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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Morpheus on August 30, 2004, 07:25:59 PM
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Only one... Squelch Option
Please Hitech make it posible to get rid of range vox.
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I second this idea! If I don't get a verbal "check 6" from someone, then that should be my option. Most of the time you wouldn't get it anyway 'cuz of all the needless chatter going on. that way you could just pay attention to your squad or wingman, etc., and not ahve to sort thru all the garbage.
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I agree....let us disable range as an option
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Though I've agreed since it came out, this parade has been rained on already.
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I dont think HT Really wants to do this. At least as a squelch.
Range is great for coms with people in the area, for people you would not normal get to talk to on vox. Its there as a team thing.
Sometimes you can get in a fight or something and you really wish you could tune folks out. I understand that as well.
How bout this for a proposal.
How about a Timed Squelch on Channel 2. What I mean is this. You type .squelch 2 and Channel 2 is squelched for 3 minutes. once three minute elapse, Channel 2 is unsquelch automaticly.
I would program a button on my HOTAS for those moments when I need a clear Vox channel. Of Course you could abuse this by constantly squelching, But Its not much different than turning off your speakers.
Used properly, this would give you a chance to clear Range Vox, Yet a few moments later you would have all the benifts of Range again.
No Idea how hard it would be to impliment, but I figured Ideas are always good to toss around.
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Squelch people not the channel.
Start getting on country channel & get them to move to private if there is a lot of chatter.
This is a community issue not a programing one.
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I just want my squad vox to override the range vox rather then the other way around as it is now
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It seems to me that squeclhing range channel would be a very bad idea from a purely game play stand point. There is some chatter yes, but also a lot of critical information on local that you would not want to miss out on, "Enemy Goon IB" or "High 262" or "hold your drop the town is not flat" for example. I think it would be a better solution to make it easier to squelch particualr players, maybe just click on their name in the local range list and it pops up a squelch option for that player, that way you can squelch the chatter boxes and not the more serious information. I don't know about you guys but I like to be well informed when I fly into enemy territory.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I just want my squad vox to override the range vox rather then the other way around as it is now
i'll second that.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Squelch people not the channel.
This is a community issue not a programing one.
I disagree. The same could be said about the Channel 1 issue, but it was handled differently.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Squelch people not the channel.
Start getting on country channel & get them to move to private if there is a lot of chatter.
This is a community issue not a programing one.
Why should I have to tell them to move to a voc channel? That is not my responsibility. In no way would this take away from your "community" thing. It would simply make it easier to fight in a furball without having to listen to constant chitchat on range vox.
I could never understang why we have the option to tune out every other type of communication within the game except the one that gives the most problems. Heck, you can even squelch the system messages. But yet we still have the biggest anoyance up and running with no way of turning it completely off without having to squelch everyone around you.
Hey Ghost... Channel 1 was a "community" issue just as much as it was a programing one if you really want to go that rout. Where did it go? What was the solution?
There is absolutly no reason why we cant have the option to get rid of range vox if we feel it is necessary. Keep in mind it would be an OPTION. So... If YOU didnt feel it was "necessary" to detune range vox guess what... You dont have to.
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Only one... Squelch Option
Please Hitech make it posible to get rid of range vox.
as i try to tell you theres a m3 sneaking troops past you
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Only one... Squelch Option
Please Hitech make it posible to get rid of range vox.
If we could do that i'd let my kids play when i'm not home. As it is---just another reason to plug in the headphones.
A seperate slider in the vox box for range would do it.
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Ghosth its not guys that being jerks that bothers me...its trying to talk to squaddies and having 15 people walk over you.
When I first started playing it irritated me so much I would fly without sound and use teamspeak only with friends. Now that Im in a squad I cant do that, but RANGE is still irritating. Please let us squelch it. Most guys have squad channels(vox) they use, and new guys ALWAYS use text when asking questions, so I dont see the point of HAVING to have it unsquelchable.
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Originally posted by twitchy
It seems to me that squeclhing range channel would be a very bad idea from a purely game play stand point. There is some chatter yes, but also a lot of critical information on local that you would not want to miss out on, "Enemy Goon IB" or "High 262" or "hold your drop the town is not flat" for example. I think it would be a better solution to make it easier to squelch particualr players, maybe just click on their name in the local range list and it pops up a squelch option for that player, that way you can squelch the chatter boxes and not the more serious information. I don't know about you guys but I like to be well informed when I fly into enemy territory.
