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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lasersailor184 on September 16, 2004, 09:31:13 PM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250
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lame bastards... if u must be a *** don't mess with the kid
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Why bring a cat to a dog show?
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That's funny. :rofl
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Originally posted by RTSigma
Why bring a cat to a dog show?
regardless....that was just wrong.
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Ahh, stupid people and holes of asses. They can truly be found anywhere.
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That kid on the bottom right is gettin ready to pwnz0rz someone! :D
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Originally posted by Sandman
That's funny. :rofl
Just as funny as the whole Kerry campaign.
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Luckily, he wasn't a Kerry supporter at a Bush rally.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-net0914,0,1410753.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=14041
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/firstglance/index.ssf?/base/news-0/109538581816140.xml
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Originally posted by rpm371
Luckily, he wasn't a Kerry supporter at a Bush rally.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-net0914,0,1410753.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=14041
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/firstglance/index.ssf?/base/news-0/109538581816140.xml
So I don't get it. Free speech allows people to go anywere at any time and say anything????
Sure people have the right to dissent against the govt. but that doesnt include being a nusience nore making an bellybutton of yourself in public.
You should see pictures of how "peace protesters" treated some dissenters at their rallys
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(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040916/capt.wvrs10309162250.edwards_wvrs103.jpg)
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Originally posted by Sandman
That's funny. :rofl
I see you wear your ignorance like a badge on your sleeve.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I see you wear your ignorance like a badge on your sleeve.
Karaya
I see that you have little to add but a personal attack. Thanks for playing.
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Originally posted by rpm371
Luckily, he wasn't a Kerry supporter at a Bush rally.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=14041
"Luckily, he wasn't a Kerry supporter at a Bush rally." - He, it is about the kid in this instance, why post if you don't read? Instead you try a shot at cheap humor by letting your emotions try to find retribution.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=14041
This link is useless. Their "First Amendment rights were infringed". How? Gee, what "they did" isn't in the article. That tells me they "did something stupid" and "leave it out, bash Bush". Which ONE of the 1st Amendment rights were infringed then post that link.
If you laugh at kid crying regardless, you're a sick SOB.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Sandman
I see that you have little to add but a personal attack. Thanks for playing.
Playing, keep trying sad attempts at humor. By the way, my former comment still stands.
Karaya
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I don't think kids have a place at political rallies and meetings such as that. They'll hear things they wouldn't understand or be subject to such action against them as shown in the article.
If I was that kid, I'd be crying because I wasn't at home watching Spongebob Squarepants.
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Originally posted by Sandman
I see that you have little to add but a personal attack. Thanks for playing.
He has a point though. It says a lot about a person's character when they think it's funny to see children assaulted.
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Originally posted by Octavius
That kid on the bottom right is gettin ready to pwnz0rz someone! :D
Was looking for anyone who had posted that..
:lol
I bet you he brought his kid just so he would get publicity like this...
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Shoot this guy , using his daughter as a political tool is more than lame.
As a father I can't understand a father corrupting his kid with politic.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
"Luckily, he wasn't a Kerry supporter at a Bush rally." - He, it is about the kid in this instance, why post if you don't read? Instead you try a shot at cheap humor by letting your emotions try to find retribution.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=14041
This link is useless. Their "First Amendment rights were infringed". How? Gee, what "they did" isn't in the article. That tells me they "did something stupid" and "leave it out, bash Bush". Which ONE of the 1st Amendment rights were infringed then post that link.
If you laugh at kid crying regardless, you're a sick SOB.
Karaya
A couple arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol filed a federal lawsuit yesterday alleging their First Amendment rights were violated.
Nicole and Jeff Rank were removed from the event in handcuffs after revealing T-shirts with President Bush's name crossed out on the front. Nicole Rank's shirt had the words "Love America, Hate Bush" on the back and Jeff Rank's had "Regime change starts at home" on the back.
The ACLU filed a federal lawsuit last September against the Secret Service, seeking an injunction against the Bush administration for segregating protesters at his public appearances. The Secret Service agreed to stop the practice.
Bush's appearance in West Virginia was an official visit and not a campaign event.
The lawsuit said the Ranks obtained free tickets to the July 4 event. Information they received with the tickets specified items they were not allowed to bring, such as coolers and lawn chairs, but did not say anything about clothing. Nicole Rank received an e-mail at work that said, "there is no specified dress code."
Jeff Rank said he and his wife wore the T-shirts because, "When you see the president speak on TV he is usually shown surrounded by fervent supporters only. While we wanted to hear him out and while we wanted to see him in person, we did not want to be added to the tally of Bush supporters that day."
They were not shouting or heckling, did not lie down in protest and did not resist arrest.
What part of this did you not understand? :confused:
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Originally posted by straffo
Shoot this guy , using his daughter as a political tool is more than lame.
