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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Replicant on October 06, 2004, 10:09:03 AM
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Which military aircraft cockpits have you been in or would like to go in? Did the ones you've been in surprise you in anyway? Cramped? Logical layout? Did they make you wonder how they ever flew such things in combat?
Here's a list of ones I've been in...
WW2[/u]
Lancaster III - very roomy aircraft, good pilot view but nose bomb aimer section not as good as B-17. Fuselage much roomier than B-17 though.
B-17G - fuselage very cramped through bomb bay, but great cockpit and excellent nose section. Really surprised me how large it was up there. Waist gunners surprised me when I thought just how thin the aircraft skin was! :( Proabably my favourite aircraft to have been in.
Mosquito B35 - Bomber variant, surprisingly roomy probably due to staggered seating positions, very good visability.
Avro Anson I - very sweet twin.
Ju-52 - kind of reminded me of a old classic car... or rather a bus! Nice though!
Short Sunderland - fantastic aircraft, typically huge on the inside and I would guess very crew friendly. Seeing how the bombs swung out was really interesting.
Post War
Gloster Meteor F.8 - quite roomy for a fighter aircraft although I wouldn't want to spend too long in there.
EE Lightning - very cramped for such a large fighter aircraft. Didn't help not being unable to move the seat!
Hawker Hunter - roomier than the Lightning but still smaller than the Meteor.
B-52D - surprised me just how many crew stations there were and how claustrophobic it must have been for them. Pilot/co-pilot had arm chair like seats though! :)
DH Sea Vixen - very egonomic cockpit for such an old jet. Very comfortable.
DH Sea Venom & Vampire - cramped side-by-side, not for me! Jet Provost same sort of layout.
Fairy Gannet - sort of roomy, nothing too special, kind of imagine how the TBM would be.
F-111E - thing I noticed the most was trying not to smack your head on the canopy when trying to get in. Very, very old instruments but side by side looked rather comfy.
F-4J - Very sweet aircraft although I found the forward view somewhat limited because of the large frame around the toughened glass. Nice instrument layouts.
Harrier GR.3 (AV-8A) - pretty cramped and I wonder how they ever fought in these!
Harrier GR.7 (AV-8B) - very, very spacious, I would guess a pilots dream cockpit. Very well laid out and excellent visibility.
Avro Vulcan B.2 - for such a large aircraft it has a smaller cockpit than a Cessna 152! I can't imagine how they flew these without wanting to get out!
Panavia Tornado GR.1 - excellent layout, good visibility and very roomy. Nice!
Helicopters - Sea King, Wessex, Wasp, Huey UH-1. Wasp very cramped, especially trying to get in, but the others were great!
Aircraft I really would to have a look inside include B24, B25, B29, Hurricane, Spitfire and pretty much any German aircraft!
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Boeing B-17 'Sally-B'
Ju-52 (fuselage)
Short Sunderland
Antonov An-2
PBY Catalina
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Ah, Catalina, bet that was nice? Always liked the look of those side window pods, must have been great for observation!
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I'm 6' 5" so nothing I've been in is roomy except the F4E.
P-51D my shoulders are too wide while the 109G6 though snug I actually fit.
P-47J for as large an aircraft as it is the cockpit is awfully tight and you need to be short. No way for me to sit in there with the conopy closed and my helmet on.
He-111 has a very comfortable seating position for both pilot and co-pilot and the view is exceptional.
US2B Tracker is tight but I can get into and out of the co-pilots seat inflight without much trouble.
B-25J very cramped, I can only fit in the tail section.
Mig-15bis yes, Mig-17 no.
PantherF9F yes, Mig-21 hell no! My God you would have to be about 5 foot tall to fit in the Mig-21!
F-86E yes, Fokker D VII yes, Sopwith Camel no.
TBM-3E very roomy both pilot and navigator but no way can I get into the ball turret.
F-104A no, F-105F yes.
TS-11 Iskra tight but able to fit.
FM2 Wildcat yes, any Mk. of Spitfire no.
F4U Corsair yes, very roomy.
P-40N yes.
L3-B yes actually though with me in the back and a friend in the front I think we were over gross takeoff weight... very slow climb and once in cruise the traffic on the highway below was actually going faster than us!
N2S4 Stearman yes, AT-6 yes, PT-19 yes, PT-22 no.
