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Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Comet on October 24, 2004, 03:07:00 PM
This is for all you Rooks out there that seem to think that the best thing for you to do is fur ball, Vaulch and look out for you own best interests or scores. Well that is you choice. Seeing you managed to pay for a computer and all and somehow managed to download this game. However, I do believe that this is a combat simulation game that requires a tad bit of thinking, planning and strategy. Not to mention some flying skills. I have found in order to become successful in this game one must take bases from the opposing countries. Unfortunately there are a lot of mindless buffoons out there and you know who you are, that just don’t get it. If you haven’t been keeping up with current events, allow me to update you. We, The Rooks, Have been getting our collective hinnies kicked by the other two countries. It hasn’t been a close whipping. Oh no, this has been an all out, in your face, pointing and laughing “Rooks suck”, blood bath.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Comet on October 24, 2004, 03:07:40 PM
Last night was pathetic we lost 13 bases in 1 hour. Thirteen! Think about that. How is it possible to lose that many bases in that short amount of time unless we don’t want to win the war? Well maybe some of you reading this think that winning the war is not the biggest part of the game. If your one of them please log off and go play in traffic or something because you don’t understand the concept of a war game like Aces High. Perhaps a game more along the line of “Shoots and Ladders” would be of more interest to you. For the rest of us not interested in “Shoots and Ladders” or playing in traffic, lets look at this from a more positive view point shall we?
Lets take into consideration, if we take out the strategic points of a base and possibly the surrounding bases, then took out fighter hangers and the vehicles hangers, then we could worried about who or what might try to launch so you can get your easy vaulch kills. Then maybe we might be able to get a goon in to capture the city and we could move onto the next base. If we did this enough times you know what? I do believe that we as a country might win a war or two.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Comet on October 24, 2004, 03:08:28 PM
Oh yea just a heads up. Letting someone know that there is an enemy behind them is not considered rude or bad protocol. In fact it’s looked on as a sign of concern for your fellow countryman. In my squad and the few that I have flown with I do believe it’s called a “CHECK 6”. People say this to warn of the pending confrontation between you and the Bad guys. Chances are you have your mind fixated on something else rather than paying attention to what is going on around you. In this case your rear.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Comet on October 24, 2004, 03:11:35 PM
Since I’m on a roll I might as well bring this up. I noticed that early in the day we were in 2nd place with lets say 25 bases. The Knights had 35 bases and the Bishops have 14. At a close look of the whole map I noticed that the main bulk of the Rooks were working on Bishops and were letting the Knights take more and more bases. Is it just me or is this just plain absurd? What is it with line of thinking? Do you really think that you guys can beat down the Knights before the Bishops take over the rest of the map? Think about it people. The Bishops are beating us like a red-headed step child. However we are so engrossed in our little battle that no one has taken the time to look around the map and see we are losing more bases then we are getting.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Flyboy on October 24, 2004, 03:11:53 PM
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Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Comet on October 24, 2004, 03:12:10 PM
A little commutation within the country would seem appropriate. For god’s sake use you head for something. If you can’t see what I'm saying is true why you don’t go over to one of the other countries and do you stupid crap there. At least you would get the perk points of the winning country. That’s a plus for a lot of you since all you think about is yourself and your bloody score.
Now if you’re angry because I have said what is on my mind and you want me to say I’m sorry or something, I got news for you. It’s not going to happen. So don’t hold your breath. All I'm suggesting is fly smarter and talk to people. Let people know in the country what is going on. If you think you can help out great but look around and make sure it’s in the best interest of the war effort. Other wise what’s the point
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: nopoop on October 24, 2004, 03:32:28 PM
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Originally posted by Comet
If you think you can help out great but look around and make sure it’s in the best interest of the war effort. Other wise what’s the point


Obviously the point is to engage in some air to air combat with those of a like minded persuasion, set ones hair on fire and have a blast.

My war comprises of what I see out of my cockpit. My war is where my opponent does his best to blow me out of the sky. You might call it my little local war.

Oh..and I want that war to be quite intense. I want it to push the envelope.

Your war effort has nothing to due with that, and in many cases hinders me from what I strive to do in my short timeframe.