As a father I can't understand a father corrupting his kid with politic.
yes we should shield our children from all things Bush. Don't teach them any of your values or even why you beleive in them.
There teachers are going to turn them into bleeding heart liberals anyways so why bother.
And how dare that father spend time with his girl. Shouldnt he be at work! Taxes arent going to pay themselves.
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The guy was trying to use her as a human shield. It's disgusting.
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If the kid was upset it was probably because she was exited about hat she was doing. She probably wanted to do it so as to be like her daddy. Anyone with a little kid should be able to understand that
The lowlife kerry edwards supporters needed to have their brains beaten in for their utterly disgraceful behaviour.
Or at least been arrested for assault and destruction of private property
If it werte my kid I would have opted for the former.
Some real toughguys they musta been
Doesnt matter which side your on
Ya dont mess with a little kid. Period.
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Originally posted by rpm371
The guy was trying to use her as a human shield. It's disgusting.
Three-year-old Sophia Parlock cries while seated on the shoulders of her father, Phil Parlock, after having their Bush-Cheney sign torn up by Kerry-Edwards supporters on Thursday, Sept. 16, 2004, at the Tri-State Airport in Huntington, W.Va. Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards (news - web sites) made a brief stop at the airport as he concluded his two-day bus tour to locations in West Virginia and Ohio. (AP Photo/Randy Snyder)
Well I guess Yahoo and the AP got it wrong here.
You're probably right. Big bad evil liberal democrats probably rushed the guy.....and to defend his own lazy hide picked up his daughter in front of him so their crazed bush hatedness would blind them and imediatly cause them tunelvision so they attack her sign instead of him.
what a coward :lol
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Originally posted by rpm371
The guy was trying to use her as a human shield. It's disgusting.
not as disgusting as the parents in s.f. and berkeley marching their toddlers in "antiwar" demonstrations where "bush=hitler" signs and slogans glorifying suicide bomber killings of israeli civvies are to be found. when it comes to crass and disgusting the extreme lefties have the market cornered. just compare the demonstrations at the two big conventions.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Well I guess Yahoo and the AP got it wrong here.
You're probably right. Big bad evil liberal democrats probably rushed the guy.....and to defend his own lazy hide picked up his daughter in front of him so their crazed bush hatedness would blind them and imediatly cause them tunelvision so they attack her sign instead of him.
what a coward :lol
hey theyre showing some brains though. they picked the only target they could tie in a battle of wits. :)
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Originally posted by anonymous
hey theyre showing some brains though. they picked the only target they could tie in a battle of wits. :)
:rofl
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"Using" your kids is wrong. I don't care if it's Republican, Democrat, Green, Independant, Communist or whatever. The guy had one thought on his mind, "I'll use my little girl to make sure I can be an ultra melon without anyone bothering me." His priorities are very screwed up.
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Originally posted by rpm371
"Using" your kids is wrong. I don't care if it's Republican, Democrat, Green, Independant, Communist or whatever. The guy had one thought on his mind, "I'll use my little girl to make sure I can be an ultra melon without anyone bothering me." His priorities are very screwed up.
nonsense. there is nothing saying he was acting confrontational in any way whatsoever. his daughter was holding a sign that someone didnt like and they tore it up. one person here is guilty of bad judgement and it isnt the dad. id love to hear the cries of "censorship!" if the roles were reversed. if some kid got their plo flag taken from them in some march in s.f. it would be all over a couple of tv networks and if the guy who took the flag was beaten to death the extreme left wouldnt shed a tear. their statements and reactions to several situations show that they only care for "freedom of speech" and other "rights" when the speaker or the suspect is a sworn enemy of the us govt as lead by bush.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yes we should shield our children from all things Bush. Don't teach them any of your values or even why you beleive in them.
The values you need to teach your kid have nothing to do with politics.
It's the parent who are the role-model not a stinking politician.
And this guy is just wrong ,he should have anticipated and protected his daughter ,and not have used her as a shield.
It's like driving at +100mph ,if you're not stupid you don't do that.And even if you are stupid enought to do that because you really love speed will you risk the life of your kid because you love driving fast ?
In short : his is a dumb idiot by puting his daughter at risk for nothing except his own political opinion.
For the record : do you really think this little girl do care of who will win the election ?.
Me think she care more of the latest barbie.
Originally posted by anonymous
not as disgusting as the parents in s.f. and berkeley marching their toddlers in "antiwar" demonstrations where "bush=hitler" signs and slogans glorifying suicide bomber killings of israeli civvies are to be found. when it comes to crass and disgusting the extreme lefties have the market cornered. just compare the demonstrations at the two big conventions.
Using your kid is wrong whatever are your political opinion.
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I'm with Straffo on this one.