:aok
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Flown in
BAe Hawk
Flown
Westland Lynx
Aerospatialle Gazelle
Chipmunk
Cockpit
Harrier
A10
Buccaneer
Spitfire
Vulcan
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C-47 cockpit.
Pretty cramped and cluttered. I could work in it, but it would be uncomfortable on long flights.
I am 5'11" and about 180lbs.
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Post-war A26 Invader "Spirit of Waco". Sat in the pilot's seat while plane was on display at a local airshow.
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Had a friend who owned a PBY I loved it!! Nothing bad to say. I fell in love with the look and feel and the way it sat in the water..just right.
Have flown a dc-3 (civilian version of the C-47). Cluttered to no end, noisy and unruly. Earned its name goony bird honestly.
Sat in P-51 I was in awe! What more can I say.
Flown the T-6 great plane but this one was REAL noisy
PT-17 a trip and then some. I want to own one when I get wealthy (right).
I was very lucky to start my flight training at the time when WW2 pilots were in there 50's and running flight schools. It opened a lot of very interesting doors for me.
Then the usual sit in walk arounds at air shows. I am amazed at how tight most of these thngs are. And crawling to a tail turrett must have taken some real cajones.
The thing that amzes me is how cluttered they feel, how tight they feel and how clumsy they look. I doubt I could have been a pilot in WW2. When I was in college (waaayyy back when) I had a friend who joined the Navy to be a fighter pilot. He was ~6 feet tall. He ended up flying "regular" planes because he was too tall for the aircraft.
Peace
Pillur
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Originally posted by VWE
TS-11 Iskra tight but able to fit.
What's one of those?
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Flown in
BAe Hawk
Flown
Westland Lynx
Aerospatialle Gazelle
Chipmunk
Cockpit
Harrier
A10
Buccaneer
Spitfire
Vulcan
Kev, you ex-AAC?
Love the Buccaneer, one of my favourite planes ever.
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ch53,mh53,ch46d,and e,harrier,v22,cobra,huey,c5,c130 the new j models ones are awesome.
been up close with a f16,f18,prowlers,warthogs,p40,whats the new bomber were getting? the liberator right? been in that one.
what sucked it that they just had the sounds of freedom air show at the airstation and they didnt bring too many ww2 aircraft with them.
:(
im sure there many more that ive either been in or at least climbed up and looked in the cockpit.
theres one more but i cant remember the designation, but it's still in use since the cold war, has a long wingspan and a thin fusallodge. it has fall of wheels on the wings during take off and can climb to what was it? 60-70k.
one more hint!
think! top secret and spy plane.
ohh and single engine:aok
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B-17
F-15
A6M
T-6 Texan
Stearman
Actually flew in the Stearman and the T-6, even got to operate the controls in the T-6. Sweet flying plane. Sat in the cockpit of the zero (same place that had the Texan).
Stearman owned by a guy running tours from a small airstrip on the North Shore. Took me on the route the Japanese used for their attack on Pearl Harbor and pointed out the original locations and dimensions of the airfields and bases as they were back in 41, as well as landmarks they used to stay on track. He can even show you the little airstrip (Haliewa) the P40s managed to take off from for their 7-man counterattack against the Japanese. I highly reccomend the tour if you ever visit. He also does acrobatic tours with loops and immels. Totally rocks. Thats my wife's b-day present to me every year. Flight in the Stearman (until it wears out or the guy dies I guess lol).
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B-17 Sentimental Journey and a Bf 109 fuselage when was about 11. I crawled in a Mig-15 about 2 years ago. Being 6'2" 275, it wasnt too comfy:D
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(http://www.shanaberger.com/images/TS-11.jpg)
TS-11 Iskra is a Polish jet trainer.
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Originally posted by Replicant
Avro Vulcan B.2 - for such a large aircraft it has a smaller cockpit than a Cessna 152! I can't imagine how they flew these without wanting to get out!
