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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CMC Airboss on September 10, 2004, 05:56:27 PM
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Beech Starship, that is....
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/509023/L/
Looks like there are a few hanging around in desert storage after Raytheon decided to retire them.
MiG
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Would make an excellent place to put the puter and joystick for some serious sim flying :cool:
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I heard Rayethon is buying back and scrapping them so they do not have to do a spare parts business, issue airworthiness directives, etc.
Apparently the bean counters decided that a buy back and scrap strategy was less costly than incurring liability costs to an aging fleet of white elephants.
IMHO they should have figured out how to continue to produce them instead.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I heard Rayethon is buying back and scrapping them so they do not have to do a spare parts business, issue airworthiness directives, etc.
Apparently the bean counters decided that a buy back and scrap strategy was less costly than incurring liability costs to an aging fleet of white elephants.
IMHO they should have figured out how to continue to produce them instead.
sounds alot like raytheon thinking. I've dealt with them MANY MANY times.
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that is BS, Raytheon is not buying them back, nor will they be held liable for any parts support, or AD's... thats the FAA's domain to begin with, and lastly, the Starship is beyond the requiremnet for spare parts support. Too top it off, most of those airframes have seen their cycle life...
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Id heard something similar to that too...Raytheon was trying to ditch em. I used to see them on the Trade a Planes here and there...lately, nada. What's the real ditty?
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This is a computer graphics pikture.... no?
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Originally posted by Bodhi
that is BS...
Bulk of Starship fleet headed to incinerator
by Nigel Moll
The Beech Starship fleet is being destroyed at the behest of manufacturer Raytheon, which owns 40 of the 50 production airplanes built between 1988 and 1995. In recent weeks the Starships have been flown to Pinal Air Park in Marana, Ariz., near Tucson, and corralled at Evergreen Air Center’s heavy maintenance facility, which at press time had destroyed six airplanes by sawing them up and burning the carbon-fiber sections in an incinerator (EPA-approved, Raytheon noted). The goal is to complete the destruction of the airplanes under Raytheon control by year-end.
As befitting such an unusual initiative, Raytheon did not broadcast its intentions, and only after inquiries by AIN did the company decide, 13 days later, to acknowledge the existence of the program and issue any comment.
The leading question is “why?” According to a company spokesman, “This is a business decision based on simple economics: the costs of supporting the fleet are prohibitive, in terms of creating and locating spare parts. There are many parts on the Starship that are unique to that aircraft. We have a backlog of parts, and we will part out those aircraft that are being decommissioned to add to that backlog.” He also asserted that, with such a small number of airplanes, retrofitting the fleet for new requirements such as RVSM is a prohibitively expensive proposition.
Here's the whole article...
http://www.ainonline.com/issues/07_03/07_03_bulkstarshipp1.html
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OK, Holden, nice cut and paste, but that article does not say that Raytheon is buying up all the airplanes, nor does it say they are liable for product support. Nor does it mention the cycle life of the early cf structures...
So... what did I say that was wrong.
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Grasping at straws aint ya Bodhi?
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Originally posted by SunTracker
Grasping at straws aint ya Bodhi?
not in the least,
but you're doing a good job of being an stunninghunk though... ;)