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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Guppy35 on September 11, 2004, 01:51:01 PM
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read the fine print on the nose :)
Dan/Slack
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heh, it'd be more pointed if it were on a p-51b.
:D
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Figured since I had it on an actual combat P51D, it would have to do :)
Dan/Slack
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It'd be even funnier if it was on a La7 :lol
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We need this skin ingame. NOW :)
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actually, i see very few if any la7 drivers *****in' about the eny-limiter. i'm not.
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Originally posted by Shane
actually, i see very few if any la7 drivers *****in' about the eny-limiter. i'm not.
You missed the beginning of this war, then. :D
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Originally posted by Octavius
We need this skin ingame. NOW :)
Here ya go Octavius.
457th FS, 506th FG P51D based on Iwo, Summer of 45 flying the VLF missions to Japan. First photo I posted was taken on Tinian before they got into combat. Lower image was taken at a later time while on Iwo after they went into combat. On Tinian they had the striped tails but painted them solid green for squadron ID just before moving to Iwo Jima.
Dan/Slack
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Rather amusing post considering the plane inwhich this nose art is on. Wonder why he had the balls in the first place to put "KWITCHER*****IN" on his bird.
Maybe because he was flying the D model Mustang and not forced to fly some other inferior bird in a theatre with almost every bird available in WWII?
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The P-51 is truly a beautiful plane. Form follows function in every part.
Anyways ... the Lala dweebs still got the La-5FN when the -7 is unavailable. Almost as über and still catches a Pony on the deck.
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Originally posted by Cobra412
Rather amusing post considering the plane inwhich this nose art is on. Wonder why he had the balls in the first place to put "KWITCHER*****IN" on his bird.
Maybe because he was flying the D model Mustang and not forced to fly some other inferior bird in a theatre with almost every bird available in WWII?
Neh ... he switched from rooks to fly it. :aok
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Originally posted by Cobra412
Rather amusing post considering the plane inwhich this nose art is on. Wonder why he had the balls in the first place to put "KWITCHER*****IN" on his bird.
Maybe because he was flying the D model Mustang and not forced to fly some other inferior bird in a theatre with almost every bird available in WWII?
LOL the 457th learned their trade on B models before finally getting D models in mid 45.
And any pilot who flew those VLR missions to Japan from Iwo "had the balls". Those were longer flights then the raids from England to Germany and mostly over water in a single engined fighter with fairly primitive navigation aides.
That guy can put any thing he wants on his P51 :)
And keep in mind there were guys flying inferior birds even in 45. There were Hurri IIs still hard at it in Italy and the Pacific. P39s were still out there, P40s still in action, etc etc.
Its not like it reached a point anytime during WW2 where everyone was flying the latest and greatest.
Dan/Slack
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(Maybe because he was flying the D model Mustang and not forced to fly some other inferior bird in a theatre with almost every bird available in WWII?)
Cobra,
Maybe he was fighting for his life, for real, in real war and needed that Mustang to do his job and get home in one piece.
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Again Guppy considering your trying to flame Mustang drivers your lastest post is a bit off. Why state anything about learning their trade in Bs? Seems to me by your post he was flying these "extreme" combat missions in a D.
457th FS, 506th FG P51D based on Iwo, Summer of 45 flying the VLF missions to Japan. First photo I posted was taken on Tinian before they got into combat. Lower image was taken at a later time while on Iwo after they went into combat. On Tinian they had the striped tails but painted them solid green for squadron ID just before moving to Iwo Jima.
Also what exactly is your point by showing a D Mustang with this name on it? It's obvious this pilot by your first photo he hadn't done watermelon prior to getting to IWO and flying a D. Or was your first photo right after the paint job and prior to his crew chief painting any kill markings?
Maybe next time you'll find a cute photo of a crew that has actually done something in an inferior aircraft with a similiar statement on the side. Oh but don't forget this bird has to have flown against every bird imaginable in WWII. They also have to have had the very likely chance of running into any of these birds on every mission they flew on a daily basis.
