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Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: FTJR on September 19, 2004, 01:35:46 AM
No1 Sqn RAAF, Labuan 1945.

Can anyone shed light on how to save the files at 1024 in paint shop pro? Please.

Cheers

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/716_1095575562_aussiemossie.jpg)
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: SELECTOR on September 19, 2004, 11:37:52 AM
go to image...resize.. pixel size...change to 1024 x 1024 .. click ok..then save as a bitmap
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: SELECTOR on September 19, 2004, 11:50:06 AM
verynice pices by the way
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Heiliger on September 21, 2004, 07:22:12 AM
always glad to see new Mossie skins.  Great job m8!

:aok
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: FTJR on September 25, 2004, 05:53:21 PM
Selector thanks for the tip, I managed to work it out.
Heiliger thanks for the encouragement. :)

Anyway the skin is available at the skin department I've touched it up a fair bit. But how do you do fabric?

Cheers
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Replicant on September 25, 2004, 06:38:29 PM
FTJR, is that '1 Sqn' as in post WW2 1945?  Or did the RAAF keep their original squadron numbers in the SEAC?
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: thebest1 on September 25, 2004, 07:29:50 PM
FTJR,
I was gunna actually try this mossie (it was on my huge list) do u mind if i give it a shot?
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: FTJR on September 25, 2004, 10:10:55 PM
Replicant, as far as I know 1 sqn has been in continuous existance since 1916 until today.

The Best... go for it. Good Luck.

:aok
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Replicant on September 26, 2004, 03:50:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FTJR
Replicant, as far as I know 1 sqn has been in continuous existance since 1916 until today.

The Best... go for it. Good Luck.

:aok


I wasn't sure whether they renamed 1 Sqn RAAF to prevent it being confused with 1 Sqn RAF which they did with 1 Sqn RCAF - it became 401 Sqn.  If they only served in SEAC then they probably remained 1 Sqn but if they were in the northern hemisphere they would most likely have been renamed to prevent confusion.  You probably know that the RAF renamed many squadrons to cater for all RAF, RAuxAF, RCAF, RAAF, RNZAF, RNAF, SAAF, RBAF etc...
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Kev367th on September 26, 2004, 04:47:27 AM
Was playing aound with a mossie skin myself.
Am I right in assuming you cant change the spinner color?

(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/mossie.jpg)
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: FTJR on September 27, 2004, 08:42:23 PM
Sorry for the delay in the reply have been away with work....

Replicant, yeah there were a number of squadrons  with RAF codes but the where only a couple of originals.. 3 sqn (P40's/P51's) and 10 Sqn (Sunderlands) that were in the Northern hemisphere.

 The other RAAF squadrons were formed for the duration and they had 400 codes like the other commonwealth countries I suppose. Im working on a 464 sqd mossie at the moment. All the other original sqds served in the pacific.
(and I stand to be corrected, my history is  pretty rusty)


Kev, I dont know how to change the spinners if you find out please let me know. Also I dont know how to weather a wooden plane, but if wood weathers wont it fall apart?

:confused:
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Kev367th on September 27, 2004, 10:48:31 PM
Don't think the spinners are skinnable.
Lol I got the same prob..how to weather a wooden plane.

Been playing with this, I guess any paints chips would go down to the primer, whatever color that was.
Although I do believe the elveators may have been metal.

(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/mossie4.jpg)
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Guppy35 on September 28, 2004, 12:10:25 AM
The Aussie Squadrons in the Pac kept their original squadron designations.  The Mossie drivers were 1 Squadron, 9 Squadron and 87 Squadron.

some of the 87 Squadron RAAF Mossies were fighter bomber versions converted for recce work so you could do a PRU blue Aussie AH Mossie from 87 squadron and have it historically correct.

Dan/Slack
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Howitzer on September 28, 2004, 12:22:55 AM
Kev, your question aroused my curiousity, so I took a look around to see what I could find.   In almost every picture I saw, there was quite a bit of weathering where the exhaust is expelled from the engine, but I'm sure this is obvious.

