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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on September 26, 2004, 10:26:20 PM
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Local news reported that Vaught workers voted 93% to authorize a strike in Dallas. They have a mandatory 7 day cooling off period before they walk at midnight next sunday. If so it will stop production at Boeing, Lockheed, Sikorski and Airbus. It's all over cutting overtime and health insurance increases. These guys make outrageous salaries, have solid gold insurance and they are willing to walk out because the cost of living has gone up? Can't say I agree with this one.
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Have only been in U.S for about a year so must be eduacted on this fact that you would allow a major supporter of your military production to strike, in a time of world crisis, if wrong please correct.
thanks
M. Ossada
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I don't think the govt has control over contracters in this fasion. I know certain unions arent permitted to strike....federal workers being one of them.
RPM isnt too specific on this but it might also be mostly airliner type stuff and non military.
If times are tough for a company unions need to comprimise and that just might mean cuts. Same goes for the company....CEOs don't need million dollar bonuses if they're going in the tank.
I see more unions care more about the "union" than they do the workers jobs or the workers themselves.
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Ahh I see I think at least. so the government does not have the right to force work in military type industries in times of conflict here.
I heard a while ago I think Reagen did something with Aircraft Controlers would this action have any thing to do with this i.e
need for produiction of essiantial military hardware?
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Originally posted by mossada
Ahh I see I think at least. so the government does not have the right to force work in military type industries in times of conflict here.
I heard a while ago I think Reagen did something with Aircraft Controlers would this action have any thing to do with this i.e
need for produiction of essiantial military hardware?
Yes you are correct....In the 80s Air traffic controllers went on strike and reagen essentially fired them. They are union but are federal workers (FAA) and are not aloud to strike.
some police and fire employees are like this as well but some arent.
In this case if these guys were working on military contracts the govt holds the company accountable for fullfilment of the contract....if they don't they are in breach, its that simple usually.
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Like everything else, what you'll read in the standard media about this will be inaccurate.
You want to know the issues? Ask a guy that has to vote on whether or not to risk his job and his families security on the result.
The media rarely, if ever, gets it right in these cases.
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Vought workers vote to strike, decline to set walkout date
Associated Press
DALLAS - Workers at Vought Aircraft Industries Inc. voted Sunday to strike, but plan to keep working while negotiations on a new contract continue.
Most of the members of Local 848 of the United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America voted to strike, with 1,163 casting yes ballot. Only 73 members voted no.
No strike date was set.
Company officials declined to discuss issues in the talks, which fell apart last week. Dallas-based Vought is owned by a private investment firm, the Carlyle Group.
"We're disappointed in the outcome," Vought spokeswoman Lynne Warne said in a story in Sunday's online edition of The Dallas Morning News. "We thought we offered a fair and equitable offer. We'll continue to communicate with union leadership."
Gene Lantz, editor of the union newsletter, said members were most concerned about health-care expenses.
"I was interviewing people as they came out of the vote, and almost nothing they said was printable," he said.
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That's about the only story I can find. KTVT didn't archive the story they ran last night. It detailed the projects that would be affected, the JSF and Sikorski's new helo were the primary military projects that would come to a halt. They didn't detail the civilian projects.
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Originally posted by rpm371
Local news reported that Vaught workers voted 93% to authorize a strike in Dallas. They have a mandatory 7 day cooling off period before they walk at midnight next sunday. If so it will stop production at Boeing, Lockheed, Sikorski and Airbus. It's all over cutting overtime and health insurance increases. These guys make outrageous salaries, have solid gold insurance and they are willing to walk out because the cost of living has gone up? Can't say I agree with this one.
what's an outrageous salary? I've made good money at times but I've never known a guy who signs the back of the payroll check to get an outrageous amount.
you say it's only because the cost of living has gone up, but then you admit they also are cutting their OT(which = cutting pay), and asking them to pay a bigger amount on their health care.
so really it's about the cost of living going up, while their wages fall, and the company taking a bigger piece of the smaller check so their families can still see a DR when needed.
not all strikes are needed, but if you get a 93% strike vote it's likely well justified.
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There were strikes at defense contractors in WWII also. I seem to recall that the P-51 was held up by a strike at North American.
This could be an election year stunt.