It's just simply amusing to post a photo like this trying to flame Mustang drivers. Considering one the pilot hadn't done watermelon until he flew D models, two he had his funny logo prior to ever doing chit, three he never had the chance of seeing every WWII bird on one mission and well three he was flying D Mustang himself. So basically your flame on Mustang drivers is amusing to say the least. No point and the ironic that the man with this saying flew that bird himself.
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Originally posted by Cobra412
Again Guppy hisssssss spit hissssssss spit
Oh my ... we are in a bad mood now, aren't we? :D
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Originally posted by Cobra412
Maybe because he was flying the D model Mustang and not forced to fly some other inferior bird in a theatre with almost every bird available in WWII?
If you're referring to inferior planes like the P-40, there were more P-40 aces in the PTO/CBU than P-51 aces. Not bad for an inferior plane.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If you're referring to inferior planes like the P-40, there were more P-40 aces in the PTO/CBU than P-51 aces. Not bad for an inferior plane.
ack-ack
Are you baiting for zeke whines? Huh?
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Blooz then what exactly is Guppys point of flaming Mustang drivers? Is he lowering his standards like those who flame Spitfire drivers? IIRC Guppy was and still is defending Spitfire pilots and the bird itself. The ony thing he's doing now is lowering himself to the same standards the he constantly defended against previously.
And Arlo say what you'd like but frankly the flame he's doing is rather weak and pointless considering the background evidence he's chosen to post. Using a D Mustang driver with the saying KWITCHER*****IN to flame D Mustang drivers in AH about their *****in. Rather amusing if you ask me.
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Yanno as much as I dissagree with Eny
There is one solution, One single thing the players CAN do about it.
Zazens gonna like this one.
although the ones that complain about these so called "timid" pilots may not.
the answer is this.
Log on when ENY isnt in effect on your country up in your favorite plane then..
Dont die.
dont get shot down and you wont loose your plane.
Land. re arm, Re up. and you can have your plane of choice all nght long.
Course once ya do die your screwed. LOL
Oh and BTW dont end mission either or it wont work
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Ack Ack I don't doubt at all that there was a time during WWII where birds were outclassed in particular regions. I also don't doubt that there are many aircrews who faced extreme odds as to whether or not they'd return due to the inferior rigs they were flying.
My point is that it's pointless to post a photo of an original D Mustang with this saying to flame D Mustang drivers here. It's like the pot calling the kettle black if you asked me. It's also rather unfortunate considering how Guppy acted in the past when folks flamed Spitfires and now he's doing the exact same thing to the Mustang. He's no better than those that he defended against in the past. I'm sure many of you can think of the word that goes with this.
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Originally posted by Cobra412
Using a D Mustang driver with the saying KWITCHER*****IN to flame D Mustang drivers in AH about their *****in. Rather amusing if you ask me.
More than you obviously realize. ;)
p.s. ... unknot em, Sally ... he's not sniping the D ponyheads.
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Jeez I guess Shane was right. Too bad the actual photo wasn't of another plane.
I used that photo because it was a photo that seemed to fit the them with the complaining from the guys who fly D model Mustangs about not having them all the time.
If I could have found another pic with the same phrase I would have used it. But as the D Mustang drivers were the ones that seem the most bent out of shape, it reminded me of the photo in question that I had in my collection.
Frankly Cobra412, I could care less if you flew a D model every time you went up.
The point is simple. Folks need to relax about the ENY stuff, and enjoy the game for what it is. And if flying a Merlin Mustang is all you want to do, you still have the B model.
Personally I like Mustangs. I can talk Mustangs all day if you want. The history of the 51 and the groups that flew it is a strong interest of mine. Looking at the shelves nearby I can see the group histories of 9 Mustang Groups. I won't even begin to count the books on the 51 or pilots who flew them also on the shelves. So what, who cares right?
There is nothing in the game that is AH worth getting that worked up about, and the never ending "I want MY PLANE and I'm gonna stomp my feet and hold my breath til I turn blue" threads get old.
I though a little humor might help. Clearly it didn't work for some :)
On a side note, I don't recall ever demanding a Spitfire. And I don't recall any tantrums about it anywhere other then back in AW when I to my everlasting shame blew a gasket about Spit range in a scenaro. Still get that one thrown in my face now and then :)
Talking about Spit history is a different ballgame. I'd do the same with Mustangs if it ever arose, but the LW guys seem to get the most bent out of shape about the Spits for some reason.
