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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Oleg on September 15, 2004, 10:19:34 PM
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Sorry I miss the point. Storch kill you when he was in YOUR side?
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Sorry, Oleg. None of that channel 1 chatter was about you. Hope you didn't think it was.
But yeah... in a word. Yes. On the same side, he vulched me as I landed after disengaging from you.
Goes back to last night when the setup was porked allowing axis to fly allied planes from one carrier. Everybody heeded 1Duke1's request to stick to the setup ... except storch, who had to take up an F4U-4.
At the time, I didn't kow killshooter was off .. so I sent a few rounds past him. I was in a zeke ... saw an allied-marked plane :D ... seemed like the thing to do.
Anyway, he told me to back off or he'd come back and kill me. So I shot him down.
He told me then he'd be shooting me down all night because of it. So I killed his zeke twice when he came after me. Pure self-defense.
Long story for no more than it's worth. But that's what happened. I lost my temper with the vulch tonight, and got muted. I deserved that.
Anyway, he's not willing take the spat out of the CT to the DA where it belongs. I've dropped it.
Team killing has no place in the CT. My only defense ... and it's a weak one ... is that he was flying an allied plane and the CT is supposed to be axis-vs-allied.
A good reason killshooter ought to be left on.
Splash1
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Originally posted by Dennis
Sorry, Oleg. None of that channel 1 chatter was about you. Hope you didn't think it was.
Oh no, of course i didnt. Just want to make clear for myself what happens there. Sorry for curiosity but it was in open channel. Thank you for telling me full story.
By the way... Nice behavior for "CT Staff candidate", no doubt :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Dennis
Sorry, Oleg. None of that channel 1 chatter was about you. Hope you didn't think it was.
But yeah... in a word. Yes. On the same side, he vulched me as I landed after disengaging from you.
Goes back to last night when the setup was porked allowing axis to fly allied planes from one carrier. Everybody heeded 1Duke1's request to stick to the setup ... except storch, who had to take up an F4U-4.
At the time, I didn't kow killshooter was off .. so I sent a few rounds past him. I was in a zeke ... saw an allied-marked plane :D ... seemed like the thing to do.
Anyway, he told me to back off or he'd come back and kill me. So I shot him down.
He told me then he'd be shooting me down all night because of it. So I killed his zeke twice when he came after me. Pure self-defense.
Long story for no more than it's worth. But that's what happened. I lost my temper with the vulch tonight, and got muted. I deserved that.
Anyway, he's not willing take the spat out of the CT to the DA where it belongs. I've dropped it.
Team killing has no place in the CT. My only defense ... and it's a weak one ... is that he was flying an allied plane and the CT is supposed to be axis-vs-allied.
A good reason killshooter ought to be left on.
Splash1
Except that I had just logged on and the F4U-4 was available Duke asked me not to take it when I was already up. I was going to fly that sortie and not up it again. You shot me. I asked you to stop and you fired a long burst into me that shot me down.
The way I figure it you started, the aggressor always determines the conduct of the fight.
#1 who appointed you sheriff?
#2 you don't have the right to impose your will on anyone. If you want to pay my account I'll fly whatever you ask me to otherwise you were way off base.
#3 everytime I see you I will shoot you. If I catch you landing so much the better. You are fair game based on the conditions I have expressed above.
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First, you had ample opportunity to land the plane when asked.
Second, I shot you down when you turned into me. Until then, I was just messing with you. You know all about messing with people. You make a career out of it in the CT.
The "you started it" crap reminds me of a snotty-nosed brat and his sister in the car ... just before Dad turns around and slaps the stuffing out of him.
And re:
#1. See above.
#2. People who break the rules in games always seem to trot out the tired old "it's my $14.95 I'll play the way I want" crap. I was off base only in messing with someone with no sense of humor who's WAY too wrapped up in online games.
#3. Precisely the reason you are unfit for any position of authority in the CT. Our only consolation is that HT will probably veto your election to any position ... even an 'auxilliary' one.
Splash1
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Originally posted by Dennis
First, you had ample opportunity to land the plane when asked.
Second, I shot you down when you turned into me. Until then, I was just messing with you. You know all about messing with people. You make a career out of it in the CT.
The "you started it" crap reminds me of a snotty-nosed brat and his sister in the car ... just before Dad turns around and slaps the stuffing out of him.
And re:
#1. See above.
#2. People who break the rules in games always seem to trot out the tired old "it's my $14.95 I'll play the way I want" crap. I was off base only in messing with someone with no sense of humor who's WAY too wrapped up in online games.
#3. Precisely the reason you are unfit for any position of authority in the CT. Our only consolation is that HT will probably veto your election to any position ... even an 'auxilliary' one.
Splash1
Break the rules? What rules? If there were any rules you tossed them out when You shot at me more than once. After the first burst I said "hey Dennis kill shooter is off" You shot at me again as I attempted to reverse on you in a corsair. I would have shot back at you but couldn't in the process you shot me down. Paint it any way you like the fact remains that you initiated the whole situation. You are now fair game. When I see you I will shoot you if I can. With regard to the sense of humor comment were you joking it would have been fine but you weren't were you? Was it funny when nailed you? Besides I don't like you enough to joke with you.
With respect to CT thing I could care less either way and may choose not to serve if elected so it's no big deal. I'm growing weary of the game any way. I'm tired of being a paying Beta tester.
