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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: demaw1 on October 12, 2004, 10:35:57 PM
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Near the end of President Washingtons last term,he had a vision of America in the latter days.
Paraphasing.....And I saw great cities with many tall buildings from east to west. I saw people flying in machines from place to place. I saw great navies on both shores and wealth beyond imagination. And I saw trouble.
I saw the nations of the world come against America,from the north,south,east and west. And I saw these great cities were totally destoryed by a great fire beyond anything I have seen.
I saw a hoard of red from all corners of the world decend on America as if they were locust. And I saw America destoryed from the west coast to the great Mississippi river.I saw great loss of life and destruction .
And I cried.
And the sky was dark as if full of storm clouds, I saw the final battle begin. And behold I saw a bright light in the sky and an angel drew his sword and pointed it at the hourds and said..." This far and no farther" and the tide of battle turned,and America was saved but was never the same again.
Well how many nations are against us now?
This is how I remember his vision and I am sure I have taken license with it, so please if anyone can find the actual account please let us all know .
Demaw.
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read that many times over that past 20 years. The original story was a lot longer and more interesting.
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"This afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something seemed to disturb me. Looking up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful female. So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of her presence. A second, a third and even a fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of her eyes.
"By this time I felt strange sensations spreading through me. I would have risen but the riveted gaze of the being before me rendered volition impossible. I assayed once more to aaddress her, butmy tongue had become useless, as though it had become paralyzed.
"A new influence, mysterious, potent, irresistible, took possession of me. All I could do was to gaze steadily, vacantly at my unknown visitor, Gradually the surrounding atmosphere seemed as if it had become filled with sensations, and luminous. Everything about me seemed to rarify, the mysterious visitor herself becoming more airy and yet more distinct to my sight than before. I now began to feel as one dying, or rather to experience the sensations which I have sometimes imagined accompany dissolution. I did not think, I did not reason, I did not move; all were alike impossible. I was only conscious of gazing fixedly, vacantly at my companion.
"Presently I heard a voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn,' while at the same time my visitor extended her arm eastwardly. I now beheld a heavy white vapor at some distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I looked upon a strange scene. Before me lay spread out in one vast plain all the countries of the world; Europe, Asia, Africa and America. I saw rolling and tossing between Europe and America the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America lay the Pacific.
" `Son of the Republic' said the same mysterious voice as before, `look and learn,' At that moment I beheld a dark, shadowy being, like an angel, standing, or rather floating in mid-air, between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand, while with his left hand he cast some on Europe. Immediately a cloud raised from these countries, and joined in mid-ocean. For a while it remained stationary, and then moved slowly westward, until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.
"A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean, and sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back to the ocean, in whose heaving billows it sank from view. A third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn,' I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted with them.
Again, I heard the mysterious voice say, `Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn.' At this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from Africa I saw an ill-omened spectre approach our land. It flitted slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking I a saw bright angel, on whose brow rested a crown of light, on which was traced the word `Union,' bearing the American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and said, `Remember ye are brethren.' Instantly, the inhabitants, casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.
"And again I heard the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn.' At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from theocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe,
Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene: from each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. Throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America. Our country was enveloped in this volume of cloud, and I saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up. As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I heard again the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn.' When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.
"Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word Union, and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle.
"Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict, I heard the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn.' As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious!
"Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with o loud voice" `While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last.' And taking from his brow the crown on which blazoned the word `UNION,' he placed it upon the Standard while the people, kneeling down, said, `Amen.'
"The scene instantly began to fad and dissolve, and I at last saw nothing but the rising, curling vapor I at first beheld. This also disappearing, I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, said, `Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the Union. With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown to me the birth, progress and destiny of the United States."
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Damn... America was so much more exciting before they came up with the concept of controlled substances. :cool:
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Sand, that is a very old story. I like it.
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Yeah, where's my hemp? Did you know hemp stalk produces more paper per area of cultivation than trees?
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Wow, such prophecy.
Too bad he never actually said any of that.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Wow, such prophecy.
Too bad he never actually said any of that.
-- Todd/Leviathn
And you would know?
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DMF speaketh the trutheth. (http://www.snopes.com/language/document/vision.htm)
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Originally posted by Sandman
DMF speaketh the trutheth. (http://www.snopes.com/language/document/vision.htm)
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How does DMF know what Washington said or didn't say? That link dates the story at 1880. Still I like it.
