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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Tern on March 31, 2000, 11:00:00 PM
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Thank you for your time. It will be well wasted following this thread. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
[This message has been edited by Tern (edited 04-05-2000).]
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Terne, if this means you are gone for good, take care. That said....
All I ask is that "we", the players, be kept in the 'loop' a little better in as much as FAQ updates, pending release dates, Bugs to watch out for. If I missed those sections, then by all means slap my head and point me at them.
I'd love to see an example of any software company, much less gaming company, that:
a) Releases as frequent updates to their product as HTC does.
b) Keeps its customers as informed as HTC does regarding future development.
I can't think of any that come close. And don't throw out open-coding projects that by their very nature necessitate that future development be made public. Really, we have it pretty damn good.
Gordo
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Well, sometimes I wonder what planet your from Tern?
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And the winner is:
1) In the category of "Head so big they don't make a box that it will fit in":
TERN
2) In the category of using vague terms such as "alot of people other than me" and "we the players"
TERN
3) In the category of "More buisness savy than I for letting this individual hang around":
HiTech
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Just a note read the post from the HTC gang they take notes. If Im not misstaken Ronnie reads over almost every post on this board and She tells the ones who needs to know what. Tern when the gravity on the bullets is fixed it will help the 50's. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Hog D be alive again. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
1st Aces High Trainer Corps.
Home of The Allied Fighter Wing A.F.W.
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I was fortunate enough to be able to drop in on HT and the gang this week for a few minutes. Pyro gave me and a friend a tour around while HT schmoozed with some magazine guys. I can tell you from my initial impressions, they are very busy, are doing a tremendous job and are providing us a sim that is quickly becoming everything we wish WB would have become.
I am amazed that they even have time to answer posts at all, that after working all day long developing this game they still have the enthusiasm to play it with us in the evenings and still be civil when we whine.
My advice is this, if you wish to see change or improvements, suggest it in a diplomatic manner, remember if you attack this game in any way, you are attacking their hard work and efforts. Nobody wants to see that done to something they work very hard on.
For me personally, knowing nothing at all about programming, this toejam still amazes me.
Dago
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Tern, considering the number of people at HTC (6) and the incredible output of work they have achieved so far, I think the customer feedback has been great. Certainly better than other sim companies who have far more people on staff and have achieved far less over the last couple of years.
I'd much rather they spend time fixing stuff than telling us they are fixing stuff. I know another company that is very good at telling us about what they are fixing, but never fixing it. I no longer do business with them.
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I'd love to see an example of any software company, much less gaming company, that:
a) Releases as frequent updates to their product as HTC does.
b) Keeps its customers as informed as HTC does regarding future development.
I can't think of any that come close. And don't throw out open-coding projects that by their very nature necessitate that future development be made public. Really, we have it pretty damn good.
Although this company be making a different kind of game, but still as complicated, I say to you that 3000AD Inc, developing the BATTLECRUISER series of games has been doing just that and more since 1994 (and perhaps earlier than that).
Check out the game, the demo, your A) and B) points and more at www.bc3000ad.com (http://www.bc3000ad.com) .
Just think of this: The developer put in PLAYER made organizations INTO the game. Now I'd like to see any other game do THAT (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Back in topic, I think HT is doing a good job so far. Sure, more "reports" would be nice, and, in my personal opinion, it would be VERY nice to have a "bug list" made so players can know what is a bug and what not.
In AH, the biggest bug is the player himself, its good to have a list that tells you when you're (the player) not the problem (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<S> HT!
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I dont get it..
Ive never seen any of these problems you mention Tern.. Have you filmed these and sent them to HT..
And theres not a damn thing wrong with the .50s. Why keep bringing this up?
10 kill sortie in a p38 tonight and 6 of them were after cannons ran out killin b26s.
Thats 6 kills with 4 .50s, enough about the .50s,did you ever think it just might be your gunnery.perish the thought.
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HTC have made the 332nd Flying Mongrels feel very welcome as have many other players. :-) No complaints here. <S> HTC from the 332nd!
I might mention the best feature of the game is the ".ignore" command. Thankfully I have only had to use it on one player so far.
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daddog C.O.
332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)
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DAGO
I dont want to busrt your buble but business
is business HT made that game for one reason
(as all company we know)to make money.
They enswer post because they must be neer
the custommers and that is why they have to
take the time to play on line with us to be
able to found out "what customers want" and
to check if their product is at our con-
vinience otherwise they would have to close
their business.
