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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on October 16, 2004, 01:45:10 AM
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Hello all, I am sure there are a few of you that would like to be on the giving end of me saying that, but, I doubt you are.
The story is this. I was leaving the Martini Bar via RumBay in Colorado Springs on the way back to my friends car and some guy (who was shielding his friend peeing in the alley) said, "hey stop looking at my friends dick" Mr not take any poop (me) said, "are you jealous?" The next thing I know I have a HUGE black guy in my face saying, "you're gonna touch my dick, honkey!" I was very adament about me not doing so until his little friend grabbed me and turned me while the big guy DRILLED me in the cheek...
I can say this. I got up, and staggered a bit... and very humbly said I would be touching no such thing and he could kill me trying. He said differently as my friend tried to keep him off my butt. The cops said differently, and I now have to goto court because I answered with a smart arse remark. Mind you, I now have a broken cheekbone. Damn, that boy hit hard....
Will keep you in the know of the proceeds, but am definitely gonna think twice about getting the last word in with a punk.
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Hope all goes well Bodhi. Now get some rest. You seem to need it by all accounts.
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Hey I had a similar incident except I was pissing in the parking lot. Ended up getting a stupid ticket for that. A few hundred bucks! For peeing in a dark spot in a parking lot. The injustice!
:D
Well I goto to run. Its been fun, gnite.
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What provoked the shielding guy to initiate communication? You didn't see it coming? If so, thats a ***** fight. Huge or not, thats bull****. Take your piss, go home, and piss off.
My friends and I have seen our share of fights... two of them often go out for hte sole reason of finding a fight. Regardless if I think it's right or not, I'm with the friends. These two guys can hold their own.. they're huge. It's hte principle of the thing. Alcohol is a large part. Good thing your friend atleast acted.
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You sound like a little trouble maker hoodlum octavious. You need to grow up. Gave this guy on the street a few bucks a few months ago. He was in jail for 8 years cause he beat the crap out of some guy at a bar fight. Sad, eight years for fighting. Save it for what counts, it aint worth it.
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totally alcohol played a part.... had I not been drinking I would have ignored it as a punk, instead I commented and unfortunately was not prepared for the result. My stupidity for that. Apparently I should have been a bit more aware of the sucker punch, but, shame on me for allowing my mouth to get me into trouble, regardless if I deserved it.
For what it's worth, I never saw the punch, and only remember waking up on the ground. Kudos to the guy that hit me, damn good shot. Boy I wish had a chance to take it straight up though, and see it coming. Either way, they kicked my arse and I can't say anything else about it then... damn I wish... lol
ohh and Oct, I have no clue what provoked the guy who commented, we were walking by and oblivious as they were between a bunch of cars.
anyways, night all, gonna nurse my poor ego and cheekbone back over a few zzz's... the er said there is nothing they can do short of putting plates in... sad... all because I could not keep my damn mouth shut.
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Originally posted by senna
You sound like a little trouble maker hoodlum octavious. You need to grow up. Gave this guy on the street a few bucks a few months ago. He was in jail for 8 years cause he beat the crap out of some guy at a bar fight. Sad, eight years for fighting. Save it for what counts, it aint worth it.
You are right. I am a hoodlum. I should go to prison for a long time. Excuse me, your greatness.
You have no clue as to who I am or what I do. If you can gather that much from a TINY paragraph in a BBS, then you're a godamn psychic.
Please, englighten me.
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Hopefully you've read what I said and youll stay out of trouble.
:lol
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I know my limits. Please return to Pleasantville.
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My friends and I have seen our share of fights... two of them often go out for hte sole reason of finding a fight. Regardless if I think it's right or not, I'm with the friends. These two guys can hold their own.. they're huge. It's hte principle of the thing. Alcohol is a large part.
So your saying that one guy defending another guys croch is the kind of thing that you do? You defend your buddys noodle, when he is pssing?
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Good luck Bodhi you violent criminal honkey!
:)
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I leave the noodle defending up to SOB or SW.
I think you should reread. I gave you a taste and you ran off with wild accusations. Where did I specify I initiate contact? Where did I specify I approve of their habits when inebriated? Where did I specify the number of confrontations I've been in? Where did I specify the timeframe in between each confrontation? Where did I specify how often I even get in a situation where that has the potential to erupt?! There are so many unknowns it's laughable you come up with that hoodlum assumption from one post.