That answer your question ??
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: JB66 on October 24, 2004, 03:54:20 PM
Well, we can see who logged early.  Rooks held the knits off of the mainland, and pushed them back in the center of the map.
Bishes never made much headway on us either.  
FlyingDutchman made a brilliant LVT sneek at 159, me and one other gunner dropped the town before the battlegroup was lost.

And 165 was contested most of the night by a nearby Knit base, and two knit cv's, which were eventually destroyed.  The Rooks held it and started pushing north.

I don't remember which base it was, but a knit swarm almost had it, goons were close, and the field for the most part was capped. And the rooks rallied and saved it.  People were upping, not worrying about getting vulched, but to get numbers in the air to save the base.

Last night was some of the most fun I've had in this game in awhile.  The Rooks were flying and working like the Rooks of old
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: streetstang on October 24, 2004, 03:57:39 PM
Ummmm yea.

What Nopoop said.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: GScholz on October 24, 2004, 03:57:47 PM
JB's are Rooks again?
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Roscoroo on October 24, 2004, 03:58:19 PM
I spy anouther arm-chair general ...

instead of trying to control all of Rookland , how about you getting a squad together and make your own push to conquer the Bishnits.

Btw Have you heard of the RJO ???
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on October 24, 2004, 04:02:21 PM
Wow!  Somebody really peed in his Cheerios.  I could feel the heat from those flames comin right off the monitor!  :D
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Gixer on October 24, 2004, 04:03:17 PM
Who cares about winning the war? I lost interest in that years ago before I eventually lost interesting in the MA all together. The hordes move from one vulch to another taking bases and the map gets reset to one we've all seen before 1000's times.

By the end all I was looking for was taking up a plane that wasn't very common to see let alone get in a fight with one well away from the hordes and give someone a change and hopefully a good fight or two. Never cared if I landed it or not. On occasion I'd do my best to defend something of actual importance like the HQ.

The whole war and strat thing dosn't really exist in any true or tactical sense since there are no "real" tactical or strategic targets.

The war is about as interesting as gaming the game for score. Rinse twice and repeat.



 ...-Gixer
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: DieAz on October 24, 2004, 04:20:55 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
JB's are Rooks again?


I don't think 66 ever left rooks.
might be wrong.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: JB66 on October 24, 2004, 04:21:10 PM
Hey GS.

Nope, just me. A couple of others stayed also, but changed their cpids.
I've got 1800 fighter perks, so I'm going to hang onto JB66.  Not that I'll ever use them.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Elfie on October 24, 2004, 04:32:10 PM
First off its called *vulching*, not *vaulching*. Second of all in most cases the FH's at a base dont NEED to be dropped in order to take it. Third, not everyone plays AH to *win the war*.

Let's talk about the second one for a moment. When you kill the FH's the furball crowd leaves to find another fight. If you want their help, leave the FH's up. Also unless you also drop the BH's peope will just take off in buff formations or an IL-2. Buff form's and IL-2's require TONS more ammo for fighters to take down. So any fighters that stay after you drop the FH's will run out of ammo alot faster and have to leave. Now any goons otw to drop troops have no fighter cover.

Ideally to take a base, you need jabo's for the VH and field acks, and buff forms or ALOT of jabo's to take down the town. The jabo's that deack the field can also double as cap for the field. Ideally you want to take the base as intact as possible so your offensive doesnt stall. (ie you want radar, ammo, troops and hangers up) Taking a base intact allows those who are damaged to replane at your *new* base and those that choose to can still use the rearm pads.

In all my years of playing flight sims, vulching has been generally regarded as necessary when it comes to taking bases.

You mention check 6 calls. YOUR 6 is YOUR responsibility, not everyone elses. If you get a check 6 call, it's gravy. With that said, I send check 6 calls every chance I get. I dont always see the enemy in time and sometimes there are so many friendlies around that it is hard to get the 6 call sent to the right person.

Aces High is about pvp combat (player vs player) using equipment from WWII. Whether it's dog fighting or base capture its still about the pvp combat, otherwise you might as well play a boxed sim offline against AI opponents. Not everyone enjoys the furballing, not everyone enjoys the base capture. Some people enjoy both aspects.

Each of us pays our 14.95 a month to play this game. When you start paying everyone else's subscription then you would have the right to tell others how to play. Until then might I suggest you find a squad full of like minded individuals and fly with them? That really is the best way to enjoy the game.

