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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on September 27, 2004, 01:12:23 PM
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Meat... 0.25 pounds of ground beef, at least 15% fat... 22% is even better. You can season it if you want, but a little salt and pepper is probably all you need.
Grill it. Medium to medium well and place a slice of american cheese on it when you remove it form the grill. (IMHO, american cheese is vile stuff suited for hamburgers and grilled cheese sandwiches and nothing else.)
Lightly toast the bun (roll).
Now stack from the bottom up:
1. Bun
2. Mustard (standard yellow... no honey mustard or dijon)
3. Meat
4. Cheese (already placed)
5. 3 slices of sweet pickle (dill is okay too)
6. 1 slice of tomato
7. 1 slice raw red onion (or... grilled white onion)
8. leaf of iceberg lettuce
9. mayonnaise
10. bun.
Or... repeat 3 and 4 for a double. ;)
Serve with french fried potatos, garnished with Heinz-57 Ketchup and a Coca-Cola with crushed ice (or a chocolate milk-shake). Do not dip fries in mayonaisse. It is an unholy abomination to do so. ;)
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That sounds like what most people call a cheeseburger. It's a very tricky distinction. You can tell, because it has cheese.
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I like to mix up whatever beef I can get on sale (usually its 80% lean) with A1 sauce, worceshire sauce, sliced onions, saltine crackers (or bread crumbs) so the sauces don't let the meat fall apart on the grill, and throw a little olive oil on the outside of the formed patties just before I put the patties on the grill.
This causes them to sear on the outside and keep most of the flavor on the inside, plus it allows you a slightly pinker middle but still have a juicy burger.
Another good one is to use normal italian herb seasoning sprinkled and sliced onions mixed into the beef before forming the patties.
-SW
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1. Make sure it is Hellman's mayonaise.
2. Where's the bacon? Good lord Sandman!!!!!
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Ew, mayonaise.
-SW
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1. Bun
==> will be hard to find here ... let say a piece of Baguette :)
2. Mustard (standard yellow... no honey mustard or dijon)
==> eeeekkk there's not other mustard than Dijon !
3. Meat
==> ok
4. Cheese (already placed)
==> wich one of our 400 kind of cheese ??
5. 3 slices of sweet pickle (dill is okay too)
==> ok but won't be sweet :) (sweet version is not availlable here)
6. 1 slice of tomato
==> ok
7. 1 slice raw red onion (or... grilled white onion)
==> ok
8. leaf of iceberg lettuce
==> ok
9. mayonaisse
==> ok, but I'll use mayonaise if you don't mind ;)
10. bun.
==> ok
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Originally posted by ra
That sounds like what most people call a cheeseburger. It's a very tricky distinction. You can tell, because it has cheese.
LOL.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Ew, mayonaise.
-SW
ill second that, and ill throw in a "ew, pickle"
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Originally posted by straffo
1. Bun
==> will be hard to find here ... let say a piece of Baguette :)
4. Cheese (already placed)
==> wich one of our 400 kind of cheese ??
9. mayonaisse
==> ok, but I'll use mayonaise if you don't mind ;)
Bread is bread... :)
American Cheese...
Or... you could use mayonnaise. ;)
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hehe :)
When I do Hamburger I add pancetta/mozzarella (or "tomme de savoie"/raclette cheese) ,garlic and "piment d'espelette"
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Straffo, you know I worship French cuisine and that on any discussion regarding food I would normally defer to your wisdom..
BUT....this is a hamburger/cheeseburger we are talking about. You French guys have no knowledge of the subject matter and therefore have no ability to comment.
;)
Neither do the British actually.
When I was over there in school years ago you had to order a "Beefburger" otherwise you would end up with a bunch of ham stuck between a bun.
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Originally posted by straffo
raclette cheese
Mmmmmmmm raclette. No fair...now I'm really hungry.
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Well I would agree with you Curval but as I substitute also "Pan Bagnat" for the buns there is almost nothing left of the original Hamburger recipe :D.
ps : I made my 1st Raclette with the kids this WE ;)
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There is a small restaurant in Geneva that serves the BEST raclette.
Word of advice to anyone out there trying raclette:
Do NOT, I repeat DO NOT drink a cold coke while eating it. I was warned but didn't listen because I was thirsty. I couldn't poop for about 4 days.;)
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Pardon my ignorance... what is a raclette?
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Drinking Coke with a Raclette when you could have a nice "vin de paille" ?
