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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: zorstorer on August 27, 2004, 01:11:05 PM
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HT is there any way to maybe have a contest for the skinners / sounds guys togive the winners some free AH2 time? I think it could be a cool way to have the community thank them for their efforts?
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or you could just set up a paypal account.
HTC gave us features we requested, and now they are to give free accounts to the users of the requested features?
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Maybe they could pay me not to post skins. I guarantee I could generate more horribly painted ill fitting skins than anyone else out there. HTC is actually saving $$$ by not having to review them. This savings should be passed on to me.
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Originally posted by zorstorer
HT is there any way to maybe have a contest for the skinners / sounds guys togive the winners some free AH2 time? I think it could be a cool way to have the community thank them for their efforts?
And exactly how is the "Community" giving them free time?
HiTech
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Originally posted by hitech
And exactly how is the "Community" giving them free time?
HiTech
community=hitech:D
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Originally posted by JB73
i like the idea, maybe put up a pop uo survey on entering the arena, liek the surveys you have done in the past.
1 vote for sound pack...
then maybe a few votes for skins. have each submitter choose the single one they want in the competition. then have those the choices, allow 2 or 3 votes in all.
offer a "do next time" so people can go look in case they forgot which skin was their favorite,
maybe the "prize" could be 1 month free subscription. that would only be $29.90 out of HTC profits, but a great fun morale booster IMHO.
oh well my 2¢
Thanks JB73, at least someone liked it :)
Sorry just trying to get some positive community involvement, seems most people are into the negative side. Seemed to be a good way to give some recognition for a tough job done well.
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Originally posted by zorstorer
Seemed to be a good way to give some recognition for a tough job done well.
I just don't understand what you mean. Should we add $1 to the monthly fee for a "community trust" and vote on how to reward skinners or something..?
-Jinx
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Maybe it would be a nice offer for HT to grant a free month for each accepted skin?
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And HiTech could spin the wheel and see what HTC "community" member will pay that subscription.
People make skins sounds,terrain,etc, Because they want to give back to the "game" they have enjoyed for so long. Compensation is the last think on their minds ( or maybe I should speak for myself) I get enjoyment from seeing people flying in a terrain I helped create.
NUTTZ
Originally posted by JB73
i like the idea, maybe put up a pop uo survey on entering the arena, liek the surveys you have done in the past.
1 vote for sound pack...
then maybe a few votes for skins. have each submitter choose the single one they want in the competition. then have those the choices, allow 2 or 3 votes in all.
offer a "do next time" so people can go look in case they forgot which skin was their favorite,
maybe the "prize" could be 1 month free subscription. that would only be $29.90 out of HTC profits, but a great fun morale booster IMHO.
oh well my 2¢
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Ok I'll spell it out...
Much like JB73's idea.
The community (read players) votes on a skin or 2 and a sound pack maybe even a map. HT could then "GIVE" those players who won a month free or something like that. No one here has ever recieved a award from a group before? It's the little things like this that really add to a sense of community. No I am not asking for a 1$ donation from anyone or an increase to the price. Yes I think that the community getting together to single out a few exeptional skinners and sound guys would be a good (read constuctive) way for the community to get together.
But hey thats just me :aok
(Open season) :D
Here is another thought....think of it as a collective "Thank you"... something people feel is not needed these days which is sad indeed.
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Why don`t you just go ahead and mail HT a check for Ohhhhhh......say 6 months fees. Then we can all get together and pick a winner for the next 6 months, every month.. I know you wouldn`t mind. :D
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What really astounds me is the resistance to an idea that can only help the player community. It's not like HT will have to raise his monthly rate from 14.95 a month to 14.96 a month to cover the 29.90 it would cost him. I suppose amidst all the cries of foul play and general whining a decient constructive idea gets lost in the noise. :rolleyes:
BTW I am now taping the 2990 pennies together to mail in to HT. :D
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HTC Can do a month without 15 bucks cant they?
