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Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: john9001 on October 21, 2004, 10:37:44 PM
john heinz-kerry bought new camos, borrowed the "family" shotgun, called the media and went hunting for a photo op.

"hey guys, get a shot of me holding a gun".
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: NUKE on October 21, 2004, 10:41:11 PM
And he thinks that he will "trick" normal men into thinking he's a regular guy afterall. What a moron he is.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: sling322 on October 22, 2004, 07:43:54 AM
I heard about him going goose hunting while I was driving in to work yesterday.  I wondered how he was going to kill anything being a panty waste liberal who wants to take everyones guns away.  I thought....what is he gonna do, throw rocks at them?
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Saintaw on October 22, 2004, 07:46:47 AM
Bow and arrows did do the trick for a couple of centuries...
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 07:54:33 AM
yep... this is probly the most insulting pandering of the whole campaign.   I don't even think you are suppossed to take that hairdcut outdoors anyway.

He is trying to prove that all his voting to gut the second amendment for 20 years and the NRA's accurate assesment of his record doesn't count and that he is a "hunter"

We aren't concerned with the elites right to shoot birds with shotguns anyway.... heck the royalty can still do that in england.

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Jackal1 on October 22, 2004, 07:56:43 AM
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Originally posted by sling322
I heard about him going goose hunting while I was driving in to work yesterday.  I wondered how he was going to kill anything being a panty waste liberal who wants to take everyones guns away.  I thought....what is he gonna do, throw rocks at them?


  He`s known for going on wild goose chases, so this sort of fits this bill.
  He just can`t seem to grasp that the majority of the people will not fall for the old bait and switch or smoke and mirrors routine.
  He really didn`t need to spend any of the Ketchup Queen`s money on new camos. As it is he is blending in and being overlooked in the fall background quite nicely.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: ra on October 22, 2004, 08:05:58 AM
Did he crawl on his belly to stalk those geese?
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 22, 2004, 08:11:02 AM
He shoulda come to NJ and he coulda saved himself a few bucks he wasted on that Camo jacket he bought just for the occasion Simply because he wouldnt need one. (Do you really need to wear Camo for goosehunting anyway?)

We're positivly infested with the damn things to the point where they are starting to be considered a health hazard.

We have parks here where you cant let your kids play on the grass because its covered in Goose dung and the things have no fear of you either.
They cross the road and expect you to stop for THEM.

Camo? LOL you dont even need a gun
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: TheDudeDVant on October 22, 2004, 08:56:48 AM
You guys are weak!
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: midnight Target on October 22, 2004, 09:12:59 AM
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John Kerry - Let me be clear. I support the Second Amendment.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 09:14:04 AM
dude.... are you saying that you weren't embarassed by kerries obvious and distasteful pandering?   Never figured you for dishonest.... wrong mostly of course but... dishonest?

this is like Bush going on MTV and singing in a rap group.

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: rpm on October 22, 2004, 09:30:03 AM
Sorry MT, the Bandwagon has already loaded up. Kerry bought a NEW hunting jacket! Don't you see?!? A new jacket! What more concrete evidence do you need that he will take away my guns? It's a good thing he did'nt try and burn the constitution when he bought a new pair of sox.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Rude on October 22, 2004, 09:33:30 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target


John Kerry....Let me be clear....I'll be everything to everybody if it will land my rear in the White House!!!

:)
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: JBA on October 22, 2004, 09:37:36 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
John Kerry - Let me be clear. I support the Second Amendment.

for now or untill I change my mind, or I speak in front of a group against guns, or I think I can get votes in swing states, or I think I want to support guns for now and vote against it later or vote for it now then agianst them, O hell I guess I support them but I'll cheek with Teraza maybe she is invested in a  gun company then I'm for guns........:rolleyes:
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: indy007 on October 22, 2004, 09:50:38 AM
My first thought seeing it on the news was the scene from Distinguished Gentleman. Dozens of ducks fly over, they empty assault rifles into the air, one hits the ground & doesn't look hit... "I think it had a heart attack."
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Krusher on October 22, 2004, 09:55:22 AM
How do you ask a goose to be the last goose killed for a photo op?
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: ra on October 22, 2004, 09:59:04 AM
The 2nd Amendment according to Skerry:

"In order to protect the right of the people to hunt fowl, the ownership of 20 guage single shot shotguns shall hardly ever be abridged."
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Creamo on October 22, 2004, 10:08:56 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Sorry MT, the Bandwagon has already loaded up. Kerry bought a NEW hunting jacket! Don't you see?!? A new jacket! What more concrete evidence do you need that he will take away my guns? It's a good thing he did'nt try and burn the constitution when he bought a new pair of sox.