< COLLAPSE >
haaaa feel better now :)
The Raclette is a Swiss/French speciallity from an area called Jura.
It's the next step for the "fondue" addicts.
It's moslty melted cheese + potatoes and lot of delicatessen
I think Curval will explain it better than I
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Originally posted by straffo
1. Bun
==> will be hard to find here ... let say a piece of Baguette :)
2. Mustard (standard yellow... no honey mustard or dijon)
==> eeeekkk there's not other mustard than Dijon !
3. Meat
==> ok
4. Cheese (already placed)
==> wich one of our 400 kind of cheese ??
5. 3 slices of sweet pickle (dill is okay too)
==> ok but won't be sweet :) (sweet version is not availlable here)
6. 1 slice of tomato
==> ok
7. 1 slice raw red onion (or... grilled white onion)
==> ok
8. leaf of iceberg lettuce
==> ok
9. mayonaisse
==> ok, but I'll use mayonaise if you don't mind ;)
10. bun.
==> ok
You forgot the freedom fries, Straffo. ;)
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Raclette is a type of cheese.
They put it on a rotating spit and slowly melt off blobs of it onto a plate. They then serve it to you with small "new" potatoes and pearl onions.
It is a very simple dish and my first thought was that "how could this be any good?" But, it was amazing.
Of course drinking a cold coke had the effect of hardening a whole bunch of warm (when it entered my stomach) cheese. THAT is why I couldn't poop.
;)
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Got it...
So... no possibility of warm animal fat running down your wrist and arm?
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NAH...This is a hamburger..
Ground meat:
Shrimp salad: Made with U-15's and Hellmans' of course.
1 THICK slice of mozzarella melted:
Serve on a poppy seed kaiser roll.
Wash down with ( Insert your favorite Dark lager here)
NUTTZ
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Originally posted by Sandman
Got it...
So... no possibility of warm animal fat running down your wrist and arm?
Nope sorry. ;)
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You have to add BBQ sauce and new zealand mainland tasty cheese
Tronsky
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Try dipping a hot french frie into a milksake and eating it. Purty good. Sorta popular around here.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Try dipping a hot french frie into a milksake and eating it. Purty good. Sorta popular around here.
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Straffo in order to get a simply terrific and made to Sandman style burger you need to hop on a plane and come to the States. Otherwise you need to just make do with your Frenchy style burger.
And yes for fries do not use Mayonaisse that was one of the most disgusting things I have seen in Germany.
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heh, the only way to eat french fries is smothered in gravy and grated cheddar cheese...otherwise there just dry and tasteless...
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retards !!!!
meat is off use fish instead :)
Use the metode as bescribed over but use salmon or cod instead and get longer life dohhh meat freaks :D
Ediiot : f..k the cheese too its kinda glue for the fat in your heart kinda stick it up and prop it all up sooner or later.
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Originally posted by airguard
retards !!!!
meat is off use fish instead :)
Use the metode as bescribed over but use salmon or cod instead and get longer life dohhh meat freaks :D
Ediiot : f..k the cheese too its kinda glue for the fat in your heart kinda stick it up and prop it all up sooner or later.
o for petes sake, if there really worried about that they can use bison instead. fish should never be placed in a sandwich like substance anyway (those little bones you know) next you'll be screaming that we shouldent be sitting on our bellybutton browsing this forum.
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I didn't want to do this, but you all have left me no choice.
Beef....80/20
Prepare fresh minced garlic...finely chopped onion...salt...pepper and grated sharp cheese( Cracker Barrel Extra Sharp is my personal preference)
Form the patty mixing in the above throughout the patty(evenly distributed)
Any quality baked bun( onion buns are a nice touch if you like that kinda thingie)....make sure it's buttered well and toasted.
Add the toppings you like and enjoy.
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This is the second time in i dont know how long that I've heard of someone putting mustard on a hamburger... First it was my Girfriend who almost made me puke when i saw her putting mustard on her hamburger, now its here...
Is it really that good???
And am i the only one who puts BBQ sauce on theirs?
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mmm Webers Mustard on a burger. Oh yea, just thought i should share that i live in HAMBURG New York.
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Who the heck says that's a hamburger? Mayo AND mustard?
NO NEVER. one or the other but NOT both.
Add ketchup to burger, not just as a garnish... yeesh.
Sandman, are you from the U.S.?
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Mayonaisse turns a hamburger into a puny sandwich.
Anyone that uses mayo is nothing more than a glorified Wendy's sandwich assembler.
