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Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: hitech on October 07, 2004, 03:14:23 PM: Cool Stuff (http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/film51.avi)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Karnak on October 07, 2004, 03:19:33 PM: Thanks HiTech. Downloading slowly now.

I love looking at cool stuff. ;)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: VWE on October 07, 2004, 03:20:11 PM: Guess I'll have to read that at home... my work server blocks that link, I'm sure they think its a gamling site 'AcesHigh' and all... :D
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: SunKing on October 07, 2004, 03:44:56 PM: These are the greatest threads!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Elfie on October 07, 2004, 03:54:02 PM: When I click on the *cool stuff* link WMP opens and then says *connecting*, but nothing else :(
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: SunKing on October 07, 2004, 03:58:36 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
When I click on the *cool stuff* link WMP opens and then says *connecting*, but nothing else :(

5 oclock rushhour Bandwidth traffic jam
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: JB73 on October 07, 2004, 04:05:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SunKing
5 oclock rushhour Bandwidth traffic jam
LOL soo true.

at work on a LAN with a fiber optic connect to the intardnet...

2hours 14 min remaining on DL.

even google takes 30 seconds to open tonight.

must be a major router out somewhere on a backbone
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Waffle on October 07, 2004, 04:06:56 PM: well its not a hoax or a fishing trip, but 39.5mb transferring at 5kb/s - will take about 2. hours :)
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Post by: 101ABN on October 07, 2004, 04:15:17 PM: wow, a 2 1/2 hour download.... got the short version?? ha ha
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Waffle on October 07, 2004, 04:16:58 PM: WooHoo!!

Submerines!!!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: vorticon on October 07, 2004, 04:23:08 PM: im just going to watch the first mb...
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: 2bighorn on October 07, 2004, 04:33:41 PM: Hitech, is it possible to mirror the file somewhere?

3.7 KB/sec right now...
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Morpheus on October 07, 2004, 04:45:12 PM: I thought it was just my connection.

Glad to hear that others are suffering as well. :)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Octavius on October 07, 2004, 04:49:10 PM: Waffle you banana! Don't tease :D
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Skuzzy on October 07, 2004, 04:50:05 PM: I am moving the file to our download server. Give me a minute.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Karnak on October 07, 2004, 04:56:33 PM: Well, I got down to 1 second to go and it conked out on me.:(

Now I can't even access it.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Waffle on October 07, 2004, 04:57:42 PM: Yeah Skuzzy, and while you're at that - Shouldn't this be in the "Films and Screenshots" forum as per Rule 1 in the Forum Rules :)

Gotta keep the whips on these BB heathens!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: TexMurphy on October 07, 2004, 05:01:40 PM: HT

The water looks great though could use some more improvement. Especially the color its still way too blue. It should be greyed down quite a bit.

A game that has great looking water and shows a good and realistic water color is "Virtual Skipper 3". I would recommend getting hold of a copy and studying that water, its truely great.

If you cant get hold of it I can provide you with a few screenies, but my graphics card doesnt do it justice.

Tex
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Waffle on October 07, 2004, 05:03:18 PM: Who said anything about teasing with submarines? look above at the water post :)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: 2bighorn on October 07, 2004, 05:10:46 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Well, I got down to 1 second to go and it conked out on me.:(

Now I can't even access it.

Same here :(
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: xHaMmeRx on October 07, 2004, 05:11:55 PM: Page not found http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/film51.avi:confused:
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Skuzzy on October 07, 2004, 05:12:08 PM: Sit tight folks. Its uploading now.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Morpheus on October 07, 2004, 05:12:10 PM: Waffle is you are BS'ing I will drive to Texas and put Kerry signs all over your front lawn!!! :D
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: ALF on October 07, 2004, 05:15:19 PM: I'll Mirror it if things get to hairy later tonight
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: eilif on October 07, 2004, 05:16:59 PM: wow thats a big improvement on the water we got now, nice start on the reflections too.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Waffle on October 07, 2004, 05:18:40 PM: ahh - you guys didn't get to the part with the periscope in the water yet, have you?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: kj714 on October 07, 2004, 05:19:39 PM: what! New Stuff?

