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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on September 23, 2004, 10:21:29 AM
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Hmmm... noticed that the vB Code and [IMG] Code are off. New policy?
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With the recent abuses perpetrated in this forum, we elected to disable them. It is only in the O'Club for right now.
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Okay.
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Any chance at bringing 'em back and just punishing the abusers? <-- since I'm me, I'd like to make it clear that's serious, and not sarcastic.
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*stares at Sand's avatard* ... thank cod, the avatards are still turned on!
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You want Skuzzy to flagellate you TOB? :eek:
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Only if he uses a lichorice whip. :D
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Originally posted by SOB
Any chance at bringing 'em back and just punishing the abusers? <-- since I'm me, I'd like to make it clear that's serious, and not sarcastic.
That's un-American. In this country, we like to restrict everyone. ;)
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Don't get me started... again.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=120263
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Hehe... I'm with ya.
In all fairness to Skuzzy, I'm not surprised.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
With the recent abuses perpetrated in this forum, we elected to disable them. It is only in the O'Club for right now.
its not right for few punish all
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I'll be back when sanity breaks out.
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Adios MT ;)
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I agree with the sentiment ramzey. Unfortunately, it is always a day late to correct an abuser, as they knowingly post after we have closed for the day.
They are even so bold as to state it in the post. Banning is just a lousy way to deal with the situation. It is, at best, temporary and it also prevents legitimate users from reaching the board due to random IP addresses.
The best way to deal with this situation is for everyone to accept we will not tolerate abuse of our board. If you do not agree with the rules as they are posted, then simply leave.
People can flame me all they like. I am just the messenger doing something that should not have to be done.
This may be temporary. We have a CON to handle and would like to possibly have a little fun while we are at it. Those predisposed to ruin it can look somewhere else.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'll be back when sanity breaks out.
It's been nice reading ya:)
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"We have a CON to handle and would like to possibly have a little fun...."
Hope it's a great time. Wish I could have attended.
Why not just remove the OT forum till Monday? Seriously.
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"This may be temporary. We have a CON to handle and would like to possibly have a little fun while we are at it. Those predisposed to ruin it can look somewhere else."
Can't argue with that...hell, shut the BB down for the duration of the con if need be. People who travelled all that way deserve your attention, and I'm sure y'all need a drink or three or four or... :D
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Originally posted by SOB
"Can't argue with that...hell, shut the BB down for the duration of the con if need be. People who travelled all that way deserve your attention, and I'm sure y'all need a drink or three or four or... :D
What he^^ said. Enjoy the next 4 days Skuzzy.
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Westy, that would be extreme. I would rather not have to do anything and trust people would just have good solid discussions about topics, without having to resort to using inappropriate materials.
Seems there will always be those that just cannot leave it alone though. OY!
SOB, Rip, thanks. You know how these things go, but will try to have some fun. Heck, I am bringing my own computer. Hope I have a chance to use it. :D
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Westy, that would be extreme. I would rather not have to do anything and trust people would just have good solid discussions about topics, without having to resort to using inappropriate materials.
Seems there will always be those that just cannot leave it alone though. OY!
SOB, Rip, thanks. You know how these things go, but will try to have some fun. Heck, I am bringing my own computer. Hope I have a chance to use it. :D
Skuzzy, sending you email to re-activate my account. Can I do this online to get my old handle? I want to be sure to be online with you this weekend in between soccer games! (And the rains have began, more time indoors this time of year)
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Skuzzy, you could always give me the ability to remove links, I'd work on the weekends when ever I'm on the forums, and I'd do it for free..
And trust me, I wouldn't abuse it, it's the least I can do besides subscribing to AH for the work you guys have done for us...
PS:
A new computer would be nice.. ;)
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I am enjoying the lack of post a link with little comment type posts.
However would not a solution to this problem be allowing people who have made a certain number of posts and been on the group a set amount of time vB code privliges? Ie you need to earn the right to post links?
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Originally posted by Habu
I am enjoying the lack of post a link with little comment type posts.
However would not a solution to this problem be allowing people who have made a certain number of posts and been on the group a set amount of time vB code privliges? Ie you need to earn the right to post links?
hehe Imagine all the more SPAM that would cause..
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Originally posted by Habu
I am enjoying the lack of post a link with little comment type posts.
However would not a solution to this problem be allowing people who have made a certain number of posts and been on the group a set amount of time vB code privliges? Ie you need to earn the right to post links?
the person who posted the link to the beheading video had @1400 posts. i knew there would be wrath over that because if you cant link to guys shooting rodents then linking to a guy getting his head cut off while living was way too far. just think of the phone calls they would have gotten if some teenagers folks heard that their kid saw it on the AH BBS. i'm surprised they didn't pull the plug on the o'club for awhile.
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The link was to a site where the videos were offered. That is not the same as directly linking to the video.
