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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: beet1e on September 11, 2004, 02:47:50 AM
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Daniel - I beat you to it this year!
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goof.
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I don't get it.
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Nor do I... what exactly are we "rejoicing?"
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Stop showing your ignorance ,you Ameruukans.
It's the flag of Catalonia and 11 september is the national day in Catalonia.
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ok then
Happy national day Catalonia :)
Btw, do we have any Catalonians on this board?
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Where is Catalonia... anywhere near Dogovia?
Somebody told me it is on the Iberian peninsula, but I can't find that either. In the neighborhood of Gaul....and Aquataine. Near the Pyranees, but all I have is this map of the Grand Tetons.
(http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/crashnet/20040820/11/1408202770.jpg)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Btw, do we have any Catalonians on this board?
Yes, we do. And he speaks at least three languages fluently, probably four or more.
The American reaction reminds me of one of the Star Trek movies. Kirk and a few of the other guys were trying to decipher a mysterious signal that was being transmitted to Earth. They couldn't make head or tail of it. But then Mr. Spock, who had kept his silence till then, explained that the signal would sound different underwater, and that the signal was not directed at the human population, but to whales in the oceans. His one word assessment for why the rest of the (human) crew aboard ship had failed to realise that the signal was not intended for humans was "arrogance".
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I always wondered how an extraterrestrial radio signal was deciphered and turned into audio so that sea creatures could hear it. Must have something to do with dilithium crystals.
Quick Beetle, without looking it up, what's a Wyoming flag look like?
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Originally posted by beet1e
Yes, we do. And he speaks at least three languages fluently, probably four or more.
Who is he?
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His one word assessment for why the rest of the (human) crew aboard ship had failed to realise that the signal was not intended for humans was "arrogance".
Silly Americans thinking September 11 has something to do with them. Don't they realize it's the national day of Catalonia?
Beet, you are a jerk. Why don't you take a bow?
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eeks Beet...I'll poke fun at Amercan arrogance over things like the World Series...but 9/11?
Bad form old chap.
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Originally posted by Curval
eeks Beet...I'll poke fun at Amercan arrogance over things like the World Series...but 9/11?
Bad form old chap.
Nope. Just pointing out that the US does not have exclusive rights to depict September 11 as a black day. Of course, it WAS a black day - in 2001. But Spain remembers that date for another, and no less valid, reason. Just because it was centuries ago, and in another part of the world, in no way detracts from that day's historical significance. It marked the end of a war in which many more than 3000 died.
That region of Spain has its own language, still in active use today.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Catalonia
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Wow impressive display Beet!! Enjoy a nice cup!!
IKON
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Who is he?
CyranoAH
And for the American chocked by Beetle post remember your national day is also the day of Saladin's victory.
But well I don't think you ever learned the history of the Franc :D
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Originally posted by Curval
eeks Beet...I'll poke fun at Amercan arrogance over things like the World Series...but 9/11?
Bad form old chap.
Crassness.
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Who exactly is arrogant Beetle?
Sheesh.
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Originally posted by straffo
CyranoAH
aha, i talk to him all the time on MSN, should know that then :D
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Indeed, it is "La Diada" (short for La Diada nacional de Catalunya)
We were all on holiday here that dreaded day. All celebrations were cancelled the moment it was confirmed the crashes were no accidents.
But life goes on, and today is indeed the national holiday of Catalunya, which is, itself, a part of Spain.
(http://www.orbilat.com/Maps/Catalan/Catalan.gif)
Daniel
PS: BTW thanks for remembering Beetle, this holiday has been somewhat, and comprensibly, buried under all that happened on 2001.
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Sept 11th is not only for the WTC..It marked the beginning of the war of 1812.
And looking at the map..I've been there many times...In Valencia and Barcelona...
Also been to Palma de Mallorca...and Mahon Menorca.
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twits
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Beet1e, i thought you were a better person than this.
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beetle has dropped to the level of nothing more than a troll merchant. He deserves only an ignore function for his lack of taste and concern.
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Very poor form. I changed the title though. The previous title just wreaked of flame bait.
Incredibly insensitive beet.
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Originally posted by beet1e
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Daniel - I beat you to it this year!
youre so cool! so is daniel!