-SW
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Couple of changes to Sandman's recipe:
Use a heartier bun, like a Kaiser roll.
Screw American cheese. Not even sure it should be called cheese. Use a slice of sharp Cheddar and a slice of Provolone.
Two slices bacon.
Barbecue sauce. Smoky and sweet. (No mayo or mustard, you may use Ketchup if necessary.)
Clarification: When he says grill it, use charcoal if possible.
You can skip the tomato and go a little lighter on the onions if necessary.
Serve with fried cheese with ranch dressing or marinara on the side and several cold beers.
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Add ketchup to burger, not just as a garnish... yeesh
ketchup is not needed when a tomato is present. Why on earth someone puts ketchup on anything but fries is beyond me.
And save the BBQ for the ribs. Not required on a burger.
I like mustard and mayo on my burger, but substitute mayo with miracle whip and you have a seriously Tasty Burger!
RHIN0
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Dammit....I tried to use Sandmans recipe tonight but I screwed it all up. I put the mustard on the top bun and the mayo on the bottom. Is it still ok to eat? I wont die or anything will I?
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I can't believe nobody has told straffo yet. Go to McDonalds and order "Le Royale w/ cheese".
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Hellman's Mayonaise is the lyxir of the Gods.
It is like Aristotle's "form" of the ultimate condiment.
Burgers, fries, beef pies, it's all good.
:aok
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McDonalds burgers do not even deserve to be in the catagor of good bugers. A real burger is home made. Not microwaved paper thin, cra*y vegtables. Yes they are good when the lazy or money aspect takes over. But IMHO I think all fast food burgers should be disbanded from this thread.
Webers Mustard is plenty good. Nice and hot. Only from around here. mmmmm (http://www.madeinbuffalo.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=20&idproduct=386)
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Originally posted by kevykev56
ketchup is not needed when a tomato is present. Why on earth someone puts ketchup on anything but fries is beyond me.
And save the BBQ for the ribs. Not required on a burger.
I like mustard and mayo on my burger, but substitute mayo with miracle whip and you have a seriously Tasty Burger!
RHIN0
Exactly... ketchup or tomato on a burger... not both. ;)
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Originally posted by Steve
Who the heck says that's a hamburger? Mayo AND mustard?
NO NEVER. one or the other but NOT both.
Add ketchup to burger, not just as a garnish... yeesh.
Sandman, are you from the U.S.?
Ya know... you're right... Mustard is for hot-dogs.
I wasn't thinkin' straight. :)
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Two slices bacon
Or you could just eat bacon slabs. why anyone would change the flavor of a hamburger to bacon is completely beyond me.
BBq sauce? gimme a break rookie!
ketchup is not needed when a tomato is present. Why on earth someone puts ketchup on anything but fries is beyond me.
More foolishness. Ketchup tastes very little like a tomato slice. Lots of people dislike tomatos but like ketchup.
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True... but ketchup will overpower the taste of a tomato. You can omit the fruit if you're using the sauce. :)
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Good kiser Roll split buttered and toasted.
1/3 lb patty made from 1lb 33% fat hamburger, 1lb buffler, 1tbls salt, 1 tsp pepper, 2 tbls water to mix the salt and pepper in, 1 egg to hold the meat together.
1 slice Swiss 1 slice sharp cheddar
Jack Daniels BBQ sauce
1 Roasted Ortega or green New Mexico chili
2 slices bacon
Tomato slice
Bottom of Kiser roll with a light coating of Best Foods Mayo.
slice of swiss unmelted
roasted chili
Patty char broiled then covered with BBQ sauce and toped with the cheddar till cheese melts.
bacon slices
tomato
top of kiser roll
cold slaw and beer
It don't get much better.
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Portabella shrooms, the best thing i evar put on a burger.
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so i'm on Oaklahoma City with JB11 and JB42 watching the debacule that is the Packers game, ordering a burger for halftime, a bacon cheesburger.
waitress asks: Mayo or Mustard?
COD no i laugh, the only true condiment one puts on any burger is Heinz Ketchup (yes i know Heinz, but Duyamn that girl can make some ketchup)
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See... you take the mayo, mix it with the ketchup... add some relish and then they call it "secret sauce". :)
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Thought Thousand Island dressing was "secret sauce".
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Originally posted by rpm371
Thought Thousand Island dressing was "secret sauce".
...like I said... ketchup, relish, and mayo. ;)
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"BBq sauce? gimme a break rookie!"
