Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lazs2 on September 15, 2004, 07:13:53 PM
-
(http://[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/healey55/108-0877_IMG.jpg)[/IMG]
lazs
-
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/healey55/108-0877_IMG.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/healey55/108-0877_IMG.jpg)
-
ok... third time is the charm...
for you anti gun nuts.... which of these guns should I not be allowed to own and why?
lazs
-
If the question is "should" you own, I would say "none" since you are a known 6-view Nazi, and Stiggie lives in he same general area.
-
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/healey55/108-0870_IMG.jpg)
or these if it makes it simpler..
lazs
-
It don`t matter which one. Just sell one of them and buy some carpet cleaner . :D
-
If those are all yours, then an
to you and a great collection you have there! I'd get a kick of firing some of those out on the range.
I dont think any of them should be illegal. The only thing that even scratches the surface of being illegal is the "high capacity" magazine. Besides, none of them are fully automatic and all of the rifles are legal to hunt with where I hunt.
-
Originally posted by Jackal1
It don`t matter which one. Just sell one of them and buy some carpet cleaner . :D
Heh.
Of the pistols, I'd say the one with the little atomic-like logo on it. Just cuz it looks goofy.
Of the rifles, the one with the camo strap attached. Kinda useless when the magazine looks like it's gonna reflect enough light to blind the prey. Or maybe that's the plan.
-
hehee... notice the sanding pole? I added on to the house and the carpet you see is going to be pulled up since it no longer covers the area. I basicly was using it as a drop cloth for now.
still.... I am not adverse to a few stains here and there in any case. Sometimes I make em just so my girfriend can clean em... makes her happy.
liz... I am only a six view nazi till I get what I want. speaking of nazi tho... see the k98? it is in new condition... far as I can tell it is unfired. I bought 1000 rounds of 8mm mauser tho so...
lazs
-
nash.. the pistol with the atomic logo on it is a 12 ounce 357 magnum. I call it "the noisy crickett" after the gun in men in black... it gives a whole new meaning to the word recoil. It kicks more than any gun in the pictures.
the camo strap gun is one I bought from a poacher... I have black mags and clear ones for it too.
Anyone able to name all of the guns?
lazs
-
(http://members.rogers.com/ereid/Lazzer.jpg)
It just looked like a gun fer a sissy.
-
The one in the upper right is the only one I would own, for pistols, but I would take any of the rifles/shotguns.
-
The ones I like and therefore you get to keep:
Pistols: The middle one pointing upper right. Just a great looking gun.
Rifles: The bottom one - not sure why.
-
Laz,
I have a M48 Yugo in the box. The mag on the Ruger is the only ilegal item if you live in Kalifornia. Other wise I trust you know the consiquences as I do if you pull the trigger at the wrong time. :)
I always like going to the range. Everyone is so very polite. ;)
-
I can name some of em, top to bottom (rifles)
1903 Springfield
M1 Carbine (?)
K98 8mm (I have a similar, but only a mauser action, no made by mauser, 7mm version)
not sure about first shotgun
seems to be a 12 guage pump action
M1 Garand
Handguns: I know little about handguns, but here goes:
Colt 1911
.357 mag
a full size .357
and some revolvers I know nothing of.
-
torque... several very large guys who have fired that gun would not fire another round out of it after the first.
357 mag 125 grain jacketed hollowpoint may be a sissy round but... it has the all time record for 1 hit stops on humans. It is a gun that you carry and hope you never have to fire. but... like all J frame smiths... it is very accurate... if you keep your eyes open and don't flinch all the way to canada. It is made of titanium and scandium.
lazs
-
united.... you got two right on the longguns (three if you count "some kind of 12 guage pump" as an answer)
you got 1 right on the handguns (two if you count "1911" the same as any clone)
there are no full size .357's in the bunch.
lazs
-
Whelp! That settles it! When I'm in CA in Febuary, I know who's house I'm gonna rob!
-
Only three of the whole bunch? Ouch. Mustve been the only 3 I've ever used...
Still, you do have a great collection there.
-
My Kimber is more than enough for stopping people. But my Glock 27 .40SW works to.
-
Yeah....Rip wants that carpet! ;)
-
They missed your Browning HI Power and Makerov.
