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Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: Halo on October 05, 2004, 07:33:12 PM
Any of you have any recent experience in shipping your guns to members of your family who live elsewhere?  I'd like to pass on a couple of old family .22 rifles to my son who lives in another state, but from what I've researched so far on line and learned at a local gun shop, it may not be worth the hassle of trying to ship them either by US Mail or other carriers.

The obvious way is to just give them to him when he visits by car, but that doesn't happen often since we're on opposite coasts.  

Looks like nowadays family gun inheritance is either by picking up directly in personal vehicle or maybe visiting by air and then taking guns back in checked baggage.  

Any other ideas?
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: GreenCloud on October 05, 2004, 07:50:33 PM
How about this...Disasemble the rifles..put them in cardboard box with packing...go to post office store  label box as "machine parts"


Please make sure your kids have done Hunters Safty Course ; )



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Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: Dago on October 05, 2004, 07:59:39 PM
I may be wrong here, but I am pretty sure it is illegal to ship guns between individuals, family or not.  I think you need to have an FFL ship it to another FFL, and have your son pick it up.

Call you local gun shop to find out for sure.

dago
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: bigsky on October 05, 2004, 08:02:01 PM
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Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: tce2506 on October 05, 2004, 08:21:13 PM
Just ship them from your local gun store to his local gun store. Just clear it with both owners so they know what to look for.  Both shops will have FFL's and most shops will do this for a nominal fee. It's the same as if the shop bought them off of a dealer or manufacturer.
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: Scootter on October 05, 2004, 10:11:02 PM
no problem


break down send in sep. packages as car parts

barrel in a blueprint tube

end of story


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Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: capt. apathy on October 06, 2004, 01:00:56 AM
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Originally posted by Dago
I may be wrong here, but I am pretty sure it is illegal to ship guns between individuals, family or not.  I think you need to have an FFL ship it to another FFL, and have your son pick it up.

Call you local gun shop to find out for sure.

dago


that's my understanding also.
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: NUKE on October 06, 2004, 01:10:58 AM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
that's my understanding also.


I sold a mini-14, folding stock online about 4 years ago. I sent it through a gun dealer to another gun dealer in the buyer's area.....was the only way I could ship it as I remember.
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: GreenCloud on October 06, 2004, 01:56:44 AM
defnlty nuke ..i did sam eway...

but i dotn knwo how you can send to a kid...i guess it needs to go to his "custodians ' name for ffl purposes..which will require a  Hunters safty or a Firearms safty class then (i think its around $40) been 12 years since i did tht...and then about $30 for ffl transfer


or...ship it ..."machien parts"
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: lazs2 on October 06, 2004, 09:07:17 AM
I recently shipped (UPS)a Ruger Superblackhawk to Ruger and they fixed it and shipped it back to me.  I called them first and that is what they suggested.   I wrote "firearms parts" on the description.

lazs
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: aknimitz on October 06, 2004, 10:01:27 AM
Hiyas Lazs! You could do that because as long as the firearm is going directly to a manufacturer for repair, an individual may so ship.

Concerning the shipment of shotguns and rifles (NOT handguns) to other unlicensed individuals OUT OF STATE, you must use UPS or FedEx.  If you find a licensee (FFL)  in the State you are shipping to that will accept the shotgun and/or rifle, you can ship to that licensee by the U.S. Postal Service. No markings of any kind should be placed on the box indicating what the contents are.

You MAY ship shotguns and rifles INSTATE by the U.S. Postal Service. Same caveat regarding markings on box.

Handguns always require a common and/or contract carrier.

SO, the only way for you to legally ship a rifle (which fyi is defined as: "a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an explosive to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger") INTERSTATE, from a nonlicensee to a nonlicensee, is to use an FFL as an intermediary. It is important to note that you do NOT have to use an FFL on your end to ship the rifle, as long as the ultimate destination is an FFL in the foreign State. This FFL should would transfer the rifle to your son for a nominal fee, as discussed above, usually around $25.

Hope this helps.

Nim
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: Ripsnort on October 06, 2004, 10:03:21 AM
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Originally posted by aknimitz
Hiyas Lazs! You could do that because as long as the firearm is going directly to a manufacturer for repair, an individual may so ship.

Concerning the shipment of shotguns and rifles (NOT handguns) to other unlicensed individuals OUT OF STATE, you must use UPS or FedEx.  If you find a licensee (FFL)  in the State you are shipping to that will accept the shotgun and/or rifle, you can ship to that licensee by the U.S. Postal Service. No markings of any kind should be placed on the box indicating what the contents are.

You MAY ship shotguns and rifles INSTATE by the U.S. Postal Service. Same caveat regarding markings on box.

Handguns always require a common and/or contract carrier.

SO, the only way for you to legally ship a rifle (which fyi is defined as: "a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an explosive to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger") INTERSTATE, from a nonlicensee to a nonlicensee, is to use an FFL as an intermediary. It is important to note that you do NOT have to use an FFL on your end to ship the rifle, as long as the ultimate destination is an FFL in the foreign State. This FFL should would transfer the rifle to your son for a nominal fee, as discussed above, usually around $25.

Hope this helps.

Nim


Damn! Free legal advice! Thanks for the info Nimitz!
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: aknimitz on October 06, 2004, 10:08:29 AM
Anytime, brother. Missed you at the CON man ... wish you coulda made it.

S!
Nim
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: Halo on October 07, 2004, 04:27:35 PM
Thanks, guys, appreciate the advice.  Looks like I'll be shipping FFL to FFL for both rifles and handguns.  Everything gets more expensive when family lives on opposite coasts.
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: aknimitz on October 07, 2004, 05:05:32 PM
Halo, you do not have to ship FFL to FFL for rifles, only handguns. You do have to ship the rifle to an FFL, but you can do it yourself, you do not have to have a local FFL do it for you.

Nim
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: Halo on October 07, 2004, 09:09:26 PM
Thanks, Nim, but as long as handguns have to go FFL to FFL, I think I'd rather go ahead with FFL to FFL with both rifles and handguns.  The local FFL can do a better job than I can packing and shipping the guns.  Seems easier and smoother that way even if a little more expensive.
Title: Shipping Guns To Family
Post by: aknimitz on October 08, 2004, 08:50:06 AM
Yep, dont blame you.

Good luck! :)

Nim