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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: FUNKED1 on September 14, 2004, 02:49:10 AM
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Holy crap, chucking chairs at women, not cool. Hope they prosecute him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1881073
From a guy who was at the game:
Sorry I'm a little late on the altercation conversation, but I just got back from the game. On my way out of the stadium I spoke to a few fans who were sitting very near the incident - close enough that one was knocked over in the scramble. They said that it started when the male fan yelled at Brocail "So who's going to blow it tonight?" Brocail yelled back "Your mom" and it went back and forth like with Brocail getting progressively more angry, and then all the other fans started yelling and and that's when the rest of the Rangers got involved. Their impression - and granted they were A's fans - was that the Rangers just completely overreacted.
From my vantage point it looked like Brocail was trying to climb into the stands as the Rangers rushed over there, but I'm not positive.
Also, as I write this Robert Baun is playing an interview with the head of stadium operations. He said that no fans threw anything or even said anything that could get a fan kicked out. He said "the Rangers went after our fans" and that Francisco threw the chair and broke the woman's nose. He also said Oakland police are investigating the situation.
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Holy Cow!
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Probably some typical Oakland fans going way over the line to provoke an incident.
:rolleyes:
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I go to Nascar races for the crashes.
Baseball needs some excitement. If the woman was innocent, I am sorry her nose was broken. But if she was yelling stuff, she got what she deserved.
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Originally posted by sling322
Probably some typical Oakland fans going way over the line to provoke an incident.
:rolleyes:
Wrong sport, hoss.
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Heheh, it's Bush's fault, don't ya know?:p
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Originally posted by Sandman
Wrong sport, hoss.
Same town though.....cant change a tiger's stripes.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Wrong sport, hoss.
Oh... so baseball is played on the good side of Oakland?
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Different sport, different environment. It's been a few years, but there's a diffent atmosphere at an A's game than a Raider game.
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It's the California way, why blame the fans? Go hug an owl.
Karaya
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The only way this crap will stop.
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- Texas reliever Frank Francisco was arrested Tuesday morning on a charge of aggravated battery after he threw a chair into the right-field box seats and hit two spectators in the head during Monday night's loss to the Oakland Athletics.
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Don't confuse A's fans with raider fans..... Trust me.. completely different.....
WORST THING TO SAY AT A RAIDER GAME..
Why yes I voted for the three strikes ammendment...
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:rolleyes: Its still Oakland......
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Originally posted by sling322
:rolleyes: Its still Oakland......
Ever been to an A's game? A Raider game?
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Anybody catch Dave Chappelle's description of the Bay area on his Showtime special?
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Originally posted by Sandman
Ever been to an A's game? A Raider game?
No...but I dont need to stick my head up a bull's bellybutton to tell you what a steak looks like either.
:D
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Real classy Sling! Way to take the moral high ground!
(http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/09-04/0914woman.jpg)
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
The only way this crap will stop.
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- Texas reliever Frank Francisco was arrested Tuesday morning on a charge of aggravated battery after he threw a chair into the right-field box seats and hit two spectators in the head during Monday night's loss to the Oakland Athletics.
WTG Oakland PD.
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Originally posted by rpm371
Anybody catch Dave Chappelle's description of the Bay area on his Showtime special?
Yeah, he said the reason SF was so great was that they moved all the "n*****s" (his term) over to Oakland. Again, nice job taking the moral high ground.
And of course the only "person of color" involved was the one beaning women in the head with bullpen chairs...
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Circumventing the language filter
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Real classy Sling! Way to take the moral high ground!
Whatever....I am sure that Francisco just heaved a chair into the stands for no reason....unprovoked. Buying a ticket to a baseball game gives you the right to come into the stadium. It doesnt give you the right to insult players, taunt, etc. Maybe she should have paid closer attention to her surroundings...especially since she was sitting next to a "typical Oakland fan."
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What is a "typical Oakland fan"?
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It doesnt give you the right to insult players, taunt, etc.
Yeah, it does. Welcome to the majors, meat.
