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Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Suave on September 07, 2004, 12:33:30 AM
Seems that the massacre in Russia is good material for the cartoon writers at al-jazeera.net.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: rpm on September 07, 2004, 12:37:10 AM
We gotta get the space shuttle going again so they can HO the Al-Jaz satellite.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 07, 2004, 12:41:00 AM
Send the artist an email...

Shujaat@aljazeera.net
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Post by: Engine on September 07, 2004, 12:42:16 AM
link?
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Gunslinger on September 07, 2004, 12:50:39 AM
I cant take this.  Savage's website has some pics and so does aljazera, but I cant watch this.

I have two kids and this stuff just makes me want to break down.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: NUKE on September 07, 2004, 12:56:01 AM
We must remember any Arab/ Muslim  links to terrorism are  pure coincidence.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: NUKE on September 07, 2004, 01:05:12 AM
I just went to the aljazeera web site and ended up crying viewing the pics of the dead,  wounded and scared kids taken from that school.

I didn't bother looking for the cartoon. I can't believe people can be so cruel.

I pray that every last sob responsible goes straight to hell.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Gunslinger on September 07, 2004, 01:09:02 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
I just went to the aljazeera web site and ended up crying viewing the pics of the dead,  wounded and scared kids taken from that school.
 


I'm glad I'm not the only one
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Post by: Octavius on September 07, 2004, 01:20:22 AM
I cant connect to that website.  .net?
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 07, 2004, 01:23:39 AM
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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Post by: Gunslinger on September 07, 2004, 01:24:29 AM
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Octavius on September 07, 2004, 01:32:56 AM
That stupid cartoon with the medals/death toll?  thats it?
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Gunslinger on September 07, 2004, 01:35:59 AM
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Originally posted by Octavius
That stupid cartoon with the medals/death toll?  thats it?


you want to see worse look at the "in pictures" section.

Do you think putin is responsible for all those deaths?  Arabs do, and so do some of his countrymen now.  To me its simple, the poeple responsible are the people that caused them......terrorists.  That's mostly what the cartoon is trying to say, not to mention its making light of a recent event were over a hundred children were slaughtered.  I dont find it amusing.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: NUKE on September 07, 2004, 01:37:41 AM
That cartoon is an outrage. They put the blame on Putin for the deaths rather than the terrorists. They have no brains, that's why hardly any Arab POS is ever mentioned doing positive work for mankind....all they seem to know is ignorance and hate.


I say blow the watermelon out of all-jizz.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: NUKE on September 07, 2004, 01:47:39 AM
The Russians should nuke  Chechnya, then lets see what that Arab POS of a cartoonist thinks of.

Come to think of it, Russia should nuke all the Arab states and then have a Russian cartoonist make a cartoon of Arab leaders receiving medals honoring all the dead. Wouldn't that be a fair comparison of what this Alljizz POS is doing?
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Post by: Saintaw on September 07, 2004, 01:52:01 AM
I, II, II, IV, V, VI, VII...
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Post by: ramzey on September 07, 2004, 01:55:03 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
The Russians should nuke  Chechnya, then lets see what that Arab POS of a cartoonist thinks of.

Come to think of it, Russia should nuke all the Arab states and then have a Russian cartoonist make a cartoon of Arab leaders receiving medals honoring all the dead. Wouldn't that be a fair comparison of what this Alljizz POS is doing?


why should they nuke country whare only rocks left?
better country who still support terrorists and claim to be allies for us, even is launching commercials in radio and tv to convince us about frendship
It would be interesting to see russian paratroopers land on desert too
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Thrawn on September 07, 2004, 02:00:53 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
The Russians should nuke  Chechnya, then lets see what that Arab POS of a cartoonist thinks of.

Come to think of it, Russia should nuke all the Arab states and then have a Russian cartoonist make a cartoon of Arab leaders receiving medals honoring all the dead. Wouldn't that be a fair comparison of what this Alljizz POS is doing?



Oh I see, so it's only a tragedy when Russian children die.  But it's okay to nuke Chechen and Arab children to spite some retarded cartoonist...oh wait is this just more tough-guy talk?
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Post by: Gunslinger on September 07, 2004, 02:04:32 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Oh I see, so it's only a tragedy when Russian children die.  But it's okay to nuke Chechen and Arab children to spite some retarded cartoonist...oh wait is this just more tough-guy talk?



DING DING DING DING DING DING DING


this is the logic train yet once again passing thrawn by.
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Post by: Thrawn on September 07, 2004, 02:17:28 AM
Don't be a fool, logic has nothing to do with it.  I was merely mocking NUKE's empty rhetoric.
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Post by: Gunslinger on September 07, 2004, 02:22:54 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Don't be a fool, logic has nothing to do with it.  I was merely mocking NUKE's empty rhetoric.



empty rhetoric.....dead children
empty rhetoric......dead children


Hmmm doesnt sound so empty to me but heh nuke can fight his own battles.
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Post by: Thrawn on September 07, 2004, 02:35:48 AM
I suppose but in order for NUKE's statement not to be empty rhetoric he would have had to be serious about Russia nuking Chechnya and the Arab countries because of one moronic cartoonist.  I prefer to think that he wasn't serious.
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Post by: Lazerus on September 07, 2004, 03:02:42 AM
I think the difference is that destroying the people of the nation that this attack came from will by default destroy the attackers, where the attack on the school did nothing but kill innocents. I agree with another poster about causing the continuation of agression, but in the case that the WORLD is in, it is a case of survival for the masses. If you do not see the continuing pattern then there is nothing that can be said to you.