-
Originally posted by LePaul
Yeah....Rip wants that carpet! ;)
My garage carpet is cleaner than his carpet in his house! ;)
-
liz... I like that one too... do you know what it is? I have shot over 50,000 rounds through it.
Nash... good taste... both very nice guns and I use them a lot.
bustr... there is a Kimber in the bunch... Nash likes it. finestien and the brady bunch don't. they don't like Nash's other choice either.
united... thank you.... the group is ecclectic as I suppose I am also so most wouldn't be able to name most of em... a lot of the handguns are modified so a little more difficult to identify also.
oh... and for once rpm and I agree on which guns should be banned.
lazs
-
buistr there is no hi power in the group. I embarassed myself in another thread pretending to know about hi powers tho.
rip... I will probly use that carpet in the garage a piece at a time to lay on working on the Hot Rods eventually anyway...
My house is single guy clean except when my girlfriend comes over and spends the day cleaning.
lazs
-
I want that Mauser :(
-
Originally posted by lazs2
rip... I will probly use that carpet in the garage a piece at a time to lay on working on the Hot Rods eventually anyway...
My house is single guy clean except when my girlfriend comes over and spends the day cleaning.
lazs
Lazs, I was ranking on myself. Didn't mean to give you a hard time ;)
Nice Collection.
-
Some ol dogleg .45, they are all good.
-
Laz, you should get rid of the walther (the stainless, 32 or 380 acp on the left) Unless that is your wifes gun...:D
Rifles: The mini-14, just because I owned one and it was the biggest POS I ever had.
BTW is that rifel on the bottem a real (meaning authentic) M1 garand?????
-
Laz looks like one, is it not a Browning? S&W or Ruger?? I don't own one,,just Kimber and Glock. Mostly I have service rifles. Garand, M1A1, Enfeilds No. 4 MK1 & MK2, 1898 Argintine Mauser, M48 Yugo Mauser. FN/FAL Inch Pattern (Century Arms refurb peice) and DS Arms SA58 Carbine. Oh yeah a Winchester Model 70 Coyote in .243 win.
I cast my own .314 210grn for the enfeilds. The throats are worn. The Garand and M1A1 I reload with sierra 168 hpbt, IMR4895 and small base full case resize. I have a Forster COAX press. I like the universal jaws rather than buying a shell holder for each caliber. It has a press primer setter that sets .005 under everytime. Saves my face from slam fires with the Garand and M1A1 since there firing pins can float.
I don't feel like going through the trouble now in california to take an idiot test and give them my finger print to purchash a hand gun. I scored 100% on the earlier firearms safety test in 97 to get my Kimber and Glock.
2A is a right, not a privilage. We grant elected officials the privilage of governing us.:)
-
Originally posted by lazs2
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/healey55/108-0870_IMG.jpg)
or these if it makes it simpler..
lazs
is that a trench gun? if it is cool one to have for home defense. :)
-
Yeah... I think it is a trench gun. Is that a bayonet mount on the front of it?
Gonna take a stab at the handguns lazs...
The top 3 revolvers are .44s. The Makarov, the Kimber and what looks to be some kind of CZ round out the autos in the middle. The small revolver is the .357. The 4th looks to be an old .41 but could also be a service .357 (or .38).
Why is the Kimber on the hit list lazs? It's not high capacity nor particularly concealable and doesn't really have any more/less stopping power than the small .357 which is very concealable.
Oh... and I'd guess the Mini-14 is the rifle on the banning block. Kinda funny since it and the shotgun second from the bottom are the only two that weren't used in wars.
-
Originally posted by lazs2
ok... third time is the charm...
for you anti gun nuts.... which of these guns should I not be allowed to own and why?
lazs
OK, I'm not an anti-gun nut, but I'll take a shot.
the Ruger wheel-gun and the .45 in the middle. why? 'cause they should be mine.
you could throw in the shotgun too since good things come in 3's
-
Lazs which one is the, uhh, the snake incident gun?
-
Laz, take a closer look at the pic i posted, i was referring to the Walther.
-
Originally posted by Torque
Laz, take a closer look at the pic i posted, i was referring to the Walther.