Well to be fair, you'd have to admit it wouldn't be to replace his old worn out hunting gear. I'm sure he's for hunting, but the timing, come on. Kinda like the Seahawk fans I saw at the bar last weekend that were wearing jerseys with the tags still on them, and hats so new they looked starched.  Some old die hard Raider fans in faded black jerseys just drank their beer and didn't say anything, but I bet they were rolling their eyes like I was. Same thing here.

I can't believe how much effort people put into discounting the obvious.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: midnight Target on October 22, 2004, 10:12:36 AM
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I believe law-abiding citizens ought to be able to own a gun. I believe in background checks. The best way to protect our citizens from guns is to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: rpm on October 22, 2004, 10:19:19 AM
Creamo, it was a planned photo op. I have no problem with that. All candidates do them. The fact that he does'nt carry his hunting clothes with him on the campaign trail does'nt bother me either. How much crap is he suppossed to lug around? "He bought a new jacket!" is pretty lame in the attack dept.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Rude on October 22, 2004, 10:20:52 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target


Uncanny how that guy says things just right:)

John Kerry has a 20-year record on voting against sportsmen's rights. He has voted against gun owners in every vote of his career as a Senator. He missed many votes in the last term (missing 32 of 67 important Senate votes), but made a special effort to break from the campaign trail in July, so he could be in Washington D.C. to cast his vote against sworn Peace Officers and the law that rightfully allows them to carry concealed weapons (HR 218).

Kerry has voted to close hundreds of thousands of acres to hunters, he has voted twice (1993 and 1996) to eliminate the Civilian Marksmanship Program, voted to ban sporting arms and ammunition as well as supporting higher taxes on firearms and ammunition. He supports the lawsuits against gun makers for the bad acts of criminals and supported or co-sponsored every piece of anti-gun legislation that has been declared unconstitutional in the past 20 years.

John Kerry has long been regarded as one of the most liberal Senators and has publicly stated “…there is no personal constitutional right, under the Second Amendment, to own or use a gun.” His stated goal is to tax and eventually outlaw the private ownership of firearms.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: midnight Target on October 22, 2004, 10:24:33 AM
amazing how the quote in that article is actually by someone else... kinda makes you wonder about the source... doesn't it?

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Under Clinton, the Office of the Solicitor General, the federal government's top lawyer, wrote in a letter to an NRA member, "there is no personal constitutional right, under the Second Amendment, to own or use a gun."
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Halo on October 22, 2004, 10:44:03 AM
Wild goose chase ... good one, Jackal1.  Kerry should help clean up the wild geese in the DC area.  So many and so tame these  pampered fowl need Pampering to reduce their foul slime.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Creamo on October 22, 2004, 10:45:02 AM
Gee rpm, maybe his Boeing 757 "Freedom Bird's" cargo hold is stacked so full of detailed documents on how he is going to make all his promises come true, there is no room for a old camo jacket. Ok.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: capt. apathy on October 22, 2004, 11:08:30 AM
how is this any different than the photo op Bush did about 2-3 years ago where he goes into a warehouse and talks to the employees about what he's doing for American labor (no, no, not what he's really doing to American labor.  what he wants the rubes to think he's doing for labor), meanwhile he had all those boxes stacked up behind him with the duct tape stripe on every box.  funny thing was that the tape was on the same spot on every box except that one that said 'made in China'  in that spot.

it doesn't seem to matter what the guy does you've already made your minds up.  hell, he can't even go hunting without some seeing it as staged.  guess what, it's hunting season in most of the country.  if he actually is a hunter, now would be a logical time to do it.   for most areas and most game fall is the season for hunting.

but then I'm sure you can find a dozen or so people who never seen him hunt before so maybe I'm wrong and he just did it for show.

as far as what the NRA says-  they have some good programs and I agree that the second amendment needs to be protected.  however, if you've been a member for long you might have noticed that they are in the pocket of the republican party.  almost a division of the party.  both groups take care of each other (though the NRA takes way better care of the republican party than the party takes care of the NRA's concerns), it should seem kinda obvious that they would have negative things to say about Kerry.  