I truly hope that it doesn't take the type of killing that it seems will stop the bullchit that is happening. Time will tell.
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Post by: Dowding on September 07, 2004, 09:20:18 AM
150 children and then another few hundred thousand innocents in retaliation. That makes sense. Heaven is going to have a bumper a year with you heroes in charge!
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Post by: Yeager on September 07, 2004, 09:34:18 AM
Personal attack
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Post by: JBA on September 07, 2004, 09:38:20 AM
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CF9D5C94-D41B-48AE-AAB4-27757A836650.htm

"More than 100,000 people are expected in central Moscow at an "anti-terror" rally amid ""

Maybe they should have joind the US in it's war on terror?

Bush was right to call then EVIL. They are EVIL and need to be exterminated.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Suave on September 07, 2004, 09:48:14 AM
Yeah, notice their use of quotation marks.

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But mounting criticism against Putin and the government has been countered by displays of nationalist fervour and a surge of rage against "terrorists" who carried out the attacks in Russia.
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Post by: AKIron on September 07, 2004, 09:48:51 AM
Russia probably won't be nuking anyone though you can bet there will be retaliation.

How do you prevent people like these ruthless murderers from targeting children when they believe it to be justified? I think it can be done. Might require murdering the families of all terrorists like the Romans did. I suspect that would probably work though I doubt many civilized nations would have the stomach for it. May come down to it though.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Dowding on September 07, 2004, 09:51:51 AM
Personal attack
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Post by: lasersailor184 on September 07, 2004, 09:55:36 AM
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"More than 100,000 people are expected in central Moscow at an "anti-terror" rally amid ""


Jesus christ, are russians stupid?  Anyone else see what I see?
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: NUKE on September 07, 2004, 09:59:13 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
150 children and then another few hundred thousand innocents in retaliation. That makes sense. Heaven is going to have a bumper a year with you heroes in charge!


My  point was  that the cartoonist's logic blaming Putin for the terrorists , as though the terrorist actions were justified somehow, was beyond nutz.

If the situation were that the Russians retaliated against inocent Arabs by nuking them, then by the same logic a Russian cartoonist and news network could justifiy making a cartoon blaming the Arab leaders for the nukes. Same logic. Blame the victim.

That's all I was trying to point out. I wasn't literally saying we the Russian should nuke the Arabs.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Dowding on September 07, 2004, 10:04:59 AM
Maybe you didn't Nuke, but a few others seemed to be getting a hard-on for the idea. It was them that my comments were aimed at.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Suave on September 07, 2004, 10:09:21 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
My  point was  that the cartoonist's logic blaming Putin for the terrorists , as though the terrorist actions were justified somehow, was beyond nutz.


Is he blaming him, or is he mocking him?
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Eagler on September 07, 2004, 10:17:05 AM
al-jaz incites additional voilence

as i have stated before -  it should be removed from the air waves - permanently

we shut down the one nutbags "newspaper" ,  no need to stop there..
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Thrawn on September 07, 2004, 11:09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
we shut down the one nutbags "newspaper" ,  no need to stop there..


Sure there is.  Al Jazeera was founded by Emir of and and is based out of Qatar.  Qatar, our ally in the war on terror.
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Post by: ASTAC on September 07, 2004, 11:12:56 AM
Dang gov't computer...can't acces al jezera..hell I can't even access Pravda from here...Great article in there about the belsan incident and Russia's feelings towards the terrorist. I agree with the writed completely:aok
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Post by: xrtoronto on September 07, 2004, 11:34:06 AM
Flame bait
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Post by: AKIron on September 07, 2004, 11:50:25 AM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
Flame bait


You are really in need of some Fox News to balance out too much Al-Jazeera.
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Post by: Bluedog on September 07, 2004, 07:50:11 PM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
Flame bait


You are quite correct, no one DID join the 'coalition of idiots'........several nations did however join the US to make up the 'coalition of the willing' and aid them in their  (and everybody elses) fight against terrorists and the nations/governments who harbour them.


All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
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Post by: Krusher on September 07, 2004, 08:13:51 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
150 children and then another few hundred thousand innocents in retaliation. That makes sense. Heaven is going to have a bumper a year with you heroes in charge!


How many children died during the "blitz".  How many died in Dresden?

If a nuke or a bio goes off in London what then,  kiss and make up?  I bet the answer won't be very PC.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Gunslinger on September 07, 2004, 09:10:27 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
My  point was  that the cartoonist's logic blaming Putin for the terrorists , as though the terrorist actions were justified somehow, was beyond nutz.

