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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: TweetyBird on October 22, 2004, 07:19:40 PM
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Rumor has its something to do with Alan Greenspan
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Rumor has its something to do with Alan Greenspan
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My guess (kind of a long shot, but I'm not as creative as Rove et al) is that Bush goes into Iraq again. This weekend.
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er but... What's the rumor Tweety?
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Originally posted by Nash
My guess (kind of a long shot, but I'm not as creative as Rove et al) is that Bush goes into Iraq again. This weekend.
Wanna become even more confused?
Do a Google search on "October Surprise"
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Look at the ads on these two sites. Talk about playing both sides of the field:)
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/008349.html
http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2004/10/everyones_new_y.php
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i just heard a rumor about a rumor about something thats going to happen. sorry , i can't say anymore about it.
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Osama was captured months ago. Bush will release photos & videotape within 2 weeks.
Big deal. It was expected.
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there is a new trend and that is the november surprise... the personal injury ambulance chasers and aclu crowd has for years been sick of being on the sidelines in deciding the fate of America...
this year they have come out of the closet and solidified their unholy union with the democrats and are openly plotting to overthrow the elections by any means possible.
lazs
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Aside from President Bush, it sounds as if Pat Robertson is advising you as well.
Hmmm, maybe Iraq is jihad? Are the Christian right rushing to armageddon? It starts getting creepy when religion gets brought into foreign policy.
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Originally posted by lazs2
there is a new trend and that is the november surprise... the personal injury ambulance chasers and aclu crowd has for years been sick of being on the sidelines in deciding the fate of America...
this year they have come out of the closet and solidified their unholy union with the democrats and are openly plotting to overthrow the elections by any means possible.
lazs
Yeah, that's why Bush had lawyers waiting to go to challenge the result in 2000 if Gore had won the EC and Bush had won the popular vote.
Grow up Lazs.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Aside from President Bush, it sounds as if Pat Robertson is advising you as well.
Hmmm, maybe Iraq is jihad? Are the Christian right rushing to armageddon? It starts getting creepy when religion gets brought into foreign policy.
Barry McGuire
Eve of Destruction
The Eastern World
It is explodin'
Violence flarin'
Bullets loadin'
You're old enough to kill
But not for votin'
You don't believe in war
But what's that gun you're totin'
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin'
But you tell me over, and over, and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction
Don't you understand what I'm tryin' to say
And can't you feel the fears I'm feelin' today
If the button is pushed, there's no runnin' away
There'll be no one to save
With the whole world in a grave
Take a look around you boy,
It's bound to scare you boy
And you tell me over, and over, and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction
Yeah, my blood's so mad
Feels like coagulatin'
I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin'
I can't twist the truth
It knows no regulation
Handful of senators don't pass legislation
And marches alone can't bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin'
This whole crazy world
Is just too frustratin'
And you tell me over, and over, and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction
And think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
Ah you may leave here for four days in space
But when you return it's the same old place
The poundin' of the drums
The pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace
Hate your next door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace
But you tell me over, and over, and over, and over again my friend
You don't believe we're on the eve of destruction
No, no, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Aside from President Bush, it sounds as if Pat Robertson is advising you as well.
Hmmm, maybe Iraq is jihad? Are the Christian right rushing to armageddon? It starts getting creepy when religion gets brought into foreign policy.
tweety without wanting to sould like a zelot or a bible thumper I've been saying this for a while
Throw in the whole "new world order" of clintonism
The vast shift seen in the public as being anti religion/christianity
The involvment of israel in the region
The talk of the UN being the ultimate global body.
The shift to one European currency.
Alot of this stuff was predicted thousands of years ago.....the more you read into it the creapier it gets
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Being against religious rule, is not anti-Christian or anti religion.
The dirty little secret is America's Taliban wannabe's (Pat Robertson, Gary Bauer, Jerry Falwell etc) are the people behind Bush. Without question they seek to ammend the definition of separation of church and state. This from people who call Hinduism "devil worship."
Don't take my word for it, research these people and others in the religious right. They have an agenda, and where it might not be a tyrantical as the Taliban, its just as creepy.
I don't know how many of you remember the "moral majority" of the 80's, but they did not go away. They recoiled into the shadows, and they are propping up our newly "saved" President Bush. Again, this is nothing to do with personal religious transformations, but trying to work religious doctrine into goverment policy.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
....The dirty little secret is America's Taliban wannabe's (Pat Robertson, Gary Bauer, Jerry Falwell etc) are the people behind Bush. ....