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Originally posted by Eagler
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That's very clever , 2 contributions to this thread and 2 insults.
Please go back to your usual "Ihatetehliberul" posts and go away.
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so catalonians are.... whales? I don't speak whale.. what other two languages does he speak?
lazs
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Originally posted by straffo
CyranoAH
And for the American chocked by Beetle post remember your national day is also the day of Saladin's victory.
But well I don't think you ever learned the history of the Franc :D
more smileys please, its such a happy day :rolleyes:
the purpose of the thread was to insult cornhole, I am just re-directing it
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Originally posted by lazs2
so catalonians are.... whales? I don't speak whale.. what other two languages does he speak?
lazs
Catalonian ,Spanish ,English and French that make 4 languages.
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Originally posted by Eagler
more smileys please, its such a happy day :rolleyes:
the purpose of the thread was to insult cornhole, I am just re-directing it
I know what I did post no need to repost it ,notice I wrote history of the Franc not France.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Very poor form. I changed the title though. The previous title just wreaked of flame bait.
Incredibly insensitive beet.
Well I am surprised. Could have been worse though. All I did was to point out that Sept 11 is a significant date in Spanish history. 911 (2001) was bad for Britain too - I believe about 100 Brits were killed in the WTC.
As to Catalonia, it was a fierce struggle. I do believe (and Daniel might want to correct me) that the four red stripes on the flag represent blood trails made by the four fingers of a dying man as he reached out to a yellow cloth or wall.
But hey, the US has celebrated July 4 since 1776 - why should celebrations of the liberation of Catalunya be muted or gagged just because it happened on Sept.11 (1714)?
I think Europeans have different ways of dealing with grief/bereavement. Sure, 911 2001 was bad. But life goes on. Let's not forget the rest of the world...
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Beetle.
the only thing you really accomplished here was to show that you have all of the worst qualities you charge all Americans with. Why don't you do yourself a favor and go through this thread with an open mind and use it as a growing experience.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Well I am surprised. Could have been worse though. All I did was to point out that Sept 11 is a significant date in Spanish history. 911 (2001) was bad for Britain too - I believe about 100 Brits were killed in the WTC.
As to Catalonia, it was a fierce struggle. I do believe (and Daniel might want to correct me) that the four red stripes on the flag represent blood trails made by the four fingers of a dying man as he reached out to a yellow cloth or wall.
But hey, the US has celebrated July 4 since 1776 - why should celebrations of the liberation of Catalunya be muted or gagged just because it happened on Sept.11 (1714)?
I think Europeans have different ways of dealing with grief/bereavement. Sure, 911 2001 was bad. But life goes on. Let's not forget the rest of the world...
Nonsense. The title of the orginal thread was pure BS and pure flamebait and you knew it. Dont try to weazel out of it..
Imagine how a Spanish message board would take a thread called:
"March 11, Rejoice!!!"
Or a Polish board:
"September 1, Rejoice!"
Or a Russian Board
"June 22, Rejoice!"
Then finally an American board:
"September 11, Rejoice!"
What you wrote in that thread title was incredibly stupid, insesnsitive and callous. None of it was made better by the cryptic post with only a flag picture in it.. Your weak attemts now to explain it away are just pathetic and wrong.
Just admit that you screwed up and move on...
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Originally posted by beet1e
Nope. Just pointing out that the US does not have exclusive rights to depict September 11 as a black day. Of course, it WAS a black day - in 2001. But Spain remembers that date for another, and no less valid, reason. Just because it was centuries ago, and in another part of the world, in no way detracts from that day's historical significance. It marked the end of a war in which many more than 3000 died.
That region of Spain has its own language, still in active use today.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Catalonia
So, if I were to do a search of your posts I'd find many national day congratulatory messages on days other than the one Americans so painfully remember? If this is true then I hold you blameless. If it's not true then perhaps you'd be better received by posting your congratulatory message on a Catalonian BBS rather than lecture us here on an American BBS about our non-ownership of this day.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Sure, 911 2001 was bad. But life goes on. Let's not forget the rest of the world...
But you make it so easy......