If I somehow see someone I know engaged in physical contact with another individual, do I ask questions as he's getting his bellybutton kicked? Honestly, use a little boozetelligence here. No one has a solution for each possible outcome for any given situation. I'm not one to shoot and ask questions later, but in certain situations, you put the fire out first.
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Octavious, I was just kidding with you. I wont lecture you like that. I'll leave that to your dad. Its obvious your a young person and you feel the peer pressures of youthfull exuberance like drunken fighting and gang violence and loyalty. I hope you dont end up learning it the hard way. It leads to nowhere octavious.
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I got knocked out in hockey once by a cross check into the boards. An odd feeling to wake up in public place and not know what just happened.
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Originall posted by senna
Octavious, I was just kidding with you. I wont lecture you like that. I'll leave that to your dad. Its obvious your a young person and you feel the peer pressures of youthfull exuberance like drunken fighting and gang violence and loyalty. I hope you dont end up learning it the hard way. It leads to nowhere octavious.
Way to go. Keep the assumptions rolling. Gang violence? You hear that at the PTA meeting? Maybe I'm the idiot for actually replying. All I can say is you are incorrect. Keep trying though. And I'm not about to argue the side of the degenerates, so you can remove me from whichever label you've already applied.
Oh, wait, my turn for an assumption. You're stuck in the cramped frame of mind. Beleive it or not, life exists outside of your shared hallucination. You're obviously a sheltered moron. Wake up. Hope you felt better after losing a few bucks to that random tard on the street. You should go find him and sue. Your naive understanding of the "real world" made you put on the blinders... unwilling and unable to accept any alternate POV. Afterall, you've got to be correct.
Oh, I was just kidding with you. tee hee!
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"hey stop looking at my friends dick" Mr not take any poop (me) said, "are you jealous?"
Lol, awesome.
I'm sorry that you actually got injured, but that was a terrific comeback.
People that can’t handle getting goofed on, and assault anyone outside of a bar need to be incarcerated. For 2 years at least. Keep them outta the sports bar I wanna just have fun at.
Burn this thug.
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Ouch....well you may feel like you got the better word in...but I bet it hurts like hell.
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Good thing it wasn't Lepaul that hit you. You could sue, but would get 100% of broke dick , "But I run a HTC sucks Alternate BBS! " which is nothing.
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Sorry to hear about the cheekbone Bohdi, but that was a great comback lol "Why you jealous" lol oh man. Reminds me of a time a buddy of mine got into an argument with some guy twice his size, the guy goes "if you dont move im gonna hit you in the face".
So my ingenius friend looks at him, points to his face and goes "what right here, is this where your gonna hit me".
Hope things go well for ya and it heals nicely.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I can say this. I got up, and staggered a bit... and very humbly said I would be touching no such thing and he could kill me trying. He said differently as my friend tried to keep him off my butt. The cops said differently, and I now have to goto court because I answered with a smart arse remark. Mind you, I now have a broken cheekbone. Damn, that boy hit hard....
Will keep you in the know of the proceeds, but am definitely gonna think twice about getting the last word in with a punk.
There's something more to this story me thinks.
Why would the cops be coming down on someone who was assaulted?
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Octavius is a lover not a fighter.
Although he was a football player. But those guys never attack unless the whole team is around.:D
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True story...I was at an intersection and my bike was a bit too far into the oncoming lane. A rather large black man came speeding around the corner and thought I was going to drive right in his path and made a quick adjustment to avoid what he thought was going to be an accident, but I had already stopped. He turned and yelled "You white pu**y!"
This annoyed me so I turned to go after him with every intention of saying "Well you are what you eat. I guess that makes you a big di*k"
Then I noticed the width of the guys shoulders and the bulging forearms he had.
Decided against it.
:)
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alcohol is a wonderful thing ..
probably the reason bubba was urinating in public and definitely the reason you got a suckered punch busted jaw..
the world is too crazy to be a smart arse .. you are lucky he didnt have a gun or a knife
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I was a teacher in Colorado Springs. I think that guy’s illegitimate kid was in my class.
eskimo
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P.S.
