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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: RTStuka on August 29, 2004, 07:35:32 PM
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LOL I was just watching CNN and they showed Clinton giving a speech where he questions Bushs Morals and religious convictions. Now I am a Big fan of Clinton, I think he was a great president but he really shouldnt be making any comments on Morals :rofl :rofl
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Clinton?? Morals???
wtf?
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With Clinton it's a bit laughable. You should see Ted Kennedy do lecture on morals... it's downright disgusting. I do remember seeing him do it once during a witch-hunt in 2000 or 2001 (can't remember which). It was pretty damn funny because the rest of the people at the table were starring at him with their jaws dropped.
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Involuntary manslaughter doesnt count.
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They don't call what he did involuntary mansalughter. They call it drunken driviing, failure to render aid, leaving the scene of an accident, conspiracy and, just to top it off, reckless driving.
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Originally posted by Lizking
They don't call what he did involuntary mansalughter. They call it drunken driviing, failure to render aid, leaving the scene of an accident, conspiracy and, just to top it off, reckless driving.
Well with a record like that . No wonder he keeps getting stoppped at airport security:lol
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If you are accurate you call what he did murder.
lazs
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Involuntary manslaughter doesnt count.
And.....
Adultery
Alcoholism
Lying
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Kennedy's real crime is being a fat, disgusting pig who has never had a real job in his life yet he has more money than God and claims to speak for the little guy.
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Clinton is not the only US president in history whos been screwing with other women than their wife.
Hes just the first one who got caught by the immoral media, which made it a bigger deal than it really was. (and got screwed by the woman who he had been screwing with)
Let alone the US presidents which have lied, even worse than Clinton with the Lewinsky case.... :rolleyes:
Bush would be a prime example of a lying US president.
Clintons screwing hardly had anything to do with the politics, but Bush's lying has caused war(s) and human right violations. (plus what else)
So figure out the morals again...
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Originally posted by Fishu
Bush's lying has caused war(s) and human right violations.
What did Bush lie about?
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Originally posted by Bodhi
What did Bush lie about?
SAADUM HDA N00K5!!!!1
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Originally posted by Fishu
Let alone the US presidents which have lied,
can you name 1 president who hasnt?
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Originally posted by Mini D
With Clinton it's a bit laughable. You should see Ted Kennedy do lecture on morals... it's downright disgusting. I do remember seeing him do it once during a witch-hunt in 2000 or 2001 (can't remember which). It was pretty damn funny because the rest of the people at the table were starring at him with their jaws dropped.
Ted Kennedy reminds me of a FAT DRUNK BASTARD..lol, sorry no pun intended
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Originally posted by Fishu
Clinton is not the only US president in history whos been screwing with other women than their wife.
Hes just the first one who got caught by the immoral media, which made it a bigger deal than it really was. (and got screwed by the woman who he had been screwing with)
Let alone the US presidents which have lied, even worse than Clinton with the Lewinsky case.... :rolleyes:
Bush would be a prime example of a lying US president.
Clintons screwing hardly had anything to do with the politics, but Bush's lying has caused war(s) and human right violations. (plus what else)
So figure out the morals again...
SO who's human rights did Husain violate? How many lives were violated at 911?
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
SO who's human rights did Husain violate? How many lives were violated at 911?
How do you think you can defend their right, if you dont care about others right?
Makes it kind of purposeless to whine about their right if you don't respect others right, dont you think?
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Originally posted by Fishu
Clinton is not the only US president in history whos been screwing with other women than their wife.
Hes just the first one who got caught by the immoral media, which made it a bigger deal than it really was. (and got screwed by the woman who he had been screwing with)
Let alone the US presidents which have lied, even worse than Clinton with the Lewinsky case.... :rolleyes:
Bush would be a prime example of a lying US president.
Clintons screwing hardly had anything to do with the politics, but Bush's lying has caused war(s) and human right violations. (plus what else)
So figure out the morals again...
fishu would be a prime example of how repeating what you read on the internet does not equate to true knolwedge of the topics in question. heres a clue "bush lied!" makes you look like robotic democratic hack.
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are you blind? he said theres WMD in Iraq, Hussein is an immediate threat need to be dealt with... how exactly was it?
Not to forget hes claiming he had no idea of the organized torturing of prisoners, until they were caught on the photos and later on published on media.
Oh yeah not to forget Bush in his current campaign says he still believes Hussein had WMD, but somehow managed to rid it completely before the coalition rolled over (unless hes having little white lies and talking about the pre-gulf war I situation)
Enough obvious lies to me.