RRIIIiiigggghhhhttttt!!!! -- LOL LOL LOL
that is one of your more retarded quotes, both parts,...but keep going, I'm sure you can top it LOL
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Being against religious rule, is not anti-Christian or anti religion.
The dirty little secret is America's Taliban wannabe's (Pat Robertson, Gary Bauer, Jerry Falwell etc) are the people behind Bush. Without question they seek to ammend the definition of separation of church and state. This from people who call Hinduism "devil worship."
Don't take my word for it, research these people and others in the religious right. They have an agenda, and where it might not be a tyrantical as the Taliban, its just as creepy.
I don't know how many of you remember the "moral majority" of the 80's, but they did not go away. They recoiled into the shadows, and they are propping up our newly "saved" President Bush. Again, this is nothing to do with personal religious transformations, but trying to work religious doctrine into goverment policy.
You have completly missed the ENTIRE point of my post. You said it was creepy the christian right rushing to armagedon....by that I thaught you were referring to the end of the world. Then I broght up other things referring to Armagedon that are creepy to me as well.
As far as the "american taliban" I can understand somone wanting to keep religious influences out of govt, but those who don't/refuse to see the specific onslot against christians by the likes of the ACLU and such you are just blind or dumb.
I know we talked about this in a previous thread but I think you are wrong then and wrong now. Nothing justifies going after and/or discriminating against a specific group because of history. You can try and justify it all you want but it will never make it right.
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>>that is one of your more retarded quotes, both parts,...but keep going, I'm sure you can top it LOL<<
Is there ONE thing the Religious right DOESN"T label?
You're either a communist, a liberal, a socialist a Nazi, a studmuffin, a Jew a retard or something - no one is an individual. It must be quite neat to put everything into nice little ziplock containers. Nice but stupid.
After all your grand leaders were busted for sleeping with prostitutes and embezzling in the 80's, you'd think you'd develope some healthy objectivity.
Spiritualism is an individual ralationship with God or your purpose in this world/universe. The second its used for power or oppression its corrupted into another perversion of man. And God knows, man has a LONG history of religious perversion.
I'm a heck of lot more concerned that the President is being advised by someone who considers Hinduism "devil worship" than I am about Edwards little gay slap on Cheney.
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>>You have completly missed the ENTIRE point of my post. You said it was creepy the christian right rushing to armagedon....by that I thaught you were referring to the end of the world. Then I broght up other things referring to Armagedon that are creepy to me as well.
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You know, I tend to recoil from people who believe they can forecast the end of the world or turn hurricanes. But I never turn my back on them - no not ever...just slowly back away from them.
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>>As far as the "american taliban" I can understand somone wanting to keep religious influences out of govt, but those who don't/refuse to see the specific onslot against christians by the likes of the ACLU and such you are just blind or dumb.
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Christianity is laden with martyrs, people who suffered and died in silence under tyrantical rule with only their faith. And you're telling me the ACLU is toppling Chrisitanity???
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Don't take my word for it, research these people and others in the religious right. They have an agenda, and where it might not be a tyrantical as the Taliban, its just as creepy.
I saw a News (Dateline/Nightline?) program where a spokeswoman for Pat Robertson, basically confirmed the agenda you mentioned.
It is freaky.
When you research it on the net, you come to a lot of sorces you cant trust. But the jist of it is, these people want a war in the Middle East, especially involving Israel. They basically want the End of the world to be played out as it is in the bible.
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Originally posted by Nefarious
I saw a News (Dateline/Nightline?) program where a spokeswoman for Pat Robertson, basically confirmed the agenda you mentioned.
It is freaky.
When you research it on the net, you come to a lot of sorces you cant trust. But the jist of it is, these people want a war in the Middle East, especially involving Israel. They basically want the End of the world to be played out as it is in the bible.
Yep Pat is behind Bush - LOL
2000 election
Pat Robertson: Bush has 'blown a major lead' (http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/01/robertson.campaign/)
this election
No casualties? White House disputes Robertson comment (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/19/robertson.bush.iraq/)
and to compare Christian leaders in America to the backwards arse taliban IS RETARD .. just shows your hatred of the religion, while lumping it and our POTUS together displays your hatred for Bush also
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
You know, I tend to recoil from people who believe they can forecast the end of the world or turn hurricanes. But I never turn my back on them - no not ever...just slowly back away from them.