I thought you guys were busy eating.....
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: JB73 on October 07, 2004, 05:20:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Sit tight folks.
thats like asking an La7 pilot not to HO

LOL

<> JK skuzzy, hehehehehe

i am sure it will be avaliable soon enough.

whoot 349k hahaha WTFG skuzzy

off topic is the whole intardnet slow tonight or is it just me?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Kaz on October 07, 2004, 05:22:42 PM: Thought it was just me 73 must be the net
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Skuzzy on October 07, 2004, 05:22:46 PM: Ok guys, you can grab i now. Incase your browser has cached HT's link, here is the new one:

Get Cool goodies! (http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/film51.avi)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Waffle on October 07, 2004, 05:24:21 PM: hehe "get cool goodies"

sounds like girl scout cookie time :)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Cooley on October 07, 2004, 05:27:48 PM: Nice water,
Looks too blue to me also, unless that was off the coast of the Cayman Islands
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Wotan on October 07, 2004, 05:28:09 PM: Its kinda hard to get a good visual but the water is looking good.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: JB73 on October 07, 2004, 05:28:43 PM: WTFG ~~water looks awsome... and the Sub periscope looked real.~~
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: 2bighorn on October 07, 2004, 05:32:11 PM: Color can be fixed, what's important, water looks liquid now, woohoo!!!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: TequilaChaser on October 07, 2004, 05:33:01 PM: :aok keep em coming!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Citabria on October 07, 2004, 05:34:45 PM: hell yeah go all out pacific style.
i am sick of this european sludge water and dreary terrain :)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: mason22 on October 07, 2004, 05:37:23 PM: are those reflections of the horizon, or just a visual illusion?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Citabria on October 07, 2004, 05:43:11 PM: can we get different colors of water to simulate shallow and deep water?

ie blue green shallow and darker blue offshore? editor modifiable of course :)

think midway atoll

if so there is some serious pacific island work i want to do for some terrains and pacific is all about blue green water around the islands and darker blue water out at sea
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Kaz on October 07, 2004, 05:46:54 PM: Wow! I like, I like a LOT.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: llama on October 07, 2004, 05:47:08 PM: Sure its pretty nice, but it makes me want to pee...

-Llama
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: debuman on October 07, 2004, 05:55:25 PM: I think it looks a little too blue also, but it's a huge improvement over the shag carpet look of the old stuff! Now if they could add the beaches like the other flight sim.....
Question: is this new type of more realistic scenery going to require MORE computer upgrades, or would it still run on the systems we are using now...?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: A_Clown on October 07, 2004, 05:56:39 PM: Mmmmmm Candy.

Candy is always great, especially when accompanied by food of substance.

A_Clown
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Karnak on October 07, 2004, 06:04:30 PM: HiTech is trying to make me build a new computer. I can't afford it, but I must build a new computer.
Quote
Originally posted by Citabria
hell yeah go all out pacific style.
i am sick of this european sludge water and dreary terrain :)

B-24J and Ki-84 also == Pacific Theater.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: SELECTOR on October 07, 2004, 06:11:20 PM: how long to D/L?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 07, 2004, 06:11:24 PM: Is this gona effect FR ?? Looks great! :aok
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Midnight on October 07, 2004, 06:13:34 PM: All I see is a gray screen in the movie.. What plugin do I need to see this? I'm using Windows Media Player 9.00.00.3250
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Octavius on October 07, 2004, 06:14:14 PM: (http://www.computerpannen.com/cwm/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif)

Looks like the water from Joint Operations :)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Replicant on October 07, 2004, 06:14:55 PM: What's supposed to be 'cool' about it? The light effect on the water?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: SELECTOR on October 07, 2004, 06:20:03 PM: sorry but its just not downloading
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Replicant on October 07, 2004, 06:21:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SELECTOR
sorry but its just not downloading

Tried right mouse clicking and saving target?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: daddog on October 07, 2004, 06:26:45 PM: Very nice.
:aok
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: mechanic on October 07, 2004, 06:41:09 PM: nice visual , but howcome a short movie like that took me 30 mins to d/L?? :lol

the BIG question is:

Are we going to see splashes and white water when the surface is breached by say, the plane i just shot down, ditching, bullets, and even as far as rippled wake on extremely low flying aircraft?

they can do it on monkey ball 2 on the game cube consol.

you can do it ht, make the candy sweet!

bat
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Elfie on October 07, 2004, 06:45:03 PM: Watched it 3 times, I didnt see a periscope anywhere.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: MOSQ on October 07, 2004, 06:46:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
Watched it 3 times, I didnt see a periscope anywhere.

But the Mermaid is one sweet looking babe!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Don on October 07, 2004, 06:57:02 PM: My compliments
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Post by: kj714 on October 07, 2004, 07:24:14 PM: Hmmm, I have to cook up a plan to get a couple of new computers, this'll kill me for sure!