(http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/vulcan/full/col98a20.jpg)
Yes, it looks incredible cramped for an aircraft of that size.:eek:
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Flown in:
P-51
Cockpit:
F4U
Hellcat
P-47
P-38
B-17
B-25
B-24
C-47
P-51
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Flown:
T-34B
C-45
Siai Marchetti
T-6/SNJ
EA-6B Prowler (full motion sim)
L-3
Flown in:
B-17G http://www.avphoto.com/B17/
F-27 (Golden Knights)http://www.avphoto.com/oceana99/oceana99c.html
KC-135R twice (NH ANG)
L-2
L-17
P-51D http://www.avphoto.com/arlington2002/p51invert.html
C-2A Greyhound (trap and cat on USS Enterprise for last launch of the A-6E Intruder) http://www.avphoto.com/intruder.html
MiG
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Originally posted by mora
(http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/vulcan/full/col98a20.jpg)
Yes, it looks incredible cramped for an aircraft of that size.:eek:
Hehe, just looking at that brings tears to my eyes! I about castrated myself getting out of there! There's a small ladder that you have to climb to get to the pilot & co-pilot seats and then squeeze through a gap that's about 20cm. When seated there's a porthole window right next to your head, about 10-15cm away. It just felt very claustrophobic! At least in the back it's more spacious. I think there's three seats and a large desk for the navigator, flight engineer etc. Unfortunately they don't have ejector seats and they have to slide down the access hatch to bail out. Needless to say many were killed during accidents.
I believe the Vulcan was originally designed to only have one pilots seat, hence why it's so cramped.
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Flown in none, but been up inside the cockpits of the B52 and B1B. B1 was very tight...all payload. B1bs I was in were "Lead Sled" and "The Silver Bullet".
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I've been in the cockpits of F-111, F-106, F-15, F-16, F4-E, A-10, B-52, T-33, MiG 15, MiG 17, MiG 19, MiG 21 and MiG 23. I've also ridden in the cargo holds of C-130's and C-141's :-)
*edit* might be others too that aI am forgetting atm.
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flown in the B-17 "909"
flown in B-24 "Dragon and its Tail"
Gto a personnel tour by war tiem crew memeber of
B-29 "FiFi"
I crwled thru the tunnel to the Centeral Fire control "waist gun area" then sat in the tail gunners seat ...wow..lonlely place to be ..cut off in your own pressurized ball
sitting in the nose of the b-29 was like sitting in Darth Vaders Seat in the DeathStar..DAM BIG window..
been thru a bunch of Air Force rides during Travis AFB shows..
C-5s c-130s..ect...
yes seeing all the open control cabels whiel flying in both the b-24 and b17s makes me shiver..seemed really easy for shrpanel to sver lines..; (
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ahh btw..seeing th echanges in technology compareing the b-29 to both b-24,17s is amazing the advancement..The Fire controls?..dammm badddazz in b-29
sat in guys P-51 "Thunder"? cant remebr the name..its a smaller scale p-51..tht thing is baddazzzzz
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Nexx,
Even you and I could sit side by side in this Heinkel 111. This is the one at Falcon Field, Arizona. I was also in the B17G there - walked/crawled along its length, but you've done that so I won't post my pics.
I've also been in the Concorde cockpit - the Yeovilton one, but you said military...
By the way, did you go to that 50th anniversary Battle of Britain airshow at Boscombe Down in 1990? Best freaking airshow I ever saw. :eek: The Avro Vulcan was there, and I remember it well because that Vulcan was the loudest plane we saw/heard at the entire event.
There was also a Lockheed C5 Galaxy - we'd do well in that. The cockpit is as big as the dining room at one of my former houses.
Heinkel 111
(http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/heinkel111cockpit.jpg)
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The List is too long to try to remember them all.
a few highlights.
A dozen or so B17s
A bunch of B25s
Several B29s including Bocks Car.
SR 71, F117
B36 and B52
a couple dozen C47s
way to many transports, from WW2 to Modern.
A Sunderlund, PBY and some other flying boats
Lots more Im not thinking of.
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Replicant - Was aircraft technician in REME. Usually got to have a play with aircraft after any flight tests had been completed and were on way home.
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WW2
Boeing B-17G "Flying Fortress" (Cockpit)
Douglas C-47A "Sky Train" (Cockpit)
North American B-25 "Mitchell" "YELLOW ROSE" (Cockpit)
North American P-51D Mustang 55th Fighter Group "Gun Fighter" (Cockpit)
North American T-6 "Texan" (Cockpit)
Republic P-47D-40-RA "Thunderbolt" 366th FG "TARHEEL HAL" (Cockpit)
Post War
Boeing B-52 "Stratofortress" (Cockpit)
Grumman F-14 "Tomcat" VF-103 Jolly Rogers (Cockpit)
Republic A-10 "Thunderbolt II" (Cockpit)
For more, I have few Air Show pictures on online, so check it out at: http://www.war-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15692
*Note I'm Leatherneck, just a reminder"
(http://www.war-forums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6027)
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Originally posted by beet1e
Nexx,
I've also been in the Concorde cockpit - the Yeovilton one, but you said military...