For you to come to the BBS angry and complaining that others dont play the same way you think they should is really pretty rediculous. Ask 50 different players *why* they play this game and you are very likely to get 50 different answers.

Nopoop....well said :)
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Stang on October 24, 2004, 04:42:14 PM
If the bish weren't throwing 25 dorks at undefended fields we wouldn't have lost nearly that many bases.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Furious on October 24, 2004, 04:59:38 PM
The war is a side show; the thrill is the combat.

If you have fun, you win no matter what and if you don't have fun, you always lose.




Good luck with all that angst, I guess.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Elfie on October 24, 2004, 05:02:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furious
The war is a side show; the thrill is the combat.

If you have fun, you win no matter what and if you don't have fun, you always lose.




Good luck with all that angst, I guess.



Excellent point Furious
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Sp4de on October 24, 2004, 05:49:42 PM
I usted to complain about vulching. You need to relieze this is war. If you arent on my country i will find anyway i can to kill you. I dont want you in the air to kill my friends or country mate's So if i see you. I will fire. even if you people call it a "ho". Your dead. Im alive. Now stop complaining. up from a base farther from this so called "horde" and kill us if you can.
Title: 13
Post by: SPIKER on October 24, 2004, 06:16:55 PM
Tuff number!
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Gixer on October 24, 2004, 06:31:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sp4de
I usted to complain about vulching. You need to relieze this is war. If you arent on my country i will find anyway i can to kill you. I dont want you in the air to kill my friends or country mate's So if i see you. I will fire. even if you people call it a "ho". Your dead. Im alive. Now stop complaining. up from a base farther from this so called "horde" and kill us if you can.



Errr, it's just a game.



...-Gixer
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: bj229r on October 24, 2004, 06:37:23 PM
if ya stay serious about the base capture thing when ya gettin the livin dogsh*t ganged out of ya, ya wont have an enjoyable time, as ya endlessly get kilt against overwhelming #...find a small piece of the big pie that is manageable, and stay with it (or go to DA)
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: SlapShot on October 24, 2004, 06:48:40 PM
Come on guys ... go easy on Comet ... you know ... he just wants to win the all expenses paid trip to Hedonism III in Jamaica when he ... "WINS THE WAR !!!"

Your all a bunch of dolts ... get with the program ... geeeeesh !!!
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Soulyss on October 24, 2004, 08:38:00 PM
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I have found in order to become successful in this game one must take bases from the opposing countries.


Funny I consider myself to have had success in this game and I can't remember the last time I took a base from another country.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Howitzer on October 24, 2004, 08:40:31 PM
Wow... well tell ya what, you can have your war.  I honestly don't need the perks.  I'll give fighter support, but I don't drop bombs anymore, and I can honestly say I've only flown a goon once in ah2.  The furball is my source of fun and thats probably where I'll be.  Really haven't seen many rooks care about the "Rooks Suck" comments, if you let it get to you, you are going to have a crappy time.  

Massive aerial combat is where its at for me, everyone has their own thing, just try to find something more that amuses you besides complaining on the BBS  :aok
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: OntosMk1 on October 24, 2004, 09:07:38 PM
HAhAHaHAHahAHAHAHAHahAHAhAHAH AHaHAHahAHahAHAHaHAhAHaHAHAhA HaH *GASP* HAhAHAHahAHahahahahAHAHAHAHAH aHAHahAHAHAHAHAHAH *Funny ain't it?* AHAhAHAHaHahAH....ah.ahahah.h aahah......ahah..........Phee www.
*whipes tears from eyes* Good gawd I havent laughted like that in ages.....weeeeeeeeeee tooo funny
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol :rofl :lol :D :aok
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Dead Man Flying on October 24, 2004, 10:33:32 PM
First time poster with an unknown name?  Check.

Laundry list of exaggerated and inflammatory criticisms?  Check.

Annoying posting style?  Check.

Hello, Troll.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Soulyss on October 25, 2004, 12:17:21 AM
yeah it's a troll... but one I"ll fall for every time.  :)
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: GScholz on October 25, 2004, 12:47:33 AM
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Originally posted by JB66
Hey GS.