While teaching in Colorado Springs a parent of one of my students was murdered for pi$$ing off a guy like this over a parking space.
eskimo
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Bodhi, you forgot that you were not on a BBS. You could have totally gotten away with it here and been much, much drunker doing it.
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Nuke,
they are not coming down on me, just the racist who cracked me.
Oh, and yes all it hurts, but not as bad as you might think. Swollen pretty good, but no black and blue. The cheekbone, or jugal bone as the doctor said is basically only fractured. The funny thing is, it is floating a bitm and is fractured beneath and in the corner of my left eye.
Guess ole Mr. tough guy is gonna really love me come our first day in court. Hope he enjoyed the lock up. Maybe somebody took a fondness to his dick in their? Lol, they charged him with assault and battery, injury resultant. which I was told last night is a felony here. Cool.
As for anyone suggesting I sue, naw, not my style. But I am going to let the judge know what I feel in regards to the suit and what my feelings of reparation would best be, incarceration, plain and simple.
Doubt it will happen, especially if the POS has no record. Anyways, like Eagler and Eskimo said, I am lucky he did not have a knife or gun, and am quite thankful there was a cruiser parked just around the corner.
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Originally posted by rpm
Bodhi, you forgot that you were not on a BBS. You could have totally gotten away with it here and been much, much drunker doing it.
lol, naw, I am like that in rl all the time. Not an inet tough guy, nor a tough guy in rl, just someone who hates taking crap from people.
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It's good that you're going to recover, Bodhi. Good luck in court.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
lol, naw, I am like that in rl all the time. Not an inet tough guy, nor a tough guy in rl, just someone who hates taking crap from people.
Most people hates taking crap. Its how you deal with it that counts ;)
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Originally posted by eskimo2
P.S.
While teaching in Colorado Springs a parent of one of my students was murdered for pi$$ing off a guy like this over a parking space.
eskimo
What a wonderful place Colorado Springs must be.
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An ignoraat racist black person hit you in the face and you think he might not have a record? *giggle*
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IIRC that hurts.. been a while, but nothing is more shocking than getting tagged hard on the chin. Hope all goes well.
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Originally posted by Steve
An ignoraat racist black person hit you in the face and you think he might not have a record? *giggle*
Excellent point. :aok
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Hello all, I am sure there are a few of you that would like to be on the giving end of me saying that, but, I doubt you are.
The story is this. I was leaving the Martini Bar via RumBay in Colorado Springs on the way back to my friends car and some guy (who was shielding his friend peeing in the alley) said, "hey stop looking at my friends dick" Mr not take any poop (me) said, "are you jealous?" The next thing I know I have a HUGE black guy in my face saying, "you're gonna touch my dick, honkey!" I was very adament about me not doing so until his little friend grabbed me and turned me while the big guy DRILLED me in the cheek...
I can say this. I got up, and staggered a bit... and very humbly said I would be touching no such thing and he could kill me trying. He said differently as my friend tried to keep him off my butt. The cops said differently, and I now have to goto court because I answered with a smart arse remark. Mind you, I now have a broken cheekbone. Damn, that boy hit hard....
Will keep you in the know of the proceeds, but am definitely gonna think twice about getting the last word in with a punk.
I suppose that realizing that trouble has found you isn't as easy to recognize after you've been drinking. Awareness is everything. However, nice guys like yourself don't think like the thugs. You're not looking for trouble and consequently, you are surprised when it comes looking for you. It's a shame that people like you can't have a fun evening without some insecure punks ruining their evening.
Tough-guy drunks can be found at any club or bar. Anyone out in the parking lot, not actually coming or going, is a prime suspect. My family owned several bars while I was growing up. I worked in most of them while in college, earning enough to keep my car insured and the gas tank filled while I attended classes during the day. You quickly learn who is going to be real trouble and who is just mouth running. You also learn how to handle both. The last time I worked in the family business it was at Smedley's, a medium-large club (250 person capacity) that was a favorite among local firefighters.
Some nights I would work the parking lot with the biggest bouncer, a 6'8", 280 pound monster named John. John's hair was shoulder length, pulled back in a ponytail and he maintained a very full beard. John was a kind, generous guy, but supremely fierce when the need should arise (however, as big as John was, I could never get him into the gym to work-out and spar with me). We were out there to handle trouble makers and run off possible vandals and under-age kids hanging out. When we discovered someone who wasn't coming or going they were invited to come in or to leave. We were always polite. Usually, the guys hanging out were polite as well. John's gigantic size would frighten most into compliance. A few would run their yaps, up until they came to the realization that such behavior would get them physically removed from the property, and likely arrested.