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Originally posted by beet1e
Well I am surprised. Could have been worse though. All I did was to point out that Sept 11 is a significant date in Spanish history. 911 (2001) was bad for Britain too - I believe about 100 Brits were killed in the WTC.
As to Catalonia, it was a fierce struggle. I do believe (and Daniel might want to correct me) that the four red stripes on the flag represent blood trails made by the four fingers of a dying man as he reached out to a yellow cloth or wall.
But hey, the US has celebrated July 4 since 1776 - why should celebrations of the liberation of Catalunya be muted or gagged just because it happened on Sept.11 (1714)?
I think Europeans have different ways of dealing with grief/bereavement. Sure, 911 2001 was bad. But life goes on. Let's not forget the rest of the world...
respect is earned and goes both ways. i gurantee that if england or any other country had a similar tragic day and a bunch of brits posted "dont forget" not one american would do anything along the lines of what you did. if the russians lost all those kids on the fourth of july the americans would be posting about the kids in a show of solidarity. if daniel had mentioned "hey by the way you guys probably dont know this but sept 11th is my countrys independence day-what are the odds?" hed get nothing but congratulations. who the hell are you to tell people to move on. the anniversary isnt that big of a deal to me either but id never think it my place to tell people to move on. im not their dad or their counselor. im just some guy they type to on the internet. what makes you so different?
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Grunherz - I'm not weazling out of anything. I have done nothing wrong. I pointed out that Sept.11 is an important day in Spanish/Catalunyan history, and is indeed a public holiday. I spent a couple of weeks in that region in 2002, and those flags are everywhere. My brother was with me and, being a bit of a political historian, explained the conflict, and the origins of the Catalan language etc.
Originally posted by AKIron
If it's not true then perhaps you'd be better received by posting your congratulatory message on a Catalonian BBS rather than lecture us here on an American BBS about our non-ownership of this day.
Iron, it's NOT "an American BBS". OK, the servers may be located in the US, but as Skuzzy/HTC have pointed out in the past, and in case you hadn't noticed, we are an international community, with posters and players from perhaps as many as 40 different countries. As Daniel/CyranoAH has observed, further up ^ Catalunya's celebrations have been buried by the 2001 events. What is wrong with noting that OTHER events occurred on that date?
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hey beetle if youre not from Catalonia why dont you get daniel to fill us in on the history. you brought it up wed like to hear about the story behind Catalonia and its national day more than wed like to hear your sage advice that people "move on". nothing personal.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Grunherz - I'm not weazling out of anything. I have done nothing wrong. I pointed out that Sept.11 is an important day in Spanish/Catalunyan history, and is indeed a public holiday. I spent a couple of weeks in that region in 2002, and those flags are everywhere. My brother was with me and, being a bit of a political historian, explained the conflict, and the origins of the Catalan language etc. Iron, it's NOT "an American BBS". OK, the servers may be located in the US, but as Skuzzy/HTC have pointed out in the past, and in case you hadn't noticed, we are an international community, with posters and players from perhaps as many as 40 different countries. As Daniel/CyranoAH has observed, further up ^ Catalunya's celebrations have been buried by the 2001 events. What is wrong with noting that OTHER events occurred on that date?
That clearly wasn't the point of your post.
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BS Beetle, the title of this thread was pure flamebait and your post indicated nothing about the content or context. Before you say anything, you even admit yourself that you had to be educated on the topic by your historian friend during a trip the region yet you expect people on this board to undertand it all that history and meaning, not to mention decipher your intent just by seeing a flag that is resonably unfamiliar to 99% of the peple in this world. All on September 11, on a board that is mostly read by americans...
All that with the thread title...
"September 11, rejoice!!!"
Nonsense. It's even more pathetic and callous that you refuse to admit any error or offer an apology.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Grunherz - I'm not weazling out of anything. I have done nothing wrong. I pointed out that Sept.11 is an important day in Spanish/Catalunyan history, and is indeed a public holiday. I spent a couple of weeks in that region in 2002, and those flags are everywhere. My brother was with me and, being a bit of a political historian, explained the conflict, and the origins of the Catalan language etc. Iron, it's NOT "an American BBS". OK, the servers may be located in the US, but as Skuzzy/HTC have pointed out in the past, and in case you hadn't noticed, we are an international community, with posters and players from perhaps as many as 40 different countries. As Daniel/CyranoAH has observed, further up ^ Catalunya's celebrations have been buried by the 2001 events. What is wrong with noting that OTHER events occurred on that date?
