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Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Gunslinger on October 20, 2004, 09:02:42 PM
Mrs. Kerry Would Focus on 'Gay Tolerance' As First Lady

Submitted By:Jack
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If her husband is elected president, Teresa Heinz Kerry "pledges to make gay tolerance a centerpiece of her First Lady duties," an online media company reported.

In an exclusive interview with PlanetOut -- which describes itself as a gay media company -- Mrs. Kerry made a distinction between sex and sexuality.

She told PlanetOut's senior political correspondent Chris Bull, "A lot of people, particularly those of the more fundamentalist view, think of homosexuality as a sex thing rather than a sexuality thing. They are really very different."

Mrs. Kerry was quoted as saying, "A person doesn't choose their sexuality. For the other side, there's a tinge of the suggestion of sin, of the choice of 'misbehavior,' quote-unquote, which is not the case at all."

Mrs. Kerry spoke with PlanetOut on Friday, following the flap over her husband's remarks about Mary Cheney.

In the third and final presidential debate on Oct. 13, Sen. John Kerry -- in response to a question about whether homosexuality is a matter of choice -- said, "I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as. I think if you talk to anybody, it's not choice."

Both Vice President and Mrs. Cheney expressed anger over Kerry's deliberate mention of their daughter's sexual orientation; some debate watchers called Kerry's remark gratuitous and calculated to alienate social conservatives; and homosexual advocacy groups wondered what all the fuss was about, given their opinion that the Bush administration uses homosexuality as a wedge issue.

According to PlanetOut's Chris Bull, "It is easy to see why she (Mrs. Kerry) connects with gays and lesbians. Even though she does not have gay children and opposes same-sex marriage, she comes across as the picture of a PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) mom, the kind of middle-aged straight woman who gets the warmest reception at Pride parades."

In the interview, Mrs. Kerry said she was surprised that her husband's comments about Mary Cheney inspired such a furor, when her husband was "being positive and complimentary of how the Cheneys have handled, openly, the question of their daughter's lesbianism."

She said if her husband had been asked that same question in one of the primary season debates, he might have mentioned Rep. Dick Gephardt's lesbian daughter, Chrissy, instead.

The San Francisco-based PlanetOut Inc. says its flagship websites, Gay.com and PlanetOut.com, "constitute the most extensive network of gay and lesbian people in the world."
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Lizking on October 20, 2004, 09:06:06 PM
What is the difference between a gay and a lesbian?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: hawker238 on October 20, 2004, 09:08:32 PM
Well, lesbian is specifically to women, and gay is both men and women.  I guess when used in a speech, gay and lesbian are both used to make it more inclusive.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Nash on October 20, 2004, 09:09:41 PM
Huh... that's actually a good question.

I was thinking, okay, Lesbian refers only to girls, no doubt.

But what refers specifically to guys? Like... studmuffins? I mean, even 'homos' refers to both guys and girls. Do gay guys even have a gender specific label?

Butt Pirates maybe?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: john9001 on October 20, 2004, 09:13:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Lizking
What is the difference between a gay and a lesbian?


one has a ding-a-ling and the other dosn't.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Gunslinger on October 20, 2004, 09:17:14 PM
the difference is this:


If a group of gay men and lesbian woman were on a road trip in seperate buses to protest what ever it is they think they are beind discriminated against this week....who would get there first.

The answer is simple.

The lesbians.....they like to lick it and split.....while the guys are still packing there S**t.


Sorry I think I heard that one in JR High.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Lizking on October 20, 2004, 09:23:22 PM
You sure about that?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Shuckins on October 20, 2004, 09:26:33 PM
I must be a lesbian cause I LIKES women...I surely does!
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 20, 2004, 09:46:30 PM
I find most people overly concerned about homosexuality to be sexualy ambiguous. Its true...
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Nash on October 20, 2004, 09:49:46 PM
Why do you call yourself TweetyBird?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: FUNKED1 on October 20, 2004, 09:56:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TweetyBird
I find most people overly concerned about homosexuality to be sexualy ambiguous. Its true...


True.  At first glance many would take Heinz-LeKerrie for a man.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 20, 2004, 10:02:35 PM
>>Why do you call yourself TweetyBird?

<<

Seriously? Because I first started playing AW after breaking my knee in a dance club back in 1992. I was out of work for awhile so was babysitting my young niece - real fun chasing a six -year-old on crutches. Well I was looking for something to do to escape the "why" six year old chatter, and found AW. I needed a handle and guess who suggested "Tweety Bird"?