My rules for avoiding getting beat down in a bar or club are simple:
Anyone making an unsolicited nasty, deliberately intimidating comment is probably looking to start a fight. Either beat a hasty retreat, or if he is within reach, instantly crush his testicles or take out a knee. There is no middle ground, do one or the other and don't waste one millisecond thinking about it. DO NOT respond verbally. Either scram or take him out. Never argue, never discuss, never show any hesitation.
Size? Don't be intimidated by bulging shoulders and forearms. Strength is important if the guy can get his hands on you. You will not allow him to do so. In a brawl the only rule is: Disable your assailant as quickly as possible. Of course, most thugs don't drink alone, so if you choose the pre-emptive strike option, take advantage of the shock effect and get some distance between you and them before his friends realize what happened. If need be, find a weapon. If still in the bar or club, a pool cue wielded wisely can clear a room. Don't swing it like a bat, use it like a pike and shove the small end thru an attacker's face. A billiard ball bouncing off a forehead is effective. Those giant, square ashtrays will open a skull like a machette. Do whatever you must to buy enough time for the bouncers to intervene. Don't worry about the legal consequences, they'll be time enough for that later. Right now, staying alive is your only motivation. If outside of the club, you have different options, but you may also be on your own too.
A well managed club will not have many fights in the parking lot. A well managed club will have a crew working the parking lot for the sole purpose of preventing fights. Any large club that doesn't have parking lot security isn't worth patronizing. 90% of drinking related brawls occur in the parking lot. It's also a lot easier to ambush someone outside. When you leave the club, stand by the door and scan the lot for potential threats. Should you suspect anything is amiss, go back inside and ask a bouncer or security person to escort you to your car. Should something happen, now there's a least one more capable guy with you or you and your friend. If you can't get a bouncer, call 911 and let the cops clear the parking lot.
Limit your drinking. If you've had too much to drive, you've had way too much to defend yourself, or even be aware of a potential threat.
Talking about tough guys....
The toughest guy I have ever known, never started a fight. But, he finished them within 5 seconds. Fred B. was an amazing guy. 5'10" tall, about 150 pounds. The devil himself would cross the street to avoid Fred. I watched him smash a 1/2 gallon glass milk container on his brother's head during an argument over something minor. Fred's brother took a swing at him and woke up in the back seat of the family Ford with his head wrapped in a blood-soaked towel enroute to the ER. Well, at least Fred drove him to the hospital.. :) Going out drinking with Fred was like bringing Robocop along, or an especially vicious Doberman. You weren't likely to be harassed. But if you were, you could just sit back and watch the slaughter....
My regards,
Widewing
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he called you a "honky", that makes it a hate crime.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
IIRC that hurts.. been a while, but nothing is more shocking than getting tagged hard on the chin. Hope all goes well.
Ya know MT, I played hockey, fought alot in games... been tagged more than once in the face and have for the most part held my own.
The funny thing is, I never saw the punch coming. He was quick, damn quick. Anyways, he got me pretty damn good.
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Best thing to do is find out where they live.
Lay off for a couple of months then start your planning.
Never let them see you and come in from the blind side. Make sure the first strike is a decisive one. Then kick the crap out of him at your leisure.
I'm small, but I hold a grudge! I once got back at someone 15 years after he embarrased and ridiculed me in front of others. He never knew who did it, but I wa satisfied.
Have a nice day! :)
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bodhi.. don't feel bad. I used to box and I still got tagged from nowhere a few times. Once on the street I got my bell rung by someone I knew was hostile and was watching closely...
My then wife grabbed my arm to get me away from the situation and I looked away for a second.... It doesn't take long. Like you I was lucky... Knew I was going down so hung on and tangled him up like in the ring... Fog still hadn't cleared when my buddies jumped in and hurt the guy pretty badly. Same kinda hit too... right cheek.
His buddies tried to help him and my buddies doberman ended the whole mess.
lazs
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do your friends call you "Dalton" or "Wade"? :)
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Originally posted by Bodhi
The funny thing is, I never saw the punch coming. He was quick, damn quick. Anyways, he got me pretty damn good.
you sure it was a punch? maybe it was an uppercut... and you did touch it afterall...