Nope, just me. A couple of others stayed also, but changed their cpids.
I've got 1800 fighter perks, so I'm going to hang onto JB66.  Not that I'll ever use them.


cc

You left the JB's to keep your perks, or did you leave earlier?
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: JB66 on October 25, 2004, 12:50:37 AM
I left the JB's because they left the Rooks, and I don't want to change countries.  I'm keeping JB66 because I want to keep my perks.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: dragoon on October 25, 2004, 02:03:41 AM
wow comet, who pissed ya off man? names plz
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: GScholz on October 25, 2004, 02:15:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB66
I left the JB's because they left the Rooks, and I don't want to change countries.  I'm keeping JB66 because I want to keep my perks.


cc.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Charge on October 25, 2004, 03:41:00 AM
Isn't there a button "Change the country"?

That might help to self induced mental pain if your country is constantly "losing". :aok

-C+
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: DieAz on October 25, 2004, 06:50:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
First time poster with an unknown name?  Check.

Laundry list of exaggerated and inflammatory criticisms?  Check.

Annoying posting style?  Check.

Hello, Troll.

-- Todd/Leviathn


I have seen Comet gameid, in the game. I don't know who it is, or if this is the same one on here, though.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: EN4CER on October 25, 2004, 07:28:45 AM
Amazing how the balance of power shifts in the game with a few squads moving every now and then.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: FiLtH on October 25, 2004, 08:47:32 AM
Why base grabbing doesnt interest me:

1. No identity of bases in the form of a names. Just a number. It doesnt seem like much, but it is important.

2. Maps rotate starting positions. No feel of ownership to a certain area on the map.

3. Hangers etc die too easy, but come up too fast. Bases should require alot more bombs to destroy it (including town) , and regen slower than it does now.

4. Numbers rule the game. Period.

5. Mission planning comes second or worse to the standard base grab practice. Overwhelm,vulch till someone kills the FH, kill the VH, and then kill the town hoping someone has a goon. Over and over again.

    I prefer forming a mission and performing it well. If we helped the effort... great, if not, we were in good form regardless.
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Masherbrum on October 25, 2004, 10:07:30 AM
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Originally posted by Comet
Last night was pathetic we lost 13 bases in 1 hour. Thirteen! Think about that. How is it possible to lose that many bases in that short amount of time unless we don’t want to win the war? Well maybe some of you reading this think that winning the war is not the biggest part of the game. If your one of them please log off and go play in traffic or something because you don’t understand the concept of a war game like Aces High. Perhaps a game more along the line of “Shoots and Ladders” would be of more interest to you. For the rest of us not interested in “Shoots and Ladders” or playing in traffic, lets look at this from a more positive view point shall we?
Lets take into consideration, if we take out the strategic points of a base and possibly the surrounding bases, then took out fighter hangers and the vehicles hangers, then we could worried about who or what might try to launch so you can get your easy vaulch kills. Then maybe we might be able to get a goon in to capture the city and we could move onto the next base. If we did this enough times you know what? I do believe that we as a country might win a war or two.


Genius,  It's "Chutes and Ladders".   Please keep whining to this fellow Rook.  :aok

I find Desktop Generals to be funny.  Since you know so much, how about flying for me?

Karaya
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: DipStick on October 25, 2004, 10:12:45 AM
What Poop, Furious and Levi said....... and and........ BIG YAAAAAAAAAAAWN!
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Grimm on October 25, 2004, 12:21:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
I find Desktop Generals to be funny.  Since you know so much, how about flying for me?

Karaya



LMAO!!
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: DoKGonZo on October 25, 2004, 01:21:28 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
...

I find Desktop Generals to be funny.  ...


Awwww ... he's just ronery ... no one takes him seriousree.

(http://www.gonzoville.com/datas/users/1-TA_KJI_Angry.jpg)
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: Slash27 on October 25, 2004, 02:04:44 PM
Awwww ... he's just ronery ... no one takes him seriousree.

The Film Actors Guild may take him seriousree:D
Title: For All the Rooks out there
Post by: 2stony on October 25, 2004, 03:15:46 PM
You know Comet, the Bish and Nits used to complain that we kicked both of their arses regularly(and we pretty much did). Just like any other war, you can't be number one forever. They just got tired of it and finally banded together.

Get over it or join one of the other countries.

:lol