I've been to MLB games in 13 different stadiums. Every stadium has hecklers. I've sat in the bullpen area in Oakland. It's nothing compared to the Wrigley bleachers or the old Candlestick bleachers. A professional will ignore heckling, or even better, laugh it off and turn the crowd in his favor.
Regardless, it looks like justice will prevail. Francisco has already been arrested, and certainly will be suspended. He and his employers will undoubtedly end up settling with that lady for an amount large enough to remind them that professional behavior is important. Go A's.
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
HUGE DIFFERNECE in Raider Fan mentality compared to As...
It all depends on where you sit. The people in the black hole are crazy. Elsewhere, it's pretty typical NFL fans you will find in any city. It costs a lot more to get into an NFL game than MLB.
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I went to a fight the other night and a baseball game broke out.
Ba-da-bump
(apologies to Rodney Dangerfield for stealing his hockey joke)
I remember the time in Chicago a crazed shirtless fan and his son attacked the first base coach for the Kansas City Royals.
I have a feeling the Oakland fans don't exactly have clean hands in this case.
Anybody remember the time Domi was attacked in the penalty box by a Flyers fan? Don't forget your water bottle!
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Couldn't have been a roid rage incident seeing as less than the stated mandatory test percentage of players tested positive for "banned" substances. I just find it funny that players like Giambi and Bonds haven't been posting the huge numbers and have been "injured" more this season than before their scandal.
BUT that is off the subject here. This ******* needs to be banned from the league period. He simply needs jail time plus whatever his salary would be for this year needs to go to the injured woman. You start taking the dollars away then sooner rather than later these over payed and under played P***Y'S will learn that they aren't as valuable as their precious players union thinks they are.
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what the hell skuzzy?..i dotn remembr saying anything bad....Circumventing?..isnt doing **** < circumventing? Or you cant say lmfao??..I dont get it..can i see what i said tht was bad?
I said..
As' fans play tennis
Raider Fans plays dice
If it was a a Raider game..the crowd woudl of shanked the opposing team
Remebr when they showed the footage of
Raider fan shanking another fat white guy? classic
Imagine a nme team throwing a chair intothe Black hole...llolol..tht woudl be funny
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Originally posted by Sandman
What is a "typical Oakland fan"?
Shhh...that was bait for the hook for old Funkypants.
:D
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am sure that Francisco just heaved a chair into the stands for no reason....unprovoked.
Umm ok, why don't you tell us all what words would have legitimately provoked a man to throw a chair into the stands.
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SF Chronicle has some pics...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/09/14/pitcher14.TMP
Where's a video?
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Originally posted by Steve
Umm ok, why don't you tell us all what words would have legitimately provoked a man to throw a chair into the stands.
Ummm...poopyhead. Or even snot burglar would have done it for me.
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Nothing said justifies throwing a chair into the crowd, Francisco was way outta line and deserves whatever punishment is levied.
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lolol..
so do you disagree ..or agree when Gerlado"Capones Vault" Riveriera got his nose brokn by the AB's?..lolol
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It's just going to get worse. He'll be heckled again and again.
Time for the boy to grow some skin.
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That women hit the jackpot.
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In this case the jackpot hit her is more accurate
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where can I buy tickets to a boring arse baseball game so i can get a "don't have to work another day in my life" chair thrown into my face??? which seat is that?
the player will get his wrist slapped just like any other millionaire sport celeb / hollyweird type does now for anything wrong they do ...
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Originally posted by Pooh21
In this case the jackpot hit her is more accurate
:aok :rofl
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the player will get his wrist slapped just like any other millionaire sport celeb / hollyweird type does now for anything wrong they do ...
You're thinking criminal....
Think civil law suit.
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I've never been to a Raiders game.
I've been to tons of Oakland games, and to many other parks.
In fact, one of the reasons I'm an Oakland fan is that growing up, my parents took me to San Francisco games. At the age of seven, I had a fan pour beer down my back.