If the situation were that the Russians retaliated against inocent Arabs by nuking them, then by the same logic a Russian cartoonist and news network could justifiy making a cartoon blaming the Arab leaders for the nukes. Same logic. Blame the victim.

That's all I was trying to point out. I wasn't literally saying we the Russian should nuke the Arabs.


Spot on.  If al jazeera was the voice of all reason it would be putins fault for the deaths and not the terrorists that kept them hostage.
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Post by: Flyboy on September 07, 2004, 09:33:40 PM
thats it i have made up my mind, i am going to learn how to hack... then ill show thoe SOBs what i think of them.

friggin oil potatos, is it wasnt for that stincky fluid they where driving camels and donkeys today. i wish they will dry out. then wewill see how much the rest of the world cares about those bloody wrag heads dress wearing camel fuggin illiterate daughter raping fanaticals.

who the hell they think they are. :mad:
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Post by: Edbert on September 07, 2004, 09:35:58 PM
Dowding, come down off your highly-evolved holier-than-thou crumpet-munching pedestal for a bit. The person I presume your UID refers to used what 'could' be described as mass murder of women and children in their beds, they too were innocent in that their only crime was being in the wrong country duing a war. But killing a few million civilians in a short period of time did a great deal to bring the agressive country to its knees.

After the Greeks and the Romans, the Spanish defeated the Moors, I guess those kind of defeats only last a few hundred years or so.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Dowding on September 08, 2004, 03:41:09 AM
Edbert MOL - That's a pretty emphatic display of ignorance. You'll find that Dowding was the Commander in Chief of Fighter Command during the Battle of Britain. You're thinking of Harris.

Krusher - we're talking about the school massacre, not a tactical nuke outside Buckingham Palace. That would change the situation.

As for Dresden etc. I'd say there is no valid comparison between today's situation and WW2. The enemy is non-localised and we aren't going toe to toe with a force that was on the brink of invading, occupying and destroying our country.
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Post by: Staga on September 08, 2004, 03:53:02 AM
As long as Putin won't allow investigations done by organisation which isn't bound to his government or army I wouldn'd draw too much conclusions what happened there; Russian government has always been a bit uncaring if there's civil victims or not.
Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the massacre was intentionally launched.
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Post by: simshell on September 08, 2004, 04:36:07 AM
you know a B-2 would make nice work of al-jazeera outlet
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Post by: Gixer on September 08, 2004, 05:56:27 AM
We should unleash that division of Chinese Hackers to bring that site to it's knees and the US Air Force to take care of that TV Station. Unless of course the Russians beat us to it.

Be interesting to see what happens now that Russia is pis*ed.



...-Gixer
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Post by: flyingaround on September 08, 2004, 06:57:11 AM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
Flame bait


The Coalition of the Willing

Europe

Western Europe:
United Kingdom
Spain
Portugal
Denmark
Netherlands
Iceland
Italy

Baltic States:
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania

Central Europe:
Poland
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Hungary

Balkans:
Albania
Macedonia
Romania
Bulgaria
Turkey
Croatia
Slovenia

Eastern Europe
Ukraine

Asia
Japan
South Korea
Singapore
Philippines
Afghanistan
Azerbaijan
Uzbekistan
Georgia
 Marshall Islands
Micronesia
Solomon Islands
Mongolia
Palau
Tonga

The Americas
North America:
United States of America

South and Central America:
El Salvador
Colombia
Nicaragua
Costa Rica
Dominican Republic
Honduras


Australia

Middle East:
Kuwait

Africa
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Uganda
Rwanda
Angola



Here is Europe's break down.  NOTICE the blues out number the red's by more that 2 to 1.  ALSO Norway ended up joining if I recall, so that's one more blue (shown as green)
(http://www.geocities.com/pwhce/images/euir0303.jpg)
March-April 2003
Key:
Blue: Coalition of the Willing
Red: Openly opposed invasion of Iraq
Grey: Neutral or no position declared
Green: Ambiguous position.


So...... what was that you were saying again?  Try to keep your comments in "this" world, as opposed to whatever one you seem to be in.
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Gixer on September 08, 2004, 12:59:26 PM
WOW there's some really big countries in that list. Do some even have a police force?

Coalition of the Willing is a political spin. It's only really US Great Britain and Australia that actually put any effort in. And more of a Coalition of the Unwilling don't you think?



....-Gixer
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: Krusher on September 08, 2004, 05:18:14 PM
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Originally posted by Gixer
WOW there's some really big countries in that list. Do some even have a police force?

Coalition of the Willing is a political spin. It's only really US Great Britain and Australia that actually put any effort in. And more of a Coalition of the Unwilling don't you think?



....-Gixer


Speaking of big countries, don't the nervous sheep out number the people in your country :)
Title: al jazeera - Beslan
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 08, 2004, 05:23:11 PM
(http://www.witzgall.org/images/bike_sheep.jpg)
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Post by: Bluedog on September 08, 2004, 05:46:03 PM
This is really putting my foot in it considering my nationality, but I doubt you would find dirt that red in NZ, certainly not that red and flat with salt-bush all over it.