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Forgot to add : the fact I write against the father doesn't mean in any way I agree with the democrat supporters.
Their fault is equal to the father fault IMO.
2 wrong never make 1 right.
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Originally posted by straffo
Forgot to add : the fact I write against the father doesn't mean in any way I agree with the democrat supporters.
Their fault is equal to the father fault IMO.
2 wrong never make 1 right.
This guy has done this two other times, he's some sort of publicity hound IMO.
OTOH, leading a grieving mother, who's son was killed in Iraq, away in handcuffs from the First Lady's event is OK with some of you pukes, huh?
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Originally posted by GScholz
I see a man standing among political adversaries trying to disrupt their gathering and using a child as a shield.
I'm thinking the same. It's like waving a red flag in front of a bunch of dumb bulls...but I think he knew that.
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Incidentally, this incident took place in a town where, when the local Republicans were gathered at the Huntington GOP HQ to watch GWB's acceptance speech during the convention, some unknown person fired a round through the window.
That didn't make national news, but a toddler being used as a political tool does?
Frankly, I condemn both the father and the shooter, but would probably pay money to see them square off without their children/firearm crutches.
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Originally posted by GScholz
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040916/capt.wvrs10309162250.edwards_wvrs103.jpg)
I see a man standing among political adversaries trying to disrupt their gathering and using a child as a shield.
I'm about as conservative and as loyal a Bush follower as you can get, so I'm loath to say negative things about other conservatives, etc. But I must say that I agree, somewhat, with GS here. That was one of my initial thoughts when I saw this photo. The father bears at least some culpability for this. Just sad all the way around. Poor kid will prolly relive that moment for years.:(
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Plus someone wearing a tie like that can be really sane.
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I fail to see how a little girl holding a sign up is a disruption to anything.
This wasnt a convention and she wasnt yelling and screaming during a speach
These people claiming its the fathers fault.
It's like blaming a woman for being raped.
Pure BS
Shame on you.
The people who did that to the little girl were punk lowlife animals, nothing more.
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DREDIOCK I agree with your punk comment but the father is still responsable,at least partially.
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Originally posted by slimm50
I'm about as conservative and as loyal a Bush follower as you can get, so I'm loath to say negative things about other conservatives, etc. But I must say that I agree, somewhat, with GS here. That was one of my initial thoughts when I saw this photo. The father bears at least some culpability for this. Just sad all the way around. Poor kid will prolly relive that moment for years.:(
Reguadless
You dont mess with kids.
And you dont mess with kids because of the parents.
There is no excuse for it. None
I'd feel the same way if it were a Kerry supporter.
Even hardened criminals serving life sentances dispise those who do things against kids
What they did was a disgraceful inexcusable action.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I fail to see how a little girl holding a sign up is a disruption to anything.
This wasnt a convention and she wasnt yelling and screaming during a speach
These people claiming its the fathers fault.
It's like blaming a woman for being raped.
Pure BS
Shame on you.
The people who did that to the little girl were punk lowlife animals, nothing more.
DRED, I think everyone agrees that the people who tore up the sign and traumatized the little girl are scum, but I can't help but believe the father, somewhere in the recesses of his brain, knew he was throwing red meat to a dangerous animal, and was irresponsible for dragging his little girl along and placing her in a very potentially hostile environment. Not cool!:rolleyes:
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My ass. It's like blaming a panderer for paying to have sex.
We've all seen footage of what happens to hecklers who disrupt gatherings of party supporters. If you've forgotten, perhaps you should review the mountain of photos and articles about the GOP convention.
A little girl is not old enough to vote for a reason: she's not an adult, and not capable of rationally deciding between two candidates. Her father is clearly using her here.
I don't approve of kissing babies and crap either, but at least those parents are not traumatizing the kid.
This is a milder form of packing your baby iwth you to a WTO riot, or sending your 7-year-old in full Grand Wizard regalia to a Black Panthers meeting. It's irresponsible parenting, especially in a state where now and in the past, people have not hesitated to resort to deadly force in social-political gatherings.
We're talking battleground state here in more than just a figurative sense.
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I don't care if the sign said "Tear Me Up". The actions of the people who destroyed the sign were wrong.
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Everyone has the right to free speech...It wasn't a rally...just supporters showing up at an airport...If people show up fron the opposing side then so be it...they can't get angry at that..the fact of the matter is that you DO NOT TOUCH another person or their property without permission..it may only be a campain sign..but I'd probrably file charges aginst those involved just to prove a point to those lowlives...and that bellybutton with the hat on would probrably get a punch in the mouth for that expression on his face. The sad thing is some of you guys feel the Kerry supporters were justified in using a violent act against someone who doesn't share their views...pathetic
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Everyone has the right to free speech...It wasn't a rally...just supporters showing up at an airport...If people show up fron the opposing side then so be it...they can't get angry at that..the fact of the matter is that you DO NOT TOUCH another person or their property without permission..it may only be a campain sign..but I'd probrably file charges aginst those involved just to prove a point to those lowlives...and that bellybutton with the hat on would probrably get a punch in the mouth for that expression on his face. The sad thing is some of you guys feel the Kerry supporters were justified in using a violent act against someone who doesn't share their views...pathetic
Exactly. Father or not
Actually even if the father alone without the kid had held up the sign, that still would not make it ok for him to have it taken away and torn up.