Like I said in my post I tend not to make a huge deal out of it but you cannot help but notice events that take place that seem like a precurser to what's predicted in revelations.
Christianity is laden with martyrs, people who suffered and died in silence under tyrantical rule with only their faith. And you're telling me the ACLU is toppling Chrisitanity???
If you look at the ACLUs track record they have a greater history of going specifically christians than anyone else. There ferver becomes contagious when you get people that say an office secretary in a govt. building cannot have a christmas card from a friend on her desk cause it happens to have a cross on it. even though it is amongst HER personal items not representing a govt endorsment.
There are scores of storys just like these of people going after christianity. Some consider my religion evil and vile because of the attempts and hipocrasies committed by some of the people you mentioned previously.
There is an effort underway as we speak to root out all aspects of christ in our society.
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>>There are scores of storys just like these of people going after christianity. Some consider my religion evil and vile because of the attempts and hipocrasies committed by some of the people you mentioned previously.
There is an effort underway as we speak to root out all aspects of christ in our society.<<
If you are of the mindset that you are only seeking to preserve the right to practice your faith, then I apologize if it looks like I'm attacking. Personally I believe deeply in the power of prayer and faith - but that has not a thing to do with politics. Personaly I believe a person should forgive a brother 7 times 7 times 7 times 7 etc., but I don't believe that should be a goverment LAW. I believe spirituality to be a personal journey and believe MOST who suggest they are acting in the interest of man's salvation are truly acting in the interest of a common human vice - POWER.
Its a simple principle that no person on earth can make me choose God, no person on earth can put in a good word for me. The goverment should not even be in the equation, as is shown through miraculous events in all types of hideous circumstances.
Goverments do not hinder God's work, nor do they enhance it, and when people start claiming it does or claiming they're "helping God", so begins religious perversion.
I am really freaked out that George Bush was soliciting advice from Pat Robertson before the invasion of Iraq. In my mind, Pat Robertson has perverted Christianity. Thats my opinion for the reasons stated above.
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well we find ourselves in agreement that absolute power coruptes ect. ect. and that religion is just as suseptable.
I just think that the likes of the ACLU and company are picking the wrong battles.
Mandated school prayer....no no. Voluntary...doesnt hurt anyone.
ten commandments at a courthouse. To me not a big deal. I would pass it off as a representation of history of were our laws came from. Others might not see it but to launch a crusade against it to me is a waist of recources
when I see the ACLU going after the LA county flag because it has a cross it in and that cross represents the history (IE the area was founded by spanish missions) it pisses me off. There's alot of people that are against changing the seal not only because it is dear to them but also it is a waist of money. They will have to spend literally millions of dollars just because the ACLU has a problem with it. Either way they'd spend millions of dollars fighting the ACLU in court. It's extortion by lawyers if you ask me and a waist of recources.
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Originally posted by Eagler
Yep Pat is behind Bush - LOL
and to compare Christian leaders in America to the backwards arse taliban IS RETARD .. just shows your hatred of the religion, while lumping it and our POTUS together displays your hatred for Bush also
Never did I even mention President Bush, or the relationship of our Christian Right and our President. I never even mentioned the Taliban, Tweety and you have, but I didnt.
I was talking about a news show I saw on TV.
Heres Robertson in his own words, if your words were directed at me.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/484861.html
Originally said by Pat Robertson
"I see the rise of Islam to destroy Israel and take the land from the Jews and give East Jerusalem to [Palestinian Authority Chairman] Yasser Arafat. I see that as Satan's plan to prevent the return of Jesus Christ the Lord"
"you will not frustrate God's plan" to have Jews rule the Holy Land until the Second Coming of Jesus.
Like I said above, It's pretty freaky. I guess it all depends on what you beleive. Sorry to get huffy Martlet, but I'm not sure who you were adressing, when you quoted me.
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I'm not quoting you or singling out your post, Pat Robertson has a history of freaky quotes. I don't even care if George Bush didn't expect casualties. I care a whole lot that he was consulting a nut.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
I'm not quoting you or singling out your post, Pat Robertson has a history of freaky quotes. I don't even care if George Bush didn't expect casualties. I care a whole lot that he was consulting a nut.
lol :D