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Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: lazs2 on September 14, 2004, 05:35:14 PM
yep... signed hr 218/s.253 that allows off duty and retired officers CCW reciprosity throughout the nation..

Thousand so trained and armed cops are being put on the streets at a net cost to us, the taxpayer of.....

zero.. zilch... nada.

meanwhile... kerrie and fienstein cry and whine about the lapse of the useless assault weapons and hi capacity magazine ban....  

who ya votin for again RPM?

lazs
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: B17Skull12 on September 14, 2004, 05:42:05 PM
put the ban back on assault weapon for crying out loud!!!1

it basicly just made grenade launchers legal.:confused:

And yet we have an enemy who has been exploiting the same weapon so effectivly in Iraq?:confused:

ohh well we want another terrorist attack we will keep it in place.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 14, 2004, 05:46:59 PM
B17Skull12
 What the heck are you talking about?
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: Rino on September 14, 2004, 05:48:45 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
B17Skull12
 What the heck are you talking about?


     He hasn't a clue, trust me.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: B17Skull12 on September 14, 2004, 05:49:01 PM
the assault rifle ban was lifted mon.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 14, 2004, 05:53:45 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
the assault rifle ban was lifted mon.


and it has nothing to do with grenade launchers...   here is your sign.:p
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: B17Skull12 on September 14, 2004, 05:55:30 PM
i just read the article on it.

grenade launchers are included as in the ones that can be attached to an M16.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 14, 2004, 06:02:04 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
i just read the article on it.

grenade launchers are included as in the ones that can be attached to an M16.


It did not outlaw "grenade launchers" .  For that matter, the civilian grenade launchers are of a different caliber than military ones and only have flares and smoke as options.  

Like I said...  Here is your sign...
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: ra on September 14, 2004, 06:13:43 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
i just read the article on it.

grenade launchers are included as in the ones that can be attached to an M16.

Democrat alert!
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: GreenCloud on September 14, 2004, 06:15:12 PM
dotn get mad at him a great percentage of peopl e have no idea about guns or gun laws..its a shame but true..

b17skull..we got missle launchers now too!..terrorist are going to buy m-60s at any gun show now!!..the HORRAH!



http://www.nranews.com
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: Raptor on September 14, 2004, 06:21:53 PM
alot of gun laws only really effect those that follow the laws. I mean if someone is going to use a gun in an illegal manner (murder and such), its not like hes all that worried about legally getting a gun. Black market or something
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: United on September 14, 2004, 06:27:08 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor01
alot of gun laws only really effect those that follow the laws. I mean if someone is going to use a gun in an illegal manner (murder and such), its not like hes all that worried about legally getting a gun. Black market or something

Yes, but there are more who abide by the laws than not.  And really, the assault weapons ban did not really accomplish much other than banning weapons that "looked" like they fit into that category.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: Dago on September 14, 2004, 06:33:02 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
put the ban back on assault weapon for crying out loud!!!1

it basicly just made grenade launchers legal.:confused:  


Will you people never learn???

Grenade Launchers are legal, been legal, as are cannons and mortars.  Look on the ATF website about Class 3 weapons and "Destructive Devices"/

Go ahead B17, dont let ignorance influence your posts.

The freaking ambush rifle law basically outlawed bayonet mounts and flash suppressors, not much else.  And there are hundreds of thousands of the weapons and magazines already on the street.  

sheesh


dago
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: lasersailor184 on September 14, 2004, 06:53:36 PM
The ban banned rifle grenade attachments on the rifles.  Not grenade launchers.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: demaw1 on September 14, 2004, 07:25:41 PM
GREENCLOUD.....

 You are wrong they wont buy them,they will sell them as they are the only ones who have them lol he he he.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: Gunslinger on September 14, 2004, 07:41:33 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
put the ban back on assault weapon for crying out loud!!!1

it basicly just made grenade launchers legal.:confused:

And yet we have an enemy who has been exploiting the same weapon so effectivly in Iraq?:confused:

ohh well we want another terrorist attack we will keep it in place.


do any of you see how this has nothing to do with laz's post.

Laz is referring (in a sarcastic mannor) to a law that allows MORE law enforcment on the streets.

Even if  retired/off duty they are an armed extra set of eyeballs looking out for people doing wrong.  

Sounds good to me.

PS.  The attachment wich the ban is talking about (the M-203) is not being used against our troops in Iraq but actually on the terrorists themselves.

