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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on September 14, 2004, 10:33:43 PM
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This is the John Kerry I have come to know.
Thiis is all written by myself from memory. Go ahead and tell me if I am incorrect about any of this:
1. Likes rap music. He listens to it "because it's real and from the street"
2. Says that "earth day is not something you practice one day a year, it's a lifestyle" while owning 5 mansions, 2 private jets and a large yatch.
3. Tells the press at the Grand Canyon "these dimmed vistas" are a result of careless environmental policies.....under 70 mile visibility skys
4. Says he likes hunting deer "rolling around on his belly" with a double-barreled shotgun
5. Wants to give illegal aliens free college.
6. Says he was in Cambodia on Christmas day. Later back-peddals after it was pointed out there was no US presense, then said it was a "secrete" mission....that's why there's no record of it. A crewmember on his boat says they never were in Cambodia.
7. Does not own an SUV, his "family does"
8. Admitted he was present at a meeting ( only after the FBI produced records) in which a group voted weather or not to ASSINATE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. He says he voted "no" and then left the group....warning nobody.
9. Displays medals on his website, which have never in US history been issued.
10. Says he despised the US actions in Vietnam, then tells us he is a war hero and patriot for going to Vietnam.
I could go on. The guy is a joke.
The funny part for me, after Bush wins BIG, will be the stunned reaction from the idiots who actually think Kerry had a chance.
How many people here think Kerry is a great man and will be a good president? What does Kerry stand for again?
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I think this post is biased.
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flame bait
not that I don't agree with you.
but still flame bait.
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It's not flame bait. I honestly was listing the things I am repulsed by in Kerry, based on memory.
I wonder what kind of person could possibly ignor Kerry's outrageous lies and behavior and consider him a great leader somehow.
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Yes
That’s the man the democrats have betrayed the Nation with..
As bad as Bush is, this man is not the solution; he is the archetype for "sleazy politician".
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
he is the archetype for "sleazy politician".
I thought that was Cheney. :aok
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I think that post was biased.
At least Nuke makes no pretense though.
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Originally posted by Sandman
I thought that was Cheney. :aok
off topic :)
Seriously Sandman..... can you argue against anything I listed as not being true about Kerry?
I find it VERY funny that he testified that he commited war crimes in Vietnam, but now says he was a patriot wishes to betrayed as a Vietnam war hero. Which is it?
He is so full of holes.
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Originally posted by NUKE
off topic :)
Seriously Sandman..... can you argue against anything I listed as not being true about Kerry?
Naw... I'll just argue with all the negatives about Bush. ;)
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Originally posted by Sandman
Naw... I'll just argue with all the negatives about Bush. ;)
at least your honest Sandman. :D
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This election is disgusting....Must everyone involved get dragged through the mud? Where do the canidates stand on the issues? No one knows because they are too busy trying to do damage control...It makes me sick...If I didn't have a commitment to my current job I truly think I would leave the USA..As much as I love this country..I can't sit here and watch it go down in flames over internal BS...That is why we are vunerable to terrorists...too much he-said-she-said going on amongst ourselves that we can't see past our own boarders. Every country has it's time of power and then a big downfall into obscurity...The last few elections have proved we are close to our own collapse..except this time "we the people" are the conquering army...not a horde of Barbarians. America is sick and there is no cure. Alot of the problem lies with people like those on this BBS who drag up anything just to defame someones character even when it really has nothing to do with someones job performance. May God (or whoever each individual here believes in) Have mercy on our souls.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
at least your honest Sandman. :D
I've achieved balance. In another thread tonight, I am a liar. ;)
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dude astac..go hang yourself already..dont you get in trouble for reposting your whine all over?..lolol you are very optomistic..america is sik and has no cure?..lololol
I dont trust either..They have to have 2 Johns to hold dall that crap there sprayn
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hahahah...muck is making fun of someone for whining
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The Bush we know and love
. Social Security Surplus
BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from raiding the Social Security surplus." [President Bush, 3/3/01]
...BUSH SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4 trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes." [The New York Times, 2/6/02]
2. Patient's Right to Sue
