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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SunTracker on September 27, 2004, 03:30:50 AM
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Heres the three biggest issues that will decide my vote:
(1) Environmental protection- The oceans are declining...fast. Alot more research is needed for sustainable harvest.
(2) Stem cell research- A cure for diabetes, alzheimers, paralysis, and other diseases is probably in stem cell research.
(3) Growth of U.S. economy (in technological areas)- I really like Bush's initiative with space exploration and fuel cell cars. Think it will give the U.S. more of an edge in technology again.
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WRT to #1 you mean fish harvests?
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Yes on fish harvests.
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Sounds like good priorities SunTracker. The two you have on top is something i look for when voting here too.
Economic growth is also important to me, but not at the expense of your first priority.
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1) I dont know about fishing policies by either of the candidates.
2) Kerry is for more extensive stem cell research. But somehow I feel that Bush's stance on it is being used as a wedge issue during the election to draw out his religious supporters to vote.
3) I think Bush is the better choice for business and economic growth.
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John Kerrys environmental policy
http://www.independentsforkerry.org/uploads/media/issue-environment.html
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1) Federal government's record deficit - reckless, harmful to our long term future.
2) Jobs/the economy/offshoring - I disagree that offshoring is good for our economy, that hamburger flipping can be considered 'manufacturing', and feel bad for all the hardworking Americans who recently lost the right to overtime pay (my wife included).
3) Iraq - what a friggin' mess
4) Healthcare/prescription drug price gouging - seems like a great percentage of the highest paid CEOs are always from healthcare-related companies - yet we lag behind all other industrialized countries in providing healthcare for our population, we gouge seniors on fixed income for drugs necessary to maintain their health, and I understand that healthcare benefit costs are one of the reasons job growth has been so sluggish. Lots of room for change/reform here.
5) Energy independence - tired of being held hostage to a region of the earth filled with such wackos.
6) Campaign/Election Reform - big money has too much influence in government. With that, and the last election fiasco I'm losing confidence in our democracy.
I'm not swayed a bit by President Bush's lip service to fuel cell cars or space exploration. I have more faith in what Honda, Toyota and Ford are accomplishing on their own, right now, with hybrid vehicles.
Issues absolutely off my radar: Gay marriage, gun control, abortion, and flag burning amendents.
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Oboe pretty much nailed it for me.
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security and having the stomach to blast the hell out of them after the next 9/11 - the rest means zip without it
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Just as long as we're blasting the hell out of the right "them", I'm all for it.
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guns and Hot Rods... and les socialism and less government intrusion in my life... I will have to vote against the democrat socialist in this race.
socialist programs hurt us forever and strengthen government.
lazs
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The only issue I'm concerned with is McDonalds. For too long have incompetent parents, and people with a lack of self control, been subjected to the delicious fatty foods that McDonalds forces upon society and into the mouths of those that don't know when to stop.
We must force a healthy diet upon these lazy and those lacking the self control to not become over-indulgent. Time for McDonalds to drop the Big Mac, Double quarter pounders, and double cheeseburgers. They need to offer more salads, and instead of winning free meals, instead win a free month at a legitimate gymnastics studio with a full line of workout equipment.
For too long has this pandemic been allowed to expand our children's girth. We must fight the invisible menace that's terrorizing our youth, and self-indulgent.
This physique terrorism must be stopped now!
-SW
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sooo.... yu will be joining the women in voting for kerrie?
lazs
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Not all women lazs, my wife tells me that according to polls the majority of married women plan to vote for Bush.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/polls/2004-08-25-female-vote_x.htm
hmmm, unmarried women will vote Kerry by 2-1
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I saw a bumper sticker today. It confused me.
It said, "Visualise one term".. I thought it said team. Made sense if it was one team. One term, well, it kind of made sense. But team would have been better.
Underneath that, it said "Lick Bush in 04". I thought it said Kick Bush, kick Bush sounds better. It's not all rooted in the deep mysteries of licking Bush. Who would want to lick Bush anyway? That doesn't seem very fun.
Then I realised it was a chick driving the car, she looked dykish. Then it all clicked.