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I had me a vision. There wasn't any television. From looking into the sun.
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Originally posted by Nash
I had me a vision. There wasn't any television. From looking into the sun.
visions are pretty cool, eh?
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Not if they involve wallpaper.
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NUKE.....
THANK YOU...
really thanks.
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Nash, you found that "vision" story interesting didn't you?
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I did.
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Repent (http://people.howstuffworks.com/urban-legend.htm)
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But the snopes link did throw in this ... which is equally as compelling to me:
In its expression of the theme that America can never be conquered by external enemies, but can only be brought down through the failings of its own citizens, this piece is reminiscent of thoughts delivered for real by a revered American historical figure: Abraham Lincoln's address before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois, on 27 January 1838:
"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? -- Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the Ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! -- All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. "
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Holy Arlo.... good spot.
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Originally posted by Octavius
Yeah, where's my hemp? Did you know hemp stalk produces more paper per area of cultivation than trees?
Yeah but DuPont had the patent fer nylon, yet another causality of corporate democracy.
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I had a vision once....
What were we talking about again?
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Oh yeaa visions.
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Originally posted by NUKE
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How does DMF know what Washington said or didn't say? That link dates the story at 1880. Still I like it.
I'm not arguing with your liking or not liking the story. But just from reading it, anyone familiar with Washington knows he almost certainly wouldn't have said it. Plus it's too "convenient" in any event. I knew it was misattributed before I even headed to Snopes to confirm it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Dead man flying.....1 problem.
If you look at prophecy in the bible you will find the pattern used in them is the same as Washingtons.
Such as ...look and learn.....son of the Republic....dipping of water from ocean the use of europe,asia and africa.....and the fortelling of 1 or 2 events that happened after a vision to althinacate its position ...such as the civil war.
The angel and the trumpet always sound.
Dont know seems to follow a pattern.
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Well, I used to grow mushrooms at home and have had many "visions"...
The Washington story has always seemed interesting to me.
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Serious Nuke? I keep contaminating mine.
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well grasshopper, you have much to learn.
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Only two attempts :p
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well, I'm not gonna encourage you.
They are serious drugs and can do a lot of harm to your health....no kidding.
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Hey, Bob Saget, thanks.
I wont derail this any further. Hey how 'bout dem George Washingtons!
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Originally posted by Octavius
Hey, Bob Saget, thanks.
Hey, at least I warned you.
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Stay away from them. That's all I'm gonna say.
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[edit] nevermind, done. [/edit]
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Listen man .... I had a mushroom pizza last night. Pizza Hut sells `em. It was ... like ... my 10,029th.
It gave me a vision of .... my next mushroom pizza.
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Man... you gotta back away from the Pizza Hut. It's too dangerous.
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Originally posted by demaw1
If you look at prophecy in the bible you will find the pattern used in them is the same as Washingtons.
Such as ...look and learn.....son of the Republic....dipping of water from ocean the use of europe,asia and africa.....and the fortelling of 1 or 2 events that happened after a vision to althinacate its position ...such as the civil war.
The angel and the trumpet always sound.
Dont know seems to follow a pattern.
So you are saying that God inspired the author of the story, therefore it must be true that Washington said it? :rolleyes:
Unlike Jesus, George Washington wrote his own memoirs...while he was still alive, btw. And I think that he would probably have mentioned somewhere in all his writings this little story of being visited by a vision from an angel.
Plus, the style is nothing the way that Washington wrote. Below is and actual excerpt from his later days as President:
The period for a new election of a citizen to administer the executive government of the United States being not far distant, and the time actually arrived when your thoughts must be employed in designating the person who is to be clothed with that important trust, it appears to me proper, especially as it may conduce to a more distinct expression of the public voice, that I should now apprise you of the resolution I have formed, to decline being considered among the number of those out of whom a choice is to be made.
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Man, some of the things that have been put in the mouths of our defensless founding fathers over the years is shamefull. Especially some of the religious stuff. Now I think that some of the things that they actually did say about religion would be a surprising to most americans.
Remember "I can not tell a lie", I wonder how many adults still believe that he said that.
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Wow, you did use punctuation! Appreciate the effort!