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Aside from a bunch of housing deficient people, I found Colorado Springs to be a great little town, but I was only there for a day.
There are *******s everywhere though, I hope that's all this was. God knows I've been in Bhodi's position, only I couldn't get medical attention, because I was in the Navy and would have gotten in a ****load of trouble lol.
-Sik
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ok this is the latest...
got a call, that when they booked the idiot last night he had meth on him, and it was apparently quite a bit. He also has quite a history... (Steve was correct) and is in a lot more trouble than just hitting me. The way the det said it, is that they would rather me not press charges as they are concerned of what he might do if he finds out where I live. It is just best that they process him on the other items and take it from there, as opposed to putting me into a problem.
So, I am undecided, I want to press charges, and I want to not be intimidated, but I also would rather not have him mess with my fiancee if he were to find out where I live.
This really pisses me off...
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Originally posted by Bodhi
"you're gonna touch my dick, honkey!"
Hate crime. Ream his bellybutton in court.
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Seems like a simple choice... No reason to unnecsarily endanger yourself or family by getting involved any more. Your retribution, if thats what you are looking for, is the fact that he will be brought up on much more serius charges and will go away for a long time because he was stupid and got arrested for attacking you. Get some rest and go see a funny movie, it's proably much safer.... ;)
And Funked is right, this was a hate crime... Or it would be if the situation was reversed.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
ok this is the latest...
got a call, that when they booked the idiot last night he had meth on him, and it was apparently quite a bit. He also has quite a history... (Steve was correct) and is in a lot more trouble than just hitting me. The way the det said it, is that they would rather me not press charges as they are concerned of what he might do if he finds out where I live. It is just best that they process him on the other items and take it from there, as opposed to putting me into a problem.
So, I am undecided, I want to press charges, and I want to not be intimidated, but I also would rather not have him mess with my fiancee if he were to find out where I live.
This really pisses me off...
can't the state press charges if it is a fellony?
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Originally posted by Bodhi
ok this is the latest...
got a call, that when they booked the idiot last night he had meth on him, and it was apparently quite a bit. He also has quite a history... (Steve was correct) and is in a lot more trouble than just hitting me. The way the det said it, is that they would rather me not press charges as they are concerned of what he might do if he finds out where I live. It is just best that they process him on the other items and take it from there, as opposed to putting me into a problem.
So, I am undecided, I want to press charges, and I want to not be intimidated, but I also would rather not have him mess with my fiancee if he were to find out where I live.
This really pisses me off...
You have many happy days ahead of you. As your life goes on this event and this nut will become less and less important. Don't let him impact your life anymore.
If the cops are afraid for you, take it seriously. He'll get in plenty of trouble for the drugs.
It's not fair, and you have the right to be pi$$ed and press charges. Then again, you or your fiancee getting murdered wouldn't be very fair either.
Stay away from crazy people.
Good luck,
eskimo
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Do they have "three strikes" in CO? Maybe you can put this scumbag away for a long time.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Do they have "three strikes" in CO? Maybe you can put this scumbag away for a long time.
I was summoned for jury duty in an assult case a few weks ago and I'll tell you those felonies start adding up real quck when bones are broken, cop's noses bloodied and guns drawn..
Meth is great too, I can tell from personal experience that it ruins lives real good. So three strikes or not this fella is going away for a long time if he allready has a significant record.
See ya!
:rofl
So best keep away Bodhi..
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2nd what eskimo said
stay away from crazy ppl every chance you get
you don't need a meth racist Swager-type or one of his buddies to have to look over your shoulder for the rest of your life
take it as doing your civil duty, you got a busted jaw but ya got a meth user/dealer off the streets in the process :)
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How did the Cops actually end up apprehending the guy?
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Just let it go Bodhi... thats my advice.
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Damn Devo. You got knocked the **** out.
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He tried to grab a guys d*ck from what I have heard :D
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Bodhi, let the charges drop if it's a hassle for you.
Getting his home address, assuming he isn't homelss, should be easy. Make a house call.... I have always found that very satisfying.
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umm even if you do drop the charges, you think this guy isnt still going to blame you? Him hitting you is the reason he got caught with meth. Sniper the guy, quick like.