By the way, did you go to that 50th anniversary Battle of Britain airshow at Boscombe Down in 1990? Best freaking airshow I ever saw. :eek: The Avro Vulcan was there, and I remember it well because that Vulcan was the loudest plane we saw/heard at the entire event.
There was also a Lockheed C5 Galaxy - we'd do well in that. The cockpit is as big as the dining room at one of my former houses.
I've been in the Concorde prototype at Duxford. They usually have the cockpit closed off but I went on a 'Friends of Duxford' evening and managed to gain access to the cockpit. I didn't read the "do's and don'ts" and sat in the pilots seat, which of course I wasn't supposed to! Ooops! Apparently last person to sit there was Richard Branson! :)
I will really miss the 'Friends of Duxford' evenings while I'm away in Germany. They rotate the aircraft that you can gain entry and over the next few years I would have been able to access the B29, B24, Buccaneer, among many others (I'd love to have a look inside the TSR2!!!!). I did manage to go inside some of the tanks that they have there too. The only WW2 tank being the JS2M.
I've walked through a C5 Galaxy but never been in the cockpit and I can certainly imagine how large it be inside!
Oh, there's also a Halifax walk through at Imperial War Museum Lambeth Walk.
Unfortunately I didn't attend the Boscombe Down airshow. I used to attend many airshows between 1981 - 1991 that included Honington, Finningley (a couple of times), Mildenhall (82-91), Alconbury, Duxford, Cottesmore, Brawdy... I didn't get back into aircraft until about 1999! Anyway, yes, the Vulcan was an incredibly impressive plane at airshows! It's hard to say whether it was the loudest, where it must compete with the Lightning, F-15, B-1B, a pair of F-111s breaking the soundbarrier (quite illegally!) at Mildenhall in 1983-ish? Those were the days! :)
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Replicant - Was aircraft technician in REME. Usually got to have a play with aircraft after any flight tests had been completed and were on way home.
When did you leave? My uncle was in the REME and a friend was too, him being a helicopter technician like yourself.
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me110
me109
me262
p51
p47
grumman avenger
c47
ac130
c17
c5
c141
ch47
uh1
uh60
f16
a10
f18
b52
b36
b17
b24
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I have not had the chance to sit in any WWII planes. Wish I could of tho as it seems like I could take a step back into time and see what the crews and pilots had to go thru with their rides.
I have jumped out of:
C130
C141
Rode in helicopters too
Blackhawk
Huey
Chinook
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Flown:
T-41 (a Cessna 172 with a 210 HP engine)
T-37B
T-38C
Flown in:
C-130
C-141
KC-135
F-15D
UH-1
UV-18B (AF Academy's jump plane)
Been in:
B-17
A-10
*B-1b
C-5
C-17
F-16
T-1
T-6 Texan II (new trainer to replace the T-37, not the old WWII T-6)
MH-53
HH-60
All the old presidential planes on display in the AF Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB, including the 707 that Kennedy's casket was flown in
* Will be flying starting in January
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I've flown an SNJ and an O-2 (aka cessna skymaster). SNJ cockpit was roomy, and I am a BIG boy. O-2 was roomy, but uncomfortable compared to the civilian version.
shubie
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I've had the opportunity to fly in a TBM that was very nicely restored by the Twin Falls Warbirds.I found it to very roomy in the radioman,gunner positions.It was an awesome experince for me.
Been on the B17 Sentimental Journey,and was surprised at the conditions the crew had to put up with.That poor ball turret gunner!
I have flown on numerous C130's,Slicks,and on one occaision,was in Huey that had to put down in the South China Sea.The good lord was with me on that one.I have also seen the insides of F4 Phantom,A4 Skyhawk,F8 Crusader,and the old Skyraider prop job.The plane captains woudn't let this ol Jarhead sit in the cockpits though.
IronDog
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Been inside cockpits of:
Fighters: F-15, F-16, F-4 Phantom, T-38, A-10, Mig-29
Recon: U-2, SR-71
Helo: MH-53J, UH-60
Heavys: C-5, C-141, C-130, KC-135, KC-10, B-52
At least thats what I can remember, maybe more.
