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Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Slash27 on October 08, 2004, 07:08:52 PM

Early War PTO


U.S.A.A.F.

P-40E
A-20(Boston)
C-47

U.S.N.

CV Based

F4F-4
SBD




I.J.N.

Land and CV based

A6M2
B5N
D3A
C-47

GVs

All for both sides but the Panzer,Tiger, and Ostwind.

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: bustr on October 08, 2004, 07:37:08 PM

So you puttin the same number of rubberbands in the A6m as the P40. Oh and don't put too many, I get tired winding the prop more than about 100 times.....:D

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Crumpp on October 08, 2004, 08:12:00 PM

Please NOT another week of the PACWAR!

Crumpp

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Squire on October 08, 2004, 08:29:36 PM

All Your Setups Are Belong To Us!

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Slash27 on October 08, 2004, 08:35:24 PM

Please NOT another week of the PACWAR!

sorry Crummp. Ill put in a good word for a 190 next go around:aok



All Your Setups Are Belong To Us!

Is that good or bad?

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Crumpp on October 08, 2004, 08:40:27 PM

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sorry Crummp. Ill put in a good word for a 190 next go around

Thanks.  

I hate flying angle fighters. IMO going round and round is boring.

Crumpp

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: DoKGonZo on October 08, 2004, 09:04:28 PM

Cool ... I'll let the folks signing up for Rangoon know ... oops, they're a lot of MA types ... maybe not. :D

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Arlo on October 08, 2004, 09:37:33 PM

p.s. - enabling the a6m5 wouldn't be a disaster (hint). ;)

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Squire on October 08, 2004, 09:42:05 PM

PAC is always good (say it with me people).

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Slash27 on October 08, 2004, 09:45:00 PM

enabling the a6m5 wouldn't be a disaster (hint).

I hear ya.

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: tzr on October 08, 2004, 10:06:16 PM

A6m5 vs FM2  OHHHHHHHHH  FunFunFun!!!!:D :D

Hurri1 vs A6m2  YEA BABY:aok

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Eagler on October 08, 2004, 10:22:59 PM

another week of sticking needles in my eye - thanks

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: o0Stream140o on October 09, 2004, 12:02:25 AM

Think we will ever see an MTO soon?

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Rafe35 on October 09, 2004, 12:12:01 AM

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Originally posted by o0Stream140o
Think we will ever see an MTO soon?

Hopefully soon, Stream, I am researching about Air War in MTO until after Rabual Setup Suggestion is completed.

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: VWE on October 09, 2004, 08:23:45 AM

PTO is cool beans! I love these setups... its another week the allies must forgo their beloved spit. :D

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Crumpp on October 09, 2004, 10:30:45 AM

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Hopefully soon, Stream, I am researching about Air War in MTO until after Rabual Setup Suggestion is completed.

Let me know if you need a hand.  Got quite a few Luftwaffe documents detailing OOB including the MTO.

Got some PRO documents for the Allies too.

Feb '43 is a great time for the CT.  Lots of fighter combat and a good variety of planes.

The retreat from Tunisia.

For any skinners out there I also have a buch of color plates for both Axis and Allied in the Theater.

Crumpp

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Rafe35 on October 09, 2004, 12:24:22 PM

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Originally posted by Crumpp
Let me know if you need a hand.  Got quite a few Luftwaffe documents detailing OOB including the MTO.

Got some PRO documents for the Allies too.

Feb '43 is a great time for the CT.  Lots of fighter combat and a good variety of planes.

The retreat from Tunisia.

For any skinners out there I also have a buch of color plates for both Axis and Allied in the Theater.

Crumpp

Ah thanks Crumpp.  

I have found a few allies aircraft that saw action in Early 1943 in Southern Italy and Mediterranean sea which there is Royal Navy carriers should be there in 1943 with Seafire, Sea Hurricane, Corsair Mk II, and Ganner Mk I(Hellcat).  

Also, I have to agree with you that Feb '43 is a great time for the CT and hopefully someone will make the map, but dunno who going make the map.

Sent me email at austinrulz20@hotmail.com for Luftwaffe and Allies documents you have, i might able research this week or so.

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Slash27 on October 09, 2004, 02:31:14 PM

Think we will ever see an MTO soon?

We can run the plane set anytime. But it will be in the Slot or France. And that would be kinda lame.

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Crumpp on October 09, 2004, 04:53:54 PM

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We can run the plane set anytime. But it will be in the Slot or France. And that would be kinda lame.