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The problem with not pressing charges is this guy will continue to get away with this type of behaviour.
If he goes to court on the drugs only his lawyer will claim it's an unlawful detention and search, he will claim that the cops made up the whole assault story in order to violate his clients rights.... If your not there to testify to what happened then there is a good chance he will be "walking".
It's a tough choice to make, and of course yours to make, but not pressing charges will not prevent this guy from being pissed off at you for him losing his meth.
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Originally posted by Eagler
do your friends call you "Dalton" or "Wade"? :)
I'm not sure who I hate worse. You for typing that, or me for knowing what you're talking about. :D
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Originally posted by SOB
I'm not sure who I hate worse. You for typing that, or me for knowing what you're talking about. :D
What? Doesn't everyone know he speaks of Patrick and Sam?
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Originally posted by SOB
I'm not sure who I hate worse. You for typing that, or me for knowing what you're talking about. :D
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Widewing was a "Cooler" :)
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I wanna be the blind guy w/ the guitar.
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Originally posted by Steve
I wanna be the blind guy w/ the guitar.
... and I want to wear Lynch's bellybutton as a hat. ;)
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Originally posted by Eagler
do your friends call you "Dalton" or "Wade"? :)
LOLOL...Took me a few minutes to figure out what you meant.
No, we had very few serious altercations. Too many bouncers, most of them big and mean and we usually saw it coming and got things calmed down before they got out of hand. If it was just testosterone and they weren't drunk, we could usually restore things without anything more than talking. If they were drunk, then we would escort them out. I remember one guy who reached around the doorman to punch another guy. He was subdued, restrained and handed to police. We kept several rolls of duct tape which were used to restrain guys who wouldn't otherwise be trusted to sit quietly. We would duct tape his hands and ankles and hand him over like that, much to the cops' amusement. That happened only two or three time over four years.
Our regulars were all well behaved. It was usually someone who rarely, if ever visited.
I was an amateur boxer, weighed right around 145 lbs when not training for competition. At 5'11", I was tall and lanky. Not intimidating at all in appearance. That was the bouncers' job. I was shoved a few times, but didn't have to or need to retaliate. The trouble maker was going to lose no matter what he did.
I would merely step back and let the guys being paid to keep order do their job.
By the way, my brother was usually bartending. My father was the owner/manager and our lookout, having been in the business for 30 years, he knew what to look for. Not long after, I went off to the Navy. I never returned to the business. My father and brother eventually got out of the business. Today, my brother is Vice President of sales for the Sleepy's Mattress chain.
My regards,
Widewing
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Sorry to hear that Bohdi. Hope you heal fast.
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Interesting the cops are telling you not to press charges for what would be a class 4 felony agg assault and that they'd rather go after him for a class 4 felony meth possession which here in Arizona would fall under Prop 200 and not even land him in jail.
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You must press charges then arm yourself. It is the only way.
;) :D
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FYI,
I am pressing charges. Spoke to the det again yesterday, and expressed my concerns, and then spoke to my fiancee this morning about it. Frankly, we, my fiancee and I both feel the same way, and are not going to be intimidated by a POS racist.
Oh, and for those with the comments on the hate crime, I brought that up, and apparently there was another independant witness that said the same thing my friend and I said in regards to his racial comment. What I did not know, was that while I was laying on my arse knocked out, the guy that hit me was yelling how do you like that ya white *****.... thats black power for you... so there is ample evidence of his racism besides the one comment I heard.
Anyways, as a few of you have said, this is already fast becoming a non issue to me. I think that he is a POS and that I need to do what I can to ensure that he gets his just reward for acting like an idiot punk.
Will keep you informed about how it goes.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
"you're gonna touch my dick, honkey!" I was very adament about me not doing so until his little friend grabbed me and turned me while the big guy DRILLED me in the cheek...
In Michigan you could get him on Criminal Sexual Conduct for that. Either 2nd or 4th degree... possibly another felony there, at least a misdemeanor. The detective say anything about the sex crime aspect of it?
Hope all goes well for you.
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Bohdi here is what you must do now.
Write down everything that was said and the sequence of events exactly as they happened.
Go over it with your friend who was there. Leave out nothing. Write down what they were wearing if you remember and what you were wearing, where they were standing, what hand the guy hit you with, what the other guy was doing.