Originally posted by 68DevilM
theres one more but i cant remember the designation, but it's still in use since the cold war, has a long wingspan and a thin fusallodge. it has fall of wheels on the wings during take off and can climb to what was it? 60-70k.
one more hint!
think! top secret and spy plane.
ohh and single engine:aok [/B]
Devil, You are speaking of the U-2. Where were you that you were able to get into one. I have worked them on and off for the last 14 years.
RHIN0
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Sat in Cockpit:
B-52
F-111
F-101
T-38
T-37
F-15
F-16B
F-16C(crew cheif)
F-4E (crew cheif)
F-4D (crew cheif)
Migs 19,21,25
C-5
C-130
Harrier
Flown in:
C-5
C-130
F-4E
Here's some shots from my F4E ride (sorry about the poor photo quality)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/612_1097106170_jet1.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/612_1097106208_jet2.jpg)
This is from the rear seat with our wingman crossing over.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/612_1097106263_jet4airborn.jpg)
During a spouse appreciation day my wife got a high speed taxi ride in an F-4E. Here she is all strapped in and ready to go :)
Do I look worried? Heck no! I preflighted that Phantom myself!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/612_1097106239_jet3taxiride.jpg)
Sun
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Replicant - Left May 1993
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Cockpit? too many to remember all, but what stands out was
P-51
F4U
Tiger moth (actually had a ride in one when I was a kid too)
ME108
Sea Fury
F15, F16, F111, Saab Viggen....on and on (ex-military)
Flown in:
Tigermoth
C-47
CF-18
(almost had a ride in a F4U with a back "jump seat" but thats a long story.)
Numerous non applicable types
Flown:
Enstrom (helicopter)
Bell 206 (helicopter)
Eurocopter AS350, "Astar" (helicopter, several models)
Robinson R44 (helicopter)
Hughs 500 (helicopter)
(had alot of "stick time" with the CF-18)
LOL any guesses as to what my occupation is?
RTR
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B-24J
B-17, not sure of model number
P-51D
F/A-18 - They do carrier flight trainings at an airport not too far away. My Granddad was a big helper and worker there so I got to sit in one before they did training. :)
Antov AN-2 "Big Bubbinski"
(http://www.radford.edu/~chermann/aerial/bubbinski.jpg)
One helicopter: Sat in the bay of a Blackhawk at an airshow.
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6 feet, 205lbs.
Sat in:
HA-1112 M1L ( Bf-109G-2 ). Just fit, no possible way to fly. Rudder pedals way too short, canopy just closed, shoulders jammed in. Worse visibility than the P-51 ( and that is saying something ).
Yak-3, not so cramped, but shoulders against canopy rails, canopy very tight. Might be possible to fly, but not for long.
P-51D. Room for me, comfortable, well laid out. Pedals adjust, would be flyable. Room under the canopy, very well laid out.
P-51C. Same size, much different instrument layout. As I remember, some of the controls are in different locations.
B-26C. Flyable, about as much room as the P-51, as I remember ( the aircraft was lost in an accident in '95 )
C-47. Cramped for such a large airplane. Short pedals for me. Yoke hit legs. Would be a challenge to fly.
Mig-29. Very narrow. Might be just possible to fly.
An-225. Freaking huge AC. 1.5 times the size of the C-5. Flight deck 2 stories off the ground. Lots of room...
F4U. It's a LONG WAY to the ground. Cockpit very large. Flyable for me. Visibility problematic.
B-24. Room to fly. Even the WWII bombers are cramped to keep stuff within reach.
B-29. Good visibility but more cramped than it looks like.
C-46. A little cramped for me. You sit very high, Visibility really good. Flyable.
B-1. Crammed in, feels very much like a fighter.
Flown in:
P-51D. Smooth as silk, noisier than you can imagine, instant steam-bath in summer.
C-46. Roomy, noisy ( you'd expect that ). Stable, windy.
Kate. Modified T-6, probably very like it. Good visibility, noisy, windy.
C-47. Stable, noisy, sits at steep angle...
B-25. Noisy, stiff, vibrates a lot.
Flown:
B-17. Slow control response, heavy pressure, very stable. You feel the engines but hear the wind. Surprisingly poor visiblity, less rom than you'd expect, but not uncomfortable.
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Flown in
CH-47
CH-53
C-130
Good ol USMC times
Flown full motion sim
AV-8B
Been in Pit of
AV-8B
FA-18 (forgot what model)
F-5 (agressor variant)
V-22 Osprey
All modern stuff since I can't list all the old stuff, too many to remember.
