Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Guppy35 on September 17, 2004, 03:12:50 PM
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I was flying Knights last night and the numbers favored the Knights which made for some fairly boring flights.
So for the heckuvit I decided to fly a Mossie Day Ranger from A5 down to the Southwest corner of the map where the Bish and Rooks were having it out.
I thought maybe if I flew it on the deck and came from the opposite side as the flights headed to the fight I could catch some aircraft taking off as the real life Mossies tried to do, either catching them landing or taking off.
It was a long flight but fun as the speed is very noticable skipping over the tree tops and cruising through the valleys.
I did in fact manage to come in unnoticed on the opposite side of a Rook airfield where folks were headed out to fight the Bish. I don't think anyone saw me. Regardless I saw a 38 setting up his slow climb out headed away from me. As I had the speed I closed fast and hammered him hard, smoke and pieces raining off him as he shoved the nose down in response to my surprise. I then, in my heavy handed way tried to tuck the nose down and promptly entered that goofy Mossie spin I've seen mentioned here. I had no bombs and was less then half fuel but there was not getting out of it that low. I promptly augered in with my victim hitting the ground nearby as I did.
So first off, it was great fun just as a challenge to do something different. As I hadn't flown the AH2 Mossie I wasn't ready for that departure characteristic.
Is there a way out of it? And where did that come from? I don't remember that in the AH1 Mossie
Screenshot of early in the run under 100 feet running down the river through the mountains. Kinda made me think I was heading down the fijords in Norway for a sec :)
Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1095451416_snap1.jpg)
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Mossie prospers in the new AH2 terrain - more trees to hide amongst.
:D
Anyway, I can *sometimes* get out of the flat "zero speed" spin by killing the engines, dropping the gear, rocking the elevators a little. If that doesn't work, try playing with the power to one engine to induce something approaching a normal spin.
All this takes time and altitude, of course... Is the mossie the only AH2 plane that gets this?
Those NOE Intruder sorties are fun. Look for fields next to mountains, creep up to the top, wait for a dot to appear, then flip on "Flight of the Valkyries..." Tends to be a one-way effort though.
Cheers,
Scherf
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Definately didn't have any altitude to work with :)
Very fun to make that run though. And the terrain definately makes it more fun and more of a challenge as you don't put it on autopilot and sit back for the ride.
It was something coming over that hill, seeing the airfield and the planes in the pattern that had no idea I was there :)
Dan/Slack
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It's got the range for it now too. In AH1 it had shorter range than the Spitfire Mk IX.
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it should have allways had the range some kind of bug in AH1
iv been geting hurt alot by ack in the mossie the bird still reminds that its made out of wood!
there is only 1 other plane that gets that stall
the BF110
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This ridiculous stall issue has been around as long as the Mossie has been in AH. The ME-110 has the same problem, but not as severe. I thought it wouldn't be carried over to AH2, but it was. If the stall behaviour is realistic why doesn't it appear on other planes? I would also think that a twin engined plane would be more stable and less prone to a flat spin, also you should be able to help recovering by using differential engine power.
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the mossie have two ways of stalling. The high speed spin - that trows you all over the place, and the deep stall - the plane looses all forward speed and falls straight down but without droping the nose.
the second one is really hard to recover from because it's a ballanced condition - you need to kick the plane hard in order to make the nose drop.
I wouldn't mind it so much if other planes had difficult stalls (I think planes are too easy to recover in AH), but this is the only plane that has this and the plane enters it much too easily.
Bozon
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Yeah the mossie has some funky stalls alright.:)
The moment you enter a high speed stall you must immediatly push the stick forward with no rudder, i don't mean gently either! It's bizarre i know, but it works. You have to be quick or else it will not work, it is second nature for me when in a mossie.
Those flat spins are horrible.:( Dumping flaps and gear seems to do the trick but you need plenty of alt.
Despite this, i still love the mossie.:)