I'm surprised I haven't heard the 'breaking news' bulletins-
  this just in, the NRA backs the Republican candidate in this Presidential election.  we were taken completely by surprise.  nobody saw this coming.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Creamo on October 22, 2004, 11:26:34 AM
hell, he can't even go hunting without some seeing it as staged. guess what, it's hunting season in most of the country. if he actually is a hunter, now would be a logical time to do it. for most areas and most game fall is the season for hunting.

Seems logical. It is hunting season after all.

Lol, now go hit yourself in the head with a tack hammer. Twice.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 11:35:39 AM
MT... kerrie supports the second amendment as heunderstands it to mean in this country... that was the real quote of what he said and the following is what he thinks the second amendment means in this country....

kerrie co sponsored a bill that woulld ban all semi automatic shotguns and detachable magazine semi auto rifles.

kerrie said "I think you ought to tax all ammunition, personally, I think you ought to tax guns.

kerrie has voted 9 times in favor of banning semi auto guns.

kerrie has voted to close off hundreds of thousands of acres of federal land to hunters (Bush has opened hundreds of thousands of acres to hunters)

kerrie has voted for a ted kennedy (the drunken murderer guy) amendment to ban  most center fire ammo including the most common rounds used by hunters and target shooters.

kerrie has voted to hold the highly regulated firearms industry legally responsible for the illegal activiies of criminals (thereby killing the entire industry)

kerrie has voted to allow the BATF to conduct warrentless inspections of FFL holders

kerrie has voted to criminalize legal sales between private individuals at gun shows

kerrie has voted to impose penalties of a year in prison and a $10,000 fine on an adult if a juvinile steals aa gun from him and then merely displays it in a public place.

kerrie has voted to force many small firearms dealers out of bussines (bill # 227 in 1993)

kerrie voted twice to eliminate the civilian marksmanship program!  (CMP)

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Toad on October 22, 2004, 11:43:10 AM
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Originally posted by Krusher
How do you ask a goose to be the last goose killed for a photo op?


Without a doubt, the funniest line in this thread.

As for Kerry supporting gun rights........ sorry; he has that pesky old 20 year record of opposing gun rights as a Senator.  So, if you're that easily duped I'm sorry for you.

As for him actually being a hunter, pish and tosh.

Anyone who actually shoots shotguns and saw that clip of him bringing his trusty "double barreled deer shotgun" (the one he crawls around on his belly with to hunt deer?) up and trying to mount it and swing it on a bird can tell in a nanosecond that he has only a distant and passing relationship with his "favorite" gun.

In short, he's no hunter. He's a politician trying to pose as a hunter. And not doing a very good job of that.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 11:47:58 AM
let me also say that I have no doubt that kerrie supports the right of American royalty to hunt on the kings land with gun bearers and shotguns and the press.

That has never been in doubt.

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: TweetyBird on October 22, 2004, 11:58:56 AM
Yea we get  it - Kerry is the antiChrist.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: JBA on October 22, 2004, 12:01:12 PM
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/407_1098464325_kerryhunting.jpg)
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 12:03:40 PM
naa... i don't think he is the antichrist... he isn't that slick.  I would probly have to respect the anti christ.

all I am saying is that he is no friend of the second amendment.    It should be obvious to anyone.

I find him to be pretending to be so as the real low point of the race so far.

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Creamo on October 22, 2004, 12:08:40 PM
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Yea we get  it - Kerry is the antiChrist.


I’m sure the real Satan wouldn't claim a purple heart for every “6” tattoo'd on his head, just to get outta 'Nam.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: AKIron on October 22, 2004, 12:48:37 PM
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Yea we get  it - Kerry is the antiChrist.



No way! That's Bill Clinton.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Krusher on October 22, 2004, 01:04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Toad

Without a doubt, the funniest line in this thread.

 


it should have read,

How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a photo op?


to be closer to the Kerry quote :)
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: TheDudeDVant on October 22, 2004, 01:21:29 PM
omg JBA you punk! lmao... I laughed so hard reading the goose crying 'medic!!!'....


lmao!!

edit: Pheasant actually..
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Habu on October 22, 2004, 01:22:28 PM
I much prefer GWB's photo ops.

The ones where he makes an aircraft carrier go out of its way and then wait offshore (cost per day about 5 million dollars) so he can fly out to it in a jet (cost per hour about 5,000) and land on it wearing a parachute (brand new and pulled so tight he looked like he was having a hernia) all for some nice pictures for next days news.

Damn John Kerry and his new coat to hell. I know the goose he shot was fake as well. I heard it was actually a chicken painted to look like a goose.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: ra on October 22, 2004, 01:24:42 PM
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Damn John Kerry and his new coat to hell. I know the goose he shot was fake as well. I heard it was actually a chicken painted to look like a goose.