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Flew in Collings Foundation B24J
Have been in the cockpit of
Battle of Britain Flight Spitfire II
P51C Mustang
P51D Mustang
T6
C47
Toured a couple of different B17s over the years
Crawled around in a B25J
Postwar stuff
F4C cockpit
RF4C cockpit
F102
C130
Dan/Slack
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Some of you make me very jealous... seen all of these planes during airshows or when in museums though.
Anyway, cannot remember much about the Catalina... I must have been about 9 years old, it was on display on the grounds of a swimming pool I believe, completely stripped inside.
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:cool:
(http://filip.sotiko.pl/trip/cracow16.jpg)
(http://filip.sotiko.pl/trip/cracow15.jpg)
others are:
109G-6
PZL P11C
some WWI birds (including Camel)
whole bunch of MIG's
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My modest list:
Bristol Bulldog
MiG-15bis
Folland Gnat
-C+
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B17, B24, He111, P47, T6, C47, F4U4
I still want to get into a P38 but there are none in my area.
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Been flying (double seater of course) the P-51D "Miss Torque" in New Zealand at the Wanaka Airfield for about 45 minutes ... plenty of hammerheads, split-ess, wing-overs, immelmanns and so on :D
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/registry/p51registry/images/p51-4473420-1.jpg)
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Kev,
I was REME too, went through depot at Arborfield and trade training at Bordon, VM
I bet you went through the apprentices college at Arborfield
wipass
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Flown In
Gazelle (RAF Shawbury Trainer)
Lightning (5 Sqn RAF Binbrook Twin sticker)
Hercules (Armourer aircrew RAF Lyneham)
Tornado GR1 (XV Sqn RAF Laarbruch)
Tornado F3 (111Sqn RAF Leuchars)
Tucano (RAF Cranwell 1 FTS)
F-16 (Dutch Air Force)
Sat In
Harrier GR3
F-18
TSR-2 (RAF Cosford)
Buccaneer
Jet Provost
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Originally posted by SteffK
Flown In
Gazelle (RAF Shawbury Trainer)
Lightning (5 Sqn RAF Binbrook Twin sticker)
Hercules (Armourer aircrew RAF Lyneham)
Tornado GR1 (XV Sqn RAF Laarbruch)
Tornado F3 (111Sqn RAF Leuchars)
Tucano (RAF Cranwell 1 FTS)
F-16 (Dutch Air Force)
Sat In
Harrier GR3
F-18
TSR-2 (RAF Cosford)
Buccaneer
Jet Provost
Where do you work now?
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Replicant - Left May 1993
Don't suppose you knew a Carl Barnett?
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Where do I work now?
After over 9 years in the RAF I went to University, got my degree and now work in Leicester in an Office :( LOL
Why?
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RF-4E Phantom
Saab J-35 Draken
Mig-21Bis
Bristol Bulldog
C-130 Hercules
Iljushin IL-76
Saab Safir (Only the cockpit section left)
Mil Mi-26 'Halo'
Mil Mi-8 'Hip'
Mil Mi-2 'Hoplite'
Antonov An-2
Those helos and the An-2 weren't used by any military. Just added them as they've seen a lot military use as well in different air forces.
...so not too many. :(
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Wipass - Went through basic training at Arborfield, trade training AETW Middle Wallop, returned to Middle Wallop (it was then SAE) for upgraders course.
First unit was 665 Sqn Oakington, before it became part of 4 Rgt.
Did a regular tour with with 655 Sqn Aldergorve and numerous 6 month tours there.
Spent time with 71Ac Wksp Dethmold oops I mean Detmold.
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Originally posted by SteffK
After over 9 years in the RAF I went to University, got my degree and now work in Leicester in an Office :( LOL
Why?
Ah, I noticed you were in Loughborough, I live 20 miles from Leicester at the moment (move to Germany next week). I work at RAF Cottesmore.
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O-1/L-19
O-2
O-10
T-37
T-38
A-10A
A-7
F-15
F-16
U-2
Harrier
C-130
F-111
F-4
F-105
Mig-21
Mig-15
Mig-17
Me-262
Hurricane
Spitfire Mk.IIX
Me-109 (Casa really)
B-25
B-17
B-24
He-111
P-51
F4U
Sopwith Pup (r)
Fokker D.7 (r)
and a few others
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great pictures!! ive been in love with the F4 since the first time that i ever saw one.