Most terrorists are using RPGs.  Nothing like an M203
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: lazs2 on September 15, 2004, 08:50:05 AM
Do you feel less safe now that Bush has signed this law allowing countless thousands of hanguns to be carried around concealled?  

In a goup of hundreds on the street does it make you less or more comfortable that more of them will be armed?

The Bush law was a do something law... the assault weapon one was a do nothing but creeping incrementalism one.  A pretend law for pretend people... A law for the fung sway and aura people.   A veritable vegetarian yoga of a law.

lazs
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: AKIron on September 15, 2004, 09:40:54 AM
Certainly I know how a wedge works and do believe there is a real threat to our Constitutional rights. However, a meaningless concession (as perhaps the ban was) might be the grease to silence the squeaky wheel.


Back on topic. The real victory will be when every state allows it's citizens the same right to protection as these retired policemen.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: CavemanJ on September 15, 2004, 10:11:35 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Do you feel less safe now that Bush has signed this law allowing countless thousands of hanguns to be carried around concealled?  

In a goup of hundreds on the street does it make you less or more comfortable that more of them will be armed?

The Bush law was a do something law... the assault weapon one was a do nothing but creeping incrementalism one.  A pretend law for pretend people... A law for the fung sway and aura people.   A veritable vegetarian yoga of a law.

lazs


Makes me more comfortable that there's going to be more armed lawful types walking around.  Needs to be alot more if ya ask me.. time to go get my permit renewed =)
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: lazs2 on September 15, 2004, 11:23:25 AM
iron... you won't silence the anti gun nuts.  if you allow them to demonize one type of firearm they will just move on to the next.


as for grenade launchers.... isn't it the grenade and not the launcher that does the damage?   Did the experation of the so called "assault weapon" ban make owning grenades legal now?

lazs
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: xrtoronto on September 15, 2004, 11:37:54 AM
americans killing americans?

Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: anonymous on September 15, 2004, 11:52:12 AM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
americans killing americans?



well at least youve shown your true colors.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2004, 11:55:04 AM
From b17skulls liberal part of the theater:  *crickets*.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: AKIron on September 15, 2004, 12:05:36 PM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
americans killing americans?



When we're all dead where will you go for health care?
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: Bodhi on September 15, 2004, 12:42:49 PM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
americans killing americans?



uncalled for.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: Bodhi on September 15, 2004, 12:49:24 PM
In a nutshell, the assault weapons ban did nothing to stop assault weapons from being used.  (They are used in less than .02 % of crime so far).

What it said was that:

No weapons can be produced after 1986 that have a combo of three of the following things:

A pistol grip.

A flash Surpressor. (horribly evil)

High Capacity Mag usage.

Bayonet Lug. (if I have the option of bullets....)

Collapsible Stock.

Rifle Grenade Launcher. (where is someone gonna get teh grenade????)

So basically you drop the flash surpressor / rifle grenade launcher, bayonet lug, and the collapsible stock, you have the same old semi-auto weapon...

DOH?! kinda stupid in my eyes!  Morons had no clue when they wrote that law, so, you get a law that made no sense.

All the law did was drive up the price on weapons made prior to the ban....
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: lazs2 on September 15, 2004, 01:39:15 PM
sorry xtoronto..... much as you would like to see dead Americans.... I don't think any will be killed by a bayonet lug or a pistol grip or flash suppressor or even a grenade launcher lug..

nor..... do I think allowing police to carry concealled will cause a mass slaughter of Americans...  sorry xtoronto... you will have to do it yourself if you want it done.

lazs
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 15, 2004, 01:48:07 PM
he don't have the nads so no need to worry.
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: GreenCloud on September 15, 2004, 02:04:06 PM
its about time to make th esecond USA pay taxes to us now..

After the "stange Brew "days..canada is liek a red headed step child....wheres my whipn stik?
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: lazs2 on September 15, 2004, 02:31:18 PM
I was allmost certain he didn't have the nads but now I am certain he doesn't have the brains.

lazs
Title: Bush puts thousands of more handguns on the street...
Post by: Torque on September 15, 2004, 02:48:04 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
sorry xtoronto..... much as you would like to see dead Americans.... I don't think any will be killed by a bayonet lug or a pistol grip or flash suppressor or even a grenade launcher lug..

nor..... do I think allowing police to carry concealled will cause a mass slaughter of Americans...  sorry xtoronto... you will have to do it yourself if you want it done.

lazs
:rofl :rofl :rofl

You must be in your Utopia now, eh Laz?