It's all a matter of choice twitcy. Those that want to squelch the range channel would have to suffer the consequences of such. If they die due to a lack of information, then it's all on them.
I don't run into this problem very often, but when I do, I surely would like the option to tune the radio off.
Ghosth ... been there done that and 99% of the time, they ignore you, so I am forced to fly from the area so as not to listen to someone babble on about how their day went or "remember when".
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Only one... Squelch Option
Please Hitech make it posible to get rid of range vox.
Nice! A fresh new idea!! always nice too see!
IKON
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Maybe I don't care what the people artound me are saying..or maybe I missed something from a squaddie that was far more important than someone who thinks I care about the info they are putting out. There really does need to be a way to squelch range radio comms.
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Comparing channel 1 and range channel is baaaaaaaaaaad, m'ckay? Each channel serves different purposes.
Channel 1 was used just to B.S. -- that's all.
Range channel, however, is a necessary team-oriented channel.
If you're not comfortable with a person's chatter (I don't blame you), 1) take the initiative and squelch the ba$tard, and 2) report the SOB. The rest of us may be depending on your ability to relay information & improve the overall gameplay.
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Ok, you guys made your point.
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regardless...of the teamwork bit...sometimes you just want to fly with your squad...so here you are trying to coordinate with your squad and bam you miss something because someone was talking on range about some stuff you didn't care about. IT SHOULD BE AN OPTION not something you are forced to listen to in the name of teamwork. You can't squelch an entire furball
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Originally posted by Coolridr
regardless...of the teamwork bit...sometimes you just want to fly with your squad...so here you are trying to coordinate with your squad and bam you miss something because someone was talking on range about some stuff you didn't care about. IT SHOULD BE AN OPTION not something you are forced to listen to in the name of teamwork. You can't squelch an entire furball
fine! :D
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Squelch people not the channel.
Start getting on country channel & get them to move to private if there is a lot of chatter.
This is a community issue not a programing one.
Big N, little o - wrong. Hate to be the one to tell you this but community is by its very nature a voluntary thing - you can't build it, it builds itself. Give a donkey a captive audience and I garauntee you all you'll hear is him braying and that ain't community building.
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Originally posted by Coolridr
Maybe I don't care what the people artound me are saying..
Re: Range Vox needs Options
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Only one... Squelch Option
Please Hitech make it posible to get rid of range vox.
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as i try to tell you theres a m3 sneaking troops past you;)
Originally posted by Coolridr
or maybe I missed something from a squaddie that was far more important than someone who thinks I care about the info they are putting out. There really does need to be a way to squelch range radio comms
use sqaud channel:)
although there is childish behavior, there still are alot of benefits to range.
what if i you needed help from a countrymate? would you want his range turned off?
i try to help out, and be a team player even if thier not my squadies ... have alot of buddies on the knights side, that are good people. they would watch my back and i do them the same courtesy.
then again thats me! your you, and the children are children!
lead by example first, ask him her to please not use talk like that. if that doesnt work then refer him or her to ht. what else can you do?
muteing all range vox will not only rob's the potty mouth of thier fun
it rob's you of the reliable player's who do more help than harm
;)
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
as i try to tell you theres a m3 sneaking troops past you
IDC about Troops :)
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Ok, you guys made your point.
Even changed mine a bit.
I slider to control range channel volume vs ingame sounds/squad channel would be a good thing.
But I still worry about where this community is going when people would rather turn them off. Than teach them, & show them the right way.
Ghost...
In reference to your last statement...
You can't teach an old dog new tricks bud.
The ones I hear on range vox who are carrying on like blithering fools, they are the ones who are griping about a stolen kill, a stolen SPAWN CAMPED kill!!! (GET REAL!!), they are the arm chair generals, they are the ones who just dont giveadam about who else may be sitting near you while you are flying at the time and feel they have the right to spout off obcenities left and right. These people I am talking about are not new. And very rarely are new. So dont, please dont try and tell me it is posible to tell some old "vet" who thinks he is incontrol of all of the air space within a 25 mile radius, that he needs to please be quiet and not clutter up range vox, or tune to a channel. Because you and I both know that is not going to happen.