If you look at this picture:  http://www.luftfahrtmuseum.com/img/620/bbm/36928.jpg

It looks like it just gets pretty faded and dirty.  If you take a look at the right wing (will be to your right as you look at it) looks pretty dirty...that might be a way to go.  Just a layer of dirt/grime on certain parts.  But you are right, don't see many paint chips or anything of the sort.

Maybe you haven't seen that picture yet.. hope it helps you.  I think maybe the invasion stripes are a little bright as they are... a dulling affect may do wonders.

Great Job though, I love it, and can't wait to fly it!

Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Kev367th on September 28, 2004, 06:03:14 PM
Redid stripes and a few other bits.
Updated pic, and uploaded it to ah-skins.

Probs-
1) You can't skin the spinners :(
2) Tip of nose gets color from belly :(

Edit - How about ozzy mossie part 2

No 5 Sqn OCU RAAF

(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/ozmos.jpg)
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Kev367th on September 30, 2004, 03:20:29 PM
Dan, your comment about the 87sqn Mossies got me searching.

(http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/raaf/87prs06.jpg)

Caption is PRU Mosquitos of 87 Sdn including A-52.

Rear one appears to be FB40/PR40 (Aussie FB VI) still with guns. Guess this would be overall PRU blue?

Checked for serial number -  A52-1 was assigned to RAAF, same plane? Any guess on the serial color?

Look closely at A52-1, just above the tire of foreground aircraft. Looks like a ventral camera window which would confirm it is one of the 6 converted FB40s.
If so you have any idea the locations of the cameras, I could add the windows/hatches.

Tried a test overall PRU blue Mossie, looks kinda cute, lol.

(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/pru.jpg)
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Guppy35 on October 06, 2004, 02:56:48 AM
Sorry Kev, I completely missed your last post on this thread.  No idea on the camera ports.  Went through all my stuff and can't find a thing.  I'm assuming the bomb bay would have been the spot for all the camera gear though so you could somewhat fake it I would think.

I like the PRU blue Mossie.  The last 1/48th Scale Mossie I built was an Aussie one with the PRU Blue.  That was a long time ago now but it's still on the shelf :)

Dan/Slack
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Replicant on October 06, 2004, 04:05:58 AM
The usual location for the cameras was in the hatch, and front of the bomb bays.  As your pics are of the FB variant I can only assume they'd only be in the bomb bay.

The two 'port holes' on the bomb bays I guess are for the cameras?
(http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/images/mossieprmkiv.jpg)

You can see the holes in the bomb bay doors better below (port side)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/44_1097053502_protmossie.jpg)
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: FTJR on October 06, 2004, 04:52:31 AM
Dont know if this helps guys

A52-1, -3, -5, -11 completed as FB40's/FB VI

A52 -2, -4, -6,-7, -9 completed as PR40's

A52 -8, -10 completed as Mk 43's

My book has only a reference to the PR 16 of 87 PR Flight, 1944 and it states "RAAF azure blue overall, black serial"

In the marks and model discription states:

PR40: Australian unarmed PR version of FB40.

The Book is "Beaufort, Beaufighter and Mosquito in Australian Service"

Hope it is of some benefit
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: Kev367th on October 06, 2004, 10:43:37 AM
Thanks guys.
FTJR - Does it tell you which 6 were converted from FB40 to PR40s?
In the pic I posted A52-1 definately still has its guns, the caption was something like "xxxSqn PRU Mosquitos".
Title: Aussie Mossie
Post by: FTJR on October 06, 2004, 08:16:05 PM
Kev, no only what I stated above.

 Also refering to you statement about above -1 wheel in the photo, the only thing I can see is the open crew access door, yes it does have guns unlike the mossie in the foreground which appears to me to have its cannons capped.

Sorry I cant be of more help