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Don't think it's in good taste to offer to give away someone else's (HTC's) money. Even if it seems to you to be a small amount...
If you guys (zorsterer, ZB73, etc.) want to do it with your money, then it would be ok, of course.
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Originally posted by hitech
And exactly how is the "Community" giving them free time?
HiTech
Jeeze Louise , That's funny ! :p That's the funnest thing I have read on this BBS in a long time ........
Vote,
#1 , Here, skin this .........
#2 , ........( vote #2 thrown out, as it is not cool to post dirty words or funny dirty gestures anymore ) ......? anybody see the bird go up, from Texas ? ......
#3, " I can just hear it now>>>> Votes ? We don't Need No Stinkin' Votes " .......
#4 Furious's answer, wins hands down !
Ofcorse Al Gore will have to call for a recount, before giving the go ahead with the funding .............
:mad: :mad: :mad:
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Originally posted by hitech
And exactly how is the "Community" giving them free time?
HiTech
Come on Dale.. we all know you're a gazillionaire! You could spread a bazillion around and hardly feel it!
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Zorstorer - Great idea. I bet HT is giving it some thought. The new skins are wonderful - and I would love to see new maps.
Problem may be that with 60(?) new skins this month it would be expensive to reward them all at once.
I really enjoy the new skin - thank you to those that put in the time - WELL DONE!
MaddogWx...now DawgWx in game
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For a lot of people, it seems like just getting their art out into the world is payback enough. If HTC wasn't getting many new skin submissions, it might make sense to offer some sort of compensation, but it doesn't seem like the many talented artists contributing skins currently need that kind of incentive.
Sure, it would be neat if the creators of the most popular skins got some sort of recognition, but as it stands now it might make more sense to formally recognize the most popular skin artists at the con or something like that.
I don't know how tough it would be to implement, but there ought to be some way to track what skins are being used and rank-ordering them by popularity. Recognition might be reward enough. Sure, everyone likes free stuff but I haven't heard of anyone putting time into making skins in the hope that they'll score a comped account. Landing a job with HTC as their next apprentice artist... well, I've heard that rumor, but that's a bit different than a comped account.
A bounty system for planes that don't seem to be generating skin submissions might make sense... Nobody skins a particular plane, so HTC offers a free month to the first 2 accepted skins. That might make good business sense, but offering comped accounts to everyone making P-51 skins (for example) could run HTC out of money fast :)
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Who this is aimed at....
Skinners and sound folks who want nothing more than to get their work submitted and accepted into AH2.(period, end of thought)
I am not saying pay folks to submit, just to let those with the "top" skin or sound pack be recognized. Kinda like being the 1,000,000th customer in "insert name of establishment here" and getting $150 off your next purchase. Oh well...
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Originally posted by zorstorer
Ok I'll spell it out...
Much like JB73's idea.
The community (read players) votes on a skin or 2 and a sound pack maybe even a map. HT could then "GIVE" those players who won a month free or something like that. No one here has ever recieved a award from a group before? It's the little things like this that really add to a sense of community. No I am not asking for a 1$ donation from anyone or an increase to the price. Yes I think that the community getting together to single out a few exeptional skinners and sound guys would be a good (read constuctive) way for the community to get together.
But hey thats just me :aok
(Open season) :D
Here is another thought....think of it as a collective "Thank you"... something people feel is not needed these days which is sad indeed.
Originally posted by zorstorer
What really astounds me is the resistance to an idea that can only help the player community. It's not like HT will have to raise his monthly rate from 14.95 a month to 14.96 a month to cover the 29.90 it would cost him. I suppose amidst all the cries of foul play and general whining a decient constructive idea gets lost in the noise. :rolleyes:
BTW I am now taping the 2990 pennies together to mail in to HT. :D
I have to agree with this post, to an extent.
Basically the negative post arise from folks wanting to agree with anything HT says, or what they think he's saying, just to hang tight.
This IS a good idea, to an extent, revised. There's nothing negative in competition and\or a prize in it. This is simply good PR.
