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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Saintaw on October 21, 2004, 05:53:01 AM
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Regarding the new Flu shot drama that you're having... just saw that "Institut pasteur" is about to send 22M. Flu Vaccine shots to the US.
I have to admit it made me laugh :lol
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Freedom Shots?
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Wow, you're giving it to us? Thanks!
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Not our fault, it was the brits who stopped production.
Howewr we do appreciate your prompt surrender of the French national flu vaccine reserves, the bombing will stop shortly.
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How dissapointing, I thought you would boycot that one too :p
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It's going to be concentrated Sarin. No WMDs in Iraq, they MUST have gone to France.
-SW
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Wow, you're giving it to us? Thanks!
And very nicely you give some million $ back ;)
Isn't it lovely ?
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Sure'll be nice to have a working maginot line this time.
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Originally posted by straffo
And very nicely you give some million $ back ;)
Isn't it lovely ?
If we have to pay for aid... then that wouldn't that instead be considered trade?
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Aren't flu shots reserved to elderly and generally deficient people?
Now wonder you need it bad... :p
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I am gonna boycot it and I don't even care about the french.
lazs
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At your age, you shouldn't turn down a flu shot, Lazs :lol
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maybe but.... I have never had the flu or a cold that I can recall. I figure that if all the other lab rats get theres then I won't need one anytime in the forseeable future either.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I am gonna boycot it and I don't even care about the french.
lazs
I disagree, if you need it you should have the shot ... I don't think it's will transform you in a healthy yuro-socialo-liberal-commie :)
but who knows for sure ?
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The only persons needing a flu shot are the very young or very old, otherwise you're just weakening your own natural immune system.
The best thing you can do is stay away from anyone you know is sick, and wash your hands frequently.
You need to wash your hands with soap and hot water, and you need to do it for at least 15 seconds. You can also use one of those alcohol-based hand disinfectants.
There is also some anti-viral drugs that can reduce the severity of the flu if they are taken within 48 hours of the first symptoms. These are prescription drugs and you'll need to see a doctor to get them.
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they even come wrapped in white hankerchiefs...
so thoughtful :) ;)
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I still believe that There shouldn't be any flu shots. If for some odd reason, no flu shots are usable, anybody who came to rely on them doesn't have a natural immunity and is ****ed.
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good thing the French do not take the 'cowboys' which seem to make up the majority of posters here seriously
:p
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Isnt there only like a 1 in 4 chance they give the right shot anyway for the right strain?
I seem to remember last year they gave out the shot for one strain of flue and we ended up getting hit with an entirely different strain anyway
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It's all hit or miss. They try to judge what strain will be big 1-1.5 years in advance.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
If we have to pay for aid... then that wouldn't that instead be considered trade?
Not when the US already had a annual 6.5 billion dollar trade deficit with France as of August.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Not when the US already had a annual 6.5 billion dollar trade deficit with France as of August.
Are you suggesting that the US is too generous with the French in buying their goods? I would agree but it doesn't seem like you to say so.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Are you suggesting that the US is too generous with the French in buying their goods? I would agree but it doesn't seem like you to say so.
Nope, balanced trade is the exchange of goods and/or services for likewise. None balanced trade is the exchange of goods and/or services for pieces of paper with dead famous people on them.
Goods and/or services have inherent value in them. Since the US went of the gold standard the dollar isn't back by any commodity with inherant value. So the US is got 6.5 billion dollars worth of "free" stuff from France.
France is giving the US vaccine (which has inherant value, you can like, vacinate people with it). In exchange France is getting yet more dollars, which it already has more of than it could ever spend anyway.
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Thrawn, are you saying then that France can't spend those US dollars on anything other than US goods? That is what it seems like to me.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Thrawn, are you saying then that France can't spend those US dollars on anything other than US goods? That is what it seems like to me.
That is exactly what I'm saying.
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I think you're wrong. There are many countries willing to trade their goods for US dollars. If the French have no need of buying anything from anyone could they not trade them for a currency you deem more valuable?
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Originally posted by AKIron
I think you're wrong. There are many countries willing to trade their goods for US dollars. If the French have no need of buying anything from anyone could they not trade them for a currency you deem more valuable?
Well, some third world nations, but what would France want to buy from them?
France goes to Japan and says, "Bonjour, we want to buy $6.5 billion dollars worth of consumer electronics from Sony.".
"Ah-so," says Japan, "what are you going to use to buy the yen you need to buy the product from Sony?".
"Well we have these 6.5 billion USDs we got this year up to Augest.", France mentions hopefully.
And Japan responds, "...yeah thanks but no thanks. You see we got almost 50 billion of the stupid thing so far this year (the US has an almost 50 billion dollar trade deficit with Japan as of August this year). We'll take your Euros though.".
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Well, there is an open market for currency trading. However, I'll grant you that we buy far too much from France and some others. Maybe it's time we gave up on the idea of free trade and imposed greater constraints. I'm doing my part to reduce the trade deficit, with France at least.
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Greater constraints? The US lives on imports. What do you think will happen to the prices of just about everything if you start imposing these 'greater constraints'? I've seen the *****ing about fuel prices - I'd hate to see what would happen in that scenario.
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What would happen is that eventually we would become a producing country again instead of a consuming one. I never implied it would be easy.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Maybe it's time we gave up on the idea of free trade and imposed greater constraints.
Something has to be done. Unfortunately any corrections made at this point will have to draconian and painful to the US. But when the other option is the economic collapse of the US, I think those steps are necessary.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Greater constraints? The US lives on imports. What do you think will happen to the prices of just about everything if you start imposing these 'greater constraints'? I've seen the *****ing about fuel prices - I'd hate to see what would happen in that scenario.
What would happen to prices if the USD "Argentinas".
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Re: U.S. Economy.
Whats great about it is this: If we tank, the WORLD tanks!
Muhahahahahahahaha!~:rofl
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Re: U.S. Economy.
Whats great about it is this: If we tank, the WORLD tanks!
Muhahahahahahahaha!~:rofl
Not necessarily, the governments of the counties won't have to tax their citizens to buy those billions of USDs. That would free up those monies for increase in standard of living or captial investment.
There would be an immediate displace of labour in the exporting sectors, but frankly, so what? Those people have been sucking up tax dollars for ages anyway. But once the labour correction is done, they find jobs in sectors that actually benefit countries and their economies.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Re: U.S. Economy.
Whats great about it is this: If we tank, the WORLD tanks!
Muhahahahahahahaha!~:rofl
ego
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Not when the US already had a annual 6.5 billion dollar trade deficit with France as of August.
I think giving them back their country free of charge should cover most of that deficit.
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Originally posted by RTStuka
I think giving them back their country free of charge should cover most of that deficit.
Well, they paid you in kind by giving you a country to begin with. ;)
I understand the sentiment, but that isn't going change the economic realities.
If you want to know why the US went off the gold standard, just take a look at this.
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.txt
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Well, they paid you in kind by giving you a country to begin with. ;)
I understand the sentiment, but that isn't going change the economic realities.
If you want to know why the US went off the gold standard, just take a look at this.
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.txt
Hey we paid france for alot of this country. :aok