Them's fightin' words...
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Fools...
How can you call yourselves Americans while recommending the soiling of good, fatty red meat with "spices?"
There are only two choices one must make when preparing a cheeseburger.
1.) How do you want it cooked? Medium rare or medium ruined?
2.) What else do you want on it? Be careful not to overpower the taste of the dead, raw animal with girly-man garnishes like vegitables.
PS: Ketchup+mayo = t3h gud on cheesburger.
PPS: Mayo+french fries = t3h s1c.
Stick it inbetween two toasted and buttered bun haves (must be of good quality bread) and your in business.
Oh, and while we're on the subject of American cuisine, the hot dogs in Boston are worthy of death by hanging for those responsible for arriving at the conclusion that hot dogs should be, A, surrounded by a "bun" that resembles a folded peice of white bread, and B, taste like ass.
That is all.
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Originally posted by rpm371
Thought Thousand Island dressing was "secret sauce".
whaaat!
Damn who told you the family secret!!!!
Tronsky
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nothing like the 8.5Kcal abomination :
http://myhighhorse.com/
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Geez ... drive to Paris and go to McDonald's. ;)
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mmm... Straffo. THAT looks like a nice breakfast :)
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
PPS: Mayo+french fries = t3h s1c.
That's the only way I'd eat them.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Geez ... drive to Paris and go to McDonald's. ;)
Vade Retro ,Satanas !
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Oh and as for Ketchup, try this brand! America's brand!
http://www.wketchup.com/
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You guys are making this way too difficult.
Bun
Cheese
Bacon
Meat (Medium Well. You pansies don't put meat over fire just to barely touch it.)
(salt if you want it)
Bun.
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processed chesse isn't it?
Tronsky
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Think out of the box, who the heck wants to eat the dead carcass of an animal, sheesh .........
¾ pound eggplant (1 small or ½ large)
1½ t salt
12 slices sun-dried tomatoes
1 c water
1 T olive oil
2 c onions, chopped
1 clove garlic, quartered
½ c rolled oats
1¾ c bread crumbs (or 7 slices of stale/toasted sandwich bread)
2 T sesame seeds, toasted
1½ c carrots, grated
Pepper
2 T flour
1 T vegetable oil
Directions Preheat the oven to 400°.
Peel and dice the eggplant, place in colander, sprinkle with 1 t salt, toss, and let rest for 15 minutes.
Place the sun-dried tomatoes and water in the small saucepan, bring to a boil, and simmer for 5 minutes.
Rinse the eggplant, place on baking sheet, and drizzle with olive oil. Place onions and garlic on the other baking sheet, and put both sheets in the oven. Bake 15-20 minutes, until eggplant is tender and onions/garlic are golden brown.
Grind the oats in the blender, add bread crumbs or the stale bread broken into pieces, and blend until the mixture starts forming crumbs. Pour into large bowl.
Drain the tomatoes and place in food processor along with eggplant, onions, and garlic. Blend until fairly smooth, then add to oat/bread crumbs and mix.
Stir in sesame seeds, carrots, the other ½ t of salt, and some pepper. Chill for one hour.
Dip your hands into flour, then form the mixture into 4 burgers. Heat the olive oil in the skillet over medium heat, add the burgers, and fry about 3 minutes, until golden brown. Flip, repeat, and serve.
Yummy, no animals died in the making of this recipe
wipass
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Crab cakes made from MD blue crabs are awesome if made right. Even poorly made ones are good.
They look like white hamburgers, and you use tartar sauce instead of that girly mayonaise, so I thought I'd add them. Taste way better than vegetable patties.
-SW
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Yes crab meat "burgers" are great too - with tartar sauce.
Veggie burgers can be good too, but its rare. The best ones I've had are this great restaurant called Nepenthe, in Big Sur California. They are awesome.
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BE GONE YON HEATHEN VEGGIE BOYS!
Only people with a taste for real meat should be reading and responding here. :p
Yes Gschloz if you use a little close to 1/2 pound you are probably right on the money.
As for restaurant chain hamburgers the ones you can get at a chain called Hardees here in the US are probably the best that I have had in a long time. They are all near the 1/2 pound mark in weight and carry all the classic artery clogging items such as full flavor mayonaisse and bacon (not turkey bacon). They definetely outclass anything that McDonalds and Burger King can put in your hands and they don't add onion rings or grilled soggy onions like those others do.
