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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Muckmaw1 on October 15, 2004, 07:26:33 AM
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Saw this last night...
The scene is a house party with black men and women dancing the night away while hip hop blares in the backround.
The camera makes its way through the crowd to focus on a young man talking to a young woman about how he just go this great new job as a promoter for a record company and how in months he might try to start his own business.
The girl turns to him and says "Not if you get drafted".
Confused, he replies "What?"
"Not if you get drafted. It could happen and this election could decide it." (Paraphrase)
I think this is a terrible commercial that simply plays on peoples unwarrented fears. No one claimed reponsibility for it, as it was one of those "Get out and vote" spots.
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The Demicrats are desperate. They will stop at nothing, there are no rules.
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Originally posted by ra
The Demicrats are desperate. They will stop at nothing, there are no rules.
I don't even know who put this one out.
I don't really care.
It's the scare tactics I resent.
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funny thing is wasn't there a senate vote recently overwhelming deciding to NOT institute mandatory service?
funny how that makes almost no headlines.
muk what channel was that ad on? BET?
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The irony is that Kerry's "plan" to send more troops to Iraq (anyone remember Johnson and Vietnam?) may well necessitate a draft.
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How else are you going to get the 40K new soldiers Kerry says he is going to send?
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Originally posted by Mighty1
How else are you going to get the 40K new soldiers Kerry says he is going to send?
Illegals?
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Illegals?
-SW
That's an idea
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^ No Kerry needs THEM to work around his houses.
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10% of our active duty military is in Iraq. This percent does not include reservists, although there are many in Iraq. If you do the math for all active duty/reserve, less than 4% of our troops are in Iraq. We could send another 40-50 thou without straining anything but marriages.
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I think we have that commercial beat in the Sessions Vs Frost race. Frost has an ad with nothing but WTC shots (burning, crashing aircraft etc) saying how in effect his opponent is at fault
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The funny part is the naive assumption that the recording industry is a lucritive career :) It is for a small small number of lucky people. For the rest its just a pit stop to a life of working at Popeye's.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
The funny part is the naive assumption that the recording industry is a lucritive career :) It is for a small small number of lucky people. For the rest its just a pit stop to a life of working at Popeye's.
What are you talking about????
(http://www.takeoutmusic.com/articles/news_feed/pics/vanilla_ice_f_180.jpg)
(http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=%22MC+Hammer%)
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Illegals?
-SW
Just like the scene from "gangs of new York". As the Irish immigrants came off the boat, they were greet by men at a table, one says,
"This forms make you a US citizens, this one make you a private in the army, now go and fight for your new country," Don't know for sure if this happend during the civil war of not, but sounds like a good idea to me.
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I'm surpized that no one has brought up the fact that it was Charles Rinegold (D) who introduced the draft bill into congress.
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Tad Devin , advisor for heinz-kerry , said on the news this morning that it was Bush's fault there in a shortage of flu shots.
somehow i just know boosh/haliburton oil cartel is involved, i just know it , i just do.
oh brother :rolleyes:
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Interesting add...
President Bush has stated that no legislation reinstating a draft will ever make it past his desk while he's in office, end of discussion.
The Pentagon has reported that it is meeting it's recruiting goals for the last few years, plus or minus a bit here and there.
Kerry says that he wants to increase the size of the military, but gives no details on how he plans on doing this.
The military is seeing higher than historically average retention due to the soft economy.
Ex-military members tend to learn many highly desired job skills that are very valuable in helping find good jobs after they get out.
One of the biggest arguments FOR the draft is that too many minorities are in the military, however anyone leaving the military takes an enormous amount of knowledge with them when they leave which puts those ex-military minorities a step ahead of the non-minorities who kept smoking dope and working at McDonalds instead of joining up. I'd think that minority leaders would be jumping all over themselves to get more minorities into the military due to the opportunities that it opens up to anyone who may not otherwise have had a way to get ahead. Sure it's a high-risk job, but those risks are not unfairly shared within the military, so once someone joins up, they have the same chances as anyone else including opportunities for education in both general school studies as well as technical skills. On top of that are added the leadership opportunities and, dare I say, even the chance for a little personal glory for those who find themselves in a position where they must act in ways beyond the capabilities of the average person.
Every enlisted troop or officer I know that's getting out is going to a job that pays at a minimum 2x the average entry level high school grad's starting wage, and is often rather high. A 22 year old guy I know just finished 5 years as a communications/computer enlisted troop and he's taking his experience out to a $60,000 civilian job with a major network provider. While he was in the military he got most of his college degree finished with 100% tuition assistance and when he's finished with that degree he'll be able to compete for promotions and raises with people who went to prestigous 4 or 5 year universities because of the practical experience he will add to his resume on top of his degree.
The whole scare bit about the draft is utter BS, and one of the big reasons behind those pushing the draft is likewise BS. It'll never pass congress, even if it did Bush would veto it, and the current setup meets white house, congressional, and pentagon policy while giving EVERY military member, majority or minority, a huge advantage in the job market over people who never serve their country. So what's the big deal?
Oh yea, that's right... The media and a few scare mongers are whipping a non-event into a huge story, and too many people are not educated enough on the issue to know that they're being lied to. That's the big deal.