Looks very nice though. Can we have a surf fishing option out of the hangar?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Mister Fork on October 07, 2004, 07:40:55 PM: :aok

Now, how about stormy seas and swells for the ships? :D
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: thebest1 on October 07, 2004, 07:53:51 PM: i right clicked and chose save as and it worked.
HTC u had to see my face when i saw this it was kinda like this >>>:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: WTFG u guys rule but will this dramstically effect FRPS?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: RTSigma on October 07, 2004, 08:05:17 PM: Bye bye framerate
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Edbert1 on October 07, 2004, 08:15:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
Watched it 3 times, I didnt see a periscope anywhere.

Elfie, you've been around long enough...suprised you swallowed that hook, the bait was so poorly attached it had fallen off and you still bit!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Sp4de on October 07, 2004, 08:27:55 PM: I wish i could jump out of a p51d and fly like that:(

ITS A TRICK ISNT IT HTC!! YOUR ALWAYS FLYING AROUND THE MA!! I KNEW IT!! AND THE MONKEYS ON THE LAWN MWUEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEEHEH EHEHEEH
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Post by: Midnight on October 07, 2004, 08:46:31 PM: I've tried a bunch of things, and no matter what I do, all I see is a gray screen for the movie.. what do I need to see this thing?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Octavius on October 07, 2004, 08:59:54 PM: Probably a codec Midnight. Try getting this: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm

or this:

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Codec_Pack_All_in_1.htm

You don't have to install the Classic Media Player if you dont want to. I use it - I dont like M$ getting a list of everything I watch.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Halo on October 07, 2004, 10:08:27 PM: Okay, I surrender. Downloaded the file several times, updated my QuickTime, even added some extra QT goodies, but still all I see is the gray movie bar underneath a blank screen.

QuickTime message says: "QuickTime is missing software required to perform this operation. Unfortunately, it is not available on the QuickTime server."

What do I need and where do I get it?

UPDATE:

Latest QuickTime wouldn't play clip, so switched to Windows Media Player 10 and the clip played fine.

Comment on clip: I've heard of throwing a dog a bone, but a screen of water...?

Looks good. Would love to see a gorgeous blue-green in shallower water edges, particularly in Pacific.

And ... any possibility of some wave action as in MS Flight Sim 2004?
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Post by: doobs on October 07, 2004, 10:10:54 PM: Forget the Mermaids and Sub's, I was blown away by the sharks and seagulls.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: JB73 on October 07, 2004, 10:31:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Halo
Okay, I surrender. Downloaded the file several times, updated my QuickTime, even added some extra QT goodies, but still all I see is the gray movie bar underneath a blank screen.

QuickTime message says: "QuickTime is missing software required to perform this operation. Unfortunately, it is not available on the QuickTime server."

What do I need and where do I get it?
not a QT movie.. need windows media player
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: GScholz on October 07, 2004, 10:57:59 PM: Very nice indeed! :)
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Post by: Mitsu on October 07, 2004, 11:04:01 PM: Wooooooooot!!!!! great stuff!
That is what I wanted in AH recently.
great job! :aok
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Mitsu on October 07, 2004, 11:18:59 PM: I hope next cool stuff for 2.02 would be this :)

Cloud layers...

(http://blog.livedoor.jp/mitty_m/45c3c641.jpg)
(I took this photo at Aso Kyushu, Japan yesterday)
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on October 07, 2004, 11:34:26 PM: That aint too bue, its just like the water in Croatia!
Title: Download Problems? None here!
Post by: RobMo68 on October 08, 2004, 06:37:03 AM: 2mins 30secs through MSN on Verizon DSL !
It's a good start but needs some work, as noted by others (ie darker color for deeper water, lighter for shallows) and transparency with wave effects, would be even better. Any chance of adding mannable submarines to the list of ships, but making them separate from CV groups!
Another area that needs some improvement would be ground textures, instead of just using the same shades of green (like most of the M A maps) use darker colors for mountains (browns, blacks) and other colors on hills or flatlands, to give the terain a little better definition.
I think this all is going to kill frame rates even more, but what game doesn't suffer the Eye Candy Blues!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Hammy on October 08, 2004, 06:38:09 AM: wow, hitech must have been flying the NIK to get that film, always knew it had more characteristics of an Apache than a WW2 plane lol :rofl
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Post by: Gixer on October 08, 2004, 07:00:59 AM: Ummmm. This effect close to release or still early stages?

~~...-Gixer~~
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Post by: mipoikel on October 08, 2004, 07:14:41 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Gixer
Ummmm. This effect close to release or still early stages?

