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Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Ripsnort on January 08, 2001, 11:42:00 AM
HT was online yesterday and said the only thing they are currently looking into in changes of the radar are the possibility of changing radar bar sectors so that N.O.E. a/c would not show up on bar radar.

It's not completely eliminating dot dar, nor sector dar, but its also a conservative approach to the alternative of making too drastic of change and losing customers...

What do you think?  A step in the right direction?

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Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Saintaw on January 08, 2001, 11:46:00 AM
Definately ! I do a lot of NOE flying...bring it on !

Saw
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Ripsnort on January 08, 2001, 11:49:00 AM
I think so too, Saw, and it will also help prevent 'Goon Hunting' that is currently going on, thus inspire goon drivers to start flying goons again!
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Wanker on January 08, 2001, 11:53:00 AM
Ya, I think it's definately a step(albeit a small one) in the right direction.

Hopefully this will promote more "behind enemy lines" type of attack missions, where a large attacking force could sneak into the vast enemy hinterland and grab a base without the enemy knowing about the raid as soon as it takes off.
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Westy on January 08, 2001, 11:53:00 AM
YES

-Westy

*might cause a rename from Aces High to Aces Low though as everyone tries to sneak thier raids in under the radar  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Fury on January 08, 2001, 12:14:00 PM
Yes
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: lasse on January 08, 2001, 12:17:00 PM
N.O.E. a\c, what is that, does it stand for ?

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Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Zigrat on January 08, 2001, 12:17:00 PM
yes

man mabye hitech is finally getting his senses after we squeaked about NOE bars 6 months ago! Then I see the 1c is gonna be perked and all these other things added! I just may have to re-subscribe  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

yee ghads at this rate soon ill be a cheerleader too lol

Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: mason22 on January 08, 2001, 12:19:00 PM
sounds like we'll be getting in some more "under dar" raids!! woohoo   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) :d
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Ripsnort on January 08, 2001, 12:26:00 PM
N.O.E.=Nap Of Earth
A/C=Aircraft

Low level flying out of radar detection.
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Tac on January 08, 2001, 12:43:00 PM
I believe that if the dot dar was updated every 4 seconds it would make things a lot better.

No more cloud fights gone wrong because the dweeb was staring at the gps dot radar to get my bearing  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

NOE not showing on the sector bars is GREAT! Especially with carrier forces!
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: AKDejaVu on January 08, 2001, 12:50:00 PM
 
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What do you think? A step in the right direction?

Definately.  I actually believe that all the dar mods should really only pertain to the sector bars.

All that would be left would be to remove sector bars over enemy territory unless a friendly is in that sector.

AKDejaVu
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: popeye on January 08, 2001, 12:54:00 PM
Yes.  Hope that will mean no sector bars for vehicles and boats, too.
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Ripsnort on January 08, 2001, 01:40:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by popeye:
Yes.  Hope that will mean no sector bars for vehicles and boats, too.

Good point, I hadn't thought of that, wonder if HTC has given this thought?

Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Dos Equis on January 08, 2001, 02:02:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Good point, I hadn't thought of that, wonder if HTC has given this thought?



Didn't it work this way in Warbirds, at least at one time?

I remember a Stuka raid in WB that was based on not showing up on dar and flying along the ground. It worked until we were in visual range, and then we got pounded.

It works great. As for the MA, most players ignore attacks incoming on radar anyhow, so I don't know how much it would change the MA.

X2
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Ripsnort on January 08, 2001, 02:06:00 PM
I disagree X2, put up about 10 bombers on a HQ raid, watch how 'ignored' you are... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: buhdman on January 08, 2001, 02:15:00 PM
At the risk of sounding repetitive:

DOIT DOIT DOIT DOIT DOIT DOIT DOIT DOIT ...

Buhdman, out
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Sunchaser on January 08, 2001, 03:35:00 PM
Good idea.

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Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: LJK Raubvogel on January 08, 2001, 04:28:00 PM
Great idea! Would be even better if you could "surprise" the ack at a field for 1 pass.

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Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Sox on January 08, 2001, 04:47:00 PM
Sounds good to me.  All for it! Woohoo and all that stuff.. Jumping up and down pom poms in hand and such.
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: OTTO 111th Fighter Group on January 08, 2001, 04:50:00 PM
The inflight radar, in all it's forms, is the  worst feature of AH  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)

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Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: snafu on January 08, 2001, 04:56:00 PM
Hi All,
 Really glad to see this one finally becoming a reality. Getting the 1st pass in on the acks without them reacting is also a good one (Although I think if you are on dar (I.E. not NOE the acks should be waiting for ya). Mind you 1 problem I can think of is assuming vehicles won't show on dar (Although if they climb up hills higher than 500ft I think they should) in theory a panzer, ostie etc could pound a field until it's dead and then bring the goon in without defending forces even knowing it was under attack. I think the dar should be activated as soon as the 1st structure goes down.

Just my opinion

TTFN
snafu
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: SKurj on January 08, 2001, 05:38:00 PM
So long as vehicles still show as sector bars.  In reality a base would not be deserted, and friendly forces notified.  Until we have an alarm system for the bases we need sector bars for vehicles.

But I'm all for no sector bars for NOE flying.

AKskurj
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: rob53 on January 08, 2001, 06:42:00 PM
Good Idea  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

It will definately add another aspect to tactical/strategic missions, whether its a loner run or a massive surprise assault.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Rob53
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Sundog on January 09, 2001, 01:05:00 AM
YES!
Man, NOE the earth B-26 raids again (Those who have never tried that, get someone to do to fly the B-26 and then join them and go sit in the nose...what a view!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) ) Hopefully we will be getting a Mossie soon for those high speed NOE Buff missions
( Mossie = Perk Bomber?)

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Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Pepino on January 09, 2001, 02:00:00 AM
If Htc. implement this, I would like the CV commander to have the possibility to disable Carrier for operations. This way he could prevent a single pilot popping up out in the middle of the ocena can ruin a surprise TG attack.

Pepe
Title: Answer to the Radar situation?
Post by: Nash on January 09, 2001, 02:16:00 AM
Hehe Pepino, yer high  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Give the commander an option to hit a button and ZAAAP the CV disapears?

What's so suprising about a plane comin' across a fleet undetected? I'm sure there were plenty of ruined 'suprise TG attacks'.

The discussed radar implementation would be great.