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Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Squire on September 07, 2004, 07:35:03 PM
P-40E, A-20, Spitfire V and Hurricane II each with a Russian skin. The Finn-Russ map had them in AHI but of course, now the skins are seperate from the terrains.

We could really use these, so I hope there are a few out there that could help us out. Thx.
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: thebest1 on September 07, 2004, 07:38:32 PM
ooooooo russian P40 im up for a challange but the only problum is finding an accurate picture... I LOVE SKINNING P40s
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: United on September 07, 2004, 07:41:17 PM
Ill do your spit 5.  Any squadron you need? or any russian spit5?
I found a picture, will this one be okay?
(http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ModelArticles/Grinberg/spit5/orig_spit5vvs.jpg)

Geez, sound like a pesky 5 year old.  Heres my question restated:  Do you have anything specific in mind, or should I go and make any Russian spit?
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Guppy35 on September 07, 2004, 08:14:24 PM
Russian P40 profile and 2 Russian Hurricane profiles

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1094605983_russianp40.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1094606015_russianhurris.jpg)
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Citabria on September 07, 2004, 09:09:23 PM
ive just got my pc back and i will start working on a russian p40E
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: jetb123 on September 07, 2004, 10:21:42 PM
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Originally posted by Citabria
ive just got my pc back and i will start working on a russian p40E
 You just got you PC back from its PS blowing like 1 month ago?
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Citabria on September 08, 2004, 12:46:27 AM
here is the P40E in VVS colors

(http://www.r0013636.hostultra.com/uploads/data/media/1/p40vvs1.jpg)
(http://www.r0013636.hostultra.com/uploads/data/media/1/p40VVS.jpg)
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Guppy35 on September 08, 2004, 01:23:57 AM
Wow!  That was quick.  Looks great :)

Red Stars on the wings too?

Dan/Slack
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Citabria on September 08, 2004, 01:31:19 AM
very rare on vvs planes to have stars on top of wings.

both wings have stars underside always
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Kweassa on September 08, 2004, 06:30:33 AM
Frankly, have been waiting a long time for CMs to speak up on what they need!! :)

 For instance, all of the 15 spots including the default skin, of the P-51D is already full. I love those skins, and greatly respect  all the effort put into it by their creators.

 However, when you look at those, you can't really say that its in anyway pre-planned or laid out well.  If there were any discussions to which P-51 skins would be needed, according the Events/Scenario/CT purposes, then it would have made a much more 'balanced' set.

 Fortunately, other planes still have lots of space open. I hope there's some way we can categorize the skins that should be included. For instance, concerning Bf109s, the most important skin for 1940 would be those of the Bf109Es of the JG2 and JG26. For the Bf109F-4s, JG27 of the Africa Corps. and JG54 in the Eastern Front would be really needed.
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: glenmorangie on September 08, 2004, 07:02:43 AM
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Originally posted by United
Ill do your spit 5.  Any squadron you need? or any russian spit5?
I found a picture, will this one be okay?
(http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ModelArticles/Grinberg/spit5/orig_spit5vvs.jpg)

 


That camo does not look like British.  Has it been repainted in black and green, or dark green and green?

That would be interesting.  What is that wierd stripe-like pattern forward of the cockpit?  The early black-edged star is interesting, too...
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Cobra412 on September 08, 2004, 07:51:40 AM
Great P-40 Citabria. One question though so I can insure mine is accurate too did P-40s use a gray primer on the complete aircraft?  My black and white photos make it look white.  I'd like to be sure the undercoat is correct.  Thanks in advance.
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Greebo on September 08, 2004, 09:33:19 AM
I've just started work on the A-20G/Boston but it'll be a month or two until its finished. I'll move the Soviet skins to the top of the pile though. Would you prefer a Boston or an A-20G first?
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: Squire on September 08, 2004, 11:52:16 AM
Great looking P-40E, ya we need that one.

Would prefer the A-20G 1st Greebo, thx.

As for the Spit V, no it doesnt have to be any specific one no, any VVS skin that looks good Im sure will be appreciated.

We just need to get some Lend Lease a/c skinned Russian, just thought I would give you lads some feedback on what we need. I will let other CMs jump in as time goes Im sure there will be other requests.

US aircraft in British or Russian lend lease skins is an obvious need, since the default skins are all US.

***Also, LW a/c and Russian a/c in winter camoflage***, there is another area we could use. Plenty to do if you consider skins then for Russian lend lease types (summer and winter), and LW winter camoflage.

Winter IL-2 skin is another we can use.

Thanks.
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: United on September 08, 2004, 01:20:59 PM
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Originally posted by glenmorangie
That camo does not look like British.  Has it been repainted in black and green, or dark green and green?

That would be interesting.  What is that wierd stripe-like pattern forward of the cockpit?  The early black-edged star is interesting, too...

It is British, but its painted different from other spitfires.  From what I know of this one, it was manufactured in Britain with all of the Russian markings and exceptions, and flown directly to the front lines where it was put into service immediately.

I cannot find any information about the stripe forward of the cockpit.  This is also the only original photo of the aircraft I can find, but I have several Plastic Model pictures of it.

Im thinking I may do this one next
(http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ModelGallery/Istvan/spitfire_1.jpg)
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: glenmorangie on September 08, 2004, 06:20:52 PM
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Originally posted by United
It is British, but its painted different from other spitfires.  From what I know of this one, it was manufactured in Britain with all of the Russian markings and exceptions, and flown directly to the front lines where it was put into service immediately.

I cannot find any information about the stripe forward of the cockpit.  This is also the only original photo of the aircraft I can find, but I have several Plastic Model pictures of it.
 


The contrast is high and looks suspiciously like Southern Front Camo.  Do you have any further information on what colors the Brits might have used?  The original Flying Tiger P-40s were painted in the US, using British Colors, for instance.  is it possible the British painted these Spits using Russian specificied colors?
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: United on September 08, 2004, 06:32:21 PM
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Originally posted by glenmorangie
The contrast is high and looks suspiciously like Southern Front Camo.  Do you have any further information on what colors the Brits might have used?  The original Flying Tiger P-40s were painted in the US, using British Colors, for instance.  is it possible the British painted these Spits using Russian specificied colors?

There is not much information reguarding this plane, but from what I can find it was painted using a Medium Sea Grey and Dark Green Camo style, very similar to this spitfire:
(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Rev1/201-300/Rev289_VPD48006_Victory-Models/49.jpg)

There is little information available, but I based most of this skin on the model shown here: http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ModelArticles/Grinberg/spit5/
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: glenmorangie on September 08, 2004, 09:10:40 PM
Okay, That contrast level I'll buy!

That should be a great looking skin.  Did the Russians follow their custom and leave the National Markings off the upper surfaces on Lend-Lease aircraft?
Title: CM Request: What we need for Skins in SEA events
Post by: United on September 08, 2004, 09:12:52 PM
From those pictures I saw, they did not.  Now, if anyone can come to me with good information and correct me, please do, but as for now Im leaving them on.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129705

(http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ModelArticles/Grinberg/spit5/orig_spit5vvs.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1094690249_weatheredvvs.jpg)