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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Vudak on October 20, 2004, 12:36:31 PM
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I'm not trying to open a can of worms here, but there are several other game-based forum sites that have volunteer forum moderators "working" for them. Apolyton.net (Civ2) comes to mind.
Just thinking, not so much for answering questions, but just for policing, why not have a few posters over the years who've proven themselves to be reasonable people, be given the task of making sure everyone plays nice?
I figure it would free up HTC staff quite a bit, as there are tons of threads to go through, and often they are seemingly looked at by HTC because when they get out of hand they are (and should be) locked.
I'd just personally prefer to have HTC working on the game and not playing policeman, though as is currently the setup, it seems they have to.
Not to say HTC would never look at the threads again, but their moderators could clue them in when there is something that ought to be addressed/answered when they get a chance.
You could "pay" the moderators simply by cutting them a deal on their accounts. It wouldn't seem fair for someone to have this never-ending responsibility cutting into their playing time if they still had to pay full price.
Not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I suppose it could qualify under general aces high stuff.
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A few forums exist with 'community moderation.' If a thread is deemed unacceptable, a player can vote against it being visible. After a certain number of votes, the thread goes poof.
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I'd just personally prefer to have HTC working on the game and not playing policeman, though as is currently the setup, it seems they have to.
This is something I talked to pyro about at the con. Was going to let it drop, but since you posted about it I think your quite right.
I would like to see them pass that responsibility on the some of their old time reliable players who in turn could pass along any thread that would need their attention. :) Many of these forums bleed their time without producing any revenue for them. Sure we could argue this sim needs various outlets for the HTC community to toss in their two cents, but often it is a case of narcissism and a waste of development time for HTC to constantly review and moderate.
Best post I have seen in a long time Vudak. Hope it proves to be of value to others as well.
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Originally posted by Octavius
A few forums exist with 'community moderation.' If a thread is deemed unacceptable, a player can vote against it being visible. After a certain number of votes, the thread goes poof.
then the forum mafia end up controlling everything, and reasonable stuff that should get through gets blasted outta the water because it may cause more opposition to there ideas on how things should work.
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We're in a crunch to get 2.01 out right now but after that, I think we need to take a comprehensive look at some different options.
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Originally posted by Pyro
We're in a crunch to get 2.01 out right now but after that, I think we need to take a comprehensive look at some different options.
by bouncing around theory on the board (that works real well :rolleyes: ) or by trial and error testing of different ideas, testing 1 on general and the other on the o'club?
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i think i should be moderator.
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i think i should be moderator.
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I'll volunteer, I'm an equal opportunity pisseroffer:)
NUTTZ
Originally posted by Pyro
We're in a crunch to get 2.01 out right now but after that, I think we need to take a comprehensive look at some different options.
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Has something burned your eyes?
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then the forum mafia end up controlling everything, and reasonable stuff that should get through gets blasted outta the water because it may cause more opposition to there ideas on how things should work.
Forum mafia? LOL a hate title already and it is just in the idea stage. Why do you make a blanket statement like that vorticon? Bad experience somewhere else? Bet you don’t like police officers either. ;)
I don’t see moderators filtering ideas, but civility.
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I think I should be moderated.
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SOB you mis-spelled medicated.
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Do they have a pill for that?!
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amen.
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Originally posted by Vudak
......but just for policing, why not have a few posters over the years who've proven themselves to be reasonable people,........
reasonable people, easter bunny, tooth fairy,bigfoot, loch ness monster.....
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JEEZUZ!
Thats all we need!
A bunch of little Mini err I mean Moderators running about blowing their whistles at any and everything they dont like or deem acceptable.
Trust me, this is the last freakin thing this BB needs.
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see what i mean? ;)
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You can never have enough police - I think 6 policemen to each person would be good. This freedom stuff is geting out of control...
(correct my spelling Star Jones)
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Originally posted by daddog
Forum mafia? LOL a hate title already and it is just in the idea stage. Why do you make a blanket statement like that vorticon? Bad experience somewhere else? Bet you don’t like police officers either. ;)
HEY!!! I'm in the Mafia!!! I will be a moderator
Whadda think Morph?? wanna be my side kick???:aok :D
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lol Tzr!