Discuss it with the other witness. Make sure you have it all clear and writtten down.
Right now it is fresh in your memory. But in 6 months it is amazing what you will forget. You can be sure the other guy will fight the charge in court and you will have to be a witness. When you get on the stand give you version of the events and do not stray from it. If they ask you if the guy had glasses on or gloves or a hat or whatever tell them if you remember but if not say "after he knocked me out I was a bit fuzzy and do not recall that" or I don't remember that detail.
Trust me if you want to nail his bellybutton do this and court will be a breeze. If not you will be amazed at how your version of the events can be so different from your friends if they cross examine you sperately.
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already done.
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my friend is going to be deployed to Iraq in 2 months, so his testimony will be all written. They (the police) are already arranging that as soon as they find out who the schmcuks attorney replies on monday.
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You will have no problem getting him convicted of criminal assualt.
Be sure to write down things that showed how he was beligerant and pugnacious and lucid and coherent, but not drunk and incoherent. He will probably claim you provoked the attack by making a sudden movement or threatening action so be sure to remember what you were wearing and show how it was impossible to conceal a weapon for example.
Make sure you get across how you were blindsided and did not even raise your arm to block the punch. They will probably make you demonstrate how he hit you in court. Work out all the moves in advance so they can't trip you up with the "he is left handed but you claim he hit you with his right or visa versa."
Show how your friend was not nearby enough to make it look like both of you were ganging up on him. You need to show that you were not threatening to attack him by your actions or words or posture.
He only defense is that you were going to hit him and he hit you first as self defense. Make sure you stay calm and cool in court, the other lawyer will try to make you lose your temper to show you are a hot head. It is all just a show, be sure to play the part you have to to convince the judge you are right.
Good luck.
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Habu,
Appreciate the advice. I have testified as an expert witness on other ends so am aware of attorneys scare tactics. As for the way he hit me, I never saw it. I had been turned away by his friend as best as I can remember and he hit me in the side of the face.
The next thing I knew, I woke up on the ground...
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That was a great line Bodi, bummed it has had such a heavy penalty. Good luck! Drink Up! 8)
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Originally posted by Bodhi
As for anyone suggesting I sue, naw, not my style. But I am going to let the judge know what I feel in regards to the suit and what my feelings of reparation would best be, incarceration, plain and simple.
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Sheesh... I'd take the dudes last penny and then some.
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no advise here.... I am single and so I would press charges and welcome him to try and come bother me. I realize that having a family that is a selfish attitude maybe but...
these guys need to be taken off the street... if he allready has 2 felonies then he might be under the 3 strikes law if you have one. If you don't press charges then the next guy he coldnoodles will be (at least partialyu) because he got away with this one.
lazs
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Hello all, I am sure there are a few of you that would like to be on the giving end of me saying that, but, I doubt you are.
The story is this. I was leaving the Martini Bar via RumBay in Colorado Springs on the way back to my friends car and some guy (who was shielding his friend peeing in the alley) said, "hey stop looking at my friends dick" Mr not take any poop (me) said, "are you jealous?" The next thing I know I have a HUGE black guy in my face saying, "you're gonna touch my dick, honkey!" I was very adament about me not doing so until his little friend grabbed me and turned me while the big guy DRILLED me in the cheek...
I can say this. I got up, and staggered a bit... and very humbly said I would be touching no such thing and he could kill me trying. He said differently as my friend tried to keep him off my butt. The cops said differently, and I now have to goto court because I answered with a smart arse remark. Mind you, I now have a broken cheekbone. Damn, that boy hit hard....
Will keep you in the know of the proceeds, but am definitely gonna think twice about getting the last word in with a punk.
Reason number 3544 for CWPs.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
ok this is the latest...
got a call, that when they booked the idiot last night he had meth on him, and it was apparently quite a bit. He also has quite a history... (Steve was correct) and is in a lot more trouble than just hitting me. The way the det said it, is that they would rather me not press charges as they are concerned of what he might do if he finds out where I live. It is just best that they process him on the other items and take it from there, as opposed to putting me into a problem.
So, I am undecided, I want to press charges, and I want to not be intimidated, but I also would rather not have him mess with my fiancee if he were to find out where I live.
This really pisses me off...
Just let it go man....pride is not worth it....trust me on this one.:)