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#1. The way I see it, if you get shot down by a friendly, don't expect a chirstmas card in the mail.
#2. If a player has an aircraft up because the arena was reset, no one, I mean no one has the right to ask anyone to land anything. You're not the CT Admin, and you certainly have no right to ask a paying player to decide what he/she flies. It's the CT staff responsibity to ensure the arena is setup properly.
#3. To shoot down a friendly because they upped an aircraft that was available and then get shot down yourself for shooting down that person, see #1.
As the saying goes, don't look a gifted horse in the mouth. We turned off killshooter to increase realism and we can turn it back on just as quick. Please everyone, don't use the arena as a personal vendatta - that's what the dualing arena is for.
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Hey... I wanna go the the DA! No one ever asks me to go to the big dance! I'm tired of being a CT wall flower. *sniff*
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VWE, I was just wondering, i mean if you arent doing anything, and if you are thats ok, i mean its no big deal if you are, but if you arent i was thinking that maybe, if you werent busy, that you might want to go to the DA, i mean if nobodys asked you already and you dont have other plans, so you know i guess let me know or what ever, if you want to.
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*sniff* really? You would be seen with me in the DA? *sniff*
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Let me get this 12-pack down first, then its on!:D
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:rofl you know, I've run across e few that even if I were to pass out my body would some how lift itself up and move to a safe place. :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
#1. The way I see it, if you get shot down by a friendly, don't expect a chirstmas card in the mail.
#2. If a player has an aircraft up because the arena was reset, no one, I mean no one has the right to ask anyone to land anything. You're not the CT Admin, and you certainly have no right to ask a paying player to decide what he/she flies. It's the CT staff responsibity to ensure the arena is setup properly.
#3. To shoot down a friendly because they upped an aircraft that was available and then get shot down yourself for shooting down that person, see #1.
As the saying goes, don't look a gifted horse in the mouth. We turned off killshooter to increase realism and we can turn it back on just as quick. Please everyone, don't use the arena as a personal vendatta - that's what the dualing arena is for.
OK Fork I'll let it go. I'd rather keep the realism rather than pursue a personal fight.
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
#1. The way I see it, if you get shot down by a friendly, don't expect a chirstmas card in the mail.
#2. If a player has an aircraft up because the arena was reset, no one, I mean no one has the right to ask anyone to land anything. You're not the CT Admin, and you certainly have no right to ask a paying player to decide what he/she flies. It's the CT staff responsibity to ensure the arena is setup properly.
#3. To shoot down a friendly because they upped an aircraft that was available and then get shot down yourself for shooting down that person, see #1.
As the saying goes, don't look a gifted horse in the mouth. We turned off killshooter to increase realism and we can turn it back on just as quick. Please everyone, don't use the arena as a personal vendatta - that's what the dualing arena is for.
"It's the CT staff responsibity to ensure the arena is setup properly." Ironicly Storch has been nominated for a staff position. If he caint fly the planes that are supose to be in the set-up, who says he will correct the problem as a staff member? Kinda like a bank robber becomming a cop :rolleyes:
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Well I can't speak for storch but he did tell squad members not to fly any planes on the CV that did not belong in the setup. This was just a few minutes before "the friendly fire incident". So he was doing what he could as a non-staff member....
Most of us didn't listen to him anyway:D
If ya don't want us fly'n it then disable/fix it....
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Originally posted by soda72
If ya don't want us fly'n it then disable/fix it....
Although I think this thing borders on a kindergarten playground fight, I have to agree with Fork and Soda.
Play the arena. It's fine for a player to request people stick to certain rides and even better for people to oblige.
But I don't think anyone has the right to attempt to enforce these things.
Hopefully with a more active and responsible CT staff in the near future this argument will become a mute point.
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Just so this is clear.....when the arena reset, countries switched, and the planeset went to a mid-late war PAC setup.
After checking *each and every* field and CV for both sides, I found that one of the axis CV's had both allied and axis planes enabled... I posted this on the BB. The rest of the fields and CV's had correct planeset's for both sides. It was a *flyable* setup.
Back to the arena.... again the setup was flyable, both sides had competitive planes to fly, except for the one CV. I politely requested of all players currently in the arena to fly the correct planes for their side...ie...Axis fly only Japanese from the porked CV. Storch stated he was already in the air flying an F4U-4 (he was Axis). I asked him to land it. Well, he did....sorta :)
After finishing the flight, he didn't up any other "Allied" planes again, and from what was stated above, asked the same of his squad.
I wasn't trying to act as a "CT Admin". I, as a CT regular, was only requesting that those currently in the CT (majority were CT regulars) to fly the planes for their side...for the CT players to act responsibly and fly only those planes that should have been enabled for their side. I was trying to curb the whines/moans from anyone who came into the CT and would wind up encountering the same plane in a dogfight that they were flying for the other side....ala...the MA...something that I believe is the reason the majority us fly in the CT in the first place.
Obviously Storch heeded my request, case closed. What is between him and Splash....is between him and Splash.
If it is not enough that we in the CT can't govern ourselves a little bit when the arena gets porked, then why even try to have unique setups. When we start flying blue v. blue, or red v. red, just because they are "enabled" due to some kind of snafu, then the CT becomes nothing more than a mini-MA.
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If when you say "govern ourselves" you mean each individual governing themselves, I agree with everything you said.
Very well spoken.