1) No one would be paying for it to cover the idea, there just wouldn't be a charge. There is a difference in the wording.
2) Someone could obtain sponsors, like CH for flight pedals or joysticks as a prize. We did this in AW many times. And companies DO sponsor stuff like this all the time.
3) Someone else had a good idea, because HTC only accepts checks, cash, or credit cards to get an account. In AW, people who didn't have a credit card, to hook up NOW, could go through a system like PayPal via E-Check, only it was something different in AW, I can't remember what it was called. But it worked out great. They just got charged an extra 3-4 dollars to use that e-check pay system. As it is, if you don't have these items, you have to wait about a week for your check to get to Texas, this is an inconvience, and a deterant to those without. Hell one time I paid $13 to ship $28 payment to HTC via federal express, just to avoid waiting a week. That was stupid on my part.
There are some good promo ideas that are not just stupid ideas. Not everyone is a spoiled rotten brat, and those that are not appreciate things like this much more then others, who basically are.
Basically I hear, "I have what I need,... screw you".
2 cents ;-)
Anim
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Hmmmmm...... wonder if the folks at Ratbag Games has me a check in the mail for the 300+ DTRSC skins I did. :D
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zorstorer: It wasn't the basic idea I took acception to. Pyro and I have discussed these type of things before we even released the 2.0 .
But it is sorta rude to ask us to give somthing away, and then say it was the "Community" that did the giving.
HiTech
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Some of the skins submitted atleast imho arent worth 15 bucks :p
Who decides who gets what?
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Zorstorer, etc.,
The idea of rewarding people who contribute to the "community" is praiseworthy. I was just disagreeing with the proposed method. Perhaps my phraseology was too negative; sorry about that.
Still, considering the amount of time it takes to do something like a skin/map, I doubt if the small amounts of money you suggest are likely to have any useful effect on the contributors. (Consider it in terms of dollars per hour).
I think that what motivates people to do this kind of thing is more the desire to contribute, and get positive feedback from the community about it. This can perhaps be achieved by posting appreciative comments on the boards, and other similar non-monetary means.
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Originally posted by TDeacon
Zorstorer, etc.,
The idea of rewarding people who contribute to the "community" is praiseworthy. I was just disagreeing with the proposed method. Perhaps my phraseology was too negative; sorry about that.
Still, considering the amount of time it takes to do something like a skin/map, I doubt if the small amounts of money you suggest are likely to have any useful effect on the contributors. (Consider it in terms of dollars per hour).
I think that what motivates people to do this kind of thing is more the desire to contribute, and get positive feedback from the community about it. This can perhaps be achieved by posting appreciative comments on the boards, and other similar non-monetary means.
I agree ,.
Anybody using Mitsu sound pack (for example) like to try to put a price on it ? ......
If these talented people that produce these skins and sound packs and the map makers were motovated by money , belive me they would have no problem selling the addons .
IMHO, the very best thing I we can do for these talented people is tell them "how*****in'" their product is and how pleasing the game has become for me with the addition of the hard work and skills they have to produce a truly amazing sight or sound .
If someone in the community feels compelled to start a compition for cash or awards based on vote or poll of the community , then I also think it should be run by the community and that the awards or cash or whatever , should be generated by the community , and winners be presented and receive the awards or prizes by the community, not HTC, the parent company game server and developer.
I just don't think it's cool to bend HTC over a barrell on a deal like that .......
OK enough serious stuff, I now return to my typical mode of BS on this AH Community messege board, and rebait my hook ......
"anybody need another beer yet ?"
CHECKERS
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What Nuttz said.
Ask a skinner. I have many many hours into creating skins. I don't want to be compensated. This isn't a job. It's a passion.
I do them because I love doing them.
I want to see my skins flown. I want them to be enjoyed. If it's adds to the game, makes it more fun that's wonderful.
"Nice skin poop !!" is all the payment I will ever need. A comment of appreciation is worth far more to me than being compensated. A complement means I connnected. No amount of compensation would mean more than those few words.
