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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: schizer on September 28, 2004, 05:26:28 PM
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Car enters intersection and gets t-boned while news crew is reporting live on how dangerous the intersection is
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=crashreport.wmv
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Interesting Video, proved that guy's point. But, why didnt he go help instead of talk about it?
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Originally posted by United
Interesting Video, proved that guy's point. But, why didnt he go help instead of talk about it?
no cht.. driver of the car is definately injured.. and that schmuck goes on to say "this is what alot of the talk is about"
people are sick, and selfish
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Because he's a scum sucking parasitic journalist.
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Reporters and photogs dont think to well at times. Even though they were not injured, from the angle of the shot they were standing in an area that accidents could spill over in.
Now If it was me and I knew I was doing a stand up at an intersection where accidents are common occurances, I would have set my shot up a lil further back out of the line of fire. On top of that I would keep in mind how idiotic people become when they see a camera and know they could be on TV.
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FWIW, from KCWH Ch 12 news:
Immediately after the accident, Matt and photographer Kevin Rempe, were quick to help the accident victims. Matt finished his report and went to check on the drivers. Kevin called 911 and grabbed a fire extinguisher from our live truck after seeing chemicals from the airbag, which appeared to be smoke.
I was going to post this vid but I got so much flak for the posting of the video showing a guy that rolled his car (camera in his car) that I thought I'd better not. Glad to see it was simply an attack on the poster and not the video. ;)
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What you *didn't* see was the team of strippers behind the camera.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Because he's a scum sucking parasitic journalist.
And instead of finishing the report..he should have rendered assistance right away...he's no better than the journalists in iraq that just film injured soldiers instead of putting down their cameras and helping them.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Because he's a scum sucking parasitic journalist.
My brother is a scum sucking parasitic journalist. He's a few hour's drive away from you. I'm going to tell him to go egg your house.
:)
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Originally posted by ASTAC
And instead of finishing the report..he should have rendered assistance right away...he's no better than the journalists in iraq that just film injured soldiers instead of putting down their cameras and helping them.
Different situation. I don't believe journalists should help soldiers.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Different situation. I don't believe journalists should help soldiers.
Totally agreed.
Help a soldier, become a target.
Journalists viewed as targets means no news, nothing, gets out. And then we might as well use our imaginations as to what's going on over there.
They aint soldiers, and I doubt they can even do CPR. They're there to report.
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I saw one report that some imbedded journalists were about to take up weapons during the Iraq war. Apparently their unit was sorrounded by hundreds of enemy and engaged in a heavy firefight under some highway overpasses - the enemy was so close that even the wounded were firing from their strechers at the aid station. Their imbeded journalist said he was seriously considering putting down his camera and picking up a weapon to join the fight.
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I agree about journalists in a war zone not becoming participants, to a point. I think Walter Cronkite put it well in his experiences flying aboard a B-17 in WW2 as a combat correspondant.
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What did he say rpm?
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im sorry but that reporter just had someone suffer a serious accident right behind him and he took ONE MINUTE yapping CRAP on the camera instead of going to help.
FYI, if you witness an accident and are in a position to help, and you DONT but rather stand by and watch the victims die, you can and will be arrested on murder charges.
Here in FLA we had a case of a driver gassing his car up, then he was attacked by 2 men, received several knife wounds and was left on the floor bleeding. the punks ran away on another car.
The survelliance camera showed another costumer park his car, gass his own car up WATCHING the victim on the floor BLEEDING to death. He did nothing, ,got on his car and drove off.
The victim died from his wounds.
The guy that just stood by and did nothing is in jail under murder charges.
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Grun, I was looking for the quote but in the interest of time I'll summarize. The waist gunner was shot and he manned the gun. It was shoot or die, he chose to shoot but kept quiet about it until years later.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that that particular accident happened because the driver of the car was busy looking at the news people on the side of the road, rather than checking oncoming traffic.
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The world would be better off if people like him were drawn and quartered while a journalist co-worker "reports" the action.
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That ultra melon needs to be brought up on charges for failing to render aid. WTF was he thinking not running to help.
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Like Sandman said, Saur...
Different situation.
The reporter in this vid is a tool. He spent most of the time trying to get the address to anyone who may be watching (it was live). But after that he shoulda dropped his mic.
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Originally posted by Nash
Totally agreed.
Help a soldier, become a target.
Journalists viewed as targets means no news, nothing, gets out. And then we might as well use our imaginations as to what's going on over there.
They aint soldiers, and I doubt they can even do CPR. They're there to report.