GOVERNOR BUSH VETOES PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "Despite his campaign rhetoric in favor of a patients' bill of rights, Bush fought such a bill tooth and nail as Texas governor, vetoing a bill coauthored by Republican state Rep. John Smithee in 1995. He... constantly opposed a patient's right to sue an HMO over coverage denied that resulted in adverse health effects." [Salon, 2/7/01]
...CANDIDATE BUSH PRAISES TEXAS PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "We're one of the first states that said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage... It's time for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people. And I think this is right for the people. You know, I support a national patients' bill of rights, Mr. Vice President. And I want all people covered. I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've got in Texas." [Governor Bush, 10/17/00]
...PRESIDENT BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION ARGUES AGAINST RIGHT TO SUE "To let two Texas consumers, Juan Davila and Ruby R. Calad, sue their managed-care companies for wrongful denials of medical benefits ‘would be to completely undermine' federal law regulating employee benefits, Assistant Solicitor General James A. Feldman said at oral argument March 23. Moreover, the administration's brief attacked the policy rationale for Texas's law, which is similar to statutes on the books in nine other states." [Washington Post, 4/5/04]
3. Tobacco Buyout
BUSH SUPPORTS CURRENT TOBACCO FARMERS' QUOTA SYSTEM... "They've got the quota system in place -- the allotment system -- and I don't think that needs to be changed." [President Bush, 5/04]
...BUSH ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL BUYOUT OF TOBACCO QUOTAS "The administration is open to a buyout." [White House spokeswoman Jeanie Mamo, 6/18/04]
4. North Korea
BUSH WILL NOT OFFER NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM... "We developed a bold approach under which, if the North addressed our long-standing concerns, the United States was prepared to take important steps that would have significantly improved the lives of the North Korean people. Now that North Korea's covert nuclear weapons program has come to light, we are unable to pursue this approach." [President's Statement, 11/15/02]
...BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFERS NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM"Well, we will work to take steps to ease their political and economic isolation. So there would be -- what you would see would be some provisional or temporary proposals that would only lead to lasting benefit after North Korea dismantles its nuclear programs. So there would be some provisional or temporary efforts of that nature." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 6/23/04]
5. Abortion
BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question." [The Nation, 6/15/00, quoting the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, 5/78]
...BUSH OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life." [Governor Bush, 10/3/00]
6. OPEC
BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price." [President Bush, 1/26/00]
...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami Herald, 4/1/04]
7. Iraq Funding
BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF 2004... "We do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04" [White House Budget Director Joshua Bolton, 2/2/04]
...BUSH REQUESTS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 "I am requesting that Congress establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming fiscal year to meet all commitments to our troops." [President Bush, Statement by President, 5/5/04]
8. Condoleeza Rice Testimony
BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'... "Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a matter of principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved here. Historically, White House staffers do not testify before legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of preference." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 3/9/04]
...BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: "Today I have informed the Commission on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public testimony." [President Bush, 3/30/04]
9. Science
BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought to have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by what may feel good or what sounds good." [then-Governor George W. Bush, 1/15/00]
...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60 leading scientists—including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts, former federal agency directors and university chairs and presidents—issued a statement calling for regulatory and legislative action to restore scientific integrity to federal policymaking. According to the scientists, the Bush administration has, among other abuses, suppressed and distorted scientific analysis from federal agencies, and taken actions that have undermined the quality of scientific advisory panels." [Union of Concerned Scientists, 2/18/04]
10. Ahmed Chalabi
BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush also met with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving [White House Documents 1/20/04, 11/27/03]
...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE "U.S. soldiers raided the home of America's one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and computers." [Washington Post, 5/20/04]
11. Department of Homeland Security
BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]
12. Weapons of Mass Destruction
BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]
...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]
13. Free Trade
BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]
14. Osama Bin Laden
BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01]
...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him."[President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]
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15. The Environment
BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected], Governor Bush will work to...establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]
...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]
16. WMD Commission
BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]
...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]
17. Creation of the 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]
18. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post, 1/19/04]
...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work." [CNN, 2/4/04]
19. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony
BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR... "President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04]
...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]
20. Gay Marriage
BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]
...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]
21. Nation Building
BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]
...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]
22. Saddam/al Qaeda Link
BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]
...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]
23. U.N. Resolution
BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam." [President Bush 3/6/03]
...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation that had already been written." [Washington Post, 3/18/03]
24. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict
BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area." [President Bush, 04/05/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress toward two states living side by side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm committed to working toward peace in the Middle East." [President Bush, 5/23/03]
25. Campaign Finance
BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free expression." [Washington Post, 3/28/2000]
...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW "[T]his bill improves the current system of financing for Federal campaigns, and therefore I have signed it into law." [President Bush, at the McCain-Feingold signing ceremony, 03/27/02]
26. 527s
Bush opposes restrictions on 527s: "I also have reservations about the constitutionality of the broad ban on issue advertising [in McCain Feingold], which restrains the speech of a wide variety of groups on issues of public import." [President Bush, 3/27/02]
…Bush says 527s bad for system: "I don't think we ought to have 527s. I can't be more plain about it…I think they're bad for the system. That's why I signed the bill, McCain-Feingold." [President Bush, 8/23/04]
27. Medical Records
Bush says medical records must remain private: "I believe that we must protect…the right of every American to have confidence that his or her personal medical records will remain private." [President Bush, 4/12/01]
…Bush says patients' histories are not confidntial: The Justice Department…asserts that patients "no longer possess a reasonable expectation that their histories will remain completely confidential." [BusinessWeek, 4/30/04]
28. Timelines For Dictators
Bush sets timeline for Saddam: "If Iraq does not accept the terms within a week of passage or fails to disclose required information within 30 days, the resolution authorizes 'all necessary means' to force compliance--in other words, a military attack." [LA Times, 10/3/02]
…Bush says he's against timelines: "I don't think you give timelines to dictators." [President Bush, 8/27/04]
29. The Great Lakes
Bush wants to divert great lakes: "Even though experts say 'diverting any water from the Great Lakes region sets a bad precedent' Bush 'said he wants to talk to Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien about piping water to parched states in the west and southwest.'– [AP, 7/19/01]
Bush says he'll never divert Great Lakes: "We've got to use our resources wisely, like water. It starts with keeping the Great Lakes water in the Great Lakes Basin...My position is clear: We're never going to allow diversion of Great Lakes water." [President Bush, 8/16/04]
30. Winning The War On Terror
Bush claims he can win the war on terror: "One of the interesting things people ask me, now that we're asking questions, is, can you ever win the war on terror? Of course, you can." [President Bush, 4/13/04]
…Bush says war on terror is unwinnable: "I don't think you can win [the war on terror]." [President Bush, 8/30/04]
…Bush says he will win the war on terror: "Make no mistake about it, we are winning and we will win [the war on terror]." [President Bush, 8/31/04]
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:D
[size=10]landslide Kerry!![/size]
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Drunky, thats not Muck - its BGB. Same squad, way different typing abilities.
BGB/GreenCloud, If I'm not mistaken, ASTAC = Coolrider - a Navy man (enlisted or officer, don't remember).
He really isn't off in the assessment. Both campaigns are nothing more than smear, very little real issues have been presented, compared, or even argued over by either party. It has boiled down to who can shovel more ****. Anyway you slice it, that just isn't good for our country at all.
-SW
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Silat
you can remove all of those that span pre 9/11 to post 9/11 as anyone with half a brain realizes the world was changed at that point in time ...
it is simple - you do not like Bush - don't vote for him
your problem is, more do not like skerry - LOL
LANDSLIDE BUSH!!!