~~...-Gixer~~

~~If I understood it right, it should come this month. = 2 weeks!:D~~
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Westy on October 08, 2004, 07:21:25 AM: The sparkling effect seen from high up is a bit sharp and bright but over all a serious nod of appreciation and one big "WOW!" from me. I really like that. A lot.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: nopoop on October 08, 2004, 08:43:15 AM: Fantastic. I would slow down the shimmer effect and see what that looks like. At altitude I don't think it should sparkle as much as it does.

Good start !!
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Post by: BlueJ1 on October 08, 2004, 09:50:53 AM: When can we start fishing off the pt boats ?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Alpo on October 08, 2004, 10:09:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
Watched it 3 times, I didnt see a periscope anywhere.

I'm betting it's a gamma issue... the glare and shimmer will make subs an absolute bear to spot!! :eek:

;) OTOH... I agree with nopoop, great start but I question the shimmer from altitude (as if we aren't blinded enough already, hehehe)
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Midnight on October 08, 2004, 11:06:18 AM: Edit for thread steal
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Post by: oboe on October 08, 2004, 11:22:34 AM: Very cool looking water shimmer, esp up close. Can we get a wav file of waves lapping against the hull of the PT boat when the motor is off?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Wurger on October 08, 2004, 11:29:07 AM: Awesome effects on the water, only comment is that it does look a bit too blue. Will we have different colored water depending on the map? That would be great too!

Bazi
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Post by: SlapShot on October 08, 2004, 12:39:17 PM: Great job HiTech !!!

Maybe HiTech should have prefaced his post with ...

Check out the cool shimmering water effect that I have made for 2.01.

Don't be concerned with the color of the water or the rapidity of the shimmering ... these are just peripheral effects to what I just really coaded ... shimmering water. The adjustments of peripheral effects will come later.

Look SHIMMERING WATER !!!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: mars01 on October 08, 2004, 01:14:28 PM: WOW nice shot Mits.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: hitech on October 08, 2004, 01:56:23 PM: Shimmer effect turned out to be a vector length conversion problem in the shader.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Flossy on October 08, 2004, 02:10:20 PM: Beautiful! :aok :D
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: SlapShot on October 08, 2004, 02:16:36 PM: Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Shimmer effect turned out to be a vector length conversion problem in the shader.

I don't understand ... are you saying that its been there for some time and it was a vector length conversion problem that prevented us from seeing it and you just fixed it ?

or

you have been working your butt off trying to make this happen and finally found that it was vector length conversion problem and in your excitement decided to share this with us ?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: vorticon on October 08, 2004, 02:23:52 PM: or

was he working on something else and have that accidently happen?

someone wanna post a pic of the effect, im not about to download that much on 56k :aok
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Westy on October 08, 2004, 02:30:11 PM: HiTech: Trouble with coad.
SlapShot: Oh no - what kind of trouble?
Hitech: Shimmer effect turned out to be a vector length conversion problem in the shader.
SlapShot: Pardon?
Hitech: Shimmer effect turned out to be a vector length conversion problem in the shader.
SlapShot: I don't understand what you're saying.
Hitech: [slightly irritatedly and with exaggeratedly clear accent]Shimmer effect turned out to be a vector length conversion problem in the shader.
SlapShot: Well what on earth does that mean?
Hitech: *I* don't know - Mr Balmos just told me to come in here and say that there was trouble with the coad, that's all - I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.

;)

(I think HiTech may mean that the ocean wave "shimmer has been changed from the clip we see. IMO it was too sparkly and birght before. Perhaps it's a bit more subdued?)
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Post by: hitech on October 08, 2004, 04:36:45 PM: Good translation from HT to english Westy.

HiTech
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: glenmorangie on October 08, 2004, 05:46:32 PM: Really nice effects!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: DipStick on October 08, 2004, 11:29:59 PM: Looks pretty cool HT, wtg!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: mauser on October 09, 2004, 01:35:14 AM: I downloaded both codec packs that Oct mentioned, plus upgraded my media player to "Series 9" since I have Win2000. Still can't view it... am I out of luck?

mauser
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Octavius on October 09, 2004, 01:52:34 AM: Have you tried playing it through the Media Player Classic thingy that comes with the codec pack?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: mauser on October 09, 2004, 02:13:56 AM: Yep, I get a message saying "Cannot render the file" with the media player classic.

mauser
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Octavius on October 09, 2004, 02:22:54 AM: I get that sometimes when trying to play RealMedia files (.rm, .ram).

I dunno... video driver? Those codecs should be all you need... It didnt ask you to reboot after installation did it?
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Post by: Saintaw on October 09, 2004, 11:21:59 AM: Looks cool!
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Post by: Nilsen on October 09, 2004, 02:04:08 PM: Holy crapola... didnt see this post until now! Hanging out in the o'club all the time makes ya forget about the other stuff..