Dan/Slack
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Guppy just seems most folks only know how to flame in our community. That may be the reason I reacted the way I did. Your subject matter heading made it a direct flame on Mustang drivers, For the "Gotta have my P51D" whiners.
It seems it doesn't matter in the community what bird you fly if it seems uber folks will flame it. I don't always fly the Mustang either. I've started to fly the P-47D40 and the P-40E. If folks learned that both of these birds can be lethal too, next thing you know folks will flame those too. Does that mean posts like yours will arise again when this happens? They most likely will. If the new eny affects them too I'm sure you'll hear more "whines".
Simple fact is these "whines" started because folks originally "whined" about numbers. I'm not gonna start a whole "eny/numbers" debate. One thing is for certain is war is unfair, war is never even and war is competitive. The base platform for game play has its errors in it. They'll continue to fight to fix what some feel they think needs fixing through out the life of the game. Who's fault is it really that folks are to stubborn to call a truce and concentrate efforts? What it comes down to for the most part is the game induces the whines. People get fed up and voice their opinion. When they do folks such as yourself feel the need to flame them in some way no matter how subtle it may be.
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Originally posted by Cobra412
One thing is for certain is war is unfair, war is never even and war is competitive. The base platform for game play has its errors in it. They'll continue to fight to fix what some feel they think needs fixing through out the life of the game. Who's fault is it really that folks are to stubborn to call a truce and concentrate efforts? What it comes down to for the most part is the game induces the whines. People get fed up and voice their opinion. When they do folks such as yourself feel the need to flame them in some way no matter how subtle it may be.
But the MA isn't a war ... it's a game. You want to find a different arena, methinks. But, be advised .... it won't have the D pony often. Good luck.
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Basically Cobra412, I wanted the 51 drivers to see it, hence the thread title.
I've spent a lot of time in the last year researching the 506th FG and thier Iwo Mustangs. That photo kept popping into my head each time I'd see one of the threads where a guy was complaining about not having his D Model Mustang.
I thought maybe, just maybe, they'd find the humor in it.
Clearly that wasn't the case :)
Dan/Slack
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Arlo I'm not complaining about the MA or eny bit. If I feel like flying a Mustang and can't then I go find something else to do. There also those nights where it really doesn't matter what I fly and I'll go grab the P-47 or P-40. That's my personal preference though.
Some others don't feel that way. They have a right to voice their opinions without being flamed. Again though our community doesn't know anything different. If your not being cussed out by someone here then your being flamed. Our community is full of immature brats that make this game into what it is, inhospitable. People would rather go somewhere else than deal with it. This game is here for the majority of us to relax and have some fun.
The incessant whinning from all over the community is what makes it what it is also. Whine about numbers, you get an eny. Because of the whine about numbers the eny is put in place and you get whines about the eny. It's a vicious circle that will continue so long as we have the player base we have.
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I just wanted to quote this because ....
Originally posted by Cobra412
The incessant whinning from all over the community is what makes it what it is also. Whine about numbers, you get an eny. Because of the whine about numbers the eny is put in place and you get whines about the eny. It's a vicious circle that will continue so long as we have the player base we have.
AMEN, BRUTHAH! HalleLUjah!
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I understand that now Guppy but I'm sure some will see it as purely a flame and not so funny. It seems conflict is all we know in AH. If it's not in our actual battles in the arenas it's in here. I can imagine that the Mustang isn't the only thing being complained about. I've seen many folks disturbed that they can't up Panzers too.
I'm sure many had noticed the whines just about putting AH2 online. It seems our community hates change and will whine about it till it's back to what they know as the "norm". In some cases they have a point and in others well they are being selfish. Even in those cases they do have some point. Those who are willing to switch to gain what they feel is the norm get flamed almost immediately by that country.