A competition ?? No.
Everyone doing skins is doing it for the passion of it. Each and every person submitting a skin put a labor of love into it.
Your going to grade them now ??? Then we could create a small mens club to review submitted skins. Get out their magnifiing glasses and send letters back to the skinner explaining that there were 13 rivits on the front of the vertical sabilizer on the real aircraft had 10. The color isn't "quite" right on the band behind the insignia. Please revise the skin and resubmit.
Been there, done that.
I'll pass. In fact I'll just find something else to do with my spare time.
If you like the skin, tell the skinner so. That's all the compensation needed. If you like it, fly it. Enjoy it for what it is.
HT gave us the opportunity to do some great things. Let us have the fun of it.
It isn't a competition, it's a group effort. I might be going out on a limb but I think that same thought would apply to the terrain and sound guys out there.
They do it because they want to.
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Originally posted by AWCHKRS
I agree ,.
Anybody using Mitsu sound pack (for example) like to try to put a price on it ? ......
If these talented people that produce these skins and sound packs and the map makers were motovated by money , belive me they would have no problem selling the addons .
IMHO, the very best thing I we can do for these talented people is tell them "how*****in'" their product is and how pleasing the game has become for me with the addition of the hard work and skills they have to produce a truly amazing sight or sound .
If someone in the community feels compelled to start a compition for cash or awards based on vote or poll of the community , then I also think it should be run by the community and that the awards or cash or whatever , should be generated by the community , and winners be presented and receive the awards or prizes by the community, not HTC, the parent company game server and developer.
I just don't think it's cool to bend HTC over a barrell on a deal like that .......
OK enough serious stuff, I now return to my typical mode of BS on this AH Community messege board, and rebait my hook ......
"anybody need another beer yet ?"
CHECKERS
I dunno, I don't think awards should be given to people who just make things. But I do back the idea of competition, flight ladders etc... with a sponsor deliveriing the prize. The only time in AW I didn't pay my own way was when I was game staff\Tech. And I made a LOT of things for AW. Hell EA.com requested to use my website for their version of AW, and they never even offered me anything at all. So when you make things it's best to understand you take it on by yourself and do it as a community contribution, not with the idea to get prizes or pay for it. Making things for pay has nothing to do with community contributions, it focuses on you and thats selfish.
If you start offering people money or free time you'll have 200 peope turning out bogus, if not harmful, products to get that free time and that's really not a good idea.
If you are Staff or win a piloting competition that's different.
Players CAN talk to manufacturers/distributers and some will provide/sponsor the event for advirtising purposes. As long as it's 100% legit.
They will probably contact HTC to have them award the prize to make sure it's done properly with their products. If someone were to not recieve the prize then that looks bad to the sponsor, and can generate bad PR, in which case they won't do it again.
A lot of time in AW the prize was a CH stick and pedal setup. But those wee for piloting ladders etc..
2 more cents.
Anim
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I'm looking forward to custom skins being able to be seen with the film viewer. Revisions of the film viewer view system and in-plane sounds being recorded.
Than you'll have the film guys diving in with the available skins and doing some great stuff.
Think of a commercial on the Discovery channel with multiple skins using a gun camera ( no cockpit ) type view system.
And let the movie guys like Col Stream at it.
It would be amazing what could be done.
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Originally posted by nopoop
I'm looking forward to custom skins being able to be seen with the film viewer. Revisions of the film viewer view system and in-plane sounds being recorded.
Than you'll have the film guys diving in with the available skins and doing some great stuff.
Think of a commercial on the Discovery channel with multiple skins using a gun camera ( no cockpit ) type view system.
And let the movie guys like Col Stream at it.
It would be amazing what could be done.
Are you saying the players who make movies should do a 15-30 second commerical for possible use on Disc Ch, for prize>??
If I understand you correctly...
That IS an AWESOME Idea. I have thought of that myself everytime I see the commercial.