-SW
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Ya know... I told you in the beggining that the reason kerrie would do poorly was because he was...... ugly.. yep, the women of America allways vote liberal democrat socialist unless.... the candidate is butt ugly. The liberals can't win without the womens support and the women don't turn out for the ugly guys or guys with facial hair.
seems kinda anti climactioc when ya boil it down like that but....
lazs
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According to that article in USA Today it's primarily a choice between physical safety vs financial security for women. The single women want more financial security that's offered by social programs while those with financial security want the safety from terrorism apparently offered by conservatives. No surprises here.
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Originally posted by AKIron
According to that article in USA Today it's primarily a choice between physical safety vs financial security for women. The single women want more financial security that's offered by social programs while those with financial security want the safety from terrorism apparently offered by conservatives. No surprises here.
Makes sense.
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yep... just coincidence that women allways vote democrat socialist when he is good looking and against him when he is not.
lazs
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To be fair lazs you should consider that if there were two women running how many men would choose based on appearance.
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1) taxes
2) less government
3) more energy independence
just a side note, I don't see why when we are at war with "terrorism" that everyone must associate it with just Al Queda, and I despise the terms "ties to al queda". The massacre at the russian school for instance, wether they have "ties" or not I could care less it was barbaric. Saddam had links to terrorists whether is is al queda (which I don't believe) or some other group, hell I consider him a terrorist period. I think the war should be wage on both the diplomatic and military front. Libya is an excellent example, seems they are getting into the world regime and hopefully be a productive society in our world. It will take time, but i am hopeful...granted it took an attack in the 80's to push this along but you gotta start somewhere.
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1- Keeping military spending up. If we stay in Iraq, we'll need the guns. If we pull out, we'll need to show the world that we're not gonna puss out if somebody tries to take advantage of the situation.
2- Education reform. NCLB was a good start. Government mandated education should set a realistic bar for literacy and math for all students and fund ONLY to that level.
3- Tax reform. Simplify the tax code. Shrink my 1040 to the size of a 3x5 card. If the government wants to promote behaviors like owning houses, having kids, or going to school, they can do it through something other than taxes.
4- Tort Reform. Or court reform. There needs to be a major rethinking about modern American utilization of the courts. The American so called 'right to sue', in my mind, ranks right down there with the 'right to wear spandex in public'. People need to realize when such a thing is indecent.
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Leadership abilities.
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Like which ones Nash?
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Team-building, for example.
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None of the above.....
A simple spine along with the conviction to say and do what you believe to be the right thing to do will please me just fine.
I think they call that leadership, but I'm certain there are some on this board that would prefer to simply feel good.
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Not in any order of priority:
1. Somone to stand up to the secularist infringements on my religious civil rights.
2. Somone who promotes personal responsibility in govt programs.
3. Somone who will secure our borders and possibly close them.
4. Somone who's not going to let a once sided voice set environmental policy based soley on theory. (see california forest fires, imperial sand dunes)
5. Somone who is a strong second amendment supporter in it's entirety.
6. Somone who is going to fight abortion every chance they get.
7. Somone who is going to quit bailing out the stupid airlines....if they can't make a profit they shouldnt be in business.
8. Schools and producing HS grads who arent dumber than a bucket of hair. Sidenote: I am also for ensuring every American student has the ability to go to college if they so desire.
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Originally posted by SunTracker
John Kerrys environmental policy
http://www.independentsforkerry.org/uploads/media/issue-environment.html
His policy on just about everything else...
http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/
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thanks edbert... the first site made him look like some junk science environmental whacko that would sell us down the river to other nations...
I am glad you added the second site. It was fair and balanced and made me think. I never thought that kerrie and I would agree on anything but that site showed that we agreed on nearly everything. It was good to hear just how he felt on the issues.
lazs
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I am 16 I can't vote for bush yet.:( but these are the things I will look for in my pres during 2008.
1 Mexican border control.
2 Lower taxes
3 Economy
4 Gas prices (we need to start drilling for oil in america again)
5 Enviornment (I live in Minnesota so it is a big issue for me)
6 Strong Millitary (Enlisting after Highschool)
These are not in order.
OH, and 10$ says Hillary Clinton will be running in 08.
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Originally posted by mitchk
OH, and 10$ says Hillary Clinton will be running in 08.
Thats a sucker's bet, hope you can find a victim :D
I'll bet $10 that it was the Clinton team (that Kerry hired) that scuttled his bid in order to ensure Hillary's ability to run in '08.