Custemers have the wright to "whine"and it is in the "best"interest to HT to listen and listen dam good cause others as I am writing this are doing just the same and they are HT competitors.
Dont you ever forget that "all companys"must
be alert and dam sensible to people if they want to make "BIG BUCKS"
So please DAGO think about this befor saying
"I was fortunate enough to be able to drop in on HT and the gang this week for a few minutes. Pyro gave me and a friend a tour around while HT schmoozed with some magazine guys. I can tell you from my initial impressions, they are very busy, are doing a tremendous job and are providing us a sim that is quickly becoming everything we wish WB would have become.
I am amazed that they even have time to answer posts at all, that after working all day long developing this game they still have the enthusiasm to play it with us in the evenings and still be civil when we whine."
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Best regards gents :)
Ranker...out!!!
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Ease up gents.
I was there for the "verbal" exchange last nite, as many of you were, and it wasn't fun to watch. Disharmony in a basically harmonius WW2 ACM community.
What I see here is Tern bringing the dialogue back to a non-adversarial level. I think that is a "good thing."
I know HTC wants this to be the best ACM game in the world. What a coincidence! I know we want to play the best ACM game in the world, too.
Obviously, we're all on the same side then, aren't we?
This is a great game, with even greater potential. Not perfect, not flawless, not bug free but very good at a very, very reasonable price. Comes complete with a small dedicated crew of programmers trying to make it better every single day.
There will be questions/suggestions/complaints. That's purely natural.
Therefore, let us deal with each other in a respectful, non-adversarial manner. Hey, we all like the same thing! <Reminds me of a joke>
Tern did an honorable thing here.
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HERE! HERE! Toad for President (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Ranker, I dont know whether to answer you or feel sorry for you.
It seems like there is so much you dont understand.
Guys like HT and Pyro are extremely talented and knowledgable programmers, they dont have to give us this game. They could take jobs with any of hundreds of companies, work 40 hr work weeks not 80, get paid very well and not have to put up with all the nonsense. They choose to do it to develop their own company doing something they love. That doesnt give us the right to act like jerks.
Human nature is a funny thing, and it has long been known that people will respond positively to the right kind of input, and on the other hand will, even at their own inconvience, do things to spite others that piss them off. What I am suggesting is that you treat the developers of this game with respect, friendship and encouragement, be part of a positive force for change.
These guys will do whatever they can to improve the game and make the customers happy. It is in their best interest to do so, but not everything can be done, certainly not all at once.
Dago
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Hmmm...
I thinking Tern WAS on good behavior! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Wardog,
I have problems with the P-38 myself. The guns just don't seem to have any "WOMP". Whereas; I had thought that the lethality at the piont of contact should be devastating. Any one gun hitting would essentially be all five guns hitting. This is just not so.
IMO your skills and the average "Scmuck" spelled "People like Mino who struggle with gunnery" are like comparing apples to raisins. Please keep that in mind. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
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Are we using Avalon Hill as an example of good business practice....wow. Stick with your business model HTC....
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Mino..
I had all guns set at 400 convergence. After running outa cannon rounds on the b26s, the 4 .50s had no problem cutting p38s, La5s & another b26 in half. All hits started at D3 and under except for the b26. I started shooting at 600 as its a damn big target.
Im sure being nose mounted guns helped,and i will fly the p51 tonight with film on and only load out 4 .50s on her. Being wing mounted i dont really expect the same results as 4 .50s on the p38.
My point here is i have found nothing wrong with the .50s in AH. There damn deadly.
The 357th & 13th TAS are p51 Squads,and ive not heard anyone from these Squads complaining about the .50s..
Toad,Rude,Hangtime,jr and svk a knight pilot are all good 51 jocks and have no problems with the .50s.. Oh, HT is also a p51 jock and also has found no problem with them (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Fifties Rock! I split time between the Spitfire Mk. IX and the Mustang Mk. IV, and I'd like to have the Mustang guns installed in the Spitfire!
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Wardog;
Thanks! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
The final straw for me in the P-38 happened just recently when I lit up another P-38. I lit him up 3 to 5 times at ranges under d300. He just kept on flying like I was not there. I then managed to get into a "AutoPilot Only" recoverable spin and splashed myself. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Granted, these were not all sustained bursts, but each burst showed multiple hits. Basically any one of these bursts, if from say a Spit or N1K2, would have put him down.
