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Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 02, 2004, 07:03:30 AM
One thing I noticed aboyt the old commerical was that it has a Bf109E attacking a formation of B17s. Although this may have happened on a few occatios overall it was not too common.  Not in real life and certainly not in AH - if you wanna bring that up. ;)

So maybe if we have a new commecial with a B17 attack we could use more appropriate planes to attack the B17s, like Fw190A, Bf109G or Bf110G..  Maybe best to use the new design AH2 Bf109G6 model..

:)
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 02, 2004, 11:12:59 AM
Thats what we need, a new commercial to attract more players:rolleyes:.  

Then we can all play in 1 big arena (all of us exept the 20 that fly in the CT), on huge maps. I understand that HTC is a company, & companies need to profit. But I honestly feel like this game, and the games before it were much more fun for me when there wasnt such a high player  base.

Many people have given good examples of why this circumstance exists. All I can say is that, gameplay seems to be directly connected to the player base. The higher the player base, the less skill/effort the players seem to display.

I think it would be a smart idea to work on establishing a way to encourage our current players to "fly the game" instead of "game the game", before we invite more problems in.

IMO, if we get another huge wave of Air Quake mentality players, it will completely ruin the game for me, and likely many others (So long Lupo).

Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: jpeg on October 02, 2004, 11:23:36 AM
Anton: both can be done at the same time
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: hitech on October 02, 2004, 01:57:38 PM
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Roscoroo on October 02, 2004, 02:10:53 PM
Ban him for not allowing us fresh meat ;)


btw ive got a decient clip from the recent bob senario .

hurri's against the formations of ju's the pass were i get the one to blow up is pritty cool , i cut it down some but it has us hurri's flying in formation awaiting the LW attack then pouncing them .


Roo's BoB frame 4 (http://s90945482.onlinehome.us/roosite/images/Roos_BOB_f4)
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: crims on October 02, 2004, 05:10:16 PM
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech


So do we HiTech Keep the Fresh Meat OTW. >)



Crims
479th Raiders
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Furball on October 02, 2004, 05:50:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech


he lies!!!

he just wants more gadgets for his aeroplane :D

oh, and that whiskey.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Chitownflyer on October 02, 2004, 06:14:55 PM
I like to drink myself...


But more typical MAIN senario is a match up of 109-10 and p38

0r 190 and p51...


just my 2 cents...

Chi Town flyer
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Arlo on October 02, 2004, 06:17:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Roscoroo
Ban him for not allowing us fresh meat ;)


btw ive got a decient clip from the recent bob senario .

hurri's against the formations of ju's the pass were i get the one to blow up is pritty cool , i cut it down some but it has us hurri's flying in formation awaiting the LW attack then pouncing them .


Roo's BoB frame 4 (http://s90945482.onlinehome.us/roosite/images/Roos_BOB_f4)


And you didn't volunteer for the HURRIs in the upcoming Rangoon event? Wildcards .... let's see .....
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: NUKE on October 02, 2004, 06:32:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech


well, you could sell your plane and get food stamps if you had to...the important thing is to make the game fun and cap the number of players, for someone else's sake..

Some people can be so selfish
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 02, 2004, 06:46:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech


Wanna know my first actual response? the one I didnt type? "they must be coming out with an RV9"

The sad part is your response doesnt't surprise me one bit. I'm sure you eat just fine.

Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: parker00 on October 02, 2004, 08:24:00 PM
So Anton, do really feel that they should do without so this game is more fun for you?  Not saying that they all live in the slums, but hell you have to understand that they are here to make money, not to make certain ONE person has a good time. Do you also understand that the more money that they pull in will in turn help the game improve because they can spend more on the game?
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 02, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
parker, of course I dont expect anyone to change anything to please myself alone. But if you are convinced I am the only one who feels this way, I can assure you that is not the case.