Damn lazs, this canadian commie pinko socialist took away one of your guns... :eek: :eek: ;)
-
Nice Model 12's. Always nice to see another fan :D
(http://www.hunt101.com/img/040348.jpg)
-
In no particular order the pistols are:
CZ75
Colt .38 (my dad has two of these, really nice guns)
Walther PPK
Taurus
Kimber
Dan Wesson .44
Smith & Wesson
Ruger
and I'm guessing the little one is a Tokarev.
The rifles are:
Enfield Mk3
Mini 14
Mauser
2 Model 12's
and a Garand
-
Originally posted by lazs2
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/healey55/108-0877_IMG.jpg)
Is the snubnosed .357 an "Airweight S&W"? Always wanted to shoot one of those. I can imagine the recoil. Nice.
Karaya
-
LAZ you have a nice AirSoft collection ;)
-
TOHSE ARE ASALT WEPUNS!!!!!!!!!!! BAN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!!!!
-
Originally posted by Torque
Laz, take a closer look at the pic i posted...
Damn... way too subtle... I missed it.
-
Gawd just give me the M1 NOW!
-
Ill take the Mini 14 please...
But eh... Lazs... isnt that PPK a little "girly" for you? Or wait... I bet you just bought that so Beatle would have something to use, right?
-
Originally posted by lazs2
snipped...
Anyone able to name all of the guns?
lazs
OKay, I will name them,, left to right.. Shirley, MAck, NUTTZ, Roy, Sissy, holepuncher... how am I doing sofar?
NUTTZ
-
nothing wrong with the ppk (I got a little .22lr version myself).
other than my little .22s colt derringer, it's the only one thats concealable when wearing your swimsuit. :p
although I've heard rumors that Laz is known to carry while wearing less than that.
-
Originally posted by Gunslinger
LAZ you have a nice AirSoft collection ;)
:lol :rofl
-
Nice guns.
In Belgium you could have all those guns (bar the Mini-14 as it is full auto) but the waiting time to have your permit would be ~3 months for every request.
The waiting time for a Mini-14 permit could be as long as a year, or it could be refused.
As you have a lot of guns you would have to have a safe anchored to the walls.
But to have a carry (concealed) permit you would need to have a very good reason.
I particularly like the Kimber and the snub SW with internal hammer.
One question, is your PPK a 7,65mm or a .380 ACP/9mm short?
-
reply..whew...
medicboy.. I like the mini14 never had a problem with it. The Walther is a very accurate gun and well made... I have several ex wives but the gun is mine. and yes that is a real 1944 Garrand.
bustr... I use an old RCBS press...
mini d "The top 3 revolvers are .44s. The Makarov, the Kimber and what looks to be some kind of CZ round out the autos in the middle. The small revolver is the .357. The 4th looks to be an old .41 but could also be a service .357 (or .38). "
yes the top three are 44 mags.. CZ is close but there are hints as to make and caliber in the pic. No 41, 357 or 38 except for the PD of course.
grun... the historic gun is the manly one in the upper right.
liz.. the wheelgun is not a colt or a 45 45's have fluted cylinders.
lazs
-
dune said..
"In no particular order the pistols are:
CZ75
Colt .38 (my dad has two of these, really nice guns)
Walther PPK
Taurus
Kimber
Dan Wesson .44
Smith & Wesson
Ruger
and I'm guessing the little one is a Tokarev.
The rifles are:
Enfield Mk3
Mini 14
Mauser
2 Model 12's
and a Garand"
allmost on... I expected as much but.. There is no CZ75 the gun is compensated which should be a hint.
No colt 38 no colt at all.
no taurus
no tokerev
longguns are dead on except one model 97 is a clone.
nuttz 3 out of five.
sour... hey... James Bond used a PPK in .32
lazs
-
Nice collection Laz
Only ones I don't care for are the small caliber autos and the bone/horn handled .41/.44. I'm no fan of autos in general, only ones I own are collectors items (P08 and P38) and the 9mm Glock I bought for my wife based on its simplicity. I particularly like the SA Ruger, is it chambered for .45Colt? You should trade in the Garand and the 98K for an M21 though :D
I'm a HUGE fan of the .357 (I own three of them, 1.5 inch-5 shot hammerless, 4 inch, and 8 inch), all are full of 125gr too, seems we read the same book :D My hammerless 5-shot .357 (SP101) is not the ultralite one and it still kicks like hell. I have fired one of those ultralite .357s before...once.