I want to make this very clear. And I know that you cannot disagree with me. When I am in a fight, the last thing I want to hear is some (Pick your description) player yelling at another about the kill he thinks is his, or why everyone is not killing a little Napoleans town for him so he can let troops out. When in a fight, or a furball, there is absoluty no time to sit there and squelch the 4 or 5 or more people around you who feel that they need to clutter up range vox with every day coversation, with crap... And when you do sit there and try to squelch them you will probably be dead by the time you are done typing in your first .squelch game ID...
And lets be real hear bud. Range Vox is only a very small part of what makes up the "community" you are refering to. But at the same time it is an extreem anoyance to any and everyone who doesnt feel like listening to someone tell another person how there day was... How they feel about a stolen kill... How they feel about another player... Getting my point yet?
And this IS just a request for the OPTION of squelching range vox. OPTIOIN.... Option.... It would be another one of your voluntary things such as your beloved channel 200 which is far worse now than Ch1 EVER was.
One last thing I'd like to put my 2cents towards...
Range channel, however, is a necessary team-oriented channel.
No it is not. Not for everyone. I dont pay 15 bucks a month to "win" your wars. I pay to fight. I pay to have fun. The people I am winging with are in Direct contact with me at all times. Thats my fun. I will toss out check 6's to others... Other than that, I will not communicate with others. I dont feel there is a need to. I have my SA so they should have theirs. The Check 6's I give are gifts. Simple as that.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I just want my squad vox to override the range vox rather then the other way around as it is now
That is a good idea. Give preferance to the tuned vox channel.
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im acronym illiterate:confused:
what's IDK morph?:(
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or a chat box squelch. the chat box with green typing moving 24/7 bugs me. im like o0o0oo colors!! AH WALL!!!!:p :eek:
:rofl
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I just want my squad vox to override the range vox rather then the other way around as it is now
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Originally posted by Karnak
That is a good idea. Give preferance to the tuned vox channel.
Not only do I think its a good idea.
But I dont understand why it wasnt set up that way to begin with
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Originally posted by Sp4de
or a chat box squelch. the chat box with green typing moving 24/7 bugs me. im like o0o0oo colors!! AH WALL!!!!:p :eek:
:rofl
I'd like to be able to close the text also. I find it keep getting either in the way of my guages, or my view Depending on where I put it
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What I really dont get is why we have the option of squelching the "SYSTEM: ***** Landed ** Kills in a *** of ****" Mesage and cant detune range vox.
Ghost... I hate to pick on you and dont think I am but I knew someone was going to bring up the community thing and it just happend to be you. But... You want to talk about losing sight of the "community" thing your talking about. What kind of commeradery can you have if people can detune... or squelch (I think it is channel 6). SYSTEM mesages? But we have it... AND people do disable it...
But since HT did that on his own accord does that make it "OK" in your eyes?
Im gonig to put things as simple as I can here.
I absoluty do not care what is going on around me with other people. I watch other players 6's when I can. I help out when I can. I do not need someone yelling at me telling me I have a 51 ining on me. I dont want to hear VOX what so ever. I think it is my right to have that option without having to completly turn off all my sound. Which I have been doing for the past month or two. I know I am not the only one who feels this way at that. If it were up to me... I'd make it an option to have vox eliminated completely from the game and only be turned on for thoes who want it. But its not up to me so this is the next best thing in my eyes.
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Originally posted by Sp4de
or a chat box squelch. the chat box with green typing moving 24/7 bugs me. im like o0o0oo colors!! AH WALL!!!!:p :eek:
:rofl
You can get rid of most of that stuff Spade by squelching 2. So if you get rid of Ch 200 and 2, you can get rid of most of that gibberish. Also you can change the darkness of the box so it is basicly clear. But unfortunetly what you are left with is the range channel text. That wonderful pink text that is acompanied by voice com... Which you cannot get rid of.
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How do you squelch all those "XXX landed XX kills in a XXX" messages?
Is there a channel number you squelch? What is "Channel 2" that was referenced here? Is that the same one?
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Channel 2 is Green country Text... And yest it can be squelched.