I am all for making a profit, I am sure Hitech eats just fine now, & would continue to do so even if he decided to focus more on keeping the game fun in addition to keeping it popular & profitable.  (you do know what an RV8 is right?)

I just dont want to see gameplay deteriorate any more. That, as a customer, is MY bottom line.:aok


Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 02, 2004, 09:26:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NUKE
the important thing is to make the game fun and cap the number of players, for someone else's sake..




Capping the player limit will in no way effect game play and is a sure way of driving an online game out of business.



ack-ack
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: United on October 02, 2004, 09:30:13 PM
Anton, I feel you are out of line with what you said.

HTC is a company, and like all companies, they need to make a profit to stay in business.  They are going to put out a new commercial to attract new players, which doesn't mean theyre going to be "Air Quake" people who care nothing about anything except for blowing things up.

Think of it in a different perspective.  With new players comes a lot that can be added to the community, such as skinners, terrain makers, people who can help with computer problems, etc.

Now, yes, HT is probably not on the lower end of the spectrum financially, but please.  Yes he owns an RV8 but, even with the little I know of him, I can almost guarantee you that its not the only thing he does with his money.  Everyone has to make a living.  HT does it with Computers and Aces High.  Give him a break.  He and the whole HTC crew work their arses off to provide you and hundreds of others with a service and a form of entertainment.  If you dont like it, then theres an easy answer that Im sure we both know.

Unless you've lived a day in his shoes, or anyone else's that you beat down, then keep your insulting thoughts to yourself.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Eagler on October 02, 2004, 09:57:10 PM
anton
come die in CT
the ratio of dweebs to decent sticks is better than MA, due to its low numbers
CT can always use another target :)
seriously - your post had to be a troll attempt
of course they want it to grow, its value to increase - maybe one day sell it off for a trillion dollars to gates & co - so what? if they didn't - they'd be insane
Ain't that the reason for creating it in the first place? Or was it suppose to be your private entertainment ....
what number should MA be capped at - 100, 200, 300 ??
it only takes one whiner to ruin a room, channel, or bbs thread...
====

orignal post..

Grunz has a point
never thought the old commercial did AH justice
- may I suggest bikinis, music, beach .. oh yeah an AH2 plane or two :)
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Morpheus on October 02, 2004, 10:08:47 PM
I just want new crap. I dont care what HT does. Give me new things to play with already please. :)
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: mechanic on October 02, 2004, 10:24:35 PM
anyone actually think AH2 is the only project HTC are working on and making money from???

:lol

subcontrating is a great way to make money.
some companies see the success of AH, and gets HTC to do them some code. simple.

And come on HT, you cant be short of food! thats almost too funny.

but im not against the advert, infact i have a good film

Bring in the new players, i say.  but force mandatory training for free trial week. teach ethics and ACMSA etc.  make em newbie fresh meat, but not morons.

and give us more toys, as Morphdweeb says



batfink
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 02, 2004, 10:55:13 PM
Dont get me wrong-

I dont dislike Dale or his game, in fact I have spoken highly of him for being able to create the game & have it be so successful. I think he tries to be as fair as possible.  I feel his response was lacking.

I know there are many players that feel gameplay has in fact deteriorated quite alot in the last 4 years, as numbers increased.  I also know that there were a great number of players who stayed with AW after AH1 opened, and experienced an increase in gameplay with the reduced player base.

The whole point of my statement is that I dont want to see gameplay drop any more than it has. I dont want an increase in players to mean an increase in the size of the horde that attacks undefended bases. I dont want an increase of player base to mean an increase in the number of players who wont fight 2 fronts.

I'm all for more guys who arent looking for "Air Quake". But thats not what we have been getting lately.  

Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: llama on October 02, 2004, 11:44:46 PM
Well, if one's goal in life is to play a WW2 aircraft combat simulation with hardly any players, Warbirds is still available. ;-)

At least for now...