The phoney part about Captain Cambodia is that he pretends to be pro 2nd amendment.  The coat is just symbolic of that phoniness.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Toad on October 22, 2004, 01:41:53 PM
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Originally posted by Habu
llars)  a parachute (brand new and pulled so tight he looked like he was having a hernia)


Ya ever been instructed on how to wear a chute when you're going flying in an aircraft equipped with an ejection seat?

Didn't think so.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 02:31:23 PM
habu... my guess is that Bush knows more about wearing a chute than you do.

Again... the phony part of the whole thing is that kerrie only believes that it is ok for American royalty to hunt birds with shotguns on the kings land (he voted to close 100's of thousands of acres to hunting for the peasants)   It is poaching the kings land for us peasants to hunt on our own federal land according to kerrie...

kerrie believes that federal land is for the government to own and the constitution is for him to interpret for us.

he is no friend to gun owners.   His record is vile.   Probly one of the bottom 2% for gun owners and second amendment rights...

That is what is so bad about the whole thing...

It would be the same as if Bush got on MTV wearing brand new jewlery weighing about 50 lbs and started singing rap songs.

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: TheDudeDVant on October 22, 2004, 02:33:51 PM
Twist it anyway but you guys are all hypocrits for taking Kerry's photo op this far and then turn around and say some **** like that to Habu.. !amazed

And all because you fools have convinced yourselfs of the fear of losing your guns.. Like america would give them up to begin with.. Plain delusional world.. It wont happen without a major fight/revolution in this country...
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Habu on October 22, 2004, 02:50:07 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
Ya ever been instructed on how to wear a chute when you're going flying in an aircraft equipped with an ejection seat?

Didn't think so.


I have jumped. I also know to loosen my straps once you land. Only a total newbie idiot keeps his straps tight.

:lol

But I am sure you knew that already Toad. You seem so informed on this matter.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Jackal1 on October 22, 2004, 03:01:10 PM
Hush Habu before we turn you into the Lilac Police. :D
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Toad on October 22, 2004, 03:35:22 PM
I am.

In ejection seat aircraft anyway. I don't know how tight you pull the straps for a sport chute/sport jump.

But T-38 type aircraft, we pulled the leg straps so tight that you walked hunched over a significant amount. Usually snugged them down right before going up the ladder and loosened them after descending from the aircraft, post-flight.

Now, I suppose a Prez meeting a crowd may not have got them exactly the correct amount of loose to satisfy a crotch-gazer like you appear to be, but as I recall the moment, he did have it loose enough to walk upright in a pretty normal fashion.

That's about as loose as most of us wore them right after getting out of the aircraft. One quick pull on the crotch buckles as you arched your back slightly would get you upright so you could do the post-flight walkaround and fill out the forms. We usually took off the chute once the next crew had the aircraft.

YMMV.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 22, 2004, 03:38:14 PM
dude... I don't think anyone will turn their guns in.... they just don't want to be criminals for not doing so.

The bills that kerrie voted for and that I pointed out are real... he would ban every semi automatic made and most hunting rifle rounds while closing allmost all federal land to the peasants.

This is not fantasy...  this is the way the man has voted for 20 years.... now, like everything else he expects us to forget his record and believe that since the race started he is completely different than he has been up until that day.

unbelieveable.

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: midnight Target on October 22, 2004, 04:20:28 PM
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he voted to close 100's of thousands of acres to hunting for the peasants


This is NRA speak for adding to the national forest.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Eagler on October 22, 2004, 04:38:51 PM
(http://www.beaniemotion.com/HonksAnima.gif)
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: ravells on October 22, 2004, 04:46:10 PM
Fair's fair!

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/258_1098481410_bush.jpg)
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Blooz on October 22, 2004, 04:52:06 PM
His anti gun and animal rights friends must be really peeved.

They are laying low though. They know they need to stay quiet for now or they'll rock his boat.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 22, 2004, 04:56:53 PM
I dont care aboutthe photo op personally.
As someone else said Each side does them.

what I wanna know is do you really need a Camo outfit to go goose hunting?

I was dead serious about what I said about the Geese infestation  in NJ.

wouldnt even need a gun or camo to kill em here.
Armed with nothing more then a long stick you could kill em by the scores
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: TweetyBird on October 22, 2004, 06:53:03 PM
Yep, we'll have youre guns in 2 weeks Laz. The Black Van should be pulling up now...
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Toad on October 22, 2004, 07:45:42 PM
Dred,

If you're hunting wild geese, yeah, camo is pretty much standard.

