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Title: Illegal war
Post by: Ripsnort on October 12, 2004, 10:16:58 AM
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Title: Illegal war
Post by: Nash on October 12, 2004, 10:33:39 AM
Someone alluded to a story that's gonna break this week involving a group of Texans and some pretty thick involvement in this scandle. No idea if it's gonna happen, but it's going to be interesting if it does...

Not so much because I find the story itself interesting, but more so from the reactions of those who have been heaping tons of blame on France et al.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Ripsnort on October 12, 2004, 10:36:20 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
Someone alluded to a story that's gonna break this week involving a group of Texans and some pretty thick involvement in this scandle. No idea if it's gonna happen, but it's going to be interesting if it does...

Not so much because I find the story itself interesting, but more so from the reactions of those who have been heaping tons of blame on France et al.


Will it be on 60 minutes?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Toad on October 12, 2004, 10:39:57 AM
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Originally posted by Nash

Not so much because I find the story itself interesting, but more so from the reactions of those who have been heaping tons of blame on France et al.


What'll be even MORE interesting is that the reaction will be that any US citizens involved should be punished swiftly and severely, moreso perhaps than even the French et al.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Ripsnort on October 12, 2004, 10:52:48 AM
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Originally posted by Toad
What'll be even MORE interesting is that the reaction will be that any US citizens involved should be punished swiftly and severely, moreso perhaps than even the French et al.
:lol
Title: Illegal war
Post by: AKIron on October 12, 2004, 11:02:03 AM
The UN has been useful in the past. To us, is it still worth the money we throw at it? While it does give voice to many countries that would otherwise go unheard I think it's time we cut off this world welfare program and establish relationships with all countries individually. Get US out of the UN.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Staga on October 12, 2004, 11:13:48 AM
Another funny comic!

(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/torturer.jpg)

 :aok   :rofl
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Martlet on October 12, 2004, 11:20:09 AM
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Originally posted by Staga
Another funny comic!

(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/torturer.jpg)

 :aok   :rofl


I'd like to see you get banned for that display of distasteful hatred.

But I'm just a fascist.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: AKIron on October 12, 2004, 11:54:59 AM
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Originally posted by Staga
Another funny comic!

(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/torturer.jpg)

 :aok   :rofl


I'd really like to know what you find funny in that?
Title: Illegal war
Post by: moot on October 12, 2004, 11:59:55 AM
those iraquis with pwned PSed on their faces were maybe not as bad, but in the same vein, and no one complained to say the least.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: AKIron on October 12, 2004, 12:08:50 PM
Political satire has to have some element of truth or at least supposed truth in order to be even a bit funny. The first comic does. Staga's might to some if there were claims of private contractors raping Iraqis at the direction or approval of the US military, there aren't.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Curval on October 12, 2004, 12:09:59 PM
Marlet & Iron...you guys serious?

I mean, Rip posts a funny, yet very offensive, comic (which you no doubt agree with) and Staga sends one back your way and you get upset.

LOL...you guys have some seriously thin skin.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: AKIron on October 12, 2004, 12:13:29 PM
I'm not upset. I just find his cartoon to be unfunny and would like to understand why he does.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Martlet on October 12, 2004, 12:14:55 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Marlet & Iron...you guys serious?

I mean, Rip posts a funny, yet very offensive, comic (which you no doubt agree with) and Staga sends one back your way and you get upset.

LOL...you guys have some seriously thin skin.


Rip's comic was offensive?  It it's implying those those nation's and the UN were profitting off the oil for food program while condemning the war in Iraq.

Staga's states the US hands out medals to people who rape and torture the most prisoners.

If you don't see the difference, you have a seriously hosed value system.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Ripsnort on October 12, 2004, 12:28:19 PM
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Originally posted by Staga
Another funny comic!

 :aok   :rofl

Bulletin Board Security Advisory System  is now BLUE

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Title: Illegal war
Post by: Ripsnort on October 12, 2004, 12:30:43 PM
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Title: Illegal war
Post by: moot on October 12, 2004, 12:40:18 PM
ok, nevermind.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: straffo on October 12, 2004, 12:50:57 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Rip's comic was offensive?  It it's implying those those nation's and the UN were profitting off the oil for food program while condemning the war in Iraq.
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nation ?
mon cul.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Martlet on October 12, 2004, 12:55:49 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
nation ?
mon cul.


You have my entire statement and all you can do is point out I added a '?
Title: Illegal war
Post by: straffo on October 12, 2004, 01:06:15 PM
So far you have one document conservatives sources  (read Fox)  pretend to be genuine but can be as fake as the 2003 Roland missiles...
And this document name some individual and in no case mention the French republic (also know as the Nation in France)

So I reiterate :

nation ?
mon cul.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Fishu on October 12, 2004, 01:18:12 PM
Coalition of the propaganda by USA.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Ripsnort on October 12, 2004, 01:27:59 PM
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Originally posted by Fishu
Coalition of the propaganda by USA.

Hardly....