She 21 now, on her way to being a teacher. But thats it - ask Holmes.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Nash on October 20, 2004, 10:03:52 PM
A dance club, eh?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Chairboy on October 20, 2004, 10:06:27 PM
(http://wendyknits.net/images/dieter1.jpg)
Would you like to touch my monkey?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 20, 2004, 10:06:52 PM
Yup a dance club with a very hard cement floor. If you want I'll try to scan the x-ray of my pettela (sp Star?). It was in six pieces.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Nash on October 20, 2004, 10:08:01 PM
Thanks, but I'll leave the close examination of yer petilla or whatever to someone else.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 20, 2004, 10:10:26 PM
Well why did you ask? You 'll note it was you who asked.
Do you normally ask questions you don't want an answer for?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: kbman on October 20, 2004, 10:14:38 PM
patella I beleive. Also, doesn't 6 + 12 = 18?

kbman
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 20, 2004, 10:17:26 PM
Well I guess she was 8.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Nash on October 20, 2004, 10:17:55 PM
Yer right. I did ask about your name. I didn't ask to inspect your plitella.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 20, 2004, 10:23:08 PM
And you didn't and yet still fixated.

Actually my little accident was source of jokes in the Turkey
Hams "break dancing etc."

I guess you were looking for something freaky - sorry just a run of the mill awkward blunder.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: john9001 on October 20, 2004, 10:25:00 PM
i thought a petilla was a fine cuban cigar?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Nash on October 20, 2004, 10:29:33 PM
I totally get fixated on stuff. I dunno why - and I'm working on it.

Turkey Hams?

The more I know, the more I am afraid to ask.

Forget I ever showed up here.

I'll just chalk it up to some guy breaking his clitellor while performing the challenging "Turkey Ham" on a sheet of cardboard in a dance club, resulting in him naming himself TweetyBird.

I can live with that...
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 20, 2004, 10:32:32 PM
Turkey Hams was a squad that came out of the 1'st and 2'nd AW training academy. Life is not a dildo. Stop reading wierd into everything.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Nash on October 20, 2004, 10:37:37 PM
I'm working on that too.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: john9001 on October 20, 2004, 10:41:06 PM
i don't like turkey ham, turkey hot dogs, turkey burgers,or any other turkey wannabees ...i want turkey turkey and ham ham.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 20, 2004, 10:59:48 PM
Ribeye with broccoli and cheese baked potato - its whats for dinner....
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Gaylord on October 20, 2004, 11:24:18 PM
KERRY FOR PRESIDENT!!! :aok

Gunslinger, I was thinking of joining the Marine Corps- do you have community showers? :D
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Gunslinger on October 20, 2004, 11:38:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gaylord
KERRY FOR PRESIDENT!!! :aok

Gunslinger, I was thinking of joining the Marine Corps- do you have community showers? :D


SHUDDER!!!!!!!!!!


Yup we do.  WE also share pissers as well.....usually 3 or 4 to a uranal.  Most of the time you only have about 30 seconds to epend the contents of your bladder usually and that's counting by drill instructor time.


"30...24...19...15...17...10.. .5..3.....2....1..... YOUR DONE GET OUT OF MY HEAD NOW!"

I know you are being a smart arse but decided to humor you anyways.

personally I have no problem with gays unless they try and force their "culture" on me.  They should know that it is no better then me preaching christianity and forcing Rush Limbaugh down there throats.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: B17Skull12 on October 21, 2004, 12:10:03 AM
Quote
an online media company reported.
i stopped reading there.  It is called a tabloid and it is complete bull **** that has no reason other than to piss people off.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Gunslinger on October 21, 2004, 12:38:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by B17Skull12
i stopped reading there.  It is called a tabloid and it is complete bull **** that has no reason other than to piss people off.



well then go to the "Source" and see for yourself


http://www.planetout.com/news/feature.html?sernum=974
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Saurdaukar on October 21, 2004, 12:46:38 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger

"30...24...19...15...17...10.. .5..3.....2....1..... YOUR DONE GET OUT OF MY HEAD NOW!"


You get used to that.  Wait until about week 4 when the toilet paper starts disappearing from the ****ters, which are situated inches from and facing eachother.

Right up your alley, Gaylord, so to speak.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Gunslinger on October 21, 2004, 12:50:18 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
You get used to that.  Wait until about week 4 when the toilet paper starts disappearing from the ****ters, which are situated inches from and facing eachother.

Right up your alley, Gaylord, so to speak.


