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Title: Drone idear
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 09, 2004, 04:15:22 PM
What if a pilot was able to buy a few extra drones to add to his/her formation.  FOr maybe 100 perks per drone a player could add 1 to 3 more bombers. Its just an idea that I thought of, not asking for it to be implemented right now. Just seeing if anyone else likes the idea.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Howitzer on September 09, 2004, 04:44:13 PM
How could you maintain the perks?  Would you have to land each drone?  Or better yet trust the drunks flying them to hit the runway after you so you get the land?
Title: Drone idear
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 09, 2004, 04:46:07 PM
Yes you would have to trust the drone "pilots". ANd if you lose a drone it would be a loss of perks. It probally couldnt be 100 perks each, it would have ot be n the range of 15 to 25.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: superpug1 on September 09, 2004, 05:06:19 PM
Gahh i have enough trouble killing 3
Title: Drone idear
Post by: bustr on September 09, 2004, 05:10:06 PM
How about letting us man all of the gun positions. Deathstars.:)
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Howitzer on September 09, 2004, 10:56:54 PM
Hrm, I like it, it would give me something to do with all my useless bomber perks.  :aok
Title: Drone idear
Post by: FiLtH on September 10, 2004, 08:10:31 AM
Yo Poollly..get dat bike done!
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Morpheus on September 10, 2004, 08:16:46 AM
Good idea. Would be fun.

But I doubt we'll ever see it happen.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: JB42 on September 10, 2004, 08:37:06 AM
Great, now I get to watch 7 Lancasters dive-bomb my CV. Won't that be a sight to see. :rolleyes:
Title: Drone idear
Post by: TBolt A-10 on September 10, 2004, 11:04:10 AM
I like the idea.  The cost per plane definitely will have to be under 25 bucks, though.


Considering MOST of our targets are laid out length-wise, I would hope the formation would appear as two chevrons, one behind the other.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Kev367th on September 10, 2004, 11:43:18 AM
Good idea apart from -
1) Would need dive bombing fixed.
2) Can just imagine the warps given how bad it is now.
3) The AI element of buffs landing need tweaked.
4) Buff FM needs fixing, i.e. when in 'real life' did you ever see buffs looping?
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Overlag on September 10, 2004, 02:18:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Good idea apart from -
1) Would need dive bombing fixed.
2) Can just imagine the warps given how bad it is now.
3) The AI element of buffs landing need tweaked.
4) Buff FM needs fixing, i.e. when in 'real life' did you ever see buffs looping?


lol 4 did happen a few times........mostly by mistake though.

extra buffs in your formation would be great, and at least give us something to spend the buff points on :D
Title: Drone idear
Post by: JB73 on September 10, 2004, 02:36:38 PM
999000 would forever be flying 20 plane sorties

EEEEEEEEEEKK!!
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Karnak on September 10, 2004, 02:48:40 PM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Good idea apart from -
1) Would need dive bombing fixed.
2) Can just imagine the warps given how bad it is now.
3) The AI element of buffs landing need tweaked.
4) Buff FM needs fixing, i.e. when in 'real life' did you ever see buffs looping?

Lancasters and Ki-67s were capable of looping.  With bombs it would probably have unfortunate side effects as the bombs came free. That isn't a FM issue though, it is a bomb attachment modeling issue.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: DipStick on September 10, 2004, 02:50:54 PM
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Originally posted by Overlag
lol 4 did happen a few times........mostly by mistake though.

extra buffs in your formation would be great, and at least give us something to spend the buff points on :D

I always thought you should have to pay for the other 2 planes in the formation. Say 10 perks for a formation, free for a single buff.

Also think the heavy bombers (anything that can have a formation) should only be able to drop bombs with Auto-Level engaged. That'd stop the dive bombing.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Karnak on September 10, 2004, 02:53:06 PM
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Originally posted by DipStick
I always thought you should have to pay for the other 2 planes in the formation. Say 10 perks for a formation, free for a single buff.

After they redid the bombing model single bombers ceased to do enough damage to be worth it and now with their drastically reduced survivability paying perks for the drones would see a rapid extinction of level bombers.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: DipStick on September 10, 2004, 02:59:15 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
After they redid the bombing model single bombers ceased to do enough damage to be worth it and now with their drastically reduced survivability paying perks for the drones would see a rapid extinction of level bombers.

I disagree. When I used to bomb some, it was easy to get hits with the new bombing model (site). Just takes a little practice. I don't see where their survivability has been drastically reduced either. I think the heavy buffs would be used from higher alts (with formations) not wanting to lose perks. After all it's not like endless streams of 17s and Lancs were used at 4-5k all the time.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: RacrX on September 10, 2004, 03:00:24 PM
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Originally posted by JB73
999000 would forever be flying 20 plane sorties

EEEEEEEEEEKK!!


Ooooo that would be scary....
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Karnak on September 10, 2004, 03:05:04 PM
Dipstick,

The gunnery hit detection change has hurt the ability of bombers to defend themselves more than just about anything else.  They used to easily tear wings off of fighters and seem to have relied on the thicker wing hit detection area quite a bit.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: JB73 on September 10, 2004, 03:06:09 PM
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Originally posted by DipStick
Also think the heavy bombers (anything that can have a formation) should only be able to drop bombs with Auto-Level engaged. That'd stop the dive bombing.
the only side note to that would be the JU88 could dive bomb easily and did so very well.

some say the b26 could drop bombs in a very light attack angle too.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: BlueJ1 on September 10, 2004, 04:22:39 PM
JB73, there would be a limit to the total number of drones you take. Maybe 6 at most, this would eliminate vast clouds of bombers all controlled by a single player.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Overlag on September 10, 2004, 07:21:47 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
JB73, there would be a limit to the total number of drones you take. Maybe 6 at most, this would eliminate vast clouds of bombers all controlled by a single player.


whats the size of a standard B17 box formation?

its 9 or 12 isnt it? stacked as  diff alts.

oh man that would look cool :D
Title: Drone idear
Post by: Kev367th on September 11, 2004, 05:25:49 AM
JB73, I think the point was the Lanc/B17/B26 DIVE bombing you see.
Title: Drone idear
Post by: TBolt A-10 on September 11, 2004, 11:49:25 AM
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Originally posted by JB73
some say the b26 could drop bombs in a very light attack angle too.


A while back, I heard someone say that Lancasters made similar attacks.  But, I agree with the others, these dive-bombing heavies aren't realistic in their 5,000-ft per minute dives.  If HTC changes it, though, there will be a lot of gamers that whine.  What to do?  What to do?