-
edbert... the bone handled one is one of my favorites... I had it cut down to 4" (it is a 44) the SA ruger is a '73 and it has an unfluted cylinder and dragoon trigger guard so.... not a 45
Don't know why everyone says "collection" they are simply working guns that I got for one reason or another.. history or workmanship or utility or got a deal on..
There are no full sized 357's in the bunch I figure anything a 357 will do a 44 will do better except.... hide.
was never a semi auto fan but the kimber walther and makarov are EXTREMELY reliable and well made and..... historic.
lazs
-
Originally posted by lazs2
There are no full sized 357's in the bunch I figure anything a 357 will do a 44 will do better except.... hide.
Don't forget...disperse more energy into the target. The .44mag is just too heavy/fast to be able to expend the energy in light-skinned/thin-boned animals (i'm talking deer not humans :)), it tends to overpenetrate without expansion unless the target is VERY large. Thats the reason the 125gr .357 has such a good record, the 158gr .357 (most common load) does not do as well for much the same reason as the .41mag/.44mag. The .45ACP does well because it moves so much slower than the .44mag.
-
edbert... I think that you will find that with deer that 44 and even 50 does a much better job on deer and boar and such than the 357 the diameter is allready what the 357 aspires too and... penetration at hunting ranges is important.
humans... you can still make a better 44 round than most 357's tho the 125 hp fifty seven is still king... lighter hydrosok 44's are devestating... you can load any 44 to any level you want up or down.
stopping power in humans is about diameter, velocity and weight and composition of bullet allong with velocity... you can theoretically do anythng that a .357 does with a 44 only better... in other words. if the 125 grain 357 at 1300 fps sec is king and expands to .55... you can make a 44 125 grain bullet go 1300 fps and expand to .75 or go 1500 fps and still expand and expend all its energy in the target.
versitile and they use large primers and are easier to reload for.
fifty seven is a great cartridge tho.
lazs
-
Yeah, handloading opens up entirely new options alright
!
I've killed at least a dozen deer with my 57, anytime I can stalk close enough I'll sling my rifle and use the pistol. Almost all the time the 125 fails to exit, it hits a rib going in and does not really expand...it EXPLODES. All I can find of the bullet is shrapnel :D The deer around where I hunt are not small, they are TINY. The average deer killed in Gillespie and Llanno counties (Texas) are around 65 pounds dressed. I fear the 57 would prove inadequate on a large ferrel hog though, thats what the 30-06 is for :D
-
Originally posted by lazs2
grun... the historic gun is the manly one in the upper right.
lazs
Oh that is so perfect.... :)
-
still tho... this is a group...an ecclectic group... of guns that I enjoy for one reason or another... they range feom high powered rifles and 44 magnum handguns to little 32 autos.... every single one iof em is fun to own and to shoot and..
they are all quite deadly if need be or if used carelessly.... all of them have had thousands of rounds put thru them except the little scandium one and some of the long guns.
They are all fun to show and shoot and work on and clean on my kitchen table. I treat them all with the same respect due potentialy deadly weapons.
some are allmost 100 years old and still do well what they were intended for.
torque (not to single him out) feels the walther is a girls gun.... I would guess that he really has never shot one... nash is in the same boat with the scandium one...
appearance... why is appearance the important thing to people who know very little about guns? well... logic really. If you don't know anything but how something looks and what you are told by an anti gun media that also knows little or nothing about guns. (my guess is that the canadians here know some about guns but very little or nothing about handguns)
Most would be astounded by the muzzle blast and kick and noise from the little 357 or shocked at the accuracy at 50 yards of the little walther or .... amazed at the condition and fun of shooting a 1917 smith and wesson....
Don't know what I am trying to say here other than... it's a hobby and a tool... all guns are potentialy deadly as are cars and chainsaws.
The more people know about guns the better.... not too long ago... most Americans could have identified allmost every gun in the group (or their older counterparts in some cases).