This was a re-run from my 15 or so previous encounters where I managed to gain the edge. I have no idea of the damage I inflicted because, I got so mad after the experience that I logged off to cool down. I thought this a wise thing to do at the time. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I have flown the P-38 exclusivly since it came out. The first thing that I noticed was its lack of punch. Like I said, my gunnery is not the greatest. I mostly flew the N1K2 prior to that.
Typically, I end up in a dogfight where snapshots are required. Very seldom do I get the luxury of setting up where I can get a long sustained burst. That does not happen often unless I am in the suppressing NME from taking off mode.
I can be much more successful with cannon armed planes. Torque tried to tell me this was so.....
Honestly, it was a sad day for me. I need(ed) to take a "Time Out" from the P-38 and start liking ACM again. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
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Originally posted by Minotaur:
The final straw for me in the P-38 happened just recently when I lit up another P-38. I lit him up 3 to 5 times at ranges under d300. He just kept on flying like I was not there.
Granted, these were not all sustained bursts, but each burst showed multiple hits. Basically any one of these bursts, if from say a Spit or N1K2, would have put him down.
This was a re-run from my 15 or so previous encounters where I managed to gain the edge.
I have flown the P-38 exclusivly since it came out. The first thing that I noticed was its lack of punch.
Typically, I end up in a dogfight where snapshots are required. Very seldom do I get the luxury of setting up where I can get a long sustained burst.
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Why is it all other P-38 pilots are in other squads (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The 475th "Lightning Riders" is a P-38 squadron, join us (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ok, ok, I wont start recruiting here, but I can tell Minotaur the following:
1)Set convergence to 150 on the P-38. Some people laugh at this, since nose guns arent affected by convergence, but heck, ever since I set em there I get kills with 2 hits instead of the 6 it took before (at ANY range below 800)
2)Though it may be hard to do, try to ALWAYS aim for the wings. If from above, get the wings, from below, the same, if on a target's 6, ping him till he turns, THEN match target's bank, pull to get a deflection shot, and put the rudder one keyboard tap to either side and let out a long burst. Target's wings will rip (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
One thing I do agree with Mino is that the 38 has a bit of underpunch, but not because of lack of damage, but somehow the convergence is not being applied to it (or something). 4 .50's and one 20mm hiting the same spot with less than half a foot distance each bullet HAS to rip something apart, you can't get better convergence than that!. Now I only await the next version, where I hope the dive breaks, flaps and 1/3rd more powerful engines are put in (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
But this is not a 38 discussion, Mino, lets move it over to the 38 threads (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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1)Set convergence to 150 on the P-38. Some people laugh at this, since nose guns arent affected by convergence, but heck, ever since I set em there I get kills with 2 hits instead of the 6 it took before (at ANY range below 800)
EH? 2 hits?
I light them up good at times, and they keep on flying. I must have the wrong hobby, I'm just unlucky at this one. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
BTW sorry for continuing my P-38 "Not so great" wimper. I'll stop....
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
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1/3 more powerful engines in the P-38? Welcome to Fantasy Island! Zeee plane Zeee plane boss!
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Originally posted by Minotaur:
EH? 2 hits?
I light them up good at times, and they keep on flying. I must have the wrong hobby, I'm just unlucky at this one. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
BTW sorry for continuing my P-38 "Not so great" wimper. I'll stop....
LOL! I guess we're both on the same track then (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Now I dont get outgunned, but I do get outflown thanks to the wimpy undercharged engines it has now *grin*.
I am still trying to get HT to remove the warheads on the rockets, strap those rockets to my wings and use em as an extra WEP (HAHAAHA) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
What times you fly mino? Ill gladly die on your wing !
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Wow. I've been a lucky sob in the P-38.
It's my prefered vulch platform. Much more than an F4u-1C and if I have "E" I'm not afraid of any bogy or two. My last flight last night I lost one engine to a 1/4 or HO shot and still I managed to keep enough "E" to kill 2 bogies before landing at base.
I think connection quality IS a BIG factor in alot of this hit, no-hit biz. I'm on cable modem service and maybe that's why if I find I get my guns on a bogy they come apart quite nicely. Be it from flying a 38, MK V, -1D or hatever.
I'm number 400 I believe in overall rank here. Alot of you are far better than I am.
-Westy
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What Toad said!
The other night I heard several taunting Tern in a not so kind manner about changing countries....it really wasn't necessary.