-Llama
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Glasses on October 02, 2004, 11:49:34 PM
Remind that we do NOT need any movies of you fondling or molesting livestock as that will turn down most mainstream players. We need to let themknow lightly that goes on in game with certain players, some wear theirs and some well... enough has been said I think :D
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Roscoroo on October 02, 2004, 11:56:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
And you didn't volunteer for the HURRIs in the upcoming Rangoon event? Wildcards .... let's see .....


I flew hurri's all 4 frames in bob ... I figured It was my turn to pick my ride this time :D

Since Rangoon is mostly warhawks .. I wanted p-40's this time . muhahahahaa.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: FiLtH on October 03, 2004, 12:33:24 AM
Its up to the players to make the current game more fun. A guy can give you a field,bats,gloves,balls and rules, but if people are too lazy to form a team and work together, its gonna suck.

  The game cant be 100% great all the time. Ive yet to see one that is online. I recommend recruiting groups of people who think like you do and hold nightly or weekly meetings in the CT rather than the MA.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: simshell on October 03, 2004, 12:47:53 AM
This is what TOD IS FOR!


dolts:cool:
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: KootDawg on October 03, 2004, 01:03:03 AM
Come to the CT!!!!!!!
Theres a CAP here...

Looks back in the Officers club and yells,
"Fresh meat guys...LOL"
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: o0Stream140o on October 03, 2004, 01:32:25 AM
Just for some input... Here are some AH video's I have put together... nothing I am sure someone else can do better but I don't have the high end toys to do it.

http://www.colstream.neptune.com

AH2 and OneThursdayNight with this one you need divx to view

Stream14
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: moot on October 03, 2004, 03:37:40 AM
It'd be cool if they made one section of the commercial for each type of gameplay.  
One for mass furballing, another for dueling, another for historical CT combat, another for carpet milking and general blowing **** up, another for just flying around in squad formations, GV ops, CV support etc.
Title: agree with Anton
Post by: beet1e on October 03, 2004, 04:08:27 AM
I tend to agree with Anton's first post. It is clear that the gameplay has reached the point that I predicted it would reach in the absence of any sort of rules or structure. People pooh-poohed the idea of a game with "rules" or "structure", and it led to all kinds of whines along the lines of "waah waah waah waah waah waah waah only have 1 hour to play waah waah waah historical squad waah waah waah more choices waah waah it's my $14.95 waah waah...". Finally the ENY limiter came out - maybe too little too late? And the whining escalated. Reminded me of a poker game in which a guy walks away from the table if the hand he gets dealt has no kings or aces.

Maybe a lot of new blood is arriving, but what's the good of that if the old hands get fed up and leave?
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.
But hitech, there is more nourishment in a 10oz fillet steak than there is in 100 cheap hot dogs.
Quote
"Those who neglect old friends for the sake of new are rightly served when they lose both" - Aesop's Fables.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: moot on October 03, 2004, 06:05:34 AM
neglect? yeah right.  Ki84 and T34 and renewed short dev cycles sure are neglecting the old MA players.

The dumb-as-bricks-strategy anti-gameplay lemmings are to blame first of all.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: debuman on October 03, 2004, 06:12:58 AM
Quote
Originally posted by anton
Wanna know my first actual response? the one I didnt type? "they must be coming out with an RV9"

The sad part is your response doesnt't surprise me one bit. I'm sure you eat just fine.

Anton


Actually, they alrady are up to an RV-10

http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int_b.htm
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: beet1e on October 03, 2004, 06:25:18 AM
Quote
Originally posted by moot
neglect? yeah right.  Ki84 and T34 and renewed short dev cycles sure are neglecting the old MA players.
What effect will these have on gameplay?