I don't believe that it is a gbood thing that we know less about guns and gun safety than before. I don't think it is a good thing to teach kids to be afraid of guns but not teach em safe handling.
lazs
-
almost any gun is deadly in hands of well trained shooter. every gun is dangerous to everyone in area in hands of untrained person. if you took every kid at maybe age eight or nine and showed them what a bullet does to a target maybe have them shoot a watermelon through a car door say youd have kids with a bunch more respect for what a bullet downrange can do. there is always going to be stupid or plain bad kids with worthless parents which is why you make the parent responsible for the gun. their gun kills someone they go up for murder. but i think many times guns kill on accident its someone with no hands on with a gun ever they dont know how dangerous and unforgiving they are. guns will always exist in hands of civvies in america at least. make the best of the situation and make sure people are trained in their proper handling nationwide. theres no shame and no way to prevent a crazy or plain bad person from doing harm sometimes. but accidents can be prevented and when the people with the power to prevent them dont make the effort every accidental gun death leaves a little blood on their hands. you dont let kids near a pool without watching them and you make sure kids know how to swim just in case. the same care and preparation should be taken with guns.
-
hmm... still no one who wants to guess what all these extremelyu common firearms are?
lazs
-
Originally posted by anonymous
if you took every kid at maybe age eight or nine and showed them what a bullet does to a target maybe have them shoot a watermelon through a car door say you'd have kids with a bunch more respect for what a bullet downrange can do.
this is exactly what I did with my kids (5-6 yrs old at the time).
in our case there was an old dump area not far from the house. someone had dumped of a whole case of home canned beets (can't say I blame them). they were the perfect example, very bright and stained everything they touched.
set a jar up on an old couch and had him watch it closely while I shot it.
then you walk the kid down range and tell him to put the jar back together just like it was before.
when he says he can't, you give him the explanation of how he owns that bullet until it comes to a stop. how he's personally responsible for it and every thing it passes through or ends up in. how whatever it hits will never be the same again and there is no going back and making it different after the fact, firing a gun is a permanent kinda thing and you need to make sure you really want to hit what your aiming at and there is nothing you don't want to hit in a dangerous position.
IMO this is absolutely crucial in raising a kid, if you don't own guns ask a friend who does to help you educate you're kids.
it's the only way to fight the crap they see on TV. when my kids were young it was 'the A-team', these guys fire full autos into crowds of people and somehow miraculously, nobody dies or bleeds, these magic bullets just knock down bad guys and apply handcuffs (and never hit a bystander).
I kept my collection small and all of the guns locked up until my youngest was old enough to be educated. now there is no need. they all fully understand gun safety and practice it. the mystery is gone, there is no temptation, they know how each of the guns is loaded and fired, any questions they have are answered and they can just ask and be allowed to fire any gun I own.
I find this much more effective than the people I know who go with the locked-up and out of sight method- where they think their kids don't even know they own a gun, because they keep it safely hidden where their kids will never find it (with the porn collection and the keys to the liquor cabinet and dirt-bikes).
-
Originally posted by lazs2
hmm... still no one who wants to guess what all these extremelyu common firearms are?
lazs
i got trenchgun right didnt i? how much did that cost you if you dont mind me asking.
-
I think it was around $300 but there was some importation problems at the time so the price might have been higher.
lazs
-
Originally posted by lazs2
hmm... still no one who wants to guess what all these extremelyu common firearms are?
lazs
Speak English and get to the point. Do you want people to ID the guns? Is there some other answer you're looking for?
-
well... I am the clumsiest and noisest typist ever (they call it keyboarding now I guess) Having a ch j stick bolted to the desk and moving the keyboard off center doesn't help either and.... there is that other small problem with litteracy.. but...
the question, like every thread here.... morphed.
I wanted to know what guns the anti gun nuts thought were too evil or dangerous or whatever for me to own.
Then I find that none of em... and most of the pro gun guys too... really even know what the guns in question are.
The pro gun guys knew the most and even their bad guess's weren't that far off... and... they understoood that all were potentially dangerous...
the anti gun guys scoffed at some while showing respect for others.... it was funny that they often assigned the most danger to some of the least powerful and vice versa.