However, in the ten years I have flown these sims, one thing remains the same....folks always find somthing to complain about.
Maybe counting our blessings is a concept to consider?
As far as not liking another player, thats cool too....I've always found the most effective way of sharing my feelings about someone who I dont really care for, is simply to kill them.
Just some Deep Thoughts by Rude (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Rude Out!
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"Holy BBQ Pit Batman!!!"
Ohhhh boy... here I go; steppin off into the deeeeep deeep doggie doo again.
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"Typically, I end up in a dogfight where snapshots are required. Very seldom do I get the luxury of setting up where I can get a long sustained burst. That does not happen often unless I am in the suppressing NME from taking off mode."
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Sounds like a scene from my average evening in the cockpit/office of my P51. I dunno what in hell is goin on... howls of gunnery; ballistics; rubber bullits, porked damage models... dammo it's getting overwhelming.
From my perspective; the .50's do fine with some time on target; particularly with low AOT shots. I think the lethality is poor to dismal in a snapshot, and only about half as good as it should be on smooth well aimed and delivered deflection shots. Of course; this is just my opinion; and like amazinhunks; we all have one.. at least. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
On the other hand this complaint/thread seems to come off rather consistently... surely; from the sheer volume of fire being leveled about them, one can get the impression that something ain't right with the .50's. What that might be is pure conjecture... even that something is wrong is fer chrissakes pure conjecture. None of this is worth burnin a bridge... or a candle over.
And all I can add to this discussion is more conjecture. I say we all shaddup about it till the next revison is out and we've had some time to see what, if anything changed. The gun models are better here than anywhere else... anybody disbelieve THAT one?
I'm more than willing to accept what we have as a gunnery model... and have tried to adapt my style of flying and fighting to accomodate it. Of course; I may grouse about it, but I realize that when I'm in the hospital with truck tire marks across my body, it's kinda pointless to hassle the nurse about the truck being overmodeled. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Well said Hang. This is one of the few posts I've seen from you that I actually agree with 100%
<Salute!>
AKDejaVu
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I can't recall seeing any real gun films where a snapshot caused large-scale damage.
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Screw it...
PYRO REMOVE THIS THREAD PLEASE.
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It's still being wasted.
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Originally posted by funked:
I can't recall seeing any real gun films where a snapshot caused large-scale damage.
Funked;
Can't say that I have either, but I think it was fairly common especially where the shooter had mulitple cannons.
Check (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/002456.html) the middle of this thread for Pyro's thoughts and some articles that he posted up.
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
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hey dont be knocking the p38 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
you just have to treat her like a lady and she will show ya a good time (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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CitabriAirbatic
bishop P38aholic (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
"There is no spoon"
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Thanks for the pointer Tern, I knew that. They also sqandered their status and market as computers took over that market..Wich is what I was refering too.
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Pongo
The Wrecking Crew
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As a bomber pilot, I am at the receiver end of those so called under powered 50's. If they are under powered why am I getting shot down all the time?
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ruh roh, nuther fighter
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Cause your aim isn't as good as Fatty's? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
You're not being shot down, your being under-shot down by under-____________(shutting up now).
4/1/00: Fatty 2, Westy 0
-Westy
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Originally posted by Oosik:
As a bomber pilot, I am at the receiver end of those so called under powered 50's. If they are under powered why am I getting shot down all the time?
Must be "net lag" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
PYRO-o-o-o-o-o-o! Close the thread please. It has strayed far from the original course. Sad that only a few folks actual understood the honest intent.
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Tern
"Live to Fly! Fly to Fight! Fight to Live!"
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50s are undermodeled, 20s are overmodeled, 30s are undermodeled, the 500 pounds bombs are overmodeled, the 20s in gondolas are undermodeled, the rockets are undermodeled, the 1000 pounders are undermodeled, 50s in a bomber turret are overmodeled, the bomber sight is undermodeled, prop torque for the P47 Thunderbolt is overmodeled, the JU88 roll rate is undermodeled, the Hurricane .303s are overmodeled, Spit V turn radius is overmodeled, the P-82 turn radius is undermodeled, external fuel tanks are under modeled, and radar presentations are overmodeled.
There! Did I forget anything?
What was the topic of this post again??
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Swager
-XO- II/JG2~Richthofen~
"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/swager.gif)
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
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Originally posted by Tern:
<S> HT.
Yeah, it's me again. :0 Time to "bury the hatchet", HT.