Wake me up when TOD arrives.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: moot on October 03, 2004, 07:38:07 AM
The gameplay will stay dead till the path of least resistance isn't the tactic of choice by the majority.  New planes mean new toys and less bitterness and monotony for those so inclined.

i.e. welcome to society.  
Make a squad of 10 or so and kiss your innocence goobye, the only way you'll survive the hordes without a jet or flying in the vacuum around them is mass seal-clubbing efficiency.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Jackal1 on October 03, 2004, 08:33:27 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech


 ROFL A classic that will go down in history. :D
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Slash27 on October 03, 2004, 09:04:09 AM
all of us exept the 20 that fly in the CT

25:rolleyes:
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: beet1e on October 03, 2004, 09:48:54 AM
Quote
Originally posted by moot
The gameplay will stay dead till the path of least resistance isn't the tactic of choice by the majority.
ie. new models won't change it.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: storch on October 03, 2004, 09:56:45 AM
Quote
Originally posted by anton
Thats what we need, a new commercial to attract more players:rolleyes:.  

Then we can all play in 1 big arena (all of us exept the 20 that fly in the CT), on huge maps. I understand that HTC is a company, & companies need to profit. But I honestly feel like this game, and the games before it were much more fun for me when there wasnt such a high player  base.

Many people have given good examples of why this circumstance exists. All I can say is that, gameplay seems to be directly connected to the player base. The higher the player base, the less skill/effort the players seem to display.

I think it would be a smart idea to work on establishing a way to encourage our current players to "fly the game" instead of "game the game", before we invite more problems in.

IMO, if we get another huge wave of Air Quake mentality players, it will completely ruin the game for me, and likely many others (So long Lupo).

Anton


What a narrow view!!!! Congrats Anton for being able to see through a keyhole with both eyes simultaneously.  We need more players pure and simple.  HTC needs to make a profit and the only way to do that is by splattering Mud on the wall and working with the mud that sticks.  Occasionally more mud has to be splattered.  I hope HTC runs plenty of adds and I hope the response is overwhelming.  I hope it maxes the servers.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Arlo on October 03, 2004, 09:56:52 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Slash27
all of us exept the 20 that fly in the CT

25:rolleyes:


Do I hear 30? 25-25-who'llmakeit30?-25askin30?
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: storch on October 03, 2004, 09:57:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech


:rofl
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: beet1e on October 03, 2004, 10:06:42 AM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
What a narrow view!!!! Congrats Anton for being able to see through a keyhole with both eyes simultaneously.  We need more players pure and simple.  HTC needs to make a profit and the only way to do that is by splattering Mud on the wall and working with the mud that sticks.  Occasionally more mud has to be splattered.  I hope HTC runs plenty of adds and I hope the response is overwhelming.  I hope it maxes the servers.
Storch, I thought Anton was perfectly clear. Sure, more players will be a good thing in the long run, but what is bad is that the new masses tend to be pork-n-auger guys, for the reasons Moot said (path of least resistance). From what I've seen of you, you're a CT guy. I remember seeing you in there a lot. The CT is a lot different - better pilots IMO, and people are much more courteous, except people like.... well, email me for a list. ;)

What Anton describes is an MA problem.

Anton - sorry if I pre-empted you.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: SCDR on October 03, 2004, 10:17:17 AM
Why do you people think HT isn't making a profit now? I'm sure
he is making a good one, he'ld just like more. :)

Have that many players canceled their accounts? I don't think so.

Does HT want to have a better menu to eat from? Of course, we
all do. :D

Anton has some valid points too.

SCDR
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Jackal1 on October 03, 2004, 10:24:55 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Glasses
Remind that we do NOT need any movies of you fondling or molesting livestock as that will turn down most mainstream players. We need to let themknow lightly that goes on in game with certain players, some wear theirs and some well... enough has been said I think :D


  I`m too sexy for my g-string....too sexy for my g-string. Lookahere you can see things. Too sexy for my g-string.
:D
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: moot on October 03, 2004, 10:36:35 AM
ie players in masses are stupid.  Fortunately for them it's HTC's fault.
Endlessly building foolproof safeguards isn'tt feasible, in a short length, they're'd be more idiot-proofing than game code.