There isnt an excuse. None. Father , Kid none.
ESPECIALLY when there is a kid involved.
the Father is not in the wrong here.
Even had he been doing it alone so long as he was doing it peacefully which all indications are he was. And so he would have been well within his rights.
People do NOT have the right to take away and destroy private property be it a sign they dont agree with or a grocery list.
They wouldnt have done it if they(father and daughter) were walking down the street that way. the only reason they did it there is because they had plenty of other lemmings to back them up.
Sorry but the resoncability is with the attackers 110%not the attacked
It is the ones that tore up the sign that were not being peaceful.
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Originally posted by Martlet
He has a point though. It says a lot about a person's character when they think it's funny to see children assaulted.
She'll get over it.
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Originally posted by Sandman
She'll get over it.
Of course she will. That doesn't alter my statement, though.
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Disgusting.
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Originally posted by Dinger
Incidentally, this incident took place in a town where, when the local Republicans were gathered at the Huntington GOP HQ to watch GWB's acceptance speech during the convention, some unknown person fired a round through the window.
That didn't make national news, but a toddler being used as a political tool does?
Frankly, I condemn both the father and the shooter, but would probably pay money to see them square off without their children/firearm crutches.
What a coincidence, Mr. Parlock was there when the shooting took place.....must be some kind of serial victim or just maybe he's in the business of 'making the news'.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yes we should shield our children from all things Bush. Don't teach them any of your values or even why you beleive in them.
There teachers are going to turn them into bleeding heart liberals anyways so why bother.
And how dare that father spend time with his girl. Shouldnt he be at work! Taxes arent going to pay themselves.
-flame bait-
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First of all, that guy is a jerk bellybutton for using his child at a Democratic rally to promote his political ideals. Brain washing at a young age, plus setting the child up for hurt. He is a definition of a jerk ass.
Secondly, all those people are jerk tulips too. They should have had restraint, especially in the presence of that child.
So in conclusion, two wrongs don't make a right and arguing about one aspect or the other being more wrong in this situation makes you a jerk ass.
And thats that, jerk asses.
-SW
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Off topic/Flame bait/Personal attack
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
First of all, that guy is a jerk bellybutton for using his child at a Democratic rally to promote his political ideals. Brain washing at a young age, plus setting the child up for hurt. He is a definition of a jerk ass.
Secondly, all those people are jerk tulips too. They should have had restraint, especially in the presence of that child.
So in conclusion, two wrongs don't make a right and arguing about one aspect or the other being more wrong in this situation makes you a jerk ass.
And thats that, jerk asses.
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I agree totally. Bringing your child to that environment is a patently stupid move. It doesn't excuse the behavior of the others, though.
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Originally posted by MrLars
What a coincidence, Mr. Parlock was there when the shooting took place.....must be some kind of serial victim or just maybe he's in the business of 'making the news'.
Have to agree with MrLars here. I somehow suspect that he was pulling the real-world equivalent of a BBS troll, then started gasping and pointing when he gots the results he knew damned well he'd get. (Catelonia day, anyone?)
Anyway, this doesn't excuse the jackbooted simpletons who couldn't control their pack instinct long enough to figure out what he was up to. People are just predictable..especially the stupid ones.
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There are some people who believe that this is a first amendment issue.
This is incorrect.
If I kick your bellybutton because I do not agree with what you said, I am not violating your first amendment rights, I am committing assault and battery.
It is not a first amendment issue because Congress passed no law abridging your right to free speech and allowing or compelling me to kick your ass. I did it on my own, with no government sanction.
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The kid looks like she'd rather be at home.
Reminds me of when my mom took me with her to court house to pay something and there were guys yelling and swearing. I was a kid and I don't think I should have been there in the first place, I would have prefered to be back in the family Chysler Imperial playing with my transformers.
On the plus side, I learned new words that day.
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Guy needs to teach his kids to hold onto signs harder. (http://www.timespatriot.com/articles/091704_parlock.html)
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Great link Wilfred. Phil Parlock is a world class ultra melon with scrambled eggs. You know in his heart he hopes one of his kids actually gets hurt during these stunts so he can play it up. This guy needs his *** kicked. Using kids as pawns is a coward's tool.:mad:
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http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2004/September/18/LNtop1.htm