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Hardees looks an awful lot like Carl's Junior.. :)
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GScholz, i'm a McDonalds & Burger King Fan :)
i try to copy the burgers at home, my friends like my burgers alot.
I serve with french frys and coke or shake.
Here is the hamburger recipe the way i do it at home:
Hamburger ingedients:
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1 -Pound ground chuck (80% lean)
-Small hamburger buns
-Hamburger dill slices
-teaspoons dried, chopped onion
-Hamburger Seasoning *
-Mustard
-Ketchup
-waxed paper
* Hamburger Seasoning:
4 Tablespoons salt
2 Tablespoons Accent (its called natriumglutamat in germany)
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/4 teaspoon onion powder
The Beef Patties:
Divide 1 lb of beef into 10 equal sized balls. Form a patty out of each ball about 4 inches in diameter and 1/4 inch thick. Do this on waxed paper.
Now freeze the patties for at least an hour. (this keeps them from falling apart when you grill 'em)
Obviously you'll do this in advance of "burger time".
It is pretty tough to make patties this small, so if you come up with 9 patties, I'll forgive you.
The Pickles:
McDonald's® pickle slices are unique in flavor, very sour dills. The only product I know of that comes close to the distinctive flavor is HEINZ
Genuine Dills. (original sour dill.) But they don't come in slices, so slice your own VERY thin).
The Buns:
Use the small, plain cheapo store brand hamburger buns. You know, they come 8 or 12 in a pack.
(You'll want to separate the tops, or "crowns" from the bottoms, or "heels"...as most likely they'll be connected slightly on one edge.) When it's
"burger time", you'll be toasting the buns. Those instructions are coming up.
Before you cook these marvelous hamburgers, pre-cut 10 12"x12" sheets of waxed paper. You'll need them to wrap the
burgers.
Cooking your hamburgers!
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Pre-heat your oven to warm..its lowest level, this is for later.You're going to need two electric griddles . One to grill the meat, the other to toast the
buns. Pre-heat the meat griddle to 375-400°, and the bun griddle to about 350°.
#1 -Toast the crowns of 4 buns (tops) Do this by laying them face down on the griddle closely together. Put a dutch oven (pot) bottom side down directly
on top of the buns.(open side facing up) This is only to apply hands-free pressure to the buns so they will toast evenly. (Don't use anything TOO heavy
like cast iron. You'll smash the buns.)
#2 -Lay the frozen patties on the other grill. After about 20 seconds, "sear" them by applying even pressure with the back of a metal spatula, and
pushing down on the front with your free hand. (careful not to burn your fingers.) Do this only for about 2 seconds...you should hear them sizzle louder
while you "sear" them. After searing them, sprinkle generously with McDonald's burger seasoning.
#3 -At this point, your buns are nearly done. They will have an even tan color when finished. Remove them, and repeat the the "bun toasting" process
with the heels. (bottoms)
#4 -After about one minute since searing the patties, turn them over. Careful, don't tear the side you seared. Add another dash of Seasoning and about a
teaspoon of your prepared onions. (Don't be anal and use a measuring spoon...no time...just two fingers and a thumb full.)
#5 -Now quickly dress your buns. (crown, or top side) Mustard first....five "kisses" the diameter of a pencil evenly spaced in a circle about a half inch
from the edge.
Then the Ketchup, (use Hunt's if you can) five squirts the size of a nickle..in the pattern found on dice. Place the pickle in the middle.
#6 -By the time you finish that, the meat will be done. (about 1 minute or 1:10 after turning) Remove the meat and tilt to the side to allow excess fat to
drain off. Use your free hand to hold down the onions. Place patties onion side up on the dressed crown, top with toasted heels. (the burger will be
upside-down)
#7 -Lay one finished hamburger, still upside-down, in the center of your pre-cut waxed paper. Wrap the paper around the burger tightly. It should
resemble a very oblong tube with two open ends, and the burger in the middle. Then wrap the open ends underneath the bottom of the burger so it is
enclosed tightly.
#8 -Wrap them tightly and let them sit about 5 minutes.
Place wrapped hamburger in your Microwave. Then ZAP 'em for 15 seconds (one at a time) in the microwave. This will complete the "Q-ing" process without over microwaving them like they do now. In fact, they almost taste better this way.
#9 -ENJOY!! This is how they used to be. (You might consider toasting your buns first, at least the crowns, to give you extra time to dress them.)
I preffer Cheesburgers! :)
( add 1 slice of American Cheese to the hamburger, if you dont have it,
look for Cheddar slices or Chester Cheese, its ok!).