Another thing is the current time limits cause even more turmoil. Because the game is dynamic in all aspects the numbers can shift dramatically. So those who chose to play by HTs rules and try to help the community now get screwed. Why? Well because they switched for whatever reason and now they are stuck there because they can't go back and even it out. Basically had the whines for numbers not been a factor then we wouldn't hear these whines about aircraft limiting. It could have easily been remedied had 2 out of three sides not been so stubborn and just joined arms against the larger of the 3 countries. Again though the game setup induced this not the community as a whole IMO.
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Originally posted by Cobra412
Blooz then what exactly is Guppys point of flaming Mustang drivers? Is he lowering his standards like those who flame Spitfire drivers? IIRC Guppy was and still is defending Spitfire pilots and the bird itself. The ony thing he's doing now is lowering himself to the same standards the he constantly defended against previously.
And Arlo say what you'd like but frankly the flame he's doing is rather weak and pointless considering the background evidence he's chosen to post. Using a D Mustang driver with the saying KWITCHER*****IN to flame D Mustang drivers in AH about their *****in. Rather amusing if you ask me.
Lighten up, Francis.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Basically Cobra412, I wanted the 51 drivers to see it, hence the thread title.
I've spent a lot of time in the last year researching the 506th FG and thier Iwo Mustangs. That photo kept popping into my head each time I'd see one of the threads where a guy was complaining about not having his D Model Mustang.
I thought maybe, just maybe, they'd find the humor in it.
Clearly that wasn't the case :)
Dan/Slack
Dan, just out of curiousity, was the 51 named "My Achin <3
letter word for donkey>" also with the 506th? I have that Ethell
shot of it somewhere, but can't remember exactly where.
After the marathon flights covering the B-29s, I can easily
sympathize with the pilot's feelings ;)
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Rino I'll learned to lighten up once this community learns to respect and treat everyone in here like a human being. If you like to flame too then go play with the junior high folks.
The belittling that is done on a consistent bases by our community is pathetic. If anything runs folks off more from AH it's the abuse that is given out on a daily basis in verbal and written form by our community.
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Originally posted by Rino
Dan, just out of curiousity, was the 51 named "My Achin <3
letter word for donkey>" also with the 506th? I have that Ethell
shot of it somewhere, but can't remember exactly where.
After the marathon flights covering the B-29s, I can easily
sympathize with the pilot's feelings ;)
Nah, that was a 21st Fighter Group 51 based on Iwo. They were there before the 506th and probably were achin a lot more :)
Dan/Slack
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I though a little humor might help. Clearly it didn't work for some :)
Dan/Slack
Even I got the joke Dan:)
Auger with Style. It's our way.
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Originally posted by Cobra412
Rino I'll learned to lighten up once this community learns to respect and treat everyone in here like a human being. If you like to flame too then go play with the junior high folks.
The belittling that is done on a consistent bases by our community is pathetic. If anything runs folks off more from AH it's the abuse that is given out on a daily basis in verbal and written form by our community.
Maybe if people didn't take things so personally, they'd be able
to see the humor in threads like these. Believe it or not, ENY is
not a personal assault on you..really.
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Why CANT the a6mb go as fast as the P51!!?? ARGGGG everytime i get behind them thwy just go really fast through!! I never shoot them all the times! I'm mad.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa............... wha.
:)
Ok NOOooW this thread lost it's humor. :p
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Paul is a perfect example of the immature brats we have here. Fits the perfect profile of a teenager coming to the real world.
Rino it goes way beyond this thread. And it's not me personnally it's what I see on the side of how folks get treated.
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But no... he never flames... he just calls people immature brats.
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Man, I have been away for a few weeks... the D pony pilots are whining? Can't I just switch sides if the eny thing is in effect?
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Oh no, can't do that.
Taboo, verboten, no way!
You'd be accused of spying.
Our squad is historical and only flies the
You wouldn't be flying with your friends.
You wouldn't be flying with your squad mates.
You wouldn't have a numbers advantage.
You'd be stuck in that country for six hours and what if the numbers went the other way? You'd still have to fly a less powerful plane. ARGHHH!
Nope, no way...can't be done...we're gonna have to think of something more complicated to keep the numbers even.
Hope I didn't miss any excuses.
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Originally posted by GScholz
...the Lala dweebs still got the La-5FN when the -7 is unavailable. Almost as über and still catches a Pony on the deck.
under the right circumstances, a zeke will catch a p-51 on the deck, but...
