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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: beet1e on September 26, 2004, 05:15:38 AM
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People play AH differently. Some are pure gamers, while others are dedicated simmers and seek a more immersive experience. In the range 0-10, where do you place yourself on this horizontal scale?
I'll define the limits: - 0 - total gamer, no real interst in WW2 - likes to play and see stuff blow up. A fuel porker in AH1, perhaps. Never flown in RL, so will exploit the flight model and game the game in any possible way. Will use any old plane (as long as it's an LA7 - LOL)
- 10 - dedicated simmer. Would like a game which had 8 hour bombing missions, no icons, full engine management including prop governors and mixture controls, hand cranking of the emergency gear extension...
Please give a single answer, which must be a numeric integer in the range 0-10. No answers like 2/3, please.
We'll get DMF to calculate the averages. He's good at that - an average sort of guy! :lol;)
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7
Your poll is already broken...
Not everyone reads the forums.
Not everyone reads the discussion forum.
Fewer yet, read your posts.
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on your 6... regardless of "type"
:D
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These threads are stupid. You / we are all gamers. AH is a game, WB's is a game, FB is a game, and WWIIOL is a game. They are all games that "simulate" nothing.
Those of you who play these games and think you are "simulating" anything are delusional. Nothing you do is "more realistic” or "more admirable" then the next guy.
The only two categories that matter to me are "fun gamers" and "unfun gamers". However, just like your "classifications" mine are subjective as well. I will say that in my experience the most "unfun" player is the one who claims to be the most avid "simmer".
Have fun anyway you find it just don’t assume others are looking for the same thing as you.
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Ignore WOTAN he was neglected as a child...
I'm an 8
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You have your definitions all screwed up. :D
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<-- Agree with Wotan. :eek:
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Your rating scale does not cover all possibilities.
In my case, I could care less about the "strat" game / missions / squads. I am interesting in maneuvering combats with small numbers of opponents.
What this means for your poll is that I am interested in a fair amount of realism, but only in a selected area. Once in the maneuvering combat I crave, realism is desirable, but not flying an 8-hour mission to get there. Also, certain aspects of realism (like extreme stress, death, etc.) do not appeal to me.
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8-2% of the time -sober
5-80% of the time-bored
1-18% of the time-drunk
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Well, FiLtH, looks like you need to move some of your time from the 2nd category to the 3rd. :-)
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Originally posted by beet1e
We'll get DMF to calculate the averages. He's good at that - an average sort of guy! :lol;)
In statistics we refer to the average as the mean. As such, you can more appropriately call me a mean sort of guy.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Can't discount deviants... errr deviance....
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8.5
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What Wonton said.
And if I might add a little something of my own here.
Get a life. :)
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how would you classify someone who is a 10 on wanting the planes and FM's and gunnery and damage to be as close to real as possible but is a 1 or less on wanting realistic WWII experiance.
I am a 10 on wanting a good game experiance but a 1 on wanting it to use no realistic gunnery or FM's or planes.
I am a 10/1 on sim and 10/1 on game
sorry beet but there is no other way to explain what I want. your scale has absolutely no relevance to the way I play.
lazs
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Delirium - poll broken? I never said it was a poll, just a question. But it has just passed 200 viewings since I posted it this morning. :aok
Wotan said in an earlier thread I am not going to argue with those who will come and say things like “I prefer smart flying” and “why should I T’n’B at tree top level”. That’s all just a lot of BS. They are other ways to fight besides simply "pull stick to belly” and” fly at 30k for some bore and ZZZZ”. If they are under the delusion that there is nothing else then they are in worse shape then I thought.
...and in THIS thread then said Have fun anyway you find it just don’t assume others are looking for the same thing as you.
LOL! Hope you can follow your own advice, matey! :lol :rofl
Hehe, looks like I hit a few raw nerves in my gamer definition. Just checked y'all's stats - quite a few LA7 dweebs amongst those who replied. ;):p
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Originally posted by lazs2
how would you classify someone who is a 10 on wanting the planes and FM's and gunnery and damage to be as close to real as possible but is a 1 or less on wanting realistic WWII experiance.
An aerial Quakehead. But hey, the AH software caters to them - just as long as you don't mind your X-wing starfighters having WW2 names.
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:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by beet1e
An aerial Quakehead. But hey, the AH software caters to them - just as long as you don't mind your X-wing starfighters having WW2 names.
He said he wants the physics models to be as real as possible...
I am in the same category. Real physics, not real war. Which is really what this is shooting for I think. Flight sim, war game.
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9 (Keep the bomber missions under 5 hours :p )
MRPLUTO
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i'm a sim'er who loves playing this game
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7
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Originally posted by beet1e
Delirium - poll broken? I never said it was a poll, just a question. But it has just passed 200 viewings since I posted it this morning. :aok
Wotan said in an earlier thread ...and in THIS thread then said LOL! Hope you can follow your own advice, matey! :lol :rofl
Hehe, looks like I hit a few raw nerves in my gamer definition. Just checked y'all's stats - quite a few LA7 dweebs amongst those who replied. ;):p
I still call timid flyers boring and no fun. They can fly how they want and I can call umm as I see them. I don't tell them "you don't fly historically" or "you must fly my way". I judge each individual engagement for what it is; fun or unfun.
The difference between you is I don’t start threads like this over and over as if there was some real point behind them. I reply in my share and I have np telling some one they suck or they are boring.
Besides my quote from that other thread and my reply in this one are not inconsistent, they compliment each other nicely.
You talking about what planes other fly is the real joke. You have as many p51d sorties under belt as anyone. That is the most "unfun" plane in the game. At least the la7 typically will fight.
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beet you've made some interesting and somewhat stimulating threads in the past, but besides that generic neutral opening post your replies are stupid.
Your quote of Wotan is not contradictory and lazs' as much a quakehead as you're a sky accounting gamer...
pott meat kedle?
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Well, I think I can share beetle's thoughts, nevertheless I think Wotan is right saying we are all just gamers.
Let's say there are some categories of gamers, no one better than others, but with different wiews of playing and different things to ask a sim/game.
Let's put in this way, if it can help:
If AH was a F1 simulation game, would you try to finish your race or would you go crashing here and there, given that "I cant really die, in this car, etc.... and it is more fun , running all race its so boring...." ??
Guess I know..... ;)
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Originally posted by MRPLUTO
9 (Keep the bomber missions under 5 hours :p )
MRPLUTO
aye
probably a 7 here, dont want to be manaualy controling EVERYTHING in the planes, nor do i want to be hands on stick for 100% of the flight, etc.
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8
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Originally posted by moot
beet you've made some interesting and somewhat stimulating threads in the past, but besides that generic neutral opening post your replies are stupid.
Your quote of Wotan is not contradictory and lazs' as much a quakehead as you're a sky accounting gamer...
pott meat kedle?
content de te voir par ici! J'aime bien ta poste.:aok
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pott meat kedle?
Nah, its something that someone has been smoking too much of. :)
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You need two questions in your survey, Beetle, since you're actually trying to measure two dimensions rather than one. The first concerns flight model fidelity and how important players consider it, and the second one centers around realism in gameplay.
As it stands, you have coupled attitudes toward gameplay and flight model dynamics together when they probably don't go hand-in-hand. Expect either inaccurate results or people not answering because you don't present a choice that fits with what they believe.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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isn't that what I said? course... you said it better. another loaded beetle survey... he wants an answer so he crafts a survey that is basicly..
"do you still beat your wife?"
lazs
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Log(10)...
:p
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Closed do to flame bait of the original loaded question