Someone would have to go there and then click on the links to see them. I get porno spam email that is the same. I don't blame my ISP for corrupting my family. To get the content you have to go to the site, subscribe then download it. However if someone posted pictures that were under a misleading header then I have a problem with that.
There is a difference.
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am I the only one who finds it funny, that in a thread where the topic is the code not being on, people are still trying to use the code to quote each other?
just asking.
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Hit the quote button... it inserts the code. It's still easier than CTRL-C, CTRL-V, but it's not as pretty.
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"However would not a solution to this problem be allowing people who have made a certain number of posts and been on the group a set amount of time vB code privliges? Ie you need to earn the right to post links? "
WHAT MAKE THE PEOPLE MODERATE THERE PEERS!!! what a crazy crazy idea. why it ruins the entire forum dictatorship that must be carefully preserved.
DETH TO THE INFIDEL!!!
;) :p
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
This may be temporary. We have a CON to handle and would like to possibly have a little fun while we are at it. Those predisposed to ruin it can look somewhere else. [/B]
Cry me a river Skuzzy.
You cant have fun at the con because of the O-club?
You need to step back from the computer and take a vacation.
You are seeing things. Or reading to much into things.
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So Maniac, you have my job description handy? Sure sounds like you know far more about what I am suppose to do than me.
If moderating this board has been dropped from my job description, I wish someone would tell me. It sure would make my job a lot more enjoyable.
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Roy, just shut doown everything except announcment for a week
maybe they can get ride of bad habbits:)
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SKuzzy,
Call me crazy but the other boards that I frequent have more than a few moderators.
Keep in mind this is just a friendly sudgestion, its probably been tried allready, but what about appointing a few of the more level headed daily vistiters of this board as moderators and giving them the "power" to moderate and lock threads?
Like I said just a friendly sudgestion. I know you guys are busy and this would require some actual planning and guidlines and such but just an Idea.
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Ripsnort called me a bad name.
Hey SKuzzy, have a great time at the CON.
PLEASE Tell Yankee, I said Hello
PLEASE tell Natedog He's a PUTZ and STILL owes me a hellfire beer, AND I still want it!
NUTTZ
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Westy, that would be extreme. I would rather not have to do anything and trust people would just have good solid discussions about topics, without having to resort to using inappropriate materials.
Seems there will always be those that just cannot leave it alone though. OY!
SOB, Rip, thanks. You know how these things go, but will try to have some fun. Heck, I am bringing my own computer. Hope I have a chance to use it. :D
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I'll volunteer to be a moderator! Send me the powers ( insert evil MUUUUHHAHAHAA here) and I wouldn't abuse the powers given to me. really... I wouldn't.
I'm Unbias:
Never got into a kerry/bush debate.
somewhat knowledgeable about automobiles.
Isn't anti-France ( I ALWAYS supersize my french fries)
I never snicker at bad comb-overs
I don't care that 4 outta 5 posters prefer going "commando" over boxers.
I never have surcomvented the language filter ( remembering my letter to HiTech)
I've never had 1 sig line , let alone over 3 lines.
I am paper trained.
Don't care if USA is refered to as "Northern Mexico".
I do own a gun, but don't own any ammo, So I'm PRO AND CON:)
I spell slightly better than HiTech, but am not as good looking as YANKEE.
I have all my hair, but will shave it bald on a bet.
I am not afraid to wear a striped tie with plaid pants.
ALL of my post were HIGHLY intelegent post, well though out, with perfect sentence structure.
I can cook, clean, and sew.
I know the difference between a salad fork and a soup spoon.
I would believe at first glance I would be a PERFECT candidate, I only have one downfall that MAY take me out of the running... I put beans in my chili:(
NUTTZ
Originally posted by Gunslinger
SKuzzy,
Call me crazy but the other boards that I frequent have more than a few moderators.
Keep in mind this is just a friendly sudgestion, its probably been tried allready, but what about appointing a few of the more level headed daily vistiters of this board as moderators and giving them the "power" to moderate and lock threads?
Like I said just a friendly sudgestion. I know you guys are busy and this would require some actual planning and guidlines and such but just an Idea.
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
I have all my hair, but will shave it bald on a bet.
NUTTZ
Bet ya your hair Scuzzy dont make ya moderator ;)
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LOL! It seems there is no shortage of beer. :D
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
LOL! It seems there is no shortage of beer. :D
skuzzy discriminates against those that frequent the spirits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JK
I would so love to go the CON this year. I erks me that I moved from sherman, tx not to long ago and used to work in carrolton....I'd be plenty able to go....but alas I did not realize the joys of AH then.
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I cant believe there is such an uproar over this, I mean with the amount of copy and paste that goes on here this is not a big stretch.
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So Maniac, you have my job description handy? Sure sounds like you know far more about what I am suppose to do than me.