In that one hearing he didnt want to speak under oath, did not want it to be recorded and wanted to just talk straight to the guy doing the hearing.
or whatever it was about...
Real honest eh?
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Originally posted by ra
Kennedy's real crime is being a fat, disgusting pig who has never had a real job in his life yet he has more money than God and claims to speak for the little guy.
Change Kennedy to Bush, take out fat, and add drug and alcohol addition....
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anonymous is right fishu. That's as programmed and thoughtless of an answer as I've ever seen.
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Originally posted by Mini D
anonymous is right fishu. That's as programmed and thoughtless of an answer as I've ever seen.
So, how does it make it worse than the other replies?
If you say so, I don't see anything which would somehow make the previous replies "unprogrammed" and/or "thoughtful"
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which replies? the one about Clinton or the ones about ted kennedy?
And what makes it more programmed? Could be the fact that you were called on being programmed and you came back with simple rhetoric that is a prime example of the most obtuse biased view running rampant in politics today.
If you'd like to discuss ted kennedy, let me know. I think you'll be astonished to find just how little support he has from anyone. The man is a disgusting waste of oxygen and living proof as to why term limits should be required.
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whatever.. enough of the double stantards.
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Just a word of advice fishu:
When someone calls you robotic, it's best not to respond with rhetoric. There's no double standard about it.
Now... once again... do you want to discuss ted kennedy or the 1 clinton bash, or would you like to pretend you aren't an atomotan by bashing Bush with another programmed qwip?
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
SAADUM HDA N00K5!!!!1
Maybe these people are Liers as well.
My favorite is Hillary saying Saddam and Al-Quada are working together, that one always gets me.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destrution and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
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Originally posted by Fishu
are you blind? he said theres WMD in Iraq, Hussein is an immediate threat need to be dealt with... how exactly was it?
Not to forget hes claiming he had no idea of the organized torturing of prisoners, until they were caught on the photos and later on published on media.
Oh yeah not to forget Bush in his current campaign says he still believes Hussein had WMD, but somehow managed to rid it completely before the coalition rolled over (unless hes having little white lies and talking about the pre-gulf war I situation)
Enough obvious lies to me.
In that one hearing he didnt want to speak under oath, did not want it to be recorded and wanted to just talk straight to the guy doing the hearing.
or whatever it was about...
Real honest eh?
the world was convinced there were wmd program in iraq you idiot. what you claim is the detection of "obvious lies" is really proof that you dont have clue number one about how intelligence collection and analysis works. you are the epitome of what is lame about the internet. people applying watercooler logic to incredibly in depth subject. you seem to feel you can sum up a topic that would easily take up several thousand pages of reports and explanation for even a "baseline" analysis in a couple of sentences on a bbs. pardon me if i think you are the one who is an oversimplifying idiot as opposed to the people who are professionals on the topic. "bush lied about wmd!" is nothing but a political slogan that you swallowed whole on your knees. congratulations on being a part of the "in crowd" politically. :)
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Originally posted by fd ski
Change Kennedy to Bush, take out fat, and add drug and alcohol addition....
kennedy still drinks like a fish. hes non admitted alcoholic. bush swore off the stuff years ago but dont let reality get in the way of your political programming. you trying to compare bush jr with ted kennedy is proof you lack any possibility of rational unbiased thought politically.
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
Ted Kennedy reminds me of a FAT DRUNK BASTARD..
you left out MURDERING ...
FAT DRUNK MURDERING BASTARD
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JBA :rolleyes:
if you couldn't see the sarcaisism in that post then you i don't know.
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Geea fishu, buy a clue. I hope they sell them near you.
Do you think if someone says something they believe to be true, but later discovers they were mistaken then they are a liar?
I think Bush honestly believed, based on the now understood to be faulty intelligence, that Iraq had WMD. He believed it, and that is what he said. Is he a liar or just someone who made a mistake???
I hope you never said something incorrect, because obviously you are a lieing person who shall never be worthy of respect or crediblity in the future, as least as your reasoning seems to be.
I think most people, after seeing the documents and evidende discovered in Iraq believe that at one time, yes, Iraq did have WMD.
Armchair quarterbacks who babble with the perfect vision of retrospect are really just irrelevant.
dago
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
JBA :rolleyes:
if you couldn't see the sarcaisism in that post then you i don't know.
Sorry my bad.
But it never hurts to remind the mindless what was said prior to going to war and who said it.