I'd be your side kick anytime bud. :D
I was talking to Panman, from what he told me I hope things are ok with you. I wont go into detail, not my thread not my business. Just saying.
Shoot me an email if you dont mind.
Morpheus.AoM@gmail.com
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Originally posted by Murdr
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see what i mean? ;)
We dont need it.
Its foolish to waste time with crap like that. Take a look around you. 99.9% of what is writen here is based on opinions. Including my own regarding this BS.
The last thing we need are opinionated old men telling us what we can and cannot say.
Unless its Rod moderating. I'm use to him telling me how he likes things done.
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Methinks my previous implications were misinterpreted.
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Morpheus,
I'm not saying an idea or opinion moderator. Everyone's entitled to both. Still, obviously some people cannot express either in a fairly civilized manner. Sure, most start off that way, but eventually, it degrades.
The problem is, one of the HTC staff has to close the thread. They do this as it is their set policy. Threads that get out of hand will be closed.
My point is, I'd prefer to have HTC staff be freed from the chore of moderating these forums. I'd prefer to have them working on the game. The forums are getting moderated one way or another, don't burden HTC with the task.
"Its foolish to waste time with crap like that."
Allow me to twist your words: it is foolish. It's foolish for HTC to have to waste time on crap like moderating.
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>>it is foolish. It's foolish for HTC to have to waste time on crap like moderating.
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Agree 100%
Mderation, like fertilizing, is generaly overdone.
Don't need obcnenty - and thats about it . Anything else is just plain communication, idiocy, posturing, chest beating etc. - all things proven by thousands of years of democracy, to not cause cancer or mental deficits.
It kinda crazy that many object to gun laws but not speech laws..
oh wait - no it isn't.
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never saw problems in that other online sim, when the volunteer staff moderated it.........
I think Flossy can atest to this as well as many others!
you just need the level headed players that know what is acceptable and knows when someone has pushed it to far over the edge.............
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
never saw problems in that other online sim, when the volunteer staff moderated it.........
I think Flossy can atest to this as well as many others!
LOL TC! :lol Yeah, it certainly worked OK in AW, as did having 'visible' volunteer staff in the arenas. I think it would certainly take the pressure off HTC who, as a much smaller company anyway, have better things to do with their precious time. :)
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Originally posted by Pyro
We're in a crunch to get 2.01 out right now but after that, I think we need to take a comprehensive look at some different options.
2 week deadline?
Karaya
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Please no.
We live in such an over policed controlled world. Not in here too! Keep the board clean by all means but be carefull moderation doesn't become a way of controlling whose opinion gets heard. What about freedom of speech!?
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Originally posted by Vudak
Morpheus,
I'm not saying an idea or opinion moderator. Everyone's entitled to both. Still, obviously some people cannot express either in a fairly civilized manner. Sure, most start off that way, but eventually, it degrades.
The problem is, one of the HTC staff has to close the thread. They do this as it is their set policy. Threads that get out of hand will be closed.
My point is, I'd prefer to have HTC staff be freed from the chore of moderating these forums. I'd prefer to have them working on the game. The forums are getting moderated one way or another, don't burden HTC with the task.
"Its foolish to waste time with crap like that."
Allow me to twist your words: it is foolish. It's foolish for HTC to have to waste time on crap like moderating.
How much you wanna bet that HTC would be flooded with e-mails complaining about the Moderators.
It's to sensative to be handled by the community---and it wouldn't carry the same weight as it does when someone from HTC steps in and slaps the odd keyboard finger.
Now the MA is a different story--we need more moderators
Vudak--great thread
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I think SOB should be moderating too.
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Originally posted by Tinpot
What about freedom of speech!?
Sorry buddy....freedom of speech doesnt exist on a board owned and run by a private corporation.
just saying....
IMO moderators would probably be a good idea if it helped the folks at HTC concentrate more on game stuff instead of wasting so many resources here. But as seen above, some folks are already whining about it and it hasnt even been put in action yet. Some folks just arent mature enough to take responsibility for their own actions. We have seen it before with the in game moderators that HTC assigned. Someone gets muted and they come here and spout off about how unfair it was and how some other guy was saying much worse things instead of assuming responsibility for his own actions and changing the behavior that caused the muting in the first place. It kind of reminds me of the peasant in Monty Pythons Holy Grail screaming "help...I'm being repressed!!"