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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: koala on October 31, 1999, 01:51:00 AM
At least 5 times tonite players intentionally disconnected in order to avoid being killed by me.  No, they were not coincidences, as they ONLY occured when the planes had taken critical damage and were about to crash.  I received no credit for those kills.  HTC needs to remedy this soon.  It's becoming an epidemic.  Simply award the kill, and let's be done with it.

ko
Title: This has got to stop
Post by: -floo- on October 31, 1999, 02:55:00 AM
Hear hear!

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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: Downtown on October 31, 1999, 07:39:00 AM
Apparenlty its more a case of "Its my ball, if I can't win, I am going home."

Though the kill would be nice, I prefer they go home, and don't come back to this neighborhood.

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[This message has been edited by Downtown (edited 10-31-1999).]
Title: This has got to stop
Post by: indian on October 31, 1999, 08:32:00 AM
koala remeber this is only beta the score system barely works anyway. You know you got the kill so be happy.

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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: koala on October 31, 1999, 10:32:00 AM
Indian,

What's your point?  Of course I know it's a beta.  Are you saying I shouldn't post things that are real problems?  I'm now playing the beta much less because of this.  Beta or not, it would be nice to see it fixed quickly.

ko
Title: This has got to stop
Post by: indian on October 31, 1999, 10:39:00 AM
No im saying there is slightly more important things for HTC to worry about, like Downtown said lets run the guys off the game. Yuo know you out smarted him and so do the other guys around you. When this go pay it will not happen because these kind of guys dont want to pay for game.

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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: koala on October 31, 1999, 07:18:00 PM
"there is slightly more important things for HTC to worry about"

Have to disagree.  One of the main reasons for the beta is to build a community that is available when the game goes live.  A perception of massive cheating is one of the quickest ways to hurt the building of said community.  Anything to discourage that, especially a simple code change, should be high priority.

ko
Title: This has got to stop
Post by: indian on October 31, 1999, 07:39:00 PM
Koala in that case I agree but its not somehting to quit playing over. Idont realy care to much about score yet becuase it dont work very well anyway.

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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: Vermillion on October 31, 1999, 08:17:00 PM
Not so much a worry about "score" Indian, hell look at mine and you will see mine stinks due the fact that I actually test, but its a feeling of being robbed of a hard earned victory.

Worked hard against a Pony about 10 mins ago, who had significant E, and had pinged me for damage, but I turned the tables on him got in firing position on the deck on his six... and *poof*, obvious use of the alt f4 dweeb move.

I spend alot of time actually testing the game, but sometimes I play for fun to take the edge off, and to make the testing all worth while.

And this totally ruins it for me.



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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: Herc on October 31, 1999, 08:45:00 PM
I think it makes a difference.  If the honest  and constructive players get frustrated and leave, then you are left with the others.  The game may get a bad reputation.  I think most people would be fine if the host recorded a disco as a crash.  Do they have manuever kills yet?  I don't mind it as much, but it's also frustrating to have a guy crash on you when you fight him down on the deck, although it's neither's fault in a low fight.  I've crashed a few times in a fight and I wouldn't mind the adversary getting a kill.

Herc
Title: This has got to stop
Post by: indian on October 31, 1999, 08:56:00 PM
Im not saying to not want this fixed. Im saying hang in these guys will quit once we pay fr game. By that time HT will have a decent scoreing system inplace. I never looked but Im curios to see if anyone checkedscore before logging and kept count of all kills and alt f4 dweebs and then checked score again.

Anyone ever do this.

Lets not use this as a means to quit its only a game and you got the best of the guy. Could be just a non recorded score.

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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: Swoosh on October 31, 1999, 09:26:00 PM
Gotta dislike cheaters.  They gloat when they win and can't take losing.  But the thing is no matter how frustraing it gets, I know and they know that down deep in their heart they feel inferior no matter what the outcome.  This tends to balance things out for me.  I agree with Indian: it will be fixed, but if iss not the next thing to get attention I wont mind.  For now I'd rather see new planes and stuff.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: This has got to stop
Post by: leonid on November 01, 1999, 08:47:00 AM
People, I'm sure this will be dealt with in the same manner it was dealt with in WB under Pyro and Hitech.  Basically, they'll flag any injured object that discos as a kill to the prime damager.  Just a matter of getting the basics, like FM, in trim first.  Still a lot to do yet.


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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: Minotaur on November 01, 1999, 10:47:00 AM
Koala;

Consider that floating from angels 20 in a chute takes awhile.  Quicker to ALT-F4, and resume the Beta Testing.  There might actualy be viable reasons.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

A kill is a kill...

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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: koala on November 01, 1999, 11:39:00 AM
Minotaur,

Huh?  What are you talking about?

Alt-f4 all you want, but make sure the kill is awared properly.

ko
Title: This has got to stop
Post by: Stiglr on November 01, 1999, 12:46:00 PM
I think it should get fixed fairly quick. Even if one doesn't "play for score" it's nice to be able to look at your RAW STATS objectively without having to remember to fudge in "the 4 times I'm *sure* the guy cheated me out of a kill with a dweeb-out". Likewise for the alt-cheaters who get off without a well-earned smudge on their puny little records.

I won't arrogate myself to say it's got to be #1 on the list...the designers should do that. But it should be brought up as a problem, no doubt.

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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: Mr.ED on November 02, 1999, 07:30:00 AM
Dudes, I'm sure that after AH leaves Beta, these Alt-disco dweebs will too.
Beta is in test mode, and so am I.
I've to busy fighting my pony, to fight anyone else, but everyday I try to engage someone, to see if the day before's stick settings have helped. Baptizm under fire. Shot me down all you want, until AH goes out of beta.
This is one big test flight. By then I should have my pony together, & if I'm still getting shot down, shame on me.
BTW if you Bishops & rooks see a pony screaming by and lawndarting, thats me in beta mode.
How fragle is someone's eggo that they cant be part of a kill stat.

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Title: This has got to stop
Post by: Delta-X on November 02, 1999, 08:51:00 AM
Just an observation, but keep in mind that if you are interested in your score as a way to gauge your abilities against other pilots, and assuming that the number of alt-f4 dweebs is equally distributed amongst the three countries, everyone's score is equally effected.

-- Delta-X