball or whatever. Without the score's people who come in from the other Arena's will beach and when we try jto move them out of the way they will just move them back. It is nice to see that my score is getting better each month in the CT but we don't need the bloody thing i go into the CT to have fun and yak with everyone in there.
We don't need the bloody score's
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
There is NO WAY you can Rank # 1 across the board and not be score whoring.
Can rank 1 in fighter without score whoring, and possibly attack. Gv's and bombers are another matter.
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Originally posted by Furball
Can rank 1 in fighter without score whoring, and possibly attack. Gv's and bombers are another matter.
What part of rank #1 "ACROSS THE BOARD" did you not understand? Sure, you can come in and fly a few sorties, get a few kills and not play for the rest of the month :rolleyes:
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Um... I got #1 in fighter and I didn't potato it....
:p
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I see that! Again ;) , What part of ACROSS THE BOARD do you not understand either?
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
I see that! Again ;) , What part of ACROSS THE BOARD do you not understand either?
you mean across the boards, like you've done with several topics?
:p
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yeap
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From eskimo:
"Someone can rank #1 in fighters in the CT in just one sortie because the vast majority of CT stats pretty much suck (compared to the MA). If a guy like Fester were to drop in during the right set up and at the right time, he’d probably rank #1 after a sortie or two. There just are not enough players to make points critical to having a good score. There are probably a hundred MA guys who could pop in to the CT and rank #1 overall in just a few hours…"
I tend to disagree. Maybe it's just me, but I feel that the average pilot in the CT is a much dangerous one than in the MA.
Some very good sticks hang around in the CT, and Fester, no more than anyone, is NOT invincible.
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
What part of rank #1 "ACROSS THE BOARD" did you not understand? Sure, you can come in and fly a few sorties, get a few kills and not play for the rest of the month :rolleyes:
which part OF MY POST did you not understand?
if you READ my post AGAIN you will SEE that i am AGREEING that you CANNOT RANK 1 ACROSS THE BOARD WITHOUT SCOREWHORING. i MERELY STATED that you can be #1 in fighter and possibly attack BUT NOT BOMBER OR GV.
Ignoramus.
Originally posted by Furball
Can rank 1 in fighter without score whoring, and possibly attack. Gv's and bombers are another matter.
oh. and for effect... :rolleyes:
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Toss the top scorer alone in a dogfight against Furbie, Shane and Ack-Ack :D
(The nastiest ones I remember in a quick glance)
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Toss the top scorer alone in a dogfight against Furbie, Shane and Ack-Ack
Anytime:aok ( im not really a "top scorer" though)
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Bah, Furbs ain't nuthin'.
:D
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Originally posted by DJ111
Bah, Furbs ain't nuthin'.
Deej! i am your faaathaar! :D
and thanks Angus, although i kinda sux now because i rarely play!
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What do I not do for an old squaddie ;)
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Originally posted by Angus
From eskimo:
"Someone can rank #1 in fighters in the CT in just one sortie because the vast majority of CT stats pretty much suck (compared to the MA). If a guy like Fester were to drop in during the right set up and at the right time, he’d probably rank #1 after a sortie or two. There just are not enough players to make points critical to having a good score. There are probably a hundred MA guys who could pop in to the CT and rank #1 overall in just a few hours…"
I tend to disagree. Maybe it's just me, but I feel that the average pilot in the CT is a much dangerous one than in the MA.
Some very good sticks hang around in the CT, and Fester, no more than anyone, is NOT invincible.
LOL, everyone accuses me of being nothing but a score potato, then they don’t believe I know much about it?
Just this tour I ranked # 1 overall and spent less than 4 hours in Fighter, Bomber & GV modes combined.
Looking back a few tours, I’ve ranked #3 in fighters in less than 8 MINUTES; that’s right, less time than it takes most folks to get to alt in one sortie. The CT ranks are NOT competitive. Four other Tours I’ve ranked between #3 and #7 in fighters in 27 to 45 minutes.
In bombers I’ve ranked from #1 to #4 in 30 to 60 minutes repeatedly.
I like GVs and like tank fights, so I spend more time purely playing for fun than whoring. I have, however, ranked very high in an hour or two. #1 GV rank in the CT could be potatod in less than an hour.
A lot of guys in the MA are way more serious about score, and have enough skill to rank well. Sure, the average CT player may be a better pilot than the average MA guy, but the MA has 10 to 30 times the number of players and many of those players spend a lot more time playing. The best MA players are way better than the average MA player. If the top 30 MA guys wanted to fight for best rank in the CT, they’d find it to be a cake walk, I know.
If I can rank #1 with little effort, so could a bunch of MA guys.
eskimo
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This chart illustrates my point exactly.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/284_1094173342_mavsct.gif)
Compare these single sortie (vulch) tours from the CT and MA.
Their K/Ds and K/Ss are identical.
K/T is nearly Identical.
Hit % is much higher in the CT, but is insignificant since MA Hit % rank is still at #20.
Points in the MA sortie are almost exactly triple the CT points due to the hitting power and big clip of the Chog Hispanos. In spite of the very high points for a single sortie, the ending MA rank is pushed all the way to #150. Too many MA players shoot down a heck of a lot of planes to make it possible to rank very high in the MA in just one or two sorties.
eskimo
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Originally posted by Furball
Deej! i am your faaathaar! :D
No wonder I'm so ugly!
I hate you!!!
:mad:
:D