Originally posted by Sundowner
Sat in Cockpit:
B-52
F-111
F-101
T-38
T-37
F-15
F-16B
F-16C(crew cheif)
F-4E (crew cheif)
F-4D (crew cheif)
Migs 19,21,25
C-5
C-130
Harrier
Flown in:
C-5
C-130
F-4E
Here's some shots from my F4E ride (sorry about the poor photo quality)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/612_1097106170_jet1.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/612_1097106208_jet2.jpg)
This is from the rear seat with our wingman crossing over.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/612_1097106263_jet4airborn.jpg)
During a spouse appreciation day my wife got a high speed taxi ride in an F-4E. Here she is all strapped in and ready to go :)
Do I look worried? Heck no! I preflighted that Phantom myself!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/612_1097106239_jet3taxiride.jpg)
Sun
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Replicant,
What r u? Am ex-Armourer
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Originally posted by SteffK
Replicant,
What r u? Am ex-Armourer
Civil Servant ;) Was at North Luffenham in '97 and then Cottesmore since beginning of '98. Moving to Münich next week to what used to be NAMMA.
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Flown
F-18 REAL NICE layout good fell in love with the gal in the computer.
Itallian prop military trainer [for got name] 400 mph 3 kills in it.[honest]... tight fit but forgot about it when other plane on my tail.
responsive plane.[ never never turn plane on back at 4500 feet to do a bottom loop ,never] lol. Parachute was a pain.
good ole cessna.
Cockpits
spitfire [not 6 feet 5 lol]
2 others.
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Demaw!!! where have you been?
do you still fly MA?
i miss getting my spit wing shredded by your buffs!
Flown:
cessna 152 - :lol
chipmonk
some other RAF cadet trainer i dont remember - bulldog maybe if there is such a plane??
but my favorite has to be a whole day of gliding lessons. i flew and landed on my first go up :). did my first ever loop 2000ft over my house!
flown in:
VC-10 - louder than an A-bomb
gazelle - TA cadets, night black fire exercises. i was the 'eye in the sky' for one night, although we never flew over 30ft i swear!
sea king
never flown or flown in any WW2 planes :(
hope to build and own a spitfire before i die
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Pilot in command :
EuroCub mark1 and mark 4
Pegsaus Q-wing
Mainair flash2 Alpha
MAinair Blade
Avid Catalina
Some sticktimek in :
An-2
SK60 jet trainer
Bellanca aerobatic
Glider ASK
Laker (seaplane)
bulldog
cessna 162
cherokee (180hp)
cocpit :
JA-35 draken
JA37 Viggen
tummelisa
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F-106A/B T-33 B-58 F-105 A-4 EA-6 EA-6B AV-8
F-15A/B/C/D/S F-16A/B/C/D F-18A F-4E/F/G F-117
All ckpts for above acft are not ment for big people.
C-141 C-130 C-5 C-17 ckpts are roomy
Flown in F-16D, reg T/O dropped a couple BDU-33s and fired gun.
F-15B did full AB T/O max climb. Pulled 7.5 Gs, made my neck hurt
for a couple days and am happy to say for both flts I did not get
sick. Even tho both pilots did thier darnest.:lol
What can I say, 20 yrs in USAF as a Crew Chief. Got to work and
see a whole bunch of acft.
SCDR
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Rotary Wing:
UH-1
UH-60
CH-57
CH-53
AH-64
Fixed Wing:
B-17
B-25
B-50
B-52
C-5
C-17
C-130
C-141
KC-10
KC-135
Simulators:
A-10
F-111
KC-135
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Hi.
Flown in:
VC-10..dont sit near the cargo door...it rains!!!
Tri-star...comfy plane but gets boring after two 8 hour stints hehe got to love going down south!
C130..Nothing beats setting up yr hamock ,getting in yr magot n sleeping till the loadie brings you yr inflight meal :)
Andover (hs748)was made to run up n down the isle with the loadie, pilot n rest of the pax......nav was flying .....
Chinnook.....scarey low level flight in the falklands.....chinnook crews are all mad!!!
Gazelle....nice flight to Themes barrier then back to Northolt to scare the air trafficers with a low pass on the tower
Chipmunk...nice :)
Been in but not flown in:
Shackelton....good view's fm nose n tail..but you can see the ground through holes in the floor from radar op's position .....
Lightning....cramped!!!!
Spitfire ...amazing just being in it:)
c17..very high tech..n big!!!