Thank you for your time. I shall not bother you again in game.
Tern this is in reply to your latest request to close the thread where you were talking about people understanding.
What I read from the above quoted post:
You were asking for bygones to be bygones and you would not bother HT while he was in the game anymore.
I was not there to witness any "incidents", I have no idea what this thread is about, I can't tell if I am reading edited posts or originals (I do knowthe diff - just talking about content) but that's what I read out of your initial post. Not that it matters to anyone.
Fury
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Just wondering... who was it online last night calling it "Arcade High"? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
You can't slam one moment and ask for civility the next.
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hihihi ! God one Kieren (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ......"Arcade High"...ihihihi !
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Saw
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Originally posted by Kieren:
Just wondering... who was it online last night calling it "Arcade High"? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
You can't slam one moment and ask for civility the next.
whos stupid rule it that...is that in the text file...i didnt see it....
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Pongo
The Wrecking Crew
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When the Historic arena comes out, I'll be flying there exclusively. Then it will be Aces High to me. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Does that help you out any, Kieren?
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Tern
"Live to Fly! Fly to Fight! Fight to Live!"
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Oh AKDejevu? Are you pissed at me because, despite my poor gunnery, I ended the tour ahead of you in the scoring department or what?
Wow.. good job Tern. You finally managed to do it. We'll not mention that its the first time you've managed this since I started playing. We'll call that 3:1 in my favor.
IMO - That's a pretty lame shot you took at me in this thread.
Well, you've certainly managed to outdo me in this category tern.. congradulations.
Kind of like you never really read it at all. Just saw my name up there and decided, "I'll screw him..." did ya?
As you pointed out in the e-mail tern, I don't know you at all. All I know is what I saw when I read that post. You see... I keep reading the posts.. even when you don't think people are.
Teach you that at Senior Research tech school did they?
Ah.. I wish I could just push a button on your name and get this witty.
Actually.. I didn't go to any technician school. I joined the United States "Air Force" for 8 years. I then went to a place called "college". You should try one some time... you'd be suprised at what you might learn. After college, I gained something called "employment". The job was as what is commonly refered to as a "technician". As I worked, I gained what is called "experience". This enabled me to be "promoted". After a while, I became what is known as a "senior" technician.
Unfortunately, this label doesn't get me the same discounts you are entitled to at Denny's.
And, once again, thankyou for proving my point tern.
"Look at the size of that thing!... Its got its own weather system!"
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FOCLMAO!
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Tern
"Live to Fly! Fly to Fight! Fight to Live!"
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"There I was, inverted at 50 feet and 120 kts. and the only thing running was the radio."
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Tern-
I've sat on your response to me- wanted to think about it.
While this thread started with you apologizing for (yet another) "bad night", others have calmly tried to help. A couple went a bit further, and now this thread has degenerated to mudslinging.
My comment to you is not intended to throw mud per se, but to point out an obvious truth. It was not condescending (not intended to be anyway).
To be perfectly blunt, you are abusive to people at times. This is no secret. I would merely point out the fact that some people take longer to get over it than others. I'm not asking that we should all hold hands and sing "Koom-bah-yah", but you can't expect that people aren't going to comment when you make such a post.
Intended with all due respect, no sarcasm, no smilies.
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To add to what Kieren just said.....
If you get abusive to people in the game, no matter how many "apology" threads you start, people are still going to remember your conduct in the game.
It's your behaviour in the game that will make(or break) your reputation.
Hehe, Kieren, "Koom-bah-yah". LOL!
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banana
308 (Polish) Squadron RAF "City of Cracow"
"On the whole, it is better to deserve honors and not have them than to have them and not deserve them"
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Originally posted by banana:
To add to what Kieren just said.....
...It's your behaviour in the game that will make(or break) your reputation.
Hehe, Kieren, "Koom-bah-yah". LOL!
Here, here to banana and Kieren! I agree completely with you both. (Please no gasps.) Haven't buggered anyone that didn't bugger me first, so far.
Yes the thread has turned into a mud slinging contest. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Thank you both for your frank honesty and appraisal. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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"There I was, inverted at 50 feet and 120 kts. and the only thing running was the radio."
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Shape up or ship out.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
Perfect plans, aren't.
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"There I was, inverted at 50 feet and 120 kts. and the only thing running was the radio."