Anton why don't you go to Grapevine, or ask for 15min on the phone and explain your better business plan to HTC?
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 03, 2004, 11:46:52 AM
Well, I stated my position. I was able to do it without flaming or insulting anyone. :)  

I have no interest in trying to persuade the best of the HiTech brown nosers into following logic.

So make yer ads, but I sure hope the Ad campaign is delivered to potential PLAYERS, we already have MORE than our fill of GAMERS!
If you don't know the difference between a player & a gamer, save yerself some keystokes & just move along quietly.

Beetle,  I was sleeping- :D

Moot, They wouldn't listen to me, I am from the school of thought where if squelch is OK, then perma-squelch is perma-OK.


Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 03, 2004, 12:05:38 PM
For the record, I have never suggested a player cap. Not in this thread, not in any other thread, not on vox, not anywhere.


Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: 68DevilM on October 03, 2004, 12:08:38 PM
ya know ive only ever seen one commercial, since playing ah.

i live on the southern east coast and the commercial was shown during ethier a history channel ww2 documentary or a discovery wings show, i cant remember wich channel it was but it only comes on here when that particular documentary comes on...need more advertiseing out here

i show co-workers all the time clips, video, and pictures.. so far ive been only able to get a small hand full of people interested.

a little more advertiseing would definately attract more players.

i never see ah in computer gameing magazine's neither.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: acetnt367th on October 03, 2004, 12:55:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by anton
 

I have no interest in trying to persuade the best of the HiTech brown nosers into following logic.


Anton


You shared your opinion but your quick to call other's with a different opinion brown nosers. It seems that a lot of people do this when anyone sides with HTC.  So call me a brown noser cause if it were my company I'd try to ensure that I'd try to expand it as much as possible. I am sure that you'd do the same.


Acetnt
Title: Re:... I like to eat
Post by: agflit22 on October 03, 2004, 02:23:07 PM
Three things...



     1: Dale, judging from ur weight, u really should eat more... preferably Steak and baked potatoes... with lots of sour cream and butter I might add.

    2:  Vans has had the RV-9 out for almost 2 years Anton....


    3:  Anton please drop ur joystick, and go register for Business 101 at ur local community college. Then come back and opine regarding the economics of demographics as it relates to a business model.

Thankyou
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: 2bighorn on October 03, 2004, 02:57:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by anton
IMO, if we get another huge wave of Air Quake mentality players, it will completely ruin the game for me, and likely many others (So long Lupo).

Mr "Vet", what did you do to improve the situation? How many times did you try to teach them better?
Example is what counts.

It just happend that I have been passenger in one of the "noob air quake" planes, who was on your 6, you augered, than started to display the "Quake" mentality on channel 200. You were very obnoxious, you lied, and in general worse than any "air quake noob".

You don't have any credibility no matter how loud you're whining.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 03, 2004, 05:43:33 PM
OK 2bighorn, first of all I dont believe yer story at all. Secondly If by some chance it is true, It was for 1 of 2 reasons: 1) my crappy cordless stick is giving me probs. or 2) you were part of a 30 man horde & I logged right after speaking my mind about it. Thirdly if you dont know what I have done to help, you must not know me at all. I always help new guys, & have been known to visit the TA & offer to share what I know, however limited it may be. I will admit I havent been in the TA for a while, likely cause I never see more than 3 or so there.

For those who question my business mentality: Let me say that I believe in standing behind high quality products and services. Let me simplify that for those mentally impaired. Quality over quantity.

Now if for some reason:rolleyes:  numbers have dropped for the first time in years, then I guess we could use more players. But really, the hordes don't need to get any bigger.

Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: GreenCloud on October 03, 2004, 07:42:02 PM
Deleted for flame.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Trippy on October 03, 2004, 08:14:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GreenCloud

what a whine..