Is it really that hard to do maps in AH2?  What map editor do you need?

Crumpp

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: TheBug on October 09, 2004, 07:51:25 PM

Been trying to learn the map editor myself along with a squaddie, Jededi.  I'm working on a MTO map and Jed is working on an East Indies map.

I am a newbie, but it only takes about an hour to get a base map like the ones pictured below.  I am at the point where I am placing the fields and learning as I go so I'm not sure how difficult it is from this point, but so far it just seems to take time.

As I said I am just learning, but I'd gladly be willing to share what I know and help somebody get going with their map, figured the more heads working on it the more there will be to learn.

(http://home.rochester.rr.com/faa880sqdn/Combat-theater/map.jpg)
(http://home.rochester.rr.com/faa880sqdn/Combat-theater/map2.jpg)

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Crumpp on October 09, 2004, 09:59:26 PM

Where do you get the map editor?

Hey Bug I have a map of ALL the Axis and Allied airfields for the MTO.  Italy, Southern France, North Africa, and Greece.  The whole theater if you want me to shoot you a copy.  That way you can put the bases were they actually were located.

Crumpp

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: TheBug on October 09, 2004, 10:38:56 PM

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125262

That is the editor for AH2, but you are going to want to start your map in the AH1 editor, since the AH2 one is kinda flaky.  You can find that here.

http://www.ah-terrains.com/

Have to log in and get it under

             File System/AH 1 Original Programs


I'll take a copy of that map, if you could mail it to thebug@rochester.rr.com I'd appreciate it! Thanks

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Rafe35 on October 10, 2004, 12:03:54 AM

TheBug, That map is great! :D

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: o0Stream140o on October 10, 2004, 12:26:02 AM

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Originally posted by TheBug

(http://home.rochester.rr.com/faa880sqdn/Combat-theater/map.jpg)
 
Your my new best friend Bug...  Finally some set ups out of italy... can run some historic ones..  I also have some info on the MTO at least the 325th was from  43" Tunisa to 45" Lesina Italy..

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/269_1087181432_checkbanner_mod_01.jpg)
Stream

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Karnak on October 10, 2004, 01:12:24 AM

Please take out the Boston Mk III.  It is silly to have a bomber that is simply faster at all altitudes than the oposing side's fighter.

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: simshell on October 10, 2004, 04:07:29 PM

i dont understand why do you sub the A20 with the Boston when we have the A20

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Rafe35 on October 10, 2004, 06:08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Karnak
Please take out the Boston Mk III.  It is silly to have a bomber that is simply faster at all altitudes than the oposing side's fighter.

I would probably say that Douglas Boston Mk III(British RAF) have seen action in Feb '43 over Tunisia and it will be added on the setup, if okay with CT Staff.

Planes Setup for Tunisia would be like this(crumpp and me idea):

The Allies - United States/Great Britain[/u]

Curtiss P-40E Warhawk
Douglas A-20G Havoc
Douglas Boston Mk III
Hawker Hurricane Mk IIC
Lockheed P-38L Lighting
Supermarine Spitfire Mk XI

The Axis - Germany[/u]

Focke Wulf FW 190A-5
Junkers Ju87D-3
Junkers Ju 88A-4
Messerschmitt Bf 109Gs (G-2 and G-6)
Messerschmitt Bf 110C-4b

This setup is pretty well balance.

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: o0Stream140o on October 10, 2004, 06:21:55 PM

Yeah as long as you add the P-40F too

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Crumpp on October 10, 2004, 06:40:19 PM

Looks Great Rafe.

Crumpp

Title: This weeks set up.
Post by: Karnak on October 10, 2004, 07:01:30 PM

Um,  You guys need to start your own thread.  I was refering to this week's CT setup.

The A6M2 is completely incapable of shooting down a Boston Mk III that is unwilling to let itself be shot down.


Seriously, the Boston Mk III is a horrible bomber to be used as an early war Allied bomber.  It is faster than the A6M2, Bf109E-4 and Bf110C-4b.  If the Allies had had such a bomber there would have been no need to switch to night bombing, add massive quantities of guns and no market for the wooden Mosquito.  The Boston Mk III is absurd as it now stands.


Of course all we end up with is the Allied whining taking out the Ki-67 (which is itself completely inappropriate for the early war) but the Boston is just fine.

Why?  Because there are far, far more dedicated Allied fliers than Axis and consequently their whines are vastly louder.  That's my guess at least.