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Secretary General Kofi Annan has pledged a complete investigation and promised that those found guilty of corruption or improper behavior will be punished. To that end, Annan recruited former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker to lead a U.N.-sponsored probe.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Yeager on October 12, 2004, 01:36:54 PM
hey be nice to the french!  they saved us from the brits, the mexicans, the brits, the confederacy, the brits, the germans, the french.....oh wait :rofl
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Martlet on October 12, 2004, 01:37:23 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
So far you have one document conservatives sources  (read Fox)  pretend to be genuine but can be as fake as the 2003 Roland missiles...
And this document name some individual and in no case mention the French republic (also know as the Nation in France)

So I reiterate :

nation ?
mon cul.


Mommy, please say it isn't so (http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/10/10/do1001.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2004/10/10/ixopinion.html)
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Momus-- on October 12, 2004, 02:17:09 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Rip's comic was offensive?  It it's implying those those nation's and the UN were profitting off the oil for food program while condemning the war in Iraq.



Rusia and France lost a lot more than a little oil for food slush once the US invaded. Conversely, the US picked up all the concessions that France and Russia lost. You have all you need to know regarding the motivations of all concerned right there. Rip's retarded comic is just FUD, much as the whole WMD/terrorism issue was.

Depressing to see that critical thinking is still on vacation in your neighbourhood.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: straffo on October 12, 2004, 02:19:03 PM
Don't make me laught Martlet  :)

Next you will post a scan of the Spectator ?
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Saurdaukar on October 12, 2004, 02:21:22 PM
Whats in the water (ice) in Finland?
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Curval on October 12, 2004, 02:28:35 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
If you don't see the difference, you have a seriously hosed value system.


lol...you are the most passive aggressive person on these boards man.

...and now you have hurt my feelings.

Boo hoo.

:(

lol
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Martlet on October 12, 2004, 02:29:30 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
Don't make me laught Martlet  :)

Next you will post a scan of the Spectator ?


Heh, stinks when you get caught with your pants down, doesn't it?

At least now we know why France wouldn't support the war.  They'd lose their gravy train.

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Originally posted by Curval
lol...you are the most passive aggressive person on these boards man.

...and now you have hurt my feelings.

Boo hoo.

:(

lol


wahhhh
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Gixer on October 12, 2004, 03:59:15 PM
Interesting how people only find comics like this funny that match their own political views.



...-Gixer
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Martlet on October 12, 2004, 04:05:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gixer
Interesting how people only find comics like this funny that match their own political views.



...-Gixer


What Staga posted isn't a comic.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Gixer on October 12, 2004, 04:11:24 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
What Staga posted isn't a comic.



I agree, it's neither a comic or funny. I would say it's bad taste as well but then most comics aren't very PC. I was meaning Rip's original comic and others from varying political views on this or any other subject.



...-Gixer
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Martlet on October 12, 2004, 04:14:20 PM
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Originally posted by Gixer
I agree, it's neither a comic or funny. I would say it's bad taste as well but then most comics aren't very PC. I was meaning Rip's original comic and others from varying political views on this or any other subject.



...-Gixer


Ahhhh.  Sorry.  I misunderstood.

I don't mind comics that aren't PC.  That's usually what makes them funny.   Even comments no in line with my political views can be funny.  Even if I don't find them funny, I usually don't find them insulting.

Staga's comment just crossed the line with me.  Obviously it didn't with others.  If he finds that funny, I believe it speaks volumes about his character.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Staga on October 12, 2004, 04:47:30 PM
I wonder if I should take Martlet out from my ignore list?

Naah, better keep him in there; this board looks much more sane now  :)
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Ripsnort on October 12, 2004, 04:49:12 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Ahhhh.  Sorry.  I misunderstood.

I don't mind comics that aren't PC.  That's usually what makes them funny.   Even comments no in line with my political views can be funny.  Even if I don't find them funny, I usually don't find them insulting.

Staga's comment just crossed the line with me.  Obviously it didn't with others.  If he finds that funny, I believe it speaks volumes about his character.


Staga, can you hear me now? :D
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Staga on October 12, 2004, 04:49:44 PM
Heh gotta find one poster promoting new holiday center in Guantanamo...  :rofl
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Martlet on October 12, 2004, 04:50:50 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Staga, can you hear me now? :D


I don't know what's funnier, people that talk about putting people on ignore, or people that don't really have you on ignore and pretend you do.