It's all about intent. Your intent was to be a jerk.
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Over on AGW Beetle used to refer to the folks in AH as “stunninghunks High".
Folks over looked it for the most part and gave him a decent welcome. Since then he has proven who the true stunninghunk is.
His post isn’t to info us "Ignorant American's" of what Sept 11 means to Catalonians. I am sure if I did a search I could find many other historical occurrences that took place on Sept 11. As a matter of fact my aunt was burn on Sept. 11.
"How dare you Ami idiots not recognize that and instead choose to remember the 3000 people who died. You stupid bastards you don't own Sept. 11."
He is just here stirring the pot and going out of his way to offend just because he can.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Yes, we do. And he speaks at least three languages fluently, probably four or more.
The American reaction reminds me of one of the Star Trek movies. Kirk and a few of the other guys were trying to decipher a mysterious signal that was being transmitted to Earth. They couldn't make head or tail of it. But then Mr. Spock, who had kept his silence till then, explained that the signal would sound different underwater, and that the signal was not directed at the human population, but to whales in the oceans. His one word assessment for why the rest of the (human) crew aboard ship had failed to realise that the signal was not intended for humans was "arrogance".
This coming from a Brit lol :rolleyes:
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I don't get it. Where are all the "Off Topic" posts for everyone that's trying to talk about the WTC attacks in a thread about Catalonia's National day?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I don't get it. Where are all the "Off Topic" posts for everyone that's trying to talk about the WTC attacks in a thread about Catalonia's National day?
Waaaa
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Before it gets any worse, here are 2 links:
A brief history of Catalunya
http://www10.gencat.net/gencat/AppJava/es/catalunya/laclau/english/thepeople/history.jsp
And the flag (La Senyera)
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/jolle/catalonia/cat_1a.htm
Daniel
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I don't get it. Where are all the "Off Topic" posts for everyone that's trying to talk about the WTC attacks in a thread about Catalonia's National day?
Dumb. Have you no idea how this started? But I understand that you might you need to get your dig in today too.. :(
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Originally posted by beet1e
Yes, we do. And he speaks at least three languages fluently, probably four or more.
The American reaction reminds me of one of the Star Trek movies. Kirk and a few of the other guys were trying to decipher a mysterious signal that was being transmitted to Earth. They couldn't make head or tail of it. But then Mr. Spock, who had kept his silence till then, explained that the signal would sound different underwater, and that the signal was not directed at the human population, but to whales in the oceans. His one word assessment for why the rest of the (human) crew aboard ship had failed to realise that the signal was not intended for humans was "arrogance".
Nerd!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
BS Beetle, the title of this thread was pure flamebait and your post indicated nothing about the content or context. Before you say anything, you even admit yourself that you had to be educated on the topic by your historian friend during a trip the region yet you expect people on this board to undertand it all that history and meaning, not to mention decipher your intent just by seeing a flag that is resonably unfamiliar to 99% of the peple in this world. All on September 11, on a board that is mostly read by americans...
All that with the thread title...
"September 11, rejoice!!!"
Nonsense. It's even more pathetic and callous that you refuse to admit any error or offer an apology.
You're wrong, Grunherz. The Sept.11/Catalunya celebration is a thing I have going with Cyrano. There was even a thread last year, in which he noted it first - he beat me to it. If you would kindly review this (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95996) thread (Sept.11,2003), you will see where Daniel points out that it's a public holiday in Catalunya. I had been about to post the same thing. So this year I thought I'd get there first. If you look under the flag, there's even some silver text to Daniel. Simple as that - see?
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Originally posted by beet1e
You're wrong, Grunherz. The Sept.11/Catalunya celebration is a thing I have going with Cyrano. There was even a thread last year, in which he noted it first - he beat me to it. If you would kindly review this (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95996) thread (Sept.11,2003), you will see where Daniel points out that it's a public holiday in Catalunya. I had been about to post the same thing. So this year I thought I'd get there first. If you look under the flag, there's even some silver text to Daniel. Simple as that - see?