How easy is it for people who don't know anything to be manifpulated by the media?
lazs
-
Ah... so the question should be:
Which guns do you think are the most dangerous... and why?
In all fairness to people not knowing guns... the market is flooded with variants on variants these days. The conversion to the hammerless pistol has made things even more diverse. It's easy to keep a casual eye on, but difficult to track to the point that you can recognize everything.
As far as the riffles go, all the WW2 stuff looks the same to me. A mauser vs some turkish riffle with a mauser action.
Of course, the people that are anti-gun are always the ones that know the absolute least about them. The CNN/AK-47/Cinderblock fiasco highlights that. The fact that people bring up automatic weapons in regards to the "assault weapons ban" highlights that. The fact that people called a .32 a girly gun highlights that.
Me... I'm just trying to get over the fact that it is entirely likely you wore one of those guns in a holster while you were naked.
-
yep... I think that the fact that most of the anti gun guys don't even know which guns to demonize or why when confronted with a choice... I also think that most peoples prjudices and neurosis don't survive contact with the real thing..
never took anyone shooting who didn't enjoy the experiance.
as for the last item... not that I would do anything to further your sexual dysfunction... it is the superblackhawk upper right.. I hope that when you are with the little woman you can keep it out of your mind... it is as simple as... "don't think about the elephant"
lazs
-
Nice collection Lazs, heres mine
(http://home.mpinet.net/~mbt/guns/rifles.JPG)
(http://home.mpinet.net/~mbt/guns/handguns.JPG)
sorry bout the crappy quality, my camera sucks!
Also, as soon as they get back with me on price, I'll be adding one of these to the collection :aok
(http://home.mpinet.net/~mbt/guns/VEPR%20K%207.62%20FS.jpg)
-
If it were Aus you were asking about, it would be an easy Q.
Everything in the top picture, and all bar the Lee Enfield and the Mauser in the second pick would be illegal to own.
In the States, and I'm guessing here, it would be the 1944 M1 Garrand, and the 'riot' shotgun with the lug on the barrel for attachments that would get you in trouble.
Maybe the Ruger Mini 14 too, depending on how many rounds that mag takes.
Nice selection of weaponry there anyway Lazs, looks like they'd make for many a great day of can carnage.
-
Originally posted by lazs2
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/healey55/108-0877_IMG.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/healey55/108-0877_IMG.jpg)
i like 2 of them.. guess who it is
-
Originally posted by lazs2
"the anti gun guys scoffed at some while showing respect for others..."
Who were the anti-gun guys in this thread? Sounds like yer dissapointed that you didn't get a fight. You certainly aint getting one from me.
-
First handguns. In CA there are a bunch of guns got banned because they were considered unsafe for whatever reason. Half of those handguns may be banned but I wouldnt know. Just a guess.
Rifles. The one with the bayonet fixture if any and the mini-14 cause of its clip.
-
every one of the guns in the pictures is legal to own with no special restrictions in California.
bluedog... that really is too bad... all of the handguns are really fun to shoot.
I was just wondering what guns the anti gun guys think that I shouldn't own and..... if so... why?
lazs
-
Originally posted by lazs2
I was just wondering what guns the anti gun guys think that I shouldn't own and..... if so... why?
lazs
Sounds like a trick question... I would suspect an anti gun guy would not want you to own any of the guns. :rolleyes:
-
It's not a trick question... it's a valid one.
Anti-gun legislation is based on slowly banning more and more guns. Basically, finding new reasons for banning additional weapons.
Laz's rifle list has a couple of rifles that would be very close to being banned with the "assault weapons ban" that just expired, though both are just as leathal (if not more) than most weapons that showed up on that list.
The Mini-14 is actually banned by law in some states. The AR-15 is too. Why? Because they look scary. The mini-14 is perhaps the lowest powered riffle and least accurate of that bunch. But, it does have a clip sticking out.
The ironic thing is that the Germans requested a ban on the shotgun that is third from the bottom after WWI. It is, by far, the most lethal of the bunch for closer quarters work. Yet, shotguns are usually the last weapon to be banned with incremental bans. It tells you that the people instilling the bands know nothing about the weapons they are having banned. It tells you that the voters know very little about the legislation they are voting on. It tells you that uninformed hype and hysteria are more dangerous than 30 million handguns.