I can't see how making the HTC BBS look broken, unprofessional, and read like hell is a clever move. Maybe we should discuss your job Skuzzy.
fluff'ng up the BBS to make a point? We need a new moderator with thicker skin that won't make HTC look like a CheckSix Forum moderator that got his hyman broken with some silly beheading link.
I hate the Il-2 BBS because of the sigs, and always enjoyed how HTC made a good platform for discussion, and a good BBS . But breaking the BBS on purpose?
I might not know anything about your job, but I'm guessing you could do better.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
With the recent abuses perpetrated in this forum, we elected to disable them. It is only in the O'Club for right now.
Not sure if I understand how disabling vB code stops abuse if your meaning personal abuse, as the personal insults still fly. Or is that abuse as in posting negative images, like Pacific Fighters?
...-Gixer
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Ain't this just sad?
It's bad enough people come in the OC and get out of hand, forcing Skuzzy to moderate (no doubt he's got much better things to do, but somebody HAS to do it).
But then we have some "people" who have to insult Skuzzy for having to do a job no one else REALLY wants.
I've come to believe that the main reason (maybe even the only reason) the OC even exists is to keep the garbage out of the regular forums.
You gotta figure some losers have sunk to a new low to force Skuzzy to turn off the vB code. Sheesh, what a load of crap.
Wonder who's worse, the losers that caused the vB code to be turned off, or the losers that demand their "right' to have a less moderated forum.
Hey, here's an idea: Don't like the way they moderate this forum? Leave! Start yer own, see how well it works out, and how much fun it is. Don't bother to come back and let us know.
I suppose this may get moderated, I hate to give Skuzzy something else to do, but what the HELL.
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Originally posted by Gixer
Not sure if I understand how disabling vB code stops abuse if your meaning personal abuse, as the personal insults still fly. Or is that abuse as in posting negative images, like Pacific Fighters?
...-Gixer
It had nothing to do with personal attacks and insults, it had everything to do with links to offensive material being posted. Disabling vB code eliminates the ability to post links. Shame it came to this. Wasn't hard to see it coming though.
Sadly, despite HTC posting REPEATEDLY about the level of decorum they wish to maintain, some people don't learn, or violate the rules intentionally. Then we have those who feel they must insult the staff for being forced to do their job. Great crowd.
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Well, actually, the only thing it really helps with is inappropriate images. Inappropriate URLs can be posted, all you have to do is c-n-p them to your address bar. And although disabling the vbcode during the con is certainly understandable, it seems like an extreme solution to the problem in the long run. If it needs to happen, can't image posting be disabled, or does vBulletin not have that as an option?
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Well, theres your Union steward Skuzzy, Captain Kneepad- ExtraDramatic.
Still seems pretty easy to me. Ignore a bad link, ban the abuser, and don't make the BBS look like a Harry High School run BBS representing a Pro Company.
Just saying.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Well, theres your Union steward Skuzzy, Captain Kneepad- ExtraDramatic.
Still seems pretty easy to me. Ignore a bad link, ban the abuser, and don't make the BBS look like a Harry High School run BBS representing a Pro Company.
Just saying.
edited for inflammatory content. To save someone else the trouble.
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Windem up, and watch them go... Zzzzzingg!
Im not a pitiful little hopeless loser, I love Jesus, Fatty, and SOB.
I like pancakes with peanutbutter best, while listening to DIO. Sometimes Slayer, and "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" makes me cry every time.
Weird, I know.
Edit- I also believe in Wisconsin, the Packers, and Ted Nugent. There- I'm done.
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LOL, I'm pretty sure Creamo is a treasure, insults and all. And I'm not just saying that because he loves me . . . well, maybe just a little.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Well, in your case Creamo, if the shoe fits, wear it. If you don't like how the board looks, take a hike. Thanks for proving my point perfectly. The best you can offer is to make pitiful juvenile personal attacks. Perfect example of why Skuzzy has to moderate the board. Because pitiful little hopeless losers like you can't act like they have any decency or maturity about them. Thank you again for being a shining example of exactly what is wrong with the boards that causes the staff to resort to heavy handed moderation. You are truly an inspiration to every low brow loser everywhere.
Virgil,
Maybe you should look at what you were saying before and just posted. Creamo made a comment on the board and then you let fly with the personal insults yourself.
If your going to preach about a higher level of standards on a bbs atleast try and keep to them yourself.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
...Thanks for proving my point perfectly. The best you can offer is to make pitiful juvenile personal attacks...
...Because pitiful little hopeless losers like you can't act like they have any decency or maturity about them...
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That's just awesome. You proved your point perfectly.
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Originally posted by Gixer
Virgil,
Maybe you should look at what you were saying before and just posted. Creamo made a comment on the board and then you let fly with the personal insults yourself.