I'd find that almost believable if you did not not follow up with "I gotcha U stupid Ameekans!" posts... You baited and slammed once you thought your trap was sprung. In reality, you only showed that you have the capacity to be what you accuse others of being.
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Ahh well Beetle that makes it obvious for everyone, especilaly the reasonably obscure flag and the hidden cryptic text. Not to mention all of it was obvious in the first post - how were we stupid to not remeber that old thread... All our fault...How could we not see that the content of your first post really clears up any possible confusion about these words:
"September 11, Rejoice!!!"
Sorry Beettle I dont buy it and most peopel dont either. Especially considering you other posts in thsi thread. :rolleyes:
Just admit you screwed up. You offended a whole lot of americans on this board yet you refuse to acknowledge that. Please apologize. Or maybe your intent was to offend and that is why you refuse to make ammends... Your choice Bettele...
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
I'd find that almost believable if you did not not follow up with "I gotcha U stupid Ameekans!" posts... You baited and slammed once you thought your trap was sprung.
I did no such thing. I was slightly miffed that a few Americans thought that I must be talking about their country. I wasn't. I was talking about Catalunya. Time for people to get a sense of proportion and understand that not every post on this forum is about America. And no country "owns" any date in the calendar. When I mentioned the Spock/Star Trek thing, I was being truthful. That really was the first thing that sprang to mind - have you seen that ST movie where he says that?
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Originally posted by beet1e
I did no such thing. I was slightly miffed that a few Americans thought that I must be talking about their country. I wasn't. I was talking about Catalunya. Time for people to get a sense of proportion and understand that not every post on this forum is about America. And no country "owns" any date in the calendar. When I mentioned the Spock/Star Trek thing, I was being truthful. That really was the first thing that sprang to mind - have you seen that ST movie where he says that?
That's crap. Attempts to hide your idiocy really isn't fooling anyone.
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Originally posted by beet1e
I did no such thing. I was slightly miffed that a few Americans thought that I must be talking about their country. I wasn't. I was talking about Catalunya. Time for people to get a sense of proportion and understand that not every post on this forum is about America. And no country "owns" any date in the calendar. When I mentioned the Spock/Star Trek thing, I was being truthful. That really was the first thing that sprang to mind - have you seen that ST movie where he says that?
Low rent.
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Originally posted by beet1e
You're wrong, Grunherz. The Sept.11/Catalunya celebration is a thing I have going with Cyrano. There was even a thread last year, in which he noted it first - he beat me to it. If you would kindly review this (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95996) thread (Sept.11,2003), you will see where Daniel points out that it's a public holiday in Catalunya. I had been about to post the same thing. So this year I thought I'd get there first. If you look under the flag, there's even some silver text to Daniel. Simple as that - see?
Oh please beet1e you aren't fooling anyone, your agenda was clear. And although I support the idea of bringing up an interesting topic of cultural perspective, you at least should have the balls to own it.
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Originally posted by beet1e
I did no such thing. I was slightly miffed that a few Americans thought that I must be talking about their country. I wasn't. I was talking about Catalunya. Time for people to get a sense of proportion and understand that not every post on this forum is about America. And no country "owns" any date in the calendar. When I mentioned the Spock/Star Trek thing, I was being truthful. That really was the first thing that sprang to mind - have you seen that ST movie where he says that?
Before your "joo stupeed Amerrekans!" tirade there was nothing but "I don't get it" or "What's this about" along with one who did. None of them tied your trap to the WTC yet you figured it was close enough and went off anyway. Clearly you had an agenda and it revealed nothing other than your shortcomings as a human being. Please be man enough to own up to your actions and just say your sorry instead of digging a deeper hole with worthless excuses.
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Grunherz/rabbidrabbit.
No apology. I have nothing for which I feel the need to apologise.
Too bad if you read into threads what isn't there.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Grunherz/rabbidrabbit.
No apology. I have nothing for which I feel the need to apologise.
Too bad if you read into threads what isn't there.
Thankfully this statement leaves no doubt about your true feelings..