(http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/photos/cp_bush_george030128.jpg)
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Lies? Bush found any WMD"s lately? Has to be one of the biggest lies ever, especially since it was used to sell the invasion of another country.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by NUKE
I find it VERY funny that he testified that he commited war crimes in Vietnam, but now says he was a patriot wishes to betrayed as a Vietnam war hero. Which is it?
Kerry's own words (http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.wmv)
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Originally posted by Edbert MOL
Kerry's own words (http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.wmv)
He was good back then as well....six, seven, eight, nine?
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Silat, please provide a link to each one of the quotes listed please.
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Originally posted by Drunky
flame bait
not that I don't agree with you.
but still flame bait.
who cares?
Kerry sucks. Thats all that matters here. phlaym bait that.
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just reading though the second bunch of things you wrote silat, I would really like to argue the points but what is the point. I don't type that fast nor have that amount of time to screw around at work.
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Originally posted by Eagler
Silat
you can remove all of those that span pre 9/11 to post 9/11 as anyone with half a brain realizes the world was changed at that point in time ...
it is simple - you do not like Bush - don't vote for him
your problem is, more do not like skerry - LOL
LANDSLIDE BUSH!!!
(http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/photos/cp_bush_george030128.jpg)
Your problem is that its OK to slam kerry but not bush.
Fair and balanced !
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Silat, please provide a link to each one of the quotes listed please.
Bodhi if I had the time to go back and do so I would. But you can google as easy as I. They are true.Some of those quotes have clues about the date and what paper reported it.
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Just a thought Silat, but you might want to call them, "possibly qualified sources", as anything you get from the media may or may not be true.
As of this minute, it is quite possible to find anything you want to support virtually any position you want.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Just a thought Silat, but you might want to call them, "possibly qualified sources", as anything you get from the media may or may not be true.
As of this minute, it is quite possible to find anything you want to support virtually any position you want.
Skuzzy the point of the counter posts is that the righties in here never call for proof of the posts for their positions. The quotes from my posts can be found anywhere. BUsh said them and they are documented.
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I call for a new rule....
WHenever posting a quote, the source must be listed...
and I get to say whether the source is verifiable...
:D
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SILAT...
OFF TOPIC............AND TO LONG.........AND..........AND ..........AND......LOL
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Lol, silat. Don't argue with skuzzy. You are on the "BBS bad guys team" with him cause you won't like bush.
He has his favorites and you are not one of them.
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Originally posted by Silat
Skuzzy the point of the counter posts is that the righties in here never call for proof of the posts for their positions. The quotes from my posts can be found anywhere. BUsh said them and they are documented.
Silat, just to be clear, I was just making a suggestion. Even something said can be taken out of context. I have seen quite a bit of that going on lately.
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Originally posted by Furious
Lol, silat. Don't argue with skuzzy. You are on the "BBS bad guys team" with him cause you won't like bush.
He has his favorites and you are not one of them.
OT:I have no idea what you are referring to Furious. I take offense to the notion that there is a "bad guys" team. I hope you were kidding.
Oh, and you do not know who I like for President.
Sorry for the off-topic remarks NUKE.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Silat, just to be clear, I was just making a suggestion. Even something said can be taken out of context. I have seen quite a bit of that going on lately.
Agreed. Im just concerned that I havent seen that suggestion for all the anti Kerry things in here.
If the quotes from numerous papers and sources isnt enough then what is? Some of the quotes I wrote I actually saw spoken on the news over the past 4 years.
As Ive said the quotes can be verified by googling but I cant get GWB on the phone to say for sure that it was him or an imposter:)
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"How many people here think Kerry is a great man and will be a good president? What does Kerry stand for again?"
Not me. He testified he commited war crimes, think we will see him in the Hauge soon?
Other than his military service, he has not worked an honest job. Married well twice. He is wealthy enough to afford his policies, I am not.
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Originally posted by Furious
Lol, silat. Don't argue with skuzzy. You are on the "BBS bad guys team" with him cause you won't like bush.