HOWEVER, the player MUST sign a disclaimer, and\or waiver, to never privately pursue or legaly pursue any type of royalties for their work being shown on TV. They would have to do it as a one time prize, or acknowledgment, if any. The winner would definately *have* to sign a waiver or they could take HTC to the cleaners and possibly ruin the future of AH. This is very important. It has to be a signature in black and white. Showing peoples faces, voices or graphics on TV is a very touchy situation, but can be done, if legaly done right. The work would have to become ownership of HTC. All rights would have to belong to HTC.
You will also have to get any required permissions from the artist of any music that may be used for the background. This can also get expensive in law suits, especialy with people like Metalica. This can be done away with by just creating a tiny self made music loop\effect, or just use game sounds or narrations. Sometimes short text clips have a bigger impact.
Remember, these 3-4 minute movies would have to be skillfully condenced in to 15-30 seconds.
Maybe I misunderstood you?
These AH movie makers have proven to be VERY talented in capturing the feeling of the game. But the real part of this type of competition would be who could creativly show all aspects of the game in 15-30 seconds, without being too busy.
Perfect high resolution would be a must, better then the current.
4 cents
Anim
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Correct me if I'm wrong Animal. Doesn't propriotory rights expire on music after a period of time ?? Fill me in.
Sign offs for the maker of the movie I wouldn't think would be a problem.
A contest for a movie would be a good thing. I'm taking bets on the winner tho..
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Originally posted by nopoop
Correct me if I'm wrong Animal. Doesn't propriotory rights expire on music after a period of time ?? Fill me in.
Sign offs for the maker of the movie I wouldn't think would be a problem.
A contest for a movie would be a good thing. I'm taking bets on the winner tho..
For the most part they do not expire as you may think. It all depends on the owner. Someone owns the rights, if they choose to ignore it then so be it. But you NEVER want to ignore asking permission, the bite could really suck.
Aretha Franklin still owns the rights to her songs and NEVER lets them be used for ANYTHING without being paid. Period.
M. Jackson bought the rights to the Beattles tunes.
Nothing really dies in this industry. But it all depends on the contract they sign with what ever record company etc...
A LOT of artist still make a living off their songs being used in commercials.
AF, cracked a deal where she would not allow anyone to sing her songs except her for commcials, a car commercial got her $6 million. How old are her tunes>?
See what I mean, just because they don't get radio air play, doesn't mean the artist isn't making money.
John Folgerty got screwed, screwed himself, he almost never made a penny on his, because he doesn't own the rights, he gave that to the record company basically by mistake.
Robin Zandler from Cheap trick lives in a trailor park last I heard, because the guitar player somehow ended up with all the rights. He's rich, Zandler (the singer) is not.
But it all boils down to the dollar.
It all depends on who owns the rights and what they want to do about them.
Hope I made sense
~A
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Originally posted by FT_Animal
I dunno, I don't think awards should be given to people who just make things. But I do back the idea of competition, flight ladders etc... with a sponsor deliveriing the prize. The only time in AW I didn't pay my own way was when I was game staff\Tech. And I made a LOT of things for AW. Hell EA.com requested to use my website for their version of AW, and they never even offered me anything at all. So when you make things it's best to understand you take it on by yourself and do it as a community contribution, not with the idea to get prizes or pay for it. Making things for pay has nothing to do with community contributions, it focuses on you and thats selfish.
If you start offering people money or free time you'll have 200 peope turning out bogus, if not harmful, products to get that free time and that's really not a good idea.
If you are Staff or win a piloting competition that's different.
Players CAN talk to manufacturers/distributers and some will provide/sponsor the event for advirtising purposes. As long as it's 100% legit.
They will probably contact HTC to have them award the prize to make sure it's done properly with their products. If someone were to not recieve the prize then that looks bad to the sponsor, and can generate bad PR, in which case they won't do it again.
A lot of time in AW the prize was a CH stick and pedal setup. But those wee for piloting ladders etc..
2 more cents.
Anim
Agreed ! ......
also, Animal.....