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Originally posted by beet1e
Grunherz/rabbidrabbit.
No apology. I have nothing for which I feel the need to apologise.
Too bad if you read into threads what isn't there.
Oh god, beet1e there's only one of two intentions behind the title of your thread could have been. One that you are incredibly simpleminded (which you're not) and could not possibly see how it could be intrepreted, (rejoicing on 9/11? no that could be seen as disrespectfull :rolleyes: ), or it was a delibrate troll.
Now fine, I can see why one may use such a provocative title to open up what I thought could have been an interesting discussion. But to carry on like that wasn't your intention insults the intelligence of everyone on this board, an in my opinion represents the height of intellectual dishonesty. But this isn't the first time I've seen this type of discourse style from you.
I strangely enough have a wierd image of you sitting gleefully counting down the days until you could post this, but I guess I'm just a fantasist. Not to take Cyrano's part...but I will, I find it also repugnant that you would disingenuously co-op him into this troll as well.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I strangely enough have a wierd image of you sitting gleefully counting down the days until you could post this, but I guess I'm just a fantasist. Not to take Cyrano's part...but I will, I find it also repugnant that you would disingenuously co-op him into this troll as well.
It's a thread about Catalunya - the flag made that quite clear in the initial post. No troll. Cyrano is OK too. Quit your paranoia. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by beet1e
It's a thread about Catalunya - the flag made that quite clear in the initial post. No troll. Cyrano is OK too. Quit your paranoia. :rolleyes:
Wow you continue with this BS...
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Originally posted by beet1e
It's a thread about Catalunya - the flag made that quite clear in the initial post. No troll. Cyrano is OK too. Quit your paranoia. :rolleyes:
Right, so you honestly couldn't and can't see how the orginal title alone of your thread might be misintrepreted by a great number of people?
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Ah for Jaysus sake, Beetle, I'm not even American and it irked me. Stop digging a deeper hole than you're already in.
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Beetle its very simple:
Are you at all sorry that the thread title you choose has obviously upset many people here on this sensitive day?
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I just know that some poor English village is missing their idiot, could someone please take Beetle home?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Beetle its very simple:
Are you at all sorry that the thread title you choose has obviously upset many people here on this sensitive day?
Oh don't give him that out. If you do he can still continue to claim that it wasn't a deliberate troll, but that he's sorry for any misunderstanding.
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We will see, thought I'm pretty sure that it was a troll considering his other posts..
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Originally posted by cpxxx
Ah for Jaysus sake, Beetle, I'm not even American and it irked me. Stop digging a deeper hole than you're already in.
Too bad. I loved Dublin. I loved the relaxed attitude everywhere, and the way the bartenders would bring your Guinness over to you.
No mention of any non-Euro country in my initial post.
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I know I know, just friendly advice from a neighbour Beetle. Next time visit Galway it's even more relaxed.
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Coward.
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Hey, I know where Catalonia is.
Daniel, I wish you many more.
Originally posted by lazs2
so catalonians are.... whales? I don't speak whale.. what other two languages does he speak?
lazs
Actually made me laugh. Lazs, I think you need to invite our English friend back to the US for some more target practice. In fact, in a celebration of his heritage, he should wear a shirt with the "British Bulleye" on the back.
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Near the Pyranees, but all I have is this map of the Grand Tetons.
(http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/crashnet/20040820/11/1408202770.jpg)
That's one heck of a view of the grand Tetons. That particular range isn't on my map, post more if ya got em:D
Originally posted by beet1e
Nope. Just pointing out that the US does not have exclusive rights to depict September 11 as a black day. Of course, it WAS a black day - in 2001. But Spain remembers that date for another, and no less valid, reason. Just because it was centuries ago, and in another part of the world, in no way detracts from that day's historical significance. It marked the end of a war in which many more than 3000 died.
That region of Spain has its own language, still in active use today.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Catalonia
Just so ya know, I know where Catalonia is, without the maps. As for as the part of your quote that I put in italics, this day for the world marks the day that 3000 more died in a war that many won't admit we are in, and have been in for years. And will be in for years. This includes you.
And your claims that this post was anything other than a troll, in very poor taste, is countered in your own words.
