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Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Scrap on October 20, 2004, 02:35:20 PM

HT...

JU188

Pretty Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Scrap on October 20, 2004, 02:55:38 PM

(http://student.cob.ohiou.edu/pm186200/ju188_a.gif)

Oooooooo

Ahhhhhhh

Pretty Bird!!!!! :p

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Tails on October 20, 2004, 09:39:34 PM

Would I like a Ju-188? Yes
But we need a German heavy before we get the '88 mark 2'.

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Karnak on October 20, 2004, 09:47:33 PM

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Originally posted by Tails
Would I like a Ju-188? Yes
But we need a German heavy before we get the '88 mark 2'.

The Ju188 is functionally a heavy.  It has good defensive guns, a larger payload than the B-17G, good speed and, if the Ju88A-4 is any indication, is very tough.

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Scrap on October 21, 2004, 12:22:58 AM

not just the E1.... but many

Specifications (Junkers Ju 188E-1)

Type: Five Seat Bomber

Design: Junkers Flugzeug und Motorenworke AG

Manufacturer: Junkers Flugzeug und Motorenworke AG with subcontract manufacture of parts by various French companies

Powerplant: (Ju 188A) Two 1,776 hp (1325 kW) Junkers Jumo 213A 12-cylinder inverted Vee engines. (Ju 188D) Same as Ju 188A. (Ju 188E) Two 1,700 hp (1268 kW) BMW 801D-2 14-cylinder two row radial engines.

Performance: (Ju 188A) Maximum speed 325 mph (420 km/h) at 20,500 ft (6250 m); service ceiling 33,000 ft (10060 m). (Ju 188D) Maximum speed 350 mph (560 km/h) at 27,000 ft (8235 m); service ceiling 36,090 ft (11000 m). (Ju 188E) Maximum speed 315 mph (494 km/h) at 19,685 ft (6000 m); service ceiling 31,170 ft (9500 m); cruising speed 233 mph (375 km/h) at 16,405 ft (5000 m).

Range: (Ju 188A and E) 1550 miles (2480 km) with a 3,300 lbs (1500 kg) bombload or 1,209 miles (1945 km) with a 6,614 lbs (3000 kg) bombload (maximum loadout).

Weight: (Ju 188E) Empty equipped 21,737 lbs (9860 kg) with a maximum take-off weight of 31,989 lbs (14510 kg). (Ju 188A and D) Maximum take-off weight of 33,730 lbs (15300 kg).

Dimensions: Span 72 ft 2 in (22.00 m); length 49 ft 1/2 in (14.95 m); height 14 ft 7 in (4.44 m); wing area 602.80 sq ft (56.0 sq m).

Armament: One forward firing 20 mm MG 151 cannon in the nose, a single 13 mm (0.51 in) MG 131 machine gun each in the dorsal turret and the rear of the cockpit canopy, and one 7.92 mm (0.31 in) MG 81 machine gun in lower front fuselage firing aft, plus a maximum internal bombload of 6,614 lbs (3000 kg) or two 2,200 lbs (1000 kg) LT 1B or LT F5b torpedoes under the inner wing. On some aircraft, the rear cockpit canopy MG 131 machine gun could be replaced with twin 7.92 mm MG 81 machine guns.
Variants: Ju 188, Ju 188V-1/V-2, Ju 188A-2/A-3, Ju 188D-1/D-2, Ju 188E-1/E-2, Ju 188F-2, Ju 188S-1, Ju 188T-1.

Avionics: (E-2, D-2) FuG 200 Hohentwiel radar used for anti-shipping torpedo bombing or maritime reconnaissance.

History: First flight (Ju 88B-0) early 1940, (Ju 88V-27) September 1941, (Ju 188V-1) December 1941, (Ju 188E-1) March 1942, (Ju 388L) May 1944.

Operators: Germany (Luftwaffe), France (post war).

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Klum25th on October 21, 2004, 08:04:52 AM

I think the Ju188 was also a long range escort fighter for german bombers since most german fighters couldn't escort them all the way. If we ever do get it be nice to have a Bomber version and a Fighter verison.

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Karnak on October 21, 2004, 09:59:30 AM

Scrap,

The Ju188E-1 is a low performance Ju188.  It was designed to take the engines used in the A series, but they weren't available so they used less powerful engines in the stopgap E series.  

What we'd want, especially considering the need for a mid-war Luftwaffe bomber, would be the Ju188A-1 or Ju188A-2.

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Scrap on October 21, 2004, 11:18:25 AM

You are 100% correct.  

I just thought that I had posted only E model spec's (considering my reference had put E-1 in the header).  However, if you look at the info provided... various specifications for many varients of the 188 are provided.

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Tails on October 21, 2004, 05:21:30 PM

Night fighter varient for the 188 would be nice too. Especially with those upward-firing 'Strange Music' guns. (Yes, I know the translated name is not correct...but I can never remember the german name)

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: thebest1 on October 21, 2004, 05:27:56 PM

I would like the P39N1 1st with its 6 50 cals and 1 37 prop mounted cannon : DROOLING :

Title: LW Bomber Request
Post by: Karnak on October 21, 2004, 05:36:47 PM

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Originally posted by Tails
(Yes, I know the translated name is not correct...but I can never remember the german name)

Schrage Musik which translates to "Slanted Music", which in English is called Jazz.