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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JB73 on October 09, 2004, 11:45:31 PM
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just stratred trying to figure this all out...
yeah i missed that early "intardnet" stuff.
anyone use this alot? what is better? Forte agent or Xnews?
how in the heck do you find stuff LOL
i know, i hear about people DL illegal stuff.. i just want to understand this whole thing. im not looking for what it is good for besides that. there must be some reason it is clouded in seceracy, noone discusses it, but there are millions of "posts" or whatever you call them.
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It's not clouded in secrecy... it's "old school".
If you want to use your browser to use it, try this:
http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q=
or
Most ISP still offer access (I think) to newsgroups... create the account in "Outlook Express" and access it there.
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Holy outdated batman!
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Other than bigweek, I haven't used usenet in years. At one time it was a big portion of the net, but with all the web based boards, I rarely use it anymore.
I think outlook express works fine for usenet groups, but at one time Forte Agent and Forte Free agent was THE news reader.
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Coming Soon....Undernet!
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http://www.newsbin.com
best client.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Other than bigweek, I haven't used usenet in years. At one time it was a big portion of the net, but with all the web based boards, I rarely use it anymore.
I think outlook express works fine for usenet groups, but at one time Forte Agent and Forte Free agent was THE news reader.
Yeah... I remember using those.
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Don't use usenet. Usenet doesn't exist. Forget you ever heard the word. Usenet who?
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What do you mean its clouded in secrecy? Millions of people use the usenet newsgroups every day. There's thousands and thousands of active newsgroups where people discuss all possible topics, aviation included. And it is international, owned by nobody, available everywhere.
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Can anyone say 'Gopher'?
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Originally posted by SunKing
http://www.newsbin.com
best client.
Hehe -I know this guy- He earned his black belt from me
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clouded in secrecy? the thing is the biggest repository of porn and porn related topics known to man.
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Originally posted by Grendel
What do you mean its clouded in secrecy? Millions of people use the usenet newsgroups every day. There's thousands and thousands of active newsgroups where people discuss all possible topics, aviation included. And it is international, owned by nobody, available everywhere.
i have googled tutorials 100 times, and noone can explain how to use it
all i gte is gibberish charecters and letters, and messages i have to "join" or some junk.
that and PAL2 whatever the F that is.
even in the "clients" i have DL's they say:
we are only going to explain the new features, we assume you know all the basics, and what the terms mean.
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Originally posted by JB73
i have googled tutorials 100 times, and noone can explain how to use it
all i gte is gibberish charecters and letters, and messages i have to "join" or some junk.
that and PAL2 whatever the F that is.
even in the "clients" i have DL's they say:
we are only going to explain the new features, we assume you know all the basics, and what the terms mean.
JB, just go to Forte's website and get Agent for free. When yoiu install it, it will ask you for the name of your news server and mail server. You can find these on the info page of yur ISP, search for 'news server' if it isn't obvious.
After you put in those two server names Agent will ask you if you want to go online to get the list of available news groups. You may have to put in a user name and password, these are typicaly the same as your login for your ISP.
Agent, or a dedicated newsgroup reader, is the best way to use the usenet since Outlook will not decode Yenc without a patch/program added on.
You should have 30k+ newsgroups to choose from. Using Agent's search function, just input a topic of interest like 'binaries aircraft' and you can find what groups are available through your ISP. Then just hit the subscribe button and that group will show up in your 'subscribed groups' list.
I could tell you which groups have the best porn but our tastes are probably very different, I'm not into whips and chains anymore.
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LOL that part i got, have the news groups up, all that.
most of the messages though are this:
M;7#/WS>:2@K4M?:L`$:1CWY1L<\EAMKA-J;/)XSJ8A-YH5*&'<8I43)8;+#M
MMQ:S2Q(MMO._Z7*3ZMAA%[\"J"$1(OWI&=J[1'*C?.-]R]F;1&94A%M8\!^GU]S?8/#>#@M:F^H%<]
M<:)FT3#_W\6M@")6@'J#PJ7UJ*ZBPX>Q_Z:WM7D6&1>SL"8Y&T28+U+*>!B0W9.G8J,_NX1>
M\B45>K%E+LM'W"7N:[`5A@R2"L!'Y3QIMC*(;EG1\+C*]CEQ%.+>_\L]2?F:
M\#E;;%U1^:4@K+`D/MY+!,5Y4#\R-%I1KYU83X--L!&A.>5T;F`N"FM?*EVF
M>M=6/H'!/@<7$/`(MV_LW&6%I(W,$*FD`S^LR1$_?/8Q_?R""-=92JZY(7B.
thats just a snippet
WTF is that?
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I feel old.
I have noticed a sharp decline in returns of searches on the UseNet during the past few years but I didn't think it'd be considered as passe as this thread indicates it is.
Some people don't know how to use it or barely heard of it ?
Used to be a concise uniform format to search for up to date information on whatever, drivers, vidcards, politics ...
Now I'm forced to search the Web instead which is more painful since the returns can come in any format.
A pity I think since all the myriads of web foras don't have nearly the longevity of UseNet.