Originally posted by whels
MIL:
TEMPEST 372
LA-7 358
F4U-4 358
TYPHOON 355
YAK9-U 355
P-51D 354
F4U-1 350
P-51B 347
190D-9 346
F4U-1D 343
F4U-1C 342
109G-10 337
LA-5 336
P-38L 333
P-47D-11 333
SPIT-14 332
TA-152 332
P-47D-25 329
P-47D-30 329
190A-8 327
YAK9-T 327
190F-8 326
190A-5 326
MOSQ 325
C205 321
109G-2 320
F6F-5 320
109G-6 317
N1K2 313
109F-4 310
SPIT IX 310
C202 307
KI-61 305
110-G2 305
SEAFIRE 293
SPIT V 293
110-4b 290
FM2 290
A6M5 288
F4F 278
P40B 275
A6M2 275
P40E 276
HURR IIC 262
HURR IID 253
HURR I 253
WEP:
TEMPEST 386
LA-7 380
F4U-4 378
190D-9 375
TYPHOON 370
P-51D 367
109G-10 366
TA-152 361
SPIT-14 358
F4U-1 358
P-51B 358
F4U-1D 357
F4U-1C 356
LA-5 356
YAK9-U 355
190A-8 349
190F-8 349
P-38L 344
P-47D-11 344
P-47D-25 340
P-47D-30 340
109G-2 340
190A-5 339
MOSQ 338
YAK9-T 336
109G-6 336
109F-4 332
C205 331
F6F-5 330
N1K2 324
SPIT IX 319
110-G2 316
C202 315
KI-61 313
SEAFIRE 302
SPIT V 302
110-4B 300
FM2 297
P40E 297
109E-4 292
SPIT I 291
A6M5 288
F4F 275 no wep
A6M2 275 NO WEP
P40B 275
HURR IIC 273
HURR IID 265
HURR I 261
whels
The La5 is by no means slow, but heck the corsairs are faster on the deck.
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Steve yeah you can change. But the sides seem to change quite often. So if you change and the sides go lopsided again you'll be stuck due to the time limit. I'm just flying a Jug or Warhawk when I can't fly the D.
And Paul if the shoe fits then wear it. Your the one who came with nothing more to add than a flame.
And Blooz as I've stated before the whines about numbers are what caused this set of whining by some folks. So in the end who's fault is it really? Maybe the countries who were so bull headed not to unite and go after the larger country? No couldn't be them now could it. Guess team work overall as a country are lacking in that department. Considering had Bish and Knights joined forces they could easily outnumber the Rooks. Instead we need to have a fair and even fight because people can't fathom using team work to take down the larger country.
I find it amusing considering I was a Bish for a year under these circumstances and never complained about the numbers. My leaving the Bish was entirely due to the consistent bashing from countrymen on their own folks. I even switched to Knights and watched as folks who normally wouldn't be a Knight get bashed and called spies because they were playing how HT wanted them to.
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If they are going to enforce the eny thing, they need to make it so you can switch sides more frequently. VERY stupid rule otherwise.
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This was a nice thread til someone threw a hissy fit.
did you make that profile guppy? nice job.
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A flame? Are you serious? I was just trying to shine some light on this dark thread and I did it by making fun of myself. I don't know how that would ever be considered a flame... Unless it's now inappropriate to make fun of yourself.
Your so caught up in thinking that everyone here has a flame thrower... relax. Take some yoga classes, breath the fresh air. Be one, with nature....
huuummmmmmmm..... :cool:
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Originally posted by Furball
This was a nice thread til someone threw a hissy fit.
did you make that profile guppy? nice job.
Yep on the profile. Doing them of the 506th Mustangs for the guys in the 506th FG Association. Some of the vets have seen them and like em. Feels kinda nice to do something for them.
The guy who organizes the 506th stuff had his uncle killed over Japan while flying with the 506th.
Three profiles of 506th Mustangs. Top is 457th FS (My favorite Mustang profile). Next is a 458th FS Mustang and bottom is a 462nd FS Mustang.
Dan/Slack
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