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Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: nopoop on October 16, 2004, 07:38:40 PM: I don't know..

Haven't done any detailing yet. Just wanted to plug in the paint and general stuff on one side and see if it works.

I don't know. I'm sort of an olive drab kinda guy. Is it worth further work. It's so damn loud.

I've looked at it all day so my objectivity is gone. At this point I think it would work, but like I said, I'm a drab guy
looking at bright blue paint for far too long.

What do you think ?? Is it workable ??

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/474_1097972665_bostwick.jpg)
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: United on October 16, 2004, 07:47:46 PM: Oh yeah. Go for it nopoop. It will be something completely different and unique.
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: thebest1 on October 16, 2004, 07:48:05 PM: :eek:
its a ........ TARGET! :lol itll be a "challenge" to fly! lol good work though
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Octavius on October 16, 2004, 08:34:12 PM: Awesome :) Yeah, definitely go for it poopie. The final product with all the details will take away some of the loudness you might be seeing. I think it looks great, not loud at all.
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: TBolt A-10 on October 16, 2004, 08:59:13 PM: O yes! lol. I love it. PLEASE finish this one, nopoop. :aok PLEASE!

I'm making that one my full-time jug for the variant. :D
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Guppy35 on October 16, 2004, 11:14:08 PM: Where's the info on the Blue camo come from nopoop? I've seen it mentioned before, but I don't know that I believe they really had em.

Sure seems like it's just dark OD in the photos of the P47Ms.

I haven't seen any color images of blue camo Jugs.

Not saying it didn't happen, just wondering where that idea came from.

It makes me think of the great debate over the 361st FG Mustangs. It was OD camo on top but folks insist on believing it was blue.

Dan/Slack
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: United on October 16, 2004, 11:51:26 PM: Heres a profile I found, but it doesnt quite match nopoops version.

(http://www.ukwarbirds.fsnet.co.uk/warbird%20images/profile%20graphics/p47M%2056th%20FG.JPG)
A P-47M of the 56th FG after moving to Boxted in Essex circa spring 1945
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Guppy35 on October 17, 2004, 12:20:19 AM: Color photo of a 56th P47M from the same time frame.

Dark blue or OD? Sure looks OD to me, but you could argue it was a very dark blue as well.

The danger of not having an actual paint chip from the real aircraft :)

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1097990278_p47m.jpg)
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: XtrmeJ on October 17, 2004, 06:02:13 AM: I'd say keep it up Nopoop. Quite a fan of your work hehe.
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Monk on October 17, 2004, 06:26:22 AM: Quote
It's so damn loud.
That's the point, nothing better then "In your Face" late war 56th camo. Keep it up, it looks great.

While you are at it how about a black camo P47.
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: nopoop on October 17, 2004, 11:34:41 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
Where's the info on the Blue camo come from nopoop?

I haven't seen any color images of blue camo Jugs

That's the rub. You supplied the only color shot of that plane with those camo colors I've ever seen.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1097481923_p47m.jpg)

We can accept that the horizontal stab in light blue. But with the color faded condition you can't
tell the color of the camo. In the quote below we can accept that the
letter designations are natural metal. So the question is is the camo stripping a sea grey or
a light blue. Is the dark color a dark blue or dark drab ??

My plate shows the same colors as United's and makes comments of the "garish" paint

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/474_1097545747_guppy2.jpg)

Here's another two plates I found by different artists. Shows a more "navy" blue which may be
closer to the truth. But the second color in both is a light blue.

(http://gr.fipu.krasnoyarsk.edu/camms/archive/ww2_fighters/0036/pics/0036_3_19.jpg)

(http://gr.fipu.krasnoyarsk.edu/camms/archive/ww2_fighters/0036/pics/0036_3_31.jpg)

All three plates are from the 63rd FS Boxted/Essex timeframe. Your additional photo is from
the 62nd FS. Different camo colors for different FS's ??? Who knows. It's all circumstantial
evidense regardless.

There's GOTTA be a good color photo out there :) Or a reference somewhere to the wild colors..
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Monk on October 17, 2004, 11:38:36 AM: I did read somewhere, the dark blue has a purple tinge to it.
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: nopoop on October 17, 2004, 03:09:30 PM: Searched the web, have my feelers out at another game's 56th for info but no luck so far.

Took the original photo and adjusted for three things. The color of the sky, the cowl and the stabilizer which are known, while still having the green of the bushes. Very inaccurate but it's all there is to work with.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/474_1098043095_rework.jpg)

From the angle of the sun, the area below the insignia and at the vertical stabilizer would give the "best" representation of the light camo color with the stripe at the cockpit being washed out.

Now, where did they get the paint ?? Navy issue or a barter with the brits by a ground crewman ?? Air Force colors don't jive but both the RAF and USN have colors that fit.

Has to be Navy Blue or the British variation. Both have azure blue in their color charts for the light camo.

LOL, fun stuff !! Nothin like going out on a limb :D
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Sp4de on October 17, 2004, 03:24:31 PM: Enemy will be scared of a big blue thingy from the sky! ISH GOZILLA!! AHHHHHHHHH:lol
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: TrueKill on October 17, 2004, 03:29:48 PM: that skin might make my wanna fly a jug.
nopoop next skin u should make is the invisable 190A-5 :D
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Howitzer on October 17, 2004, 06:47:02 PM: WOW...that thing is SWEET!
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: nopoop on October 17, 2004, 07:29:27 PM: Well fiddled all day with colors. Using Navy paint from that period it comes out like this. Looks
alot closer to the picture. Navy blue with the light blue of either the Navy or the RAF equivalent.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/474_1098058859_zz.jpg)

Not as loud, and done with colors that would have been available. Guppy...I'm lost..

Thanks guys !!
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: TBolt A-10 on October 17, 2004, 10:13:10 PM: I love that thing. Do you think they'll allow it in the MA - enough historical background?
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: nopoop on October 17, 2004, 10:21:55 PM: I'm diggin T-Bolt, I'm diggin :D
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Guppy35 on October 18, 2004, 12:11:06 AM: Problem for me is it makes more sense that the 56th was able to get RAF camo colors and went with that.

I'd suggest that the darker cowl behind the red is darker/newer OD vs RAF dark green. If you take into account the star and bar being insignia blue, it's darker then the dark part of the camo too.

It makes more sense for the gray/green camo as they were still strafing airfields etc.

Just my thinking on it, nothing to prove it either way other then what makes the most sense to me.

It does look good though :)

Dan/Slack
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: moot on April 27, 2005, 11:45:11 AM: So was it ever submitted?
Title: Bostwicks 56th FG wild paint P47M
Post by: Seeker on April 27, 2005, 12:01:45 PM: It's dark blue.

Guppy; if you trawl through BW; you'll find a bunch of scans I did for Earl on some really wild Jug schemes (mind you; it must be at least two years ago).

I can send 'em to you if you like (can't post pix here any more :(