I remember alot of the cool work you did for AW .....
I also still miss the gameplay and total fun of AW Big Time still !
EA ......well, I really do not have any thing good to say about them and their parent company AOL .....except KMA or something along those lines and quotes from all of us who were AW players when they killed it......
Regards .
CHECKERS aka CUCA`S SQUAD CHKRS .........
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The CH prizes were for KOTH winners. AW had nothing to do with it. Ever.
KOTH is a 327th Steel Talons squad party, traditionally on the first Friday of the month. KOTH was opened to AW members because it was just too much fun for one squad.
STICK arranged for the prizes. EA tried to hijack KOTH, ticked off STICK, and he trademarked KOTH personally.
As far as I know STICK has not yet been consulted regarding a KOTH in AH, nor has he yet taken exception to "KOTH" in AH.
Too bad it's not on Friday. Saturday just isn't KOTH day. Too bad STICK hasn't been honored for KOTH.
We run KOTH's occasionally as a squad nite party still. If you want an invite to the party, maybe KOTH can live again.
HONK!
Gooss
327th Steel Talons FS
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Originally posted by Wotan
Some of the skins submitted atleast imho arent worth 15 bucks :p
Who decides who gets what?
lol
historical reaserch about aircraft - 15-18h
painting- about 20-40 h
tests and touch ups -4-5 h
and thats only for external skin not counting cockpit, all build form scraches not looking at oryinlal htc panellines...........
let say somone will like pay 10$ per hour
as noopop said its passion
a hell if somone wil pay me by the 10$ by the hour i can do it:) butnot for free month of AH ;)
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Originally posted by Gooss
The CH prizes were for KOTH winners. AW had nothing to do with it. Ever.
KOTH is a 327th Steel Talons squad party, traditionally on the first Friday of the month. KOTH was opened to AW members because it was just too much fun for one squad.
STICK arranged for the prizes. EA tried to hijack KOTH, ticked off STICK, and he trademarked KOTH personally.
As far as I know STICK has not yet been consulted regarding a KOTH in AH, nor has he yet taken exception to "KOTH" in AH.
Too bad it's not on Friday. Saturday just isn't KOTH day. Too bad STICK hasn't been honored for KOTH.
We run KOTH's occasionally as a squad nite party still. If you want an invite to the party, maybe KOTH can live again.
HONK!
Gooss
327th Steel Talons FS
lol ya.. Having CH sponser our AW KOTH nights was great! Except they were not 'our' KOTH nights anymore.. haha I had left AW for AH about a month before STICK got CH onboard. I remembered thinking, "damn, I could have won my sticks rather than buy them.." lol But, alas, I was already playing AH and was pretty mad about AW.. hehe I would have won them, I would have won them all!!
STICK! Thanks for some great times bro!
I dunno what is needed, but something is needed for such players that contribute so much to the AH community in maps and skins.. Some of you guys doing the work so far might not want prizes/recognition for work done, but that says nothing about if you deserve it or not.. Some sort of prize would make more folk contribute to the community and in turn supply the community with a better product. IMveryHO, HTC should jump at this and recognize it as a way of support for it's community that already supports HTC w/ money, time, and effort...
If HTC donates a month subscription once a month, it seems a small price to pay on money saved them by the community in time/effort spent making maps/skins..
Let the community vote. Want a closer, more sown community? Let it vote for best map/best skin.. What does HTC have to gain from this? Other than reasons already stated, the next thread about the loathing of a particular skin/map, HT only needs to reply with, "It was YOUR vote!"...
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It is fun giving away others people's money, hunh?
Frenchy, if I am not mistaken, wanted to increase the usage and appreciation of the P-47s in AH. Did he start a thread suggesting that HT should donate money to encourage this increase? No, he donated a prize himself to be given away.
You want to reward the skinners, you donate the prize.
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Originally posted by Gooss
The CH prizes were for KOTH winners. AW had nothing to do with it. Ever.