Originally posted by beet1e
Nope. Just pointing out that the US does not have exclusive rights to depict September 11 as a black day.[/B]
A black day? I thought this thread was about a great day in Catalonian history?
Get a grip and quit trollin m8.
Or do a better job at it.
edit:changed the word bold to italics, qoute was already in bold
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Sept 11th is not only for the WTC..It marked the beginning of the war of 1812.
According to Beet1e's source, it was the date of the last battle of the War of 1812, not including the Battle of New Orleans, whatever that means.
So Americans have reason to celebrate and mourn on the 11th day of September every year. We mourn the loss of our regained cofidence that we were immune from the evils that the rest of the world had been experiencing for 3 decades, and the loss of life in an attack never before seen on our soil. And we can celebrate the defeat of an evil tyrranical country that wished to enslave us and make us a colony again.
Thanks for making me look at the date closer Beet1e, and thanks for the source.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Oh please beet1e you aren't fooling anyone, your agenda was clear. And although I support the idea of bringing up an interesting topic of cultural perspective, you at least should have the balls to own it.
You'll have to speak to me in standard English. I'm not up to speed with all this "own3d/pwned" rubbish...
Gawd, thank Cod it's September 12 already, and we can celebrate something else - the anniversary of Bush's decision to go to war with Iraq?
I think it's unfair to blame me for upsetting people in this thread. That's like saying that "fog causes car accidents", when there's been a major highway pile up in conditions of low visibility. Actually some people DO say that - nothing to do with the fact that they failed to adjust their speed to the conditions...
Maybe my original thread title was somewhat high profile. I didn't see that this would be a problem. I thought that anyone who did trouble to look at my post would see that it was about a European issue, and simply move on.
I will say that in hindsight, if I knew so many people were going to take umbrage, I might have chosen a different title, like the one skuzzy used as a substitute.
But I don't feel that on a BBS, even one so US-centric as this, that people should be barred from noting dates of historical importance in one country, just because the date coincided with a disaster somewhere else.
Lazerus - nothing worthy of a reply.
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Beet, when are you coming to the U.S.? It is high time you bought me a nice dinner, steak will be fine.
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Originally posted by beet1e
You'll have to speak to me in standard English. I'm not up to speed with all this "own3d/pwned" rubbish...
Okay...
I think it's unfair to blame me for upsetting people in this thread.
No, it's fair, you got what you expected...
Maybe my original thread title was somewhat high profile.
Ya think?
Lazerus - nothing worthy of a reply.
and yet you replied...
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Originally posted by Steve
Beet, when are you coming to the U.S.? It is high time you bought me a nice dinner, steak will be fine.
On Thursday, actually. But not to AZ. If you can make it to NY, I'll buy you as many steaks as you can eat.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Lazerus - nothing worthy of a reply.
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
and yet you replied...
Was kinda thinking the same thing, glad someone else posted it though.
Did I shut beet1e up? Or is he just tired of trying to defend an indefensible position?
Only beet1e will tell.
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Originally posted by Lazerus
Did I shut beet1e up? Or is he just tired of trying to defend an indefensible position?
Who are you asking?
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Originally posted by Lazerus
Or is he just tired of trying to defend an indefensible position?
Only beet1e will tell.
The answer to your question is in the post you replied to.
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Oh I see. You are addressing me in the third person, just like Blair and Howard speak to each other across the despatch box. :lol
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Originally posted by beet1e
That's like saying that "fog causes car accidents", when there's been a major highway pile up in conditions of low visibility. Actually some people DO say that - nothing to do with the fact that they failed to adjust their speed to the conditions...
just had to quote this from him.
interesting
in light of the other threads and subjects, he posts in or starts.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Lazerus - nothing worthy of a reply.
Oh I see. You are addressing me in the third person
Just trying to find out if you can continue behaving the way you were this entire thread, or if you are done making excuses for your behaviour.
It seems like you are done trying to make excuses and are trying to change the subject, although what you would be changing it too I can't imagine.
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I'm still trying to figure how Beetle post was a troll.
Perhaps is it because I need to translate each posts but I don't see anything like a troll in Beetle post.
But I see a lot of victim of nombrilism here.