R
Gh0stFT
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You dont want to know why McDonalds pickles have a distibct flavor..
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I have eaten at McDonalds five times in my life, and i was drunk 2 of them. Not my kind of food but i guess alot of folks like it. :)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
I have eaten at McDonalds five times in my life, and i was drunk 2 of them. Not my kind of food but i guess alot of folks like it. :)
How can this be achieved? If I'm hungry and in a hurry, then the nearest Burger joint is the easiest and cheapest solution and quite often it happens to be MD.
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Easy, i just look for a another burger joint that is not part of a chain... plenty of them and they serve better and bigger burgers. They are usually run by asians or or people from Pakistan.
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Nielsen, in the '80 during my College time, i was working at our local McDonalds in my spare time to get some xtra money.
Thats why i know how to cook burgers the MC way ! ;)
I think you like it or not, i was allways a fan of MC and still today.
Right now my favorite burger is the McRib!
R
Gh0stFT
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The meat is good Ghost, its just the size i dont like. I prefer mine huge and juicy with lots of lettuce and fat dripping down my chin, and not many smaller burgers :)
Also, you can see them making the burgers in the smaller joints, unlike McD were they make them somewhere in the back.
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They do have bigger burgers on rotating menus, but these also lack the appropriate amount of fat.
I'd kill for a burger from Wendy's or In'n Out.
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Forgot to add... As much as I think Fuddruckers is largely overpriced, they do serve one thing that you can't find at a Wendy's, Carl's, Burger King, McD, In 'n' Out, etc...
BEER!
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Amen, brotha!!
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Take 8oz of Hamburger and form 2 4oz Patties, Spice the Beef anyway you would like.
Take a large pinch of Blue Cheese, and place in between the Two, Form together. Grill until Blue Cheese starts to seep out of Beef.
Meanwhile, Grill or Sautee Roasted Red Peppers, Bacon is also an option, but you must have Peppers.
Garnish the Burger with Peppers and Bacon,and with whatever else you want, but on this particular Burger I use BBQ Sauce and Mayo.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Forgot to add... As much as I think Fuddruckers is largely overpriced, they do serve one thing that you can't find at a Wendy's, Carl's, Burger King, McD, In 'n' Out, etc...
BEER!
and good tasting food...only major fast food chain that makes a half decent burger is a&w, barely...
a reasonably good addition is if you add some taco seasoning (packaged kind, and a pretty small amount) to the meat...
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Interesting. I have always used ground sirloin (trimmed extra lean) for the meat. Not much for packaged hamburger myself. While expensive, it does impart a really rich flavor.
I like to mix in some salt and pepper, but that is it. Let the meat speak for itself.
Variations include chili powder, onion, and a touch of paprika,
or a little Italian dressing, salt, pepper, topped with Provolone cheese
or a little A-1 sauce, onion, pepper (plenty of salt in A-1), topped with extra sharp cheddar (not melted, but softened).
Condiments are optional and depends on the person. And use whatever bread that does not mask the flavor of the meat.
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Hey, the new Angus Burger at Burger king ain't half bad...
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NEVER....EVER, put mayo on a Burger!!!
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It's not a burger if it has mayo on it. It is then just a sandwich. Learn to differentiate it.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
It's not a burger if it has mayo on it. It is then just a sandwich. Learn to differentiate it.
Just what ive said all day, Good to hear that the overlord agrees :D
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Ya know Roy....I read that only liberals place Mayo on a burger....I know for a fact they put steak sauce on steaks as well as sweet BBQ sauce on ribs.
Sweet creamy things are for lilly white little girls.
Sorry Roy....some things must be said:)
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Dunt know about the "lily white little girl" thing Otto. I just figure they have never had the chance to eat really good, well prepared meat.
A product of thier upbringing. I feel for em, but will not hold it against them. They know not what they do. :)
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I prefer "Venisonburgers" myself. Ketchup is for kids and mayo is for yankees. Any burger around here is going to have mustard only. Then you add the lettuce, tomato, onions, and jalapenos.
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Originally posted by Edbert
I prefer "Venisonburgers" myself. Ketchup is for kids and mayo is for yankees. Any burger around here is going to have mustard only. Then you add the lettuce, tomato, onions, and jalapenos.