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Originally posted by JB73
LOL that part i got, have the news groups up, all that.
most of the messages though are this:
M;7#/WS>:2@K4M?:L`$:1CWY1L<\EAMKA-J;/)XSJ8A-YH5*&'<8I43)8;+#M
MMQ:S2Q(MMO._Z7*3ZMAA%[\"J"$1(OWI&=J[1'*C?.-]R]F;1&94A%M8\!^GU]S?8/#>#@M:F^H%<]
M<:)FT3#_W\6M@")6@'J#PJ7UJ*ZBPX>Q_Z:WM7D6&1>SL"8Y&T28+U+*>!B0W9.G8J,_NX1>
M\B45>K%E+LM'W"7N:[`5A@R2"L!'Y3QIMC*(;EG1\+C*]CEQ%.+>_\L]2?F:
M\#E;;%U1^:4@K+`D/MY+!,5Y4#\R-%I1KYU83X--L!&A.>5T;F`N"FM?*EVF
M>M=6/H'!/@<7$/`(MV_LW&6%I(W,$*FD`S^LR1$_?/8Q_?R""-=92JZY(7B.
thats just a snippet
WTF is that?
Looks like part of an image, 73. 73, do the following things:
1. Call your ISP and ask him for name of his news source. It will be something like news.whatever.com.
2. Download a browser with a decent news interface. Mozilla works fine (firefox does not have a news browser.)
3. Point your news browser at the source supplied to you by your ISP.
4. Subscribe to alt.binary.nude.redhead or rec.aviation.whatever.
You're in business.
curly
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curly im already browsing around with Forte, and Xnews.
in forte this is the result of a "video" of a plane crash supposedly...
there are 5 other news headers with the same name, and they all give the same type of thing.
from what i understand, this is part of a file, and i have to piece the parts together... but nowhere does it say how.
oh well, this usenet thing isnt that interesting anyway, i'll just go back to plain old web browsing.
ty for the answers all.
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The gibberish is mime encoding. You need a news reader that converts the mime encoding to a file. Forte Free Agent will do it with base64 encoding, but won't do it with the other type (and I forget its name its been so long) - the pay Agent does. Some files are split and even .rar files. You'll need a program to join them and perhaps unrar them. Now you know why more people use the web than usenet :D
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Originally posted by JB73
curly im already browsing around with Forte, and Xnews.
in forte this is the result of a "video" of a plane crash supposedly...
there are 5 other news headers with the same name, and they all give the same type of thing.
from what i understand, this is part of a file, and i have to piece the parts together... but nowhere does it say how.
Oh, I see what you're getting at.
The news carriers themselves split files that exceed their maxium article size. The result is an article subject that looks like this.
planecrash.avi (0/3)
planecrash.avi (1/3)
planecrash.avi (2/3)
planecrash.avi (3/3)
In Xnews there is a 'T' button that toggles threaded view. Threaded view will organize multi-part files, and replies to post in a directory tree style display. The above example now displays as.
planecrash.avi (~/3)
If you are in threaded view, just click on the queue colum for the article you want. It should add all the individual parts to the queue. Click on the Decode button and it will prompt where you want to save the file, and then it will download the parts decode and combind them for you.
Most news readers dont allow you to view multi-part files directly. The newsreader will combine and save the file for you where you can view it externally.
If the article looks like this:
planecrash.avi.001
planecrash.avi.002
planecrash.avi.003
Then the poster themself split the file before posting. In that case you would queue the parts and then use a program like mastersplitter to recombine the parts.
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You'd think you pron masters would have this done by now.
Here's a group you guys don't want to miss.
A.B.pictures.aviation
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Of course once you get all the planecrash.avi files pieced together you will be pleased to find out it's some wacked out eurofreakpornspam vid for a website. Oh, enjoy the virus as well.
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If you have IE you have Outlook Express. Configure it per instructions as listed from others. You can then highlight all the component posts, right click and choose combine and decode.
BTW, here's a newsgroup I've followed for years:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim
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Originally posted by rpm
Of course once you get all the planecrash.avi files pieced together you will be pleased to find out it's some wacked out eurofreakpornspam vid for a website. Oh, enjoy the virus as well.
lol, actually off topic material is usually flamed quickly in most places. Be weary of obvious potential virus carriers ie. .pif .exe .bat and all is good.
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I use usenet alot. The newreader that I use is giganews. Its shareware that works even if you don't buy it you just get an annoying pop up every now and then.
The server I use is a subscribtion service. http://www.newscene.com 10.99/mo (IIRC) for 10Gig of transfer. It holds most of the threads for 10 days and most of the files are complete....(not allways so w/ free servers)
most ISPs offer free connection to newserver but they arent allways reliable.
If you D/L alot make sure you have WinRAR
and quickpar2
PS stay away from alot of the porn. there's alot of it on there that is Illegal (not to mention SICK) and it automatically downloads the crap on your computer to view it.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
PS stay away from alot of the porn. there's alot of it on there that is Illegal (not to mention SICK) and it automatically downloads the crap on your computer to view it.
your likely to end up with that no matter what your doing, unless you actually subscribe one of the major ones
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Forte Free Agent works well, but lacks the spell checker that Agent has. But, what the heck, it's free. Takes some set-up tho. You will need to know the server address if your provider offers usenet access.
Netscape has a decent news reader too.
For usenet access, I like AT&T Worldnet DSL or even dialup. For non-moderated forums, your post appears so fast that you can hold real-time discussions. Worldnet's usenet server address is: netnews.worldnet.att.net
My regards,
Widewing
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H2H Virgincon like's his porn.
J/K:)
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
PS stay away from alot of the porn. there's alot of it on there that is Illegal (not to mention SICK) and it automatically downloads the crap on your computer to view it.
You can turn auto-downloads off in newsbin.
Imagine a world... where infinite amounts of pr0n are precategorised for you... thats Usenet.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
You can turn auto-downloads off in newsbin.
Imagine a world... where infinite amounts of pr0n are precategorised for you... thats Usenet.
I used Newsbin for the longest time but the last version I had kept locking up my puter or closing on me.
Pretty chitty when you have 2Gigs scheduled to download.