You get imbedded in a unit..how can you not help another American? Self preservation because you might be a target is just a show of cowardice. They may be over there to report, but as a human being you should help. And jouralist are so stupid that they will do anything to get a story so I highly doubt that there would ever be a shortage of handsomehunkes willing to replace a fallen comrade no matter how many get killed.
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huh?
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Originally posted by Nash
huh?
What did you not understand?
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you
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Originally posted by ASTAC
You get imbedded in a unit..how can you not help another American? Self preservation because you might be a target is just a show of cowardice. They may be over there to report, but as a human being you should help. And jouralist are so stupid that they will do anything to get a story so I highly doubt that there would ever be a shortage of handsomehunkes willing to replace a fallen comrade no matter how many get killed.
Professional ethic. :)
Soldiers are soldiers... journalists are journalists. No need to bring humanism into it... warfare is far more efficent without it.
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By Nash:
You
Why because I believe that no matter if you are in a war zone or on the side of a street, you should render assistance to someone that is injured? No matter the reason you are there in the first place.
And because I have NO respect for ANY journalists because ALL news is biased and sensationalized?
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Oooh all news is biased and SCARY!
No...
Local? Even if it's during the ratings period - though that may pose a dilema - drop your mic and help.
War Zone? Just report.
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Originally posted by Nash
Oooh all news is biased and SCARY!
No...
Local? Even if it's during the ratings period - though that may pose a dilema - drop your mic and help.
War Zone? Just report.
How often do you get a good news report..few and far between..It;s mostly bad stuff,,,there's more going on in the world then violence and death.
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**hiccup**
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What an idiot for not even checking out the condition of those people involved. Funny how accidents especially medical emergencies seem to turn people into idiots.
...-Gixer
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ASTAC,
there is a difference between a innoncent person such as a journalist and a soilder. Why do you think they get the title veteran when they reitre?
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The reporter and camera crew were indirectly reponsible.
The car is approaching,and the road to the left seems clear.He turns and checks out the camera crew as he stops.He starts rolling and looks left,and the white van which has just crossed blocks his view of the car that just approached.
He should have waited until the van cleared,but he probably assumed that since it was clear just mere seconds earlier it was ok.If the car had been 50 feet farther back,he would have seen it behind the van.
This is all just speculation on my part after watching it several times.
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I agree with a lot of the opinions about the reporter in the video, he should have immediatly rendered aid, and forget the yapping into the mic.
Now, as far as journalists taking up arms, I don't blame any who have or do in the future if they think it is necessary to survive. Here is a shocking thought for some of you, enemy soldiers in the large majority of cases won't bother to distinquish soldiers from reporters when in a battle.
Anyone read the book "We were Soldiers once, and young..". Joe Galloway picked up an M16 and commenced to shooting NVA, as they were in imminent danger of being overrun and if this had occured, it is guaranteed he would have been killed in this event. In his place, I would have been shooting away also. A journalist at some point has the right to protect his own life. As far as I am concern, he should also render aid if he is the only one available to do so in any situation, whether at an accident or in combat.
dago
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maybe it is just me, but i thoug it is a war crime to shoot innocent people during a war and in a war zone?
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LOL B17, you can't be serious?
Was the Malmedy massacre a crime?
How about the death camps were millions of Jews were exterminated?
Maybe the torture and killing of POWS in just about every war?
Are these crimes? Sure, but the reality is that they happen. Shooting journalists happens too. Breaking a law or two? Yup, every see many prosecuted for it?
I haven't seen a case yet were a journalists little "press" badge stopped a bullet.
dago
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>After Genevea.
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
>After Genevea.
Yeah, and all the murder laws in the United States really stops people from being killed too. War crimes are commited by both sides all the time. It's a sad fact, but it is also war. If you think the U.S. doesn't commit war crimes you're sadly mistaken. If you think a little press badge means anything to the average enemy soldier, you're sadly mistaken. About the only thing that is universal is the red cross, and that isn't even sacred everywhere and to everyone.
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
maybe it is just me, but i thoug it is a war crime to shoot innocent people during a war and in a war zone?
OK.When bullets are flying in a "war zone",how exactly do you know who the innocent people are?
There are no absolutes.
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That guy is so useful :D
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The reporter is too busy crapping his pants. I know I would be. Look how close he was to the initial impact. At first he can't even remember what intersection he is at.
Let's face it. The reporter rendering aid would have been a bigger story than him standing there not rendering aid. He is clearly not thinking clearly at first.
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Clearly.
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If I was a reporter, and that happend...
I would of dropped everything and told the station to call 911, and run over to the accident and assist the injured..
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B17, do yourself a favor.
Grab a digital camera.
Go to your local paintball field and just go around taking pictures.
You cant tell the guys on the other team that you're not carrying a paintgun.