A wild goose is not your "I live in a city park lake in NJ" type dumaxe goose.

Decoying wild geese into gun range after the season opens and they've been shot at some is pretty demanding sport on many levels. Camo is one of those levels.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 22, 2004, 08:11:14 PM
Ahh ok thank you.

Just seemed weird to me because those geese looked an awful lot like the canada geese we're inundated with here.

Oh and we dont just have em in park ponds or parks for that matter.
they are getting to the point where you see them almost everywhere

Im serious. we are literally becomming infested with them.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Halo on October 22, 2004, 09:48:49 PM
Very true ... the mid Atlantic coast has problems with kudzu, snakehead fish, and ... geese.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Toad on October 22, 2004, 09:48:53 PM
Yeah, I know. My brother lives in a DC suburb with lots of ponds and the place is littered with goose shirt and geese that think they own the place...cuz they do.

The local government protects them and they are bold as brass.

All the little Chihuahua's and Shi-Tzu's are afraid of them and they chase the little mop dogs.

Had my lab there one time and educated a few geese. Of course, my brother told me I'd be arrested if anyone saw me unleash my lab and say "fetch 'em up". So, I had to stop.

After that though, they didn't get uppity and hiss and demonstrate when we went for a walk. They gave us a pretty wide birth. They learn pretty quick. ;)
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: Halo on October 22, 2004, 09:50:49 PM
Very true ... the mid Atlantic coast has excessive kudzu, snakehead fish, deer, traffic, and ... geese.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: LePaul on October 23, 2004, 01:30:41 AM
Heard this on Jay Leno  :p

Bad news for Kerry:

The bird he shot....was a lesbian  :rofl
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 23, 2004, 01:48:59 AM
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Originally posted by Toad
Yeah, I know. My brother lives in a DC suburb with lots of ponds and the place is littered with goose shirt and geese that think they own the place...cuz they do.



Cant shoot em here either. They are protected and I thinkit has something to do with federal funding that they loose if they allow a hunt.

Tell ya what I dont do. When driving while I dont go out of my way to run em down. I dont stop for em either.

well maybe I speed up..a little
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 23, 2004, 10:20:18 AM
tweety... if kerrie helps to outlaw semi autos and most centerfire rifle rounds then a lot of my (and his) guns will become illegal...

I do not expect any black vans to come to my house but If I don't turn in those now illegal like a good litltle subject of the king then I will be an outlaw.    

now... since a lot of them are regestered, as I was forced to do and.... told that I was being paranoid thinking that someday those records would be used to take away my firearms....  since there are records of me owning these then illegal arms... I would expect at least to have to fill out some sort of form as to where they were now and why I hadn't turned them in wouldn't you?

now... what part of the above is too difficult for your soundbite mentality to grasp?   Just tell me and I will explain that part again in detail.

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: TweetyBird on October 23, 2004, 11:48:35 AM
I think I grasp it, if fact I think I heard Pat Robertson alluding to it after he turned hurricane Ivan...

"Unholy union"... hmm someone is spending a lot of time looking at the "700 club."
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: medicboy on October 23, 2004, 08:39:38 PM
Hey MT, were johnnny's lips moving when he said he supports the second amendment???  If they were he was lying, thats how you can tell.  He might support putting the second amendment in a trash can, that is about all.
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 24, 2004, 10:27:22 AM
tweety... what are you talking about?   Is there something you know about kerries voting record that I don't?  What did I say that you find too difficult to grasp or that you find inaccurate?

If you are watching too much "700 club" then I suggest you stop but what does that have to do with anything I have wrote about kerrie and gun rights?

You don't know anything about guns or kerries voting record yet you pretend to know what is going on?   The NRA gives kerrie an "F" grade for second amendment rights (the NRA is an organization with 4 million members that you know nothing about and publishes a magazine or two that you also know nothing about)

it seems odd to me that you would jump into a subject like firearms and kerries voting record when you appear to have no knowledge at all about either.

lazs
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: midnight Target on October 24, 2004, 11:04:46 AM
I bet more guns were lost to private ownership during Bush 2 than any other administration. Mostly by people who lost their jobs selling them to lazs.




:cool:
Title: hunting a photo op
Post by: lazs2 on October 24, 2004, 11:08:17 AM
well... that would end under kerrie too since he has consistently voted against the right of one citizen selling a gun to another.

lazs