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Me being on on welfare dole and uneducated as someone tried to point out
Ah.. ok.. I see how it is. I'm not going to bother with you anymore tern. If you somehow managed to get this out of what I posted, then you are simply too defensive and ill-equiped to play with.
Done with ya.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Ah.. ok.. I see how it is. I'm not going to bother with you anymore tern. If you somehow managed to get this out of what I posted, then you are simply too defensive and ill-equiped to play with.
Done with ya.
AKDejaVu
Gee whizz. I was all set for a lengthy campaign of mud slinging too. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
"Peson with the grandest illusion of self importance..."
AKDejaVu (runner up is Tern) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Salute all and good night Mrs DejaVu, where ever you are. <pouf!>
Can we now close/lock/get rid of this thread please?
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Tern
"Live to Fly! Fly to Fight! Fight to Live!"
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"There I was, inverted at 50 feet and 120 kts. and the only thing running was the radio."
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Tern:"Here, here to banana and Kieren! I agree completely with you both. (Please no gasps.) Haven't buggered anyone that didn't bugger me first, so far."
Do what I do, I don't bugger back. Tough to discipline yourself to do so, but it helps my blood pressure. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I speak with my guns, not with my text (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif).
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Ripsnort(-rip1-)
=CO=II/JG2~Richthofen~
Communications Officer
Aces High Training Corps
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
(http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/ripsnort.jpg)
"Experience is a hard teacher because she
gives the test first, the lesson afterwards"
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Off topic... this just caught my eye. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
""Experience is a hard teacher because she
gives the test first, the lesson afterwards""
LOL Ripsnort!! My favorite is:
'The cure for ignorance is education. The cure for stupidity is death.'
Have a nice day. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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(note for my self)
Next time you can't sleep start reading this topic from beginning (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
When I get home I'm gonna send 3-4 megs pic to my site and link it here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
That has nothing to do with this topic but so what ? For me it looks like this is full of "Off Topic" text anyway...
This is also O.T:
Couple months ago I had my hard drives full of games:
H-L with mods, RS w/mods, Q2 w/mods, SportsCar GT, Colin Mc Rally etc etc...
Now I got only AH w/No mods (Thank god) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) and minesweeper!
Somebody need a hard-drive ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Just me... Staga
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Tern..
Why not delete it yourself.
Just go up and delete the text from all your messages..
Self administration of your silly thread.
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Pongo
The Wrecking Crew
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Originally posted by Pongo:
Tern...
Just go up and delete the text from all your messages..
Self administration of your silly thread.
Pongo, the only text I can delete are the ones I created. I don't have 'administrator privliges" over any others in this thread. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
If you're reading this, you will have seen that I did just what you suggested, but the rest of the thread is history. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Tern
"Live to Fly! Fly to Fight! Fight to Live!"
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"There I was, inverted at 50 feet and 120 kts. and the only thing running was the radio."
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Originally posted by Staga:
(note for my self)
Couple months ago I had my hard drives full of games:
H-L with mods, RS w/mods, Q2 w/mods, SportsCar GT, Colin Mc Rally etc etc...
Now I got only AH w/No mods (Thank god) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) and minesweeper!
Somebody need a hard-drive ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
LOL. Same here, only AH and Sims on hard-drive now, normally it were 7-10 games installed.
FAriz
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LOL. Same here, only AH and Sims on hard-drive now, normally it were 7-10 games installed.
FAriz
Great shooting at 34K over F10 last night, Fariz. Shame my .50's couldn't sustain more than damaging your engine. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) <S>
Say, did you ever make it home safe?
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Tern
"Live to Fly! Fly to Fight! Fight to Live!"
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"There I was, inverted at 50 feet and 120 kts. and the only thing running was the radio."
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34K?!? What the hell are you guys so afraid of !!!
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
34K?!? What the hell are you guys so afraid of !!!
Sure isn't me. I lost my wings as I recall. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Tern
"Live to Fly! Fly to Fight! Fight to Live!"
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"There I was, inverted at 50 feet and 120 kts. and the only thing running was the radio."
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Hell, I don't even play AH (did during Beta, and sure might again with the looks of 1.02--)
but I have to say that HTC's communication with its player core and pace of development are tremendous. They are first-rate. You ask why I don't play AH now? My squad is still in WB, and we really can't afford to play both. But I'll say this: we are watching AH with eager anticipation. It really looks great.
I have been following the downloads, and find it a fine simulation as-is, and am excited about the future. <S> to HTC!
Bolter
333rd Red Dawgs