If your going to preach about a higher level of standards on a bbs atleast try and keep to them yourself.
...-Gixer
Oh, perhaps you missed the part where Creamo made a personal attack on me, or maybe you just ignored it (here's a hint : "captain knee pad") (uh, would you like me to explain the connotations, or can you figure that out for yourself?)
Here in the South, we call responses like Creamo's personal attack "hit dog hollers", meaning he felt he fit the description in the original post (probably good judgement on his part) so he felt he had to respond, with a personal attack, of course. I didn't start the personal attack, I merely responded in kind, which in itself was wrong, I even admit that. Perhaps you might consider reading a little closer before you make assumptions.
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YO Roy "Skuzzy" Neese!!
<> sir, GREAT job at the CON. i dont know about the rest of the attendees, but i was not "in a proper place" to visit the o'club the whole time down there (and i think you tried Guns Mead so you knwo what im talking about LMFAO)...
sorry to see you had to take time out while there to moderate the BBS.
really enjoyed talking with you,and sorry we didn't hook up to work out that SB problem then using my PC as an example on saturday.
PS to 1/2 the BBS guys, have you meet Skuzzy in person? if not, dude he's a cool guy. one of those "im here to help you" people that are rare. God forbid i ever get on his bad side, and lose an open dialogue with such a helping fellow.
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Originally posted by Furious
^^^
That's just awesome. You proved your point perfectly.
Yes, I certainly did. Creamo decided to take a personal shot at me, and I did the same thing in return, proving my point perfectly. I could have, and should have, ignored it. Human nature at its worst. I'm at least partially human, so sue me.
But then I wasn't insulting Skuzzy, or anyone else, because they were forced to do their job. You couldn't GIVE me his job. And this thread, my reply included, is a perfect example of why. So you won't see me be so arrogant as to insult him for doing a job I wouldn't have. I find it a more than a little arrogant, assinine, and absurd for anyone, especially those who are at times guilty of the very offenses that force moderation, myself included, to insult Skuzzy or tell him how to do his job. It's like running three redlights and then calling the cop who writes you a ticket a pig for doing his job. It's just plain stupid.
The way I look at it, and having been guilty of causing it at times myself, the people on this board have brought heavy handed moderation on themselves, and they have no one to blame but themselves. Hey, they just put rules up a month ago and made them sticky. And still people are arrogant and stupid, and ignore the rules. Damned near everyone on these boards has at least posted in a thread they knew was unacceptable. Even all those "IN" posts are part of the problem. Everyone here knows damned well people post those threads just to see how many people with either reply in kind, or reply with "IN", in some form or another. Everyone knew this was coming, and few changed their habits. So now everyone gets to live with the consequences. Well, ain't that just tough.
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I have never posted a thread that was unacceptable, at least I got that much. Hard to tell though what your quoting, as the BBS is hosed, and looks like chit, a bunch of ^^^^<>[] garbage the moderator insisted on. Whatever HTC wants to convey.
Me? I'd take that job as a hobby, but I went to college. Still, OK, you post a beheading video, you are banned. I go to the bar. You post porn, I ban you and I go to work. I come home, and sleep all day. The BBS isn't all fluffied up. Your sig is too long? I say "Hey, your sig is too long." Then I make a samich. If you don't make it smaller, I make a chocolate malt, then make sure your a good person, and made your sig smaller. If not? I ban you.
Pretty much a good thing, and easier than my normal workload.
I could get blasted on Pabst and F up the BBS just to make a point... well, no. Thad be stupid.
Am I hired?
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Read Skuzzy's posts above about why banning doesn't work. Turns into "whack the mole". Causes other legitimate members to have problems logging on.
Ever made an "IN" post? Ever posted a personal attack? Ever made any post at all in a thread that was deemed unacceptable, when you knew it would be? You don't have to be the originator of a bad thread to be part of the problem.
Evidently Skuzzy was only one part of the decision to turn off vB code. Maybe even a small part of it. meaning it came from "upstairs" (note where Skuzzy said he was "the messenger"). That means that Skuzzy was the person who executed the policies of someone else. So if you had to do his job, you couldn't very well do it much different after all. That is, if you wanted to keep the job. Not so easy to do things a lot differently when someone else is telling you what they want done and how. Even if you have some part in those decisions.
Looks like you don't get the job, despite the "college education".:rolleyes:
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I am Godzilla! You are Japan!
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Originally posted by Creamo
I am Godzilla! You are Japan!
LOL
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Skuzzy is cool, but no VB 5uxx0r5. FIXEE FIXEE PREASE!!!! GOJIRA!!!
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**** you, Creamo. I thought we were in love too.
You are dead to me.
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I still don't see what disabling the vB code did other than make the posts broke.
People still attempted to quote each other, and others still tried to post [img] tags for images.
Maybe it was to find out who the retards were and block them from the BBS?
-SW