I guess being right on about his character hit a sore spot with him.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Staga on October 12, 2004, 05:09:31 PM
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/welcomexray.jpg)




And for those who are defending of keeping prisoners "detained" for over two years without a chance to be heard in court...
 (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/truecolors.jpg)
Title: Illegal war
Post by: FUNKED1 on October 12, 2004, 05:12:51 PM
ameristalkerblitzkrieg
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Staga on October 12, 2004, 05:15:00 PM
AntiAmerican riceburner driver.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: AKIron on October 12, 2004, 06:07:28 PM
Staga is attempting a diversionary tactic. The Oil for Food scandal will likely never be fully exposed nor is it likely any will be punished. They can blame themselves for killing the UN, maybe we should thank them.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 12, 2004, 07:40:29 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
So far you have one document conservatives sources  (read Fox)  pretend to be genuine but can be as fake as the 2003 Roland missiles...
And this document name some individual and in no case mention the French republic (also know as the Nation in France)

So I reiterate :

nation ?
mon cul.


heh sounds similar to Deniro doing Al Capone "You  got nothing" routine

seems conservative thought is spreading leftwards as its not just Fox anymore.
Spreading all the way to the CIA as well

MSNBC (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6194795/)

The report issued Wednesday by Charles Duelfer, head of the Iraq Survey Group, said Saddam Hussein issued secret vouchers for the purchase of oil, which could then be resold at a profit, to an array of officials and political figures from various countries, mainly Russia,France  and China

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.wmd.un.vouchers.ap/index.html)

The secret voucher program was dominated by Russian,French , and Chinese recipients, in that order, with Saddam spreading the wealth widely to prominent business men, politicians, foreign government ministries and political parties, the report said.

The report names  former French Interior Minister Charles Pasqua, Indonesian president Megawati Sukarnoputri, and the Russian radical political figure Vladimir Zhirinovsky as voucher recipients, for example, and other foreign governments range from Yemen to Namibia.

Like I said the last time.
I suppose Iraq kept managing to rebuild its radar and anti aircraft sites to modern standards by way of magic Genie
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Saurdaukar on October 12, 2004, 10:52:54 PM
Staga has gone off the deep end!!!  :lol

0/\/\Ga|\/|3r1NaZ15!!!!
Title: Illegal war
Post by: straffo on October 13, 2004, 02:05:29 AM
DREDIOCK I question the veracity of the document.

But if I admit it's veracity I still don't see how having individuals named in the document involve the whole French nation.

Do you see my point ?

btw Pasqua was and is an a**hole.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Lazerus on October 13, 2004, 03:45:50 AM
I'm sorry to my french friends, but the facts that are coming out look very bad. American companies were involved. There is no denying that either. But the governments that supporeted Iraq are the same governments that were profiting from the 'oil-for-food'program.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Fishu on October 13, 2004, 04:41:00 AM
I guess it looks very good to sell WMD to Iraq, then couple decades later make a big number of the evil dictators WMD arsenal, ruin up the international relationships, start a war with a great hype and end up with no WMD.
...and as a bonus increase the anti-american mentality in the middle east, while fightning the war on terror :D
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Lazerus on October 13, 2004, 04:52:38 AM
Fishu, you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaay off base. I'm sorry you don't have the intelect to see the difference. Some are just different than others.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: loser on October 13, 2004, 04:54:40 AM
What sort of sh*tnami thread is this?

Sorry for circumventing the filter Skuzzy, but a match on a bonfire in this case.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Staga on October 13, 2004, 04:59:15 AM
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Originally posted by loser
What sort of sh*tnami thread is this?


You reap what you sew :aok
Title: Illegal war
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 13, 2004, 07:27:44 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
I still don't see how having individuals named in the document involve the whole French nation.

Do you see my point ?

btw Pasqua was and is an a**hole.


Not the whole nation. Just the government.And some private individuals.


"CNN

The secret voucher program was dominated by Russian,French , and Chinese recipients, in that order, with Saddam spreading the wealth widely to prominent business men, politicians, foreign government ministries and political parties, the report said. "

not to worry. I wouldnt be surprised if there were some people over here in our government who in the end were somehow taking bribes also.
also wouldnt surprise me if they some of them were the same ones who were against the war.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: straffo on October 13, 2004, 09:01:04 AM
DREDIOCK the names I've seen on the list were not in our governement  ,Pasqua was not part of any governement since 1995 (or 1996 I don't really remeber)
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Saintaw on October 13, 2004, 09:34:34 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
nation ?
mon cul.  


:lol
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Eagler on October 13, 2004, 09:42:41 AM
"And a lot of countries whose merchants violated the U.N. embargo are angry with the United States for proceeding to war against a country whose threat against others could only have been realized by successful defiance of the U.N. embargo."

 Buckley (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=128&e=1&u=/ucwb/20041009/cm_ucwb/dissimulationreigns)
Title: Illegal war
Post by: AKIron on October 13, 2004, 09:46:46 AM
We are surrounded by enemies intent on our destruction in a real quagmire with no hope of ever accomplishing anything. It's time we pulled out of it, the UN that is.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: Fishu on October 13, 2004, 09:54:27 AM
Once again great speak from the one whos country has many times vetoed in UN for it's own good only.
No wonder UN isn't working properly, when a member state is stopping it all the time.

Quit *****in' about UN, ye ain't all that purty saints yerself.
Title: Illegal war
Post by: AKIron on October 13, 2004, 09:59:09 AM
The UN can go on it's merry impotent way just fine without us. Time to stop lugging such heavy baggage filled with nothing but dead weight.


Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's better to stay in the UN if for no other reason than to ensure it remains impotent. Damn costly though.