"

completely ruin the game..anton.."


ya..what a crying little girl.....bring in the new people...YA sorry Anton I guess not everyone is an Instant Ace like you?..lololololololol


you say so many things that sound so ghey ..."before we invite more problems in"


you should quit...and soon...you sound liek a whinnie little girl

btw love the line..."probbly my wirless J/stik"....

lololo excuse #132


Btw HTC you really should of gave us more lead tiem ..we could of got some exceelnt formation attk footage put together..

I hear tonights the deadline?


Funny thing too..a fellow AH member actaully makes commercial..says he woudl do your for free..!!!...


i dont know which is worse whinning or this flaming, classy.  another locked thread?
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Schutt on October 04, 2004, 02:07:18 AM
Bring in more players.

Will be more people to get known, more oposition to shoot at and faster and more game developement.

Hell, if there are too many players in ma there could be a second ma.

Or more people in CT

Or a rookie arena without base capture (but full killing, so you can shoot someone down).

Or more special events, as it is now the special events for europe players are somewhat limited.

Or TOD be out faster.

More players can only be good for us.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: KdF on October 04, 2004, 07:01:03 AM
I would just like to see the commercial just once.

I don`t get to watch much TV at all , and my flying time has been dwindling as of late due to real life.

Anyone know when it`s supposed to be on in Austin tx? I`ll even try to record it.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: KdF on October 04, 2004, 07:19:38 AM
What?

Still a junior member after 3 years?

Sheese..................
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 04, 2004, 09:49:37 AM
Stating my opinion is not a whine.:aok

Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 04, 2004, 09:57:38 AM
Greencloud, we arent to far from each other-

Perhaps we could meet for beers & I could explain my position to you?


Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: dedalos on October 04, 2004, 10:18:15 AM
Anton, I don;t think the prob is the new guys unless you consider someone who has been in AH for over a year or two, new.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 04, 2004, 10:43:53 AM
Dedalos, think back to when you were a new player, what was gameplay like back then?  I assume you learned in that environment & adapted to it.

How is todays MA different? Do you think you would approach the game differently if you were a new player entering today? I think you would.

My opinion is that we should be focusing on gameplay before we work on acquiring more players.

Thank goodness I have a forum where I can post my opinions without being attacked:rofl


Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Pyro on October 04, 2004, 10:43:54 AM
Knock off the flames.  I'm getting real tired of that stuff.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 04, 2004, 10:50:06 AM
Why have you guys hijacked my thread about the types of plane matchups I would like to see featured in the commercial?

Pyro did you get any good films over the weekend?
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Pyro on October 04, 2004, 11:08:18 AM
I got a number of films that I'm going through.  I'm looking for any cool looking films, but there are some particular films that I could use.

1-  262 attacking a B-17 formation.

2- Aerial attack on a CV group.  Filmed from the tower or a gunner position would be best.

3-  A group of tanks close together opening fire.  Being under attack from planes would be even better.

4-  Tight furball action with lots of planes packed in close.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: airbumba on October 04, 2004, 11:45:57 AM
A tight formation peeling off towards the cv with really cool skins.:)
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: dedalos on October 04, 2004, 01:17:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by anton
Dedalos, think back to when you were a new player, what was gameplay like back then?  I assume you learned in that environment & adapted to it.

How is todays MA different? Do you think you would approach the game differently if you were a new player entering today? I think you would.

My opinion is that we should be focusing on gameplay before we work on acquiring more players.

Thank goodness I have a forum where I can post my opinions without being attacked:rofl


Anton


lol, I remember flying the spitIs and C202s, cause I did not know any better.  Could not understand why I was getting all the assists but not any kills.  Then, someone pointed out cannons to me.  :D
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: humble on October 04, 2004, 01:43:57 PM
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Originally posted by anton
Wanna know my first actual response? the one I didnt type? "they must be coming out with an RV9"

The sad part is your response doesnt't surprise me one bit. I'm sure you eat just fine.

Anton


Anton....