KOTH is a 327th Steel Talons squad party, traditionally on the first Friday of the month. KOTH was opened to AW members because it was just too much fun for one squad.
STICK arranged for the prizes. EA tried to hijack KOTH, ticked off STICK, and he trademarked KOTH personally.
As far as I know STICK has not yet been consulted regarding a KOTH in AH, nor has he yet taken exception to "KOTH" in AH.
Too bad it's not on Friday. Saturday just isn't KOTH day. Too bad STICK hasn't been honored for KOTH.
We run KOTH's occasionally as a squad nite party still. If you want an invite to the party, maybe KOTH can live again.
HONK!
Gooss
327th Steel Talons FS
I don't think KOTH was the only prize thing, I could swear early AW had some thing going, but not 100% sure. I do know I saw those prizes posted more then once over 7-8 years I was there. But I'm not arguing, just mabye not remembering 100%.
It also proves my point where as HTC doesn't have to promote or give the prizes. This is where *community* does things on their own. Organize things like this. It doesn't HAVE to be a HTC thing, however, it really IS good PR to do it once a year or something to show appeciation to the community.
Just thoughts
Anim
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I've corresponded quite a few times with Stick about AH's KOTH.
At the time I spoke to him, long before the event (or Wild Wednesday; it's precedessor) had started in AH; the subject had his enthusiastic support; and I've no reason to think that's changed.
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As I said before, don't make skinning a contest. There's guys trying something they've never done before and having a blast doing it. Other guys giving tips helping out. There learning as they go, and each one is a little better. A passion filled little club of skinners.
A contest is just the first step down a road I don't want to go as far as skinning goes.
Please leave well enough alone.
If you see one you like, tell the guy that painted it. That's all that's required.
If a skinner does a nice skin, everytime a pilot picks it out of the hanger he's just givin props to the painter.
2 centavo's
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Please, dont make skinning a competition. I enjoy skinning, even though my skins are nowhere near submission caliber. I enjoy skinning for the sake of skinning, not for prizes. The greatest thanks I could ever get is a "Good skin. I really enjoy it."
Theres no need to give away things to skinners, terrain builders, or sound makers. I speak for several when I say that a "Good skin" or "I love that terrain/sound!" is the greatest thanks someone could get.
Also, if skinning is made into a competition, advanced skinners would be less willing to share their secrets with the less skilled skinners such as myself. Each bit of help makes my skins look better. I dont want to lose that priviledge.
Just as nopoop said, "HT gave us the opportunity to do some great things. Let us have the fun of it."
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I would Donate a prize. I'll have to ask Hitech to see I don't cross his conflict of interest.
But I would be willing to Offer a very nice prize to the winning skin that the community voted on.
The only problem is The "best" skin may not be picked, the person who has the most friends in AHII would win. From seeing some of these submissions it would be a really hard call, to call one person the winner. The winner really is the community.
Still, I wouldn't mind maybe twice a year donating a very unique object emblazed with the winning skin:)
HiTech, the ball is in your court.
NUTTZ
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Is it inflatable? or Wooly? Does it make bleeting sounds when squeezed?
What is it Nuttz???!!!!
Heck I'd settle for some hi-peed hosting for the 2.5 soundpack in progress...lol
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No contests, please!
I am an IPMS member, that's plastic models.
I don't build for contests, there is no way I can be competitive.
Contests here will result in the same.
A few great skinners will continue, everyone else will become frustrated and quit.
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Originally posted by glenmorangie
No contests, please!
I am an IPMS member, that's plastic models.
I don't build for contests, there is no way I can be competitive.
Contests here will result in the same.
A few great skinners will continue, everyone else will become frustrated and quit.
I think a contest for prizes should be for a competition that can only be won by the individual, no typing of voting. I personally don't think a votng type contest would work, there's always too much controversy.
I think it should be more definate, like meeting cartains goals, such as KOTH, etc..
I personally think you'd have problems with a contest where a person wins by votes.
But nopoop makes a great offer. ;-)
2 cents
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