Great stuff Coady!
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Krusty on October 09, 2004, 03:09:49 PM: Hitech, I really like what you've done here. The water looks wonderful!

One suggestion I'd make, as was mentioned earlier: It's too blue.

So is the sky. So is the land. AH2 has had a problem with most things being over saturated big time (when compared to AH1). Would it be possible to desaturate things a bit? Just a suggestion.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Paul33 on October 09, 2004, 04:21:47 PM: Somthing I noticed

Near the end of the film, the sun's reflection on the water looks a bit like airbrush on microsoft paint...

It should look a bit more like this...
(http://jonhatcher.com/sceenery/images/water_sunset.jpg)

In the CENTER of the light's reflection on the water the color is completely white and not a bunch of seperated dots...

Other than that... nice job!

:aok
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Nilsen on October 09, 2004, 04:23:06 PM: whats wrong with the plane or whale to the left in the pic?
Title: Cool Stuff
Post by: moto61 on October 10, 2004, 02:25:22 AM: If the file is that big to show us something cool, is this a hint of things to come concerning memory usage and frame rate once its implemented.

I went from 512 meg to a Gig on memory and seems like all that happened is the machine now takes 632 megs of Memory instead of the 470 it took when I ran with 512.

If this cool stuff hits the frame rate I may just find something else to play. You are pricing the game out of reach of some folks not with the monthly subscriptions but with having to buy more, more, more to try and get a decent Frame Rate.

We should not have to keep cutting edge computers or update what we have everytime a change is made to AH2, you should make sure what you design is as effecient as you can get it.

I heard an interesting quote one time "Better is the enemy of Good" maybe that would apply here.
Title: Re: Cool Stuff
Post by: Gixer on October 10, 2004, 04:08:22 AM: Quote
Originally posted by moto61
If the file is that big to show us something cool, is this a hint of things to come concerning memory usage and frame rate once its implemented.

I went from 512 meg to a Gig on memory and seems like all that happened is the machine now takes 632 megs of Memory instead of the 470 it took when I ran with 512.

If this cool stuff hits the frame rate I may just find something else to play. You are pricing the game out of reach of some folks not with the monthly subscriptions but with having to buy more, more, more to try and get a decent Frame Rate.

We should not have to keep cutting edge computers or update what we have everytime a change is made to AH2, you should make sure what you design is as effecient as you can get it.

I heard an interesting quote one time "Better is the enemy of Good" maybe that would apply here.

Have you tried the application FSAutoStart, you can use it to cut down on all the MS crap that runs in the background before you fire up your favourite sim. Usually free's up about 100mb ram for me and like you I have a gig.

I have similar spec comp to yours except running a 9600XT, I don't think you should need to upgrade just to run AH2 and what ever water effects it may come out with. If you do there's something wrong way beyond the hardware.

~~...-Gixer~~
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: moot on October 10, 2004, 04:58:30 AM: Windows 2D multimedia file format and HTC specialized 3D app: does that sound like different and independent things to you, moto61?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Mugzeee on October 10, 2004, 09:36:53 AM: moto.
I dont think the file size of the video is indicitive of the fr tax such an effect will have on our PCs.
The effect is in the form of tiles. The film is a whole streaming file same as when we record a 20 min film in AH2 gun cam format. BIG to d/l ....but in the game is one tile at a time . Something like that any ways. :)
PS i might as well say it.....I dont mean it to be rude or insensitive but I think the "Cool Stuff" needs MUCH work. The shimmer effect is like an old fashioned SNOW effect we used to get on our televisions when i was a kid.
The waves i think we are seeing....are like fog on the water.
But kudos for HTC trying to improve the water.
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 10, 2004, 11:45:41 AM: How
or
what
effect
will
this
have
on
Framerates??
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Mitsu on October 10, 2004, 03:19:48 PM: Damn, I thought today's news is 2.01 release...
btw how heavy is this new water?
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Kaz on October 10, 2004, 04:34:05 PM: I'm guessing 2.01 release within the next 2 weeks :D
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: Tilt on October 10, 2004, 05:25:31 PM: "connecting".......... for ever connecting
Title: Cool Stuff for 2.01
Post by: SlapShot on October 10, 2004, 07:19:01 PM: If the file is that big to show us something cool, is this a hint of things to come concerning memory usage and frame rate once its implemented.

LOL ... its all about converting a .ahf file to a .avi file. The conversion is HUGE ... the file size is not an indicator of what the memory usage would be to display this new effect.