He has his favorites and you are not one of them.
Naw Furious. Skuzz loves me:) I have no problems with him.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Drunky, thats not Muck - its BGB. Same squad, way different typing abilities.
Yea, I knew that. I was just to drunk while posting.
But's still funnay that bgb is making fun of someone who is whining.
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Originally posted by Silat
The Bush we know and love
. Social Security Surplus
BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from raiding the Social Security surplus." [President Bush, 3/3/01]
SOURCE (http://www.senate.gov/src/agenda/index.cfm?fuseaction=ViewMessage&message_id=44)
...BUSH SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4 trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes." [The New York Times, 2/6/02]
Have to pay to find this one
2. Patient's Right to Sue
GOVERNOR BUSH VETOES PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "Despite his campaign rhetoric in favor of a patients' bill of rights, Bush fought such a bill tooth and nail as Texas governor, vetoing a bill coauthored by Republican state Rep. John Smithee in 1995. He... constantly opposed a patient's right to sue an HMO over coverage denied that resulted in adverse health effects." [Salon, 2/7/01]
SOURCE (http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/02/07/patients/index.html)
...CANDIDATE BUSH PRAISES TEXAS PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "We're one of the first states that said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage... It's time for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people. And I think this is right for the people. You know, I support a national patients' bill of rights, Mr. Vice President. And I want all people covered. I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've got in Texas." [Governor Bush, 10/17/00]
SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/18/debate.fact.check/)
...PRESIDENT BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION ARGUES AGAINST RIGHT TO SUE "To let two Texas consumers, Juan Davila and Ruby R. Calad, sue their managed-care companies for wrongful denials of medical benefits ‘would be to completely undermine' federal law regulating employee benefits, Assistant Solicitor General James A. Feldman said at oral argument March 23. Moreover, the administration's brief attacked the policy rationale for Texas's law, which is similar to statutes on the books in nine other states." [Washington Post, 4/5/04]
SOURCE (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A50163-2004Apr4¬Found=true)
3. Tobacco Buyout
BUSH SUPPORTS CURRENT TOBACCO FARMERS' QUOTA SYSTEM... "They've got the quota system in place -- the allotment system -- and I don't think that needs to be changed." [President Bush, 5/04]
SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/03/congress.tobacco.ap/)
...BUSH ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL BUYOUT OF TOBACCO QUOTAS "The administration is open to a buyout." [White House spokeswoman Jeanie Mamo, 6/18/04]
SOURCE (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/sunnews/2004/06/18/news/local/8952852.htm)
4. North Korea
BUSH WILL NOT OFFER NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM... "We developed a bold approach under which, if the North addressed our long-standing concerns, the United States was prepared to take important steps that would have significantly improved the lives of the North Korean people. Now that North Korea's covert nuclear weapons program has come to light, we are unable to pursue this approach." [President's Statement, 11/15/02]
SOURCE (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/18/world/main529681.shtml)
...BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFERS NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM"Well, we will work to take steps to ease their political and economic isolation. So there would be -- what you would see would be some provisional or temporary proposals that would only lead to lasting benefit after North Korea dismantles its nuclear programs. So there would be some provisional or temporary efforts of that nature." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 6/23/04]
SOURCE (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/06/20040623-14.html)
5. Abortion
BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question." [The Nation, 6/15/00, quoting the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, 5/78]
SOURCE (http://lubbockonline.com/stories/071899/sta_071899096.shtml)
...BUSH OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life." [Governor Bush, 10/3/00]
SOURCE (http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2000a.html)
6. OPEC
BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price." [President Bush, 1/26/00]
SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/05/08/column.billpress/)
...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami Herald, 4/1/04]
SOURCE (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/national/8332331.htm?1c)
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Originally posted by Sandman
You get the idea...
Thanks Sand:)
But I knew they were legit and that a google would answer all questions:)
SO Bodhi now that you can see that they are legit what do you have to say about them?