-
It tells you that uninformed hype and hysteria are more dangerous than 30 million handguns.
Spot on. The AWB is what happens when legislators who haven't a clue exercise their control. Wife and I had a get together with some of her friends this past weekend. One of the guys knows that I'm into firearms (he is ambivalent), and mentioned the sunset of the AWB just recently. I mentioned that counter to what is shown on the news, the law wasn't about automatic weapons (machine guns). That, if you read the letter of the law it only mentions semi-auto weapons and cosmetics. He wasn't aware of that at all.
mauser
-
mini is right on the mark.
ripper is correct too tho... anti gun guys don't want me to own any of em but... the anti gun guys here all pretend to only want to get rid of the "bad" ones.
lazs
-
Originally posted by anonymous
almost any gun is deadly in hands of well trained shooter. every gun is dangerous to everyone in area in hands of untrained person. if you took every kid at maybe age eight or nine and showed them what a bullet does to a target maybe have them shoot a watermelon through a car door say youd have kids with a bunch more respect for what a bullet downrange can do. there is always going to be stupid or plain bad kids with worthless parents which is why you make the parent responsible for the gun. their gun kills someone they go up for murder. but i think many times guns kill on accident its someone with no hands on with a gun ever they dont know how dangerous and unforgiving they are. guns will always exist in hands of civvies in america at least. make the best of the situation and make sure people are trained in their proper handling nationwide. theres no shame and no way to prevent a crazy or plain bad person from doing harm sometimes. but accidents can be prevented and when the people with the power to prevent them dont make the effort every accidental gun death leaves a little blood on their hands. you dont let kids near a pool without watching them and you make sure kids know how to swim just in case. the same care and preparation should be taken with guns.
(http://www.anesi.com/accpct.gif)
-
Doh! Lazs has finally discovered how to post pictures. Now no-one is safe!
Lazs, I think you should get rid of the three you let me try, as these are now tainted as girly guns.
Still waiting for my Mack with the salmon pink grip. If you can't get salmon pink, a gentle floral pattern will do.
-
I would beetle but don't you have to be at least knighted or show the proper blood lines before you can be trusted with a firearm over there?
lazs
-
No, there's an exemption for girly guns like the one I want you to send me, so send it along...
-
Ahh... we have pretty much the same thing here.. The "ladysmith" is the J frame smith in 38 special and it came in all kinds of colors even pink. it is the exact same thing as the chiefs special j frame 39 but no one ever tried to ban it.
the mini 14 and 7600 remington are semi auto carbines and rifles in both a mid (assult weapon) and a full power rifle round.. they are not black so are immune for now from the gun grabbers.
so... even the peasants can have handguns there if we make em look harmless enough? thought you guys couldn't even have pellet guns?
lazs
-
is a shotgun a pellet gun?
-
apparently not by englands defenition.
lazs
-
Which is the most deadly?
I would make the opinon that the ultralight .357 is the most all around deadly.
Not the most firepower, but the best combination of firepower and small size/ concealability.
For a full out firefight, I would prefer the Mini-14 narrowly over one of the Shotguns. The reload rate on the -14 and its increased range makes it the best of those options.
PS: Nice guns Laz !
-
verm... they are all interesting and each had assets that are offset by liabilities... the little .357 is just gawdawful painful to shoot... a real last ditch gun but... it is about like a cell phone for conceallability and weight... I like the sawed off ruger 44 with the elk horn grips for accuracy and power but it is a touch on the heavy side. The 45 Kimber is a nice flat gun with power and accuracy but... heavy and large..
The Dan Wesson makes one hole groups. I have a 4" barrel for it that changes out in about a minute. The 1917 45 acp smith takes full moon clips for fast reloads... the eaa witness 45 takes 10 round mags and has a built in compensator that works... I also have a 22 conversion that installs in seconds for that gun. The Walther in 32 is accurate and concealable and reliable and.... classic. The big Ruger single action is an old friend with 50000 plus rounds through it. slow to reload but...If you can't stop something with 6 rounds of 44 mag.... The makarow if accurate and cheap and historic.
lazs