I sure miss Texas.....workin on the wifey to settle for less money so I can work for a rafting co. on the Guadalupe and move back to Buda:)
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Originally posted by Rude
I sure miss Texas.....workin on the wifey to settle for less money so I can work for a rafting co. on the Guadalupe and move back to Buda:)
We'd love to have ya back, but Buda to New Braunfels is not a very fun commute anymore. San Marcos has really grown, in fact San Antonio through Georgetown ihas pretty much blended together by now, what with all the Kalifornians fleeing the taxation.
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i had one heck of a burger for lunch (using one of the aformentioned recipies, only since i dont have a bbq, i had to fry er in a pan) and all this talk is making me hungry again...
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I'm curious to know exactly what you call mayonaise
Some Americans I've seen eating home made mayonnaise in different French restaurant were very dubious (dunno why I'm pretty sure it was a mayo made according to the tradition)
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Dunt know about the "lily white little girl" thing Otto. I just figure they have never had the chance to eat really good, well prepared meat.
A product of thier upbringing. I feel for em, but will not hold it against them. They know not what they do. :)
As a matter of fact, some of them have visited Texas and they do know what well prepared beef tastes like.
... and on top of that some of them don't use steak sauce either.
:aok
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Originally posted by Edbert
We'd love to have ya back, but Buda to New Braunfels is not a very fun commute anymore. San Marcos has really grown, in fact San Antonio through Georgetown ihas pretty much blended together by now, what with all the Kalifornians fleeing the taxation.
Well...Texas with a few kalifornians is still better than anywhere else in the US:) The commute I can handle....not bein in a hurry is a fine thing.
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I respect those that took some time to travel and learn of such things Sandman.
I learned about good seafood in Boston, good pizza in Chicago, and excellent Italian food in Italy and New York.
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I'm going to Texas in a week, somewhere just outside Dallas I think. I plan on telling everyone there that there's only two things that come out of Texas: Steers 'n queers.
Shall be fun.
-SW
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Well, that takes care of me offering to buy you a beer then. :D
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Hey, I'm all about saving people money.
:)
-SW
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
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I'd say it is better than 50/50 that it would compare favorably. I say that because you can definitely get better mexican food in Texas or New Mexico than you can in Mexico...LOL.
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No Mayo?
Mayo is a must have on my burgers.
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Originally posted by Edbert
I'd say it is better than 50/50 that it would compare favorably. I say that because you can definitely get better mexican food in Texas or New Mexico than you can in Mexico...LOL.
Same goes for California... good Mexican food here.
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I have eaten Mexican food in both Cal and Texas. They are different. You cannot seem to get good Tex-Mex in California (Bay area or LA), but you can get good real Mexican food.
Texas has a mix of both, depending on the part of Texas.
Like Italian food. There is good American Italian food, then ther is good Italian food. New York has the best of both. You can get home made Italian in Little Italy, if you want it or you can get the best American Italian food as well.
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Jebus, Im hungry... and its raining... cant fire up the grill...
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Speaking of Italian there is this little restaurant about 5 minutes from my house called Salvator's and Sal (aka Salvator) is still the cook after many, many years. His Alfredo with white sauce is simply outstanding and nearly like the Italian girl I dated in college used to make. I have had good Italian food in New York and this is right up there with the best of the Italian food I have had.
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Place called Salvators out here. VERY good food.
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We kind of hijacked the thread guys. Let's get back to burgers.
What's your favorite cheese or cheese combination on a burger?
I do like a good aged extra sharp cheddar on mine. Next would be a good baby swiss, then provolone.
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1.Provalone
2.Sharp Chedder
3. Blue Cheese
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Texas covers all cuisine:
Tex-Mex
Interior Mexican food
Taco-bell Mexican food
BBQ
German food
Seafood
Cajun food
But we are light on Italian-I can only think of 3 or 4 Italian joints that even know there are other colors of sauce than red.
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Burgers? My all time favorite was a place on NASA Rd 1 in Houston called the Jalapeno Tree. It is gone, but man did they make good burgers, lots of Japs(of course), but my favorite was the Jap/bleu cheese with bacon bits.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
What's your favorite cheese or cheese combination on a burger?
I prefer mine cheeseless, the perfect burger does not need the cheese, but am pretty much in agreement with BlueJ on what types I like.
Liz, I'm assuming you've been to Hut's on 6th street right? Or EZ's on Burnet road?
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Yeah, I eat at both regularly(although I only let myself eat one burger a week), but my favorite in Austin are Drity Burgers, plus they still serve schooners of cold beer.