At the end of the day count how many purple spots you got in your body.
Then you will understand reality.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Different situation. I don't believe journalists should help soldiers.
Do you also agree that soldiers should not help Journalists? If a Journalist is wounded on a battlefield should he be left alone to wait for a civilian aid?
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A soldier's duty includes protecting civilians, Journalist duties don't include protecting soldiers other than not revealing their battle plan.
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The driver of the red car was a moron and most likely dead, the uncoming truck was clearly visible even before the red car came to a rolling stop at the stop sign. I would wager that the driver never looked left just took it for granted cuz the white van was crossing.
The reporter by repeating the location over and over again did lend aid, how many calls do you think 911 got?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I saw one report that some imbedded journalists were about to take up weapons during the Iraq war. Apparently their unit was sorrounded by hundreds of enemy and engaged in a heavy firefight under some highway overpasses - the enemy was so close that even the wounded were firing from their strechers at the aid station. Their imbeded journalist said he was seriously considering putting down his camera and picking up a weapon to join the fight.
The imbedded French journalist that was attached to my brother in law's Marine unit was given a sidearm to defend himself when they had to stop on the road during the sandstorms. He was told just in case things got hairy, he'd have to defend himself.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
A soldier's duty includes protecting civilians, Journalist duties don't include protecting soldiers other than not revealing their battle plan.
About ten years ago there was a 'round table' forum on PBS that posed a question to newsmen Peter Jennings and Mike Wallace. A US Army unit was about to be attacked and only the Reporters new about it. The question to them was "Would you tell the US soldiers?" They said 'No...' They were 'Reporters' and there 'job' was far more important than the lives of American soldiers.
If I were the CO of that unit and I found out about this I would make damn sure that Jennings, Wallace (you and Sandman) became "Ledges of Journalism" for sacrificing your lives to get that story....!!!
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Originally posted by Sandman
Because he's a scum sucking parasitic journalist.
BOOM!
Dead on, sandman.
I hate the friggin media, even more than Hippies.
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Then why are you so glued to it?
I'll be waaaay gracious and include Rush and O'Reilley into the mix.
If you had to turn off the TV, radio and (being gracious again) stopped reading the paper, you wouldn't know what to do with all yer new free time.
Gimme a break.
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Eh, I'm getting a degree in journalism. Nice to know I'm well on ym way to being a scum-sucking journalist...:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Gixer
What an idiot for not even checking out the condition of those people involved. Funny how accidents especially medical emergencies seem to turn people into idiots.
...-Gixer
I think there's also something about video cameras that makes people feel detached from what's going on around them.
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Originally posted by Otto
About ten years ago there was a 'round table' forum on PBS that posed a question to newsmen Peter Jennings and Mike Wallace. A US Army unit was about to be attacked and only the Reporters new about it. The question to them was "Would you tell the US soldiers?" They said 'No...' They were 'Reporters' and there 'job' was far more important than the lives of American soldiers.
If I were the CO of that unit and I found out about this I would make damn sure that Jennings, Wallace (you and Sandman) became "Ledges of Journalism" for sacrificing your lives to get that story....!!!
Been taking notes on the Grun school of arguing with yourself?
By all means... continue.
I'll just watch.
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About ten years ago there was a 'round table' forum on PBS that posed a question to newsmen Peter Jennings and Mike Wallace. A US Army unit was about to be attacked and only the Reporters new about it. The question to them was "Would you tell the US soldiers?" They said 'No...' They were 'Reporters' and there 'job' was far more important than the lives of American soldiers.
I remember that. But I also remember that there were those who said the opposite. It's been so long it's blurry as to who said what.
Charon
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Originally posted by Otto
About ten years ago there was a 'round table' forum on PBS that posed a question to newsmen Peter Jennings and Mike Wallace. A US Army unit was about to be attacked and only the Reporters new about it. The question to them was "Would you tell the US soldiers?" They said 'No...' They were 'Reporters' and there 'job' was far more important than the lives of American soldiers.
If I were the CO of that unit and I found out about this I would make damn sure that Jennings, Wallace (you and Sandman) became "Ledges of Journalism" for sacrificing your lives to get that story....!!!
So folowing the same reasoning, it's ok for me to give away the Marines attack plan to their enemy.
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Ok... I've decided I wouldn't shoot Reporters that incur my wrath. (That was the wine talking..) Instead I'm going to assign them to a two man tent with CNN reporter Candy Crowley.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/crowley.candy.html
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Originally posted by Nash
And then we might as well use our imaginations as to what's going on over there.
LOL,
you might as well use your imagination to figure out what is going on, becuase the pansie media produces such a slanted view it is the same as being imaginative bs...