The baseball crowd at Oakland is, in my experience, relatively well behaved. It's nowhere near as bad as San Francisco, and there's no rivalry matchup on the Oakland schedule that generates the press, emotions and fan ugliness of a Giants-Dodgers game.
At a baseball game, like at other major sporting events, that line between the field and the stands is sacred. Individual fans who throw objects on the field are ejected; those who jump on the field are jailed; when whole groups of fans do it, it causes a stink for at least a week, during which sports fans are forced to endure the penalty of sports columnists wasting ink on moralizing rather than entertaining them with sugar-coated stories of sports stars going on drinking binges and breaking 120 on the interstate.
If provoked, a player can climb into the stands and try to fight the heckler. We enjoy that, though it causes us all to suffer: the player suffers bodily injury and suspension, we as fans suffer an interruption to the game and a week of local columnists moralizing about sacred boundaries between the field and the stands.
But throwing a chair? Come on. And I'm sure the woman "merited it" because she's an A's fan, or her husband was Heckling? Or the Rangers came to town looking for a fight? I mean, Oakland laid on 10 extra cops to protect.
Watching the replay, it was a total cheap shot right out of the WWF. The Rangers clear the bench and get into it with the heckler. The cop comes over, backs away the rangers, then turns to deal with the disturbance. When his back his turned Francisco chucks the chair into the stands.
Yeah, Oakland fans deserved it. Collective guilt is a wonderful thing.
And sure, big fat out-of-court settlement. Heck, let's see: coach knows his team has a problem dealing with fans in this park; he asks for extra security. He locks down the locker room for 90 minutes before the game. I wonder what he said to the players during that period? Could it have anything to do with the fact that the entire Texas roster cleared the benches to confront a single heckler? The standard procedure for dealing with an unruly fan is to eject the person. If the stadium doesn't do it on its own policy terms, the visiting team can make a single phonecall and ask that the fan be ejected. It's not that hard. Why then did they clear the benches instead?
I think we better subpoena every Texas player that was there, along with half the stadium staff and the dozen or so cops within hearing distance of the Texas dugout and bullpen.
They'll settle, and they'll pay. And the heckler will transfer to the Blackhawk fire department..
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Typical Texas Player.
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Nice generalization MT.
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Originally posted by JimBear
Nice generalization MT.
Just trying to jump in the pool with everyone else. (it's called irony. sometimes when you least expect it, it will make a point at ya.)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Typical Texas Player.
Looks like it. (http://www.makethecall.org/texas_stats.htm)
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DA WHISTLE GO WOOOOOOO!!!
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Looks like it. (http://www.makethecall.org/texas_stats.htm)
:aok :D
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Looks like it. (http://www.makethecall.org/texas_stats.htm)
74% of all Texans have experienced domestic violence? Come on, they probably asked people if they were ever spanked as a child and counted that as domestic violence. Yeah, yeah, I know, some of you left wing wackos probably see it the same way.
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not that I think Francisco should be let off, these *are* the fans who didn't hesitate to chuck crap on the field last week during the sox game when the ump blew a call. (hitting Kotsay in the process)
In the case of this woman, getting tagged in the face is that absolute best thing to happen to her. The settlement she'll get will leave her set for life
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Been to Over a 100 A's games, and around 15 or 20 Raiders Games, though same stadium,same town, much more relaxed crowd at an A's game.
Attended a Monday Night game a few years back..
Raiders vs. Broncos, saw a 10 year old kid waring an Elway jersey get beer poured all over him by six Raider fans, that was bad
Happy to say, Pops was a Niner fan and bought season tix back in '74, Go Niners-Go Giants
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Originally posted by Cooley
Attended a Monday Night game a few years back..
Raiders vs. Broncos, saw a 10 year old kid waring an Elway jersey get beer poured all over him by six Raider fans, that was bad
Orange and blue aren't good colors to wear in Oakland. They get a little testy with certain division rivalries.
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It doesnt even matter if you dont ware enemy colors there,
they have a way of sensing it if your not a Diehard card-carrying member of the Raider Nation