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Jackal1 on October 21, 2004, 05:40:45 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
Mrs. Kerry Would Focus on 'Gay Tolerance' As First Lady
 


  Guess she wants her proxy hubby to me more socialy accpepted.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Sabre on October 21, 2004, 07:58:29 AM
If you were a lesbian trapped in a man's body, would the other lesbians be okay having sex with you?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: lazs2 on October 21, 2004, 08:02:52 AM
I believe that the proper term for gay male canadians is "ameristalker"

lazs
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Nash on October 21, 2004, 09:00:26 AM
Wow! Was that ever hilarious Lazs!
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: deSelys on October 21, 2004, 09:17:00 AM
Gays are teh ghey!!!1111
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: midnight Target on October 21, 2004, 09:41:54 AM
I think new terms are needed...

fellagirlie

&

girliefella

think it'll catch on?
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Ripsnort on October 21, 2004, 10:06:30 AM
Teh-Ray-za is such a giving person!  Between 1995 and 2001, $4.3 million of that money came from the Howard Heinz Endowment. In 2002, it and the Vira Heinz Endowment blessed The Tides Center, a San Francisco spin-off of the Tides Foundation, with another $190,000 while the two endowments gave $1.6 million to the new Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania.” The money that flows into The Tides also flows out. They have given grants totaling $489,000 to the Iraq Peace Fund, who used that money to fund the anti-war marches and media costs of 27 groups, including MoveOn.org, whose purpose is to defeat George W. Bush.

Other Tides Center projects include The Youth Gender Project, which seeks to "empower and support transgender, gender-variant, intersexed and gender-questioning youth and young adults."

They also shoveled $200,000 towards The Ruckus Society - founded in 1995 to train activists in violent protest against biotechnology, globalization and the World Bank. It incited property destruction in the Seattle riots of 1999 and Washington, D.C., the following year.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Gaylord on October 21, 2004, 10:32:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
I think new terms are needed...

fellagirlie

&

girliefella

think it'll catch on?


My my, but aren't we quite the little Homophobe, huh?

Sorry to disappoint you, MT, but just because someone is gay doesn't mean they'll have sex with anyone who asks. In fact I've seen your picture and I don't find you attractive at all- if we rubbed winkys together you'd sport wood before me, fella. :rolleyes:
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Ripsnort on October 21, 2004, 10:33:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gaylord
My my, but aren't we quite the little Homophobe, huh?

Sorry to disappoint you, MT, but just because someone is gay doesn't mean they'll have sex with anyone who asks. In fact I've seen your picture and I don't find you attractive at all- if we rubbed winkys together you'd sport wood before me, fella. :rolleyes:


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: slimm50 on October 21, 2004, 11:03:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Sabre
If you were a lesbian trapped in a man's body, would the other lesbians be okay having sex with you?

I believe that's what I am. It's a very exclusive group, entitled to all kinds of minority benefits.:D
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: Ripsnort on October 21, 2004, 11:23:13 AM
Such a lovely looking lady....

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20041016/capt.sge.soo86.161004172346.photo00.default-290x349.jpg)

(http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/throwup.gif)
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: AWMac on October 21, 2004, 01:00:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TweetyBird
Turkey Hams was a squad that came out of the 1'st and 2'nd AW training academy. Life is not a dildo.Stop reading wierd into everything.



:rofl


I'm thinking sig material.....
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: midnight Target on October 21, 2004, 04:17:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gaylord
My my, but aren't we quite the little Homophobe, huh?

Sorry to disappoint you, MT, but just because someone is gay doesn't mean they'll have sex with anyone who asks. In fact I've seen your picture and I don't find you attractive at all- if we rubbed winkys together you'd sport wood before me, fella. :rolleyes:


That is funny.
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: TweetyBird on October 21, 2004, 11:37:46 PM
>>I'm thinking sig material.....<<

Nah - here's sig material..

James Carville (a good Louisiana boy) was on Leno tonight.
He said

"People use political shows like a drunk uses a lampost - for support, not illumination."


Thats good - very Twainish. I'm sure you could tailor it for the OC :D
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 08:49:58 AM
gaylord.... MT is married... if the wind blows he sports wood.  He is hoping to get laid if kerrie wins tho.

lazs
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: midnight Target on October 22, 2004, 09:17:42 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
gaylord.... MT is married... if the wind blows he sports wood.  He is hoping to get laid if kerrie wins tho.

lazs


hehe. I'm showin that one to the wife.

BTW lazs, all those hippie chicks you claimed back when you were a rebel were just our cast offs. :cool:
Title: Ketchup Woman: "gays will be my focus"
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 09:21:52 AM
I am fine with cast offs.   I learned long ago that teaching was too much trouble.

Because I had gratuiitous sex with women constantly and without condoms back then is why everyone has to wear em now... I am unashamed.

lazs