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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ra on October 17, 2004, 05:00:45 PM
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This article (http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/10/wo_muller101504.asp) describes how the widely-believed "hockey stick" graph, which shows earth's temperature rising dramatically, is "mathematically flawed." If you read between the lines, you can see that it is actually "mathematically fraudulent." You won't see this article in the New York Times.
ra
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theres a movie that was filmed in the 20s at columbia ice field near jasper, at that time the ice field was covering where the interpretive center is now.
in 1981, according to my parents, it was pretty much right up against the highway.
(http://www.darylandjoel.com/Canada99/Photos/ColumbiaIceFieldSM.jpg)
this is where it was in 1999, summer.
its even further back now, the lowest level its been pretty much since it was created (geological history proves it.)
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Does it mean scientists that are funded by the government, if they find out everyting is Ok for the next 10 thousand years and they can now go study frogs, sometimes post results that are skewed?
No! Darn it. I was juked again.
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Something I saw recently which I found interesting, was the relative density of the amazon in relation to CO2 levels. It seems global pollution has mean't the Amazon is at a peak in growth and density its never reached before.
Quite amazing really. It also confirms pollution is buttering with the ecosystem, but throws a little bit of a spin on it.
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map in a magazine showed that most co2 obsorption is done by the sargasso sea, and other such sea things.
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Yep, a lot of the glaciers back home that I remember from my childhood are gone. Sad.
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I heard a pretty good explenation on the whole global warming thing....
In the late 80s and early 90s no one ever actually questioned these scientists or their data. Recently (last 5 years) people have actully been testing their theory and find that it is in fact fundamentally flawed. Now you have two different groups of brainiacs both with "data" in hand arguing who is correct.
Behind them you have whatever polotician whos agenda is supported by wich ever scientist.
From what I've read mother nature allways seems to take care of herself one way or another. When she want's us off this planet she'll get her way.
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From what I've read mother nature allways seems to take care of herself one way or another. When she want's us off this planet she'll get her way.
yep, like the evil whiteys disease aimed at the blacks.
even though mother nature can handle herself, shes more likely to adapt to the damage than fix it.
healthy economy=healthy enviroment.
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While I don't see a global ecosystem catastrophe anytime in the near future(i.e.The Day After Tomorrow), to dismiss global warming as junk science is just that, junk.
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A single major volcano eruption will put more CO2 gas into the atmosphere than all of humanity can generate in an entire year. According the what is taught in college geology we (humans) contribute less than 10% of the CO2 buildup in a year.
There is your Kyoto agreement and all your emissions testing. Even if we were to reduce all the emmissions that humans contribute it probably will not have any substantial impact.
Historical data (according to rocks from over 2 million years ago) shows that the temperature of the Earth has changed quite dramatically during it's existence. At one point it was a frozen barren planet that rapidly (geologically speaking) heated up without the benifit of humans.
Ultimately, the environment changes and we aren't doing very much either way to change it.
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Originally posted by Drunky
A single major volcano eruption will put more CO2 gas into the atmosphere than all of humanity can generate in an entire year. According the what is taught in college geology we (humans) contribute less than 10% of the CO2 buildup in a year.
There is your Kyoto agreement and all your emissions testing. Even if we were to reduce all the emmissions that humans contribute it probably will not have any substantial impact.
Historical data (according to rocks from over 2 million years ago) shows that the temperature of the Earth has changed quite dramatically during it's existence. At one point it was a frozen barren planet that rapidly (geologically speaking) heated up without the benifit of humans.
Ultimately, the environment changes and we aren't doing very much either way to change it.
I also read that 10 times more oil seeps into the ocean via the ocean floor every year than what humans "spill" into it
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Mother nature is great at fixing itself but there is a limit to how much junk it can handle. Not a huge problem for us yet tho, so let those that come after our generation fix it.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I also read that 10 times more oil seeps into the ocean via the ocean floor every year than what humans "spill" into it
LMAO That sounds like something right out of a Troy MacClure educational films strip.
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Originally posted by Suave
Yep, a lot of the glaciers back home that I remember from my childhood are gone. Sad.
You also thought AA flight 587 "EXPLODED" over New York.
Weep over your lost glaciers (lol, pry the weirdest liberal pansy merit ever) then let me school you.
No, just let me laugh, as I had a glacier I called "Donnie". He died. He loved Tater Tots too. :(
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Originally posted by Suave
LMAO That sounds like something right out of a Troy MacClure educational films strip.
It was a US Geological survey. Who knows though. They were probably off their rocker thinking there is actually oil reserves under the ocean.
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Global warming is happening because the Earths magnetic field is weak and close to flipping the magnetic poles.
The weak field allows more solar radiation to strike the earth causing warming.
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Interesting theory about the magnetic field.
Creamo are you saying that plane exploded under new york? I'm sorry about your glacier, some wounds time won't heal.
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No, I was making fun of you and your glaciers back home that you remember from your childhood that are now gone. So sad.
And AA 587's vert stab broke off, it didn't explode, over or under anything, including NYC. Was just hoping to bbs smack you for being such a Hangar 18 retard. Kinda lost interest though.
Carry on.
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I think you missed the point of my post in that thread. Which was how stupid the conspiracy theorists were for picking something so obvious while overlooking a silver platter conspiracy theorists' buffet.
And yes that plane did blowup over new york, or if you like, on new york, and I never said NYC.
About the glaciers, making fun of people who like them is not nice.
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i heard a long time ago ice covered most of the earth, i wonder what the cavemen did to cause that.
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I give, but I'm sure you like tater tots.
Out.
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In response to John
So your logic is that because man didn't cause the ice age a long time ago. They cannot be contributing to climate change now.
Got it.
(yes I like tator tots with ketchup)
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Originally posted by GScholz
Gunther Scholz (pron: Gyn-ter Shoul-ts)
OMG is GS a pron star?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I also read that 10 times more oil seeps into the ocean via the ocean floor every year than what humans "spill" into it
Are you trying to be 'subtle' and spoof what I have said?
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I see this global warming things as a weapon I don't know if it's loaded or not... Anyways I'm not going to point it on my foot and pull the trigger.
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Originally posted by Suave
Interesting theory about the magnetic field.
Actually, the magnetic field is going through a period where it looks like it will switch. And this does cause more areas of focused sun radiation to be amplified in concentrated parts of the planet's surface.
The magnetic fields have switched (or flipped) over the history of earth. Of course the process takes many many years to complete, but during that time, there can be short periods of intense instability.
I don't know if it has any affect on global climates, but it does have an affect on the solar radiation that ultimately gets through to the planet's surface.
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Yep, I saw that on TV, it's thought they change every 4,000 years or so, and we're supposedly about due for a switch any century now.
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Dang, this thread makes me want to commute more often in my F250 with its emission-spewing 460 c.i.
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Originally posted by Suave
Yep, I saw that on TV, it's thought they change every 4,000 years or so, and we're supposedly about due for a switch any century now.
I heard it should happen in about two weeks :D
MiG
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global warming is too important a concept to be bound by the restraints of truthfullness.
lazs