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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Krusher on October 19, 2004, 07:14:23 AM
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When Bill Clinton ran for re-election in 1996:
unemployment was 5.2 percent,
inflation 3 percent,
economic growth 2.2 percent.
Economic conditions are similar today:
unemployment is 5.4 percent,
inflation 2.7 percent,
forecast for economic growth this quarter is 3.7 percent.
The national media reports:
Clinton economy (85 percent positive)
Bush economy (77 percent negative)
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I don't think there is anyone left in America that doesn't figure the media is highly liberal biased.
lazs
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What is hard to understand is... why?
One would think the purpose of the media/press
Would be to point out not only whats wrong but also whats right.
Particularly when people like Nobel Prize winner for economics professor Edward Prescott Agrees with current economic policy.
I saw a recent interview with him where he flat out said Kerry's numbers dont add up and Bush's plan was the better one.
actually he said that Bush's tax cuts should have been larger.
this was the closest I was able to find on the subject so far.
Oh BTW when someone wins the Nobel. It usually means you know what your talking about
Russ Wiles
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 19, 2004 12:00 AM
Americans will spend the next two weeks trying to sort through the differences between President George W. Bush and Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry on many issues.
But on the economic front, especially when it comes to taxes and economic growth, the president's policies are more likely to bear fruit, according to Arizona's new Nobel Prize laureate.
"That's an easy one," said Edward Prescott, the Arizona State University professor who shared the 2004 Nobel Prize for economics. advertisement
"When you cut tax rates, employment always goes up," he said in a phone interview Monday with The Arizona Republic.
Prescott, speaking from Minnesota, where he advises the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, described Kerry's plan to roll back tax cuts for top wage-earners as counterproductive.
"The idea that you can increase taxes and stimulate the economy is pretty damn stupid," he said.
Bush's campaign on Monday released a letter signed by Prescott and five other Nobel laureates critical of Kerry's proposal to roll back tax reductions for families earning $200,000 or more.
In The Republic interview, he said such a policy would discourage people from working.
"It's easy to get over $200,000 in income with two wage earners in a household," Prescott said. "We want those highly educated, talented people to work."
Prescott also gave Bush the nod on another controversial campaign issue, dismissing Kerry's claims that outsourcing of jobs is damaging the economy.
"All the rich countries are economically integrated," he said, citing a jump in productivity and wealth in Western Europe after Germany, France and neighboring nations formed the Common Market after World War II.
By contrast, Prescott cited high tariffs imposed by the United States as a "disaster" that exacerbated the Great Depression.
"All economists are for free trade," he said.
Prescott also backed the idea, espoused by Bush, to reform Social Security by allowing some workers to place a portion of their payroll taxes into private savings accounts.
Such an arrangement would give people greater incentive to work, thus leading eventually to higher tax revenue, Prescott said.
Prescott, who shared the Nobel Prize with a colleague from the University of California Santa Barbara, also said he thought the stock market currently is about 20 percent undervalued, in contrast to a 15 percent overvalued threshold when stocks peaked in March 2000. He said that assessment was based on the value of productive corporate assets adjusted for tax rates.
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liberal socialism is too important to be constrained by the truth.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
liberal socialism is too important to be constrained by the truth.
lazs
Doncha know "the end justifies the means"? "Truth" is just a bourgeois notion used to enslave the masses, or at least the minorities.
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Prescott has also said the average Frenchman is 10% more productive than his US counterpart.
Is he still a genius?
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Originally posted by Chortle
Prescott has also said the average Frenchman is 10% more productive than his US counterpart.
Is he still a genius?
Sadly he is correct and they do it in a shorter work week, I believe 35 hours.
But if you ask, of course they will surrender.
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Originally posted by Chortle
Prescott has also said the average Frenchman is 10% more productive than his US counterpart.
Is he still a genius?
LOL thats old news
the facts is the facts even if they soometimes hurt.
Yup he's still a genius
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Originally posted by Chortle
Prescott has also said the average Frenchman is 10% more productive than his US counterpart.
Is he still a genius?
Actually he only said it was 6% more productive, and that's a per-time based statistic which is why in the same paper he showed the French economy 31% depressed from the American economy in 1998 (yes pre-bubble).
Link (http://research.mpls.frb.fed.us/research/wp/wp618.pdf)
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Oh by the way... national unemployment, and inflation haven't been big news issues in what... 20 years? When has projected quarterly growth ever been a really big deal?(in the news) There's no doubt that the media has a liberal bias, but I don't think anybody would be surprised by these three numbers.
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you left the deficit of the list...
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The Economist Magazine released a poll this week of 56 prominent American economic professors. By large margins they agree that Kerry would be better on all aspects of economic policy, with the exception of 'free trade and globisation'.
Oh well, it is 'the dismal science'.
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yep, and the economist is well known for its fair (edit: representative) sampling of society when they go to print
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Originally posted by -MZ-
The Economist Magazine released a poll this week of 56 prominent American economic professors. By large margins they agree that Kerry would be better on all aspects of economic policy, with the exception of 'free trade and globisation'.
Oh well, it is 'the dismal science'.
so what your saying is the economy would do better under Kerry so long as we dont have free trade?
Maybe its just me but the two seem to go kinda hand in hand