Edit- My old favorite was Dan's before he and Fran got a divorce, now Dan's and Fran's both kind of suck.
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Options are a good thing Edbert :D
LizKing, you been to the restaurants in West, TX? Dayum good German food, particularly that little hole in the wall place off the freeway.
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My territory is the State of Texas, and has been for the last 20 years, so there are not many places in Texas that I HAVEN't eaten at, from burger stands to Le Mansion. I have not eaten German in West, though, I'll try it next week on my way up to Ft. Worth. My German food fav's are in Fredricksburg and Wimberly, esp. the cellar door in Fredricksburg.
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"What's your favorite cheese or cheese combination on a burger"
I like meat, including bugers, plain--no cheese, no bun, none of that junk. Sometimes I'll put some salt on it but that's about it.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
Right now my favorite burger is the McRib!
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Gh0stFT
That ain't no burger. But I like it too. :D
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Originally posted by Lizking
My German food fav's are in Fredricksburg and Wimberly, esp. the cellar door in Fredricksburg.
3 of my 4 grandparents were born in Fredricksburg not to mention both of my parents. I've been going there 6-12 times a year since I was born.
Opa's sausage is a good place to eat, as well as Althaus, or the brewery.
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Originally posted by Arlo
That ain't no burger. But I like it too. :D
Hell... is it even meat?
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I like to mix up whatever beef I can get on sale (usually its 80% lean) with A1 sauce, worceshire sauce, sliced onions, saltine crackers (or bread crumbs) so the sauces don't let the meat fall apart on the grill, and throw a little olive oil on the outside of the formed patties just before I put the patties on the grill.
This causes them to sear on the outside and keep most of the flavor on the inside, plus it allows you a slightly pinker middle but still have a juicy burger.
Another good one is to use normal italian herb seasoning sprinkled and sliced onions mixed into the beef before forming the patties.
-SW
My brother makes burgers in this manner. Dont think I have ever had a better grilled burger. I think the only thing different is he adds an egg to help the whole mix stay together.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Hell... is it even meat?
Not really ... but it never stopped me before. I liked the old McNuggets.
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cheddar cheese, slightly melted (fully melted is gross), to get the right effect you place your slices (im talking about a block of cheese here) which are fairly thick, onto the meat about 40 seconds before there done...
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Good lord I can't believe some of you heathen put Blue Cheese on a fargin burger. You may as well just throw that meat outside for the dogs.
For me my favorite is good thick slices of Cheddar placed on right before finishing the burger on the grill. Also I like a colby jack cheese sliced fairly thick on the burger as well. American cheese only if I am drinking copious amounts of cool Warsteiner with my burger. Lastly Munster cheese is a good one to top off any burger with. My wife bought some Munster a few months ago by accident and those were some of the best burgers I have eaten after I got over my assinine fit about eating some damn german cheese on my good ol' southern USA grilled to perfection burger.
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Oh my!
You people owe me a keyboard, it has shortcircuited for the salivation.
Here in Italy McDonalds it's trash, but i remember there in the States was little better.
The best Hamburger of my life I had it in a little harbour at the end of a channel along the route from Annapolis to Baltimore, 2 days before leaving for the Atlantic crossing in a sailboat.
It was a small place, with 2 tables on each side and the cooking place at the end, and a nice and gentle woman was doing everything, the other 2 customers were a local policemen and a guy wearing a baseball hat.
When I entered I tought to be in a set of a movie.
That hamburger cut have been defined one of the proves of the existence of God.
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I've never been anywhere that had better food than Texas.
I just remembered one resturant in san pedro sula, that was the best food I've ever had.
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When I was In Pittsburgh, Cooking at Froggys, We always had a Huge crowd during Steelers Home Games.
One night, after the crowd had died, A Very, Very Drunk man stumbled in around the time the kitchen was closing. The waitress sent the order in.
This man wanted a Pittsburgh Rare Hamburger. I refused to make him one, and told the waitress to get Frog and tell him to come back to the Kitchen.
Frog said "Make him the burger, so we can go home"
So i grabbed two skillets and put them on the stove, Put a little oil in one. Got them both smoking, through the burger in the one with the oil and took the other skillet and pressed them together.
Seriously I only cooked the burger for about 30 seconds, And sent it. I went and sat near the entrance of the Dining Room, and watched him eat every single bite, He even approached me after we had closed the kitchen and thanked me for such a delicious hamburger, I nearly vomited because he had uncooked hamburger all over his nice Steelers jacket.