SYSTEM can be also squelched.. "Landed Kills blah blah blah"
Squelch 6 I beleive.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I just want my squad vox to override the range vox rather then the other way around as it is now
Its been asked for b4....PULEASE HT
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Well as far as community goes, its not as close as AW was. Something in this game is preventing that, and I cant put my finger on it yet. It may have something to do with how the base targets are setup, or the lack of multicrewing, or maybe folks are just meaner now, and just plain unfriendly.
To be honest, if I want to talk to people I will, and if I dont want to hear them Id rather be able to turn it off. For me RANGE has done more to turn me off against the game/community than it has made me enjoy the game/community.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Well as far as community goes, its not as close as AW was. Something in this game is preventing that, and I cant put my finger on it yet. It may have something to do with how the base targets are setup, or the lack of multicrewing, or maybe folks are just meaner now, and just plain unfriendly.
To be honest, if I want to talk to people I will, and if I dont want to hear them Id rather be able to turn it off. For me RANGE has done more to turn me off against the game/community than it has made me enjoy the game/community.
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Ghosth, at what point did I lose you in my posts?
Was it before I stated... "Ghosts I'm not picking on you..." or after?
IMHO Ch1 had more potential for community building than range vox EVER had. And if I remember correctly you were a very strong advocate against it... Altho I could be wrong. It had been a while and there have other more important things to think about in the mean time.
Agian Ghosth... Understand one thing. I was not using you as a point I was using what you said to make my point. And it was hardly directed at you all but for one very small senence at the end of an entirely different post. There is nothing personal there bud.
I apoligize for the confusion. Altho I dont have to. I am. I think you just got insulted??? maybe a little too easy there or jumped the gun anyways. No problem its not the end of my world nor yours.
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When I post on this forum I have no intentions of winning Ghosth. Besides what is there to win? What I was simply doing was making a point to others by using what you said. AND Before I did that I made sure I made myself clear in saying you were not the target of my post. Hence "Ghosth I hate to pick on you so dont think I am..."
To pick what I said apart... I knew someone was going to bring the community thing up. I was actually glad it was someone like you who could provide valid argument. So again, I used what you said to make my point towards "other" people who felt/thought the same way.
The fact that you thought that entire post is/was/ever could have been directed soley at you shows me there is still some confusion looming. Maybe you just didnt like your words being used to make a point. Either way it doesnt look like I will get this one across here either so enough is enough. At some point you thought this was a competition. It was at that point where I lost you.
Before this thing gets too far hijacked... Filth said it best and I beleive we should have the option to disable range vox. Not just for the guys who are sick of hearing people talk. But for the people/players who have people (more often that not those people are their children) sitting by them when they are playing and come across a group of guys who just cant stop cussing. With one small command itthey could all be gone, and problem solved.
Edit: I do feel similar to you Ghost in concern to the community. One of the best ways to get to know people was by ch1. Everyone could use it and sooner or later those that didnt like it had the right to turn it off. And they did.
AH2 is getting so big now that the community is more like a small civilization where we all have common intrest and love what we are doing but it has become nearly imposible to know or help everyone. It was for some of your very concerns that I contemplated leaving AH and saying the heck with it. And it was for some of the same "values" that you and I have in common is what kept me in AH for as long as it has.
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But Morph, 2 posts after I came around to your point of view is just that, picking on me.
You've Hijacked this enough bro.
You obviously do not get the fact that NOT A SINGLE POST was directed toward you after you "came around" like you say. RATHER, what I said was directed at the concerns you had which others surely would have too. Do you think that just because you made up your mind and "came around" that everyone else with similar concerns would too?
Grow up.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
I dont want to hear VOX what so ever. I think it is my right to have that option without having to completly turn off all my sound. Which I have been doing for the past month or two. I know I am not the only one who feels this way at that. If it were up to me... I'd make it an option to have vox eliminated completely from the game and only be turned on for thoes who want it. But its not up to me so this is the next best thing in my eyes.
uhhhhh can't you already do this?
you can uncheck all the vox (setup/voice) related boxes while leaving game sounds (setup/game sounds) on.
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I have VOX completely off, and all other game sounds on.
In Preferences/Voice, Mic Volume and Play Volume sliders off; Effect Volume slider on.
Although the above solution turns off the annoying voice sounds, it probably still uses precious MIPS. Anyone know if the game allows the voice functionality to be turned off at a lower level?