Thats a classless remark, why shouldnt he want to build his business and prosper.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 04, 2004, 02:30:56 PM
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Originally posted by Pyro
I got a number of films that I'm going through.  I'm looking for any cool looking films, but there are some particular films that I could use.

1-  262 attacking a B-17 formation.

2- Aerial attack on a CV group.  Filmed from the tower or a gunner position would be best.

3-  A group of tanks close together opening fire.  Being under attack from planes would be even better.

4-  Tight furball action with lots of planes packed in close.




Why not just use a P-38L?  It's by far the sexiest plane in the game, it's the most uber fighter and people will flock to this game just to get a chance to fly the thing.  It could be the new spokesplane for AH, kind of like that little green lizard for that insurance company.



ack-ack
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: DoKGonZo on October 04, 2004, 03:21:30 PM
There should be some great screens/films from Rangoon ... new custom skins and everything ... if you can wait that long.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: JB73 on October 04, 2004, 03:25:45 PM
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Originally posted by Pyro
I got a number of films that I'm going through.  I'm looking for any cool looking films, but there are some particular films that I could use.

1-  262 attacking a B-17 formation.
i'll get you one tonight



i also have a film from batfink of the 30+ stuka mission from the other night... want that one?

BTW could you post the commercial for us who dont get discovery wings to watch?
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Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: anton on October 04, 2004, 03:33:36 PM
I will no longer be posting in Gruns thread.

If anyone wishes to continue bashing me and my opinions, please make another thread to do so. Lets let Grunherz have his thread back.


Anton
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: FT_Animal on October 04, 2004, 08:33:32 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech




My god man! What is wrong with you?

Is that all you can do is think about yourself?
Isn't it enough that they have to pay .48.3 cents a day to play unlimited hours just so you can have fun pushing code around? This could really dent the coper weight in the piggy bank.

Worse comes to worse, yall could pedal a bike for electro energy. And light from those energy saving light bulbs could easily come more effeciantlly just using 50 candles.

And they have finally invented the perpetual engine to power the computers. You just plant an oak tree that produces lots of acorns over the squirrel cage. The only other thing you'd have to do is become a squirrel breeder.

And all you can think of is you and your family not starving to death. What ever happened to supreme sacrofice to ensure our enjoyment?

Ya know, sometimes I just don't know where your mind is,.....


Think of all the children for cod sakes!


;)



Anim
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: GreenCloud on October 05, 2004, 03:03:48 AM
anton name the beer place..ill be there..

Is it too late to make films pyro..I would love to help,,,and gather pilots..
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: TheDudeDVant on October 05, 2004, 10:50:56 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why not just use a P-38L?  It's by far the sexiest plane in the game, it's the most uber fighter and people will flock to this game just to get a chance to fly the thing.  It could be the new spokesplane for AH, kind of like that little green lizard for that insurance company.



ack-ack


Extreme sound thinking here! This clearly proves the superior intellect of the P38 driver!!

I have some mighty nice filmages here and there..  Such as a P38 or 262 making a vertical pass thru several buff formations..
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: vorticon on October 05, 2004, 12:32:22 PM
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Originally posted by anton
Dedalos, think back to when you were a new player, what was gameplay like back then?  I assume you learned in that environment & adapted to it.

How is todays MA different? Do you think you would approach the game differently if you were a new player entering today? I think you would.

My opinion is that we should be focusing on gameplay before we work on acquiring more players.

Thank goodness I have a forum where I can post my opinions without being attacked:rofl


Anton


its easier to change gameplay when you have a bunch of unmolded players, rather than a high number of semi old players set in there ways.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: pellik on October 05, 2004, 02:29:49 PM
Here's an analogy [edited out the term allegory due to switching away from the origional narritive prose I intended when making this post] of player base using common household objects...

The player base in AH is like a pot of boiling water, with players being represented by individual molecules and player skill being represented by their respective molecule's energy state. The burner (that painful addiction we all feel glowing hot beneath us) is constantly increasing the energy state of the pot. The longer you stick around the higher your energy state will likely be. Many skilled players constantly leave as their energy state gets high enough to permit them to break free of the attractive hydrogen bond forces, but some terribly skilled players continue to bounce around inside the pot despite having a significantly higher then average amount of kinetic energy. If you fail to add new water every once in a while too much will have boiled off and the probability that even the talented and addicted players will shoot off in evaporation will increase. Adding too many new players will lower the energy level of the entier pot, yes, and frequent collisions with low energy particles will drag down the high skill level of those few super players. However, once that skill level is a little lower, they arn't nearly as likely to leave in evaporation. The addictive power of AH (the burner) will be greater as a direct result of the lower average skill level. There's always the DA when things get too bad.


-pellik
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: CurtissP-6EHawk on October 05, 2004, 03:04:10 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
Anton: I apoligize for liking to eat.


HiTech


gotta feed 436AK :D
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: kj714 on October 05, 2004, 04:18:40 PM
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Originally posted by anton
OK 2bighorn, first of all I dont believe yer story at all. Secondly If by some chance it is true, It was for 1 of 2 reasons: 1) my crappy cordless stick is giving me probs. or 2) you were part of a 30 man horde & I logged right after speaking my mind about it. Thirdly if you dont know what I have done to help, you must not know me at all. I always help new guys, & have been known to visit the TA & offer to share what I know, however limited it may be. I will admit I havent been in the TA for a while, likely cause I never see more than 3 or so there.

For those who question my business mentality: Let me say that I believe in standing behind high quality products and services. Let me simplify that for those mentally impaired. Quality over quantity.

Now if for some reason:rolleyes:  numbers have dropped for the first time in years, then I guess we could use more players. But really, the hordes don't need to get any bigger.

Anton


Dont'cha hate that non adjustable "sleep" mode the cordless j/s's go into after a couple of minutes?

Maybe a bunch of new players is what is needed to pop the horde balloon.  Think about it, new players join, get bored with the flying horde, go look for other things to do, voila, we have fights all over the map.  More people could mean more fights taking place, not necessarily a fatter horde.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: acepilot2 on October 05, 2004, 04:37:17 PM
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Originally posted by Pyro

4-  Tight furball action with lots of planes packed in close.


Hmm, a cool battle-of-britain furball with new hi-res 109s and spits would be great for a tv commercial.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: airbumba on October 05, 2004, 10:31:01 PM
boiling water doen't free an Hydrogen atom, only changes state. Try electrolysis.
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: pellik on October 05, 2004, 11:05:35 PM
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Originally posted by airbumba
boiling water doen't free an Hydrogen atom, only changes state. Try electrolysis.


I never said anything about freeing a hydrogen atom. I said a molecule. In this case I would be refering to a water molecule. That steam you see when you boil water is the water molecules escaping the pot.

-pellik

[Edit: An Hydrogen? Are you Brittish airbumba?]
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Masherbrum on October 06, 2004, 10:13:38 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
anton
come die in CT
the ratio of dweebs to decent sticks is better than MA, due to its low numbers
CT can always use another target :)
seriously - your post had to be a troll attempt
of course they want it to grow, its value to increase - maybe one day sell it off for a trillion dollars to gates & co - so what? if they didn't - they'd be insane
Ain't that the reason for creating it in the first place? Or was it suppose to be your private entertainment ....
what number should MA be capped at - 100, 200, 300 ??
it only takes one whiner to ruin a room, channel, or bbs thread...
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I found the CT quite boring and easy to get kills.  I never realized the "Cream of the Crop" fly in the CT?!  :aok

Karaya
Title: About the new TV commercial
Post by: Kev367th on October 06, 2004, 11:01:29 AM
If any Rooks or Knits wants, I am sure I could get a lot of our squad to mount a B17/P51 run and you could intercept with historically accurate planes.
Would be able to get some nice footage I guess.