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Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Elfie on October 25, 2004, 02:32:51 PM
Anyone who has one of these knows that after just a couple hours of use the stick loses its smooth feel. I found a lubricant that rocks on the X45 stick. After 3 days of use with the new lubricant it is still smooth as silk.

http://www.certifiedlabs.com/certified/productView_byName.asp?cat_id=11&countryName=United+States&country=USA&language=English&language_id=4&product_cat=name&product_cat_desc=Products+By+Name&pName=T%2DLUBE+PLUS+AEROSOL


Thats a link for T-Lube Plus, its teflon based and works great on plastics. It's a spray based lube, but drys very quickly, doesnt attract dust and dirt either. :)
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Overlag on October 25, 2004, 02:33:57 PM
hmmmmm lube
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Dux on October 25, 2004, 02:40:52 PM
Is there an over-the-counter equivalent available somewhere? I had a bad experience with mail-order lubricants before.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Overlag on October 25, 2004, 03:01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Dux
Is there an over-the-counter equivalent available somewhere? I had a bad experience with mail-order lubricants before.



:lol
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Elfie on October 25, 2004, 03:02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Dux
Is there an over-the-counter equivalent available somewhere? I had a bad experience with mail-order lubricants before.


You should be able to find dealers at the website. I didn't check that. I was so impressed with this can I have that I googled for the manufacturer. I have had this can for years and years, so long in fact that I dont recall exactly where I got it.

If they dont list dealers at the website you might be able to email them and get the info you need that way.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Elfie on October 25, 2004, 03:03:31 PM
Overlag this is a non-sexual lubricant I assure you, so stop looking at the sheep like that!!  :D
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Overlag on October 25, 2004, 03:06:30 PM
well my x45 sucks too, but the pots have gone also, so lube wont save nothing :(
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Elfie on October 25, 2004, 03:15:44 PM
So go buy a brand new one at Best Buy, pay the 9.99 for the 2 year replacement warranty. Then when the pots or one of the many switches quit, take it back to Best Buy for a new one. Just make sure you pay the 9.99 again for another replacement warranty :)

Then on your new stick, use this lube I linked to avoid the sticking problems :)
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Dux on October 25, 2004, 04:15:31 PM
Thanks, Elfie. That grinding plastic base is my only complaint about the X45.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: AWMac on October 25, 2004, 04:19:44 PM
Same here.... that grinding noise is irritable.  I tried AstroGlide on it....didn't help much.

:(
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Elfie on October 25, 2004, 04:23:05 PM
Another idea, if you cant find a place to buy this particular lubricant look for another one that is Teflon based like this one.


I agree, that grinding base is most annoying :mad:
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Elfie on October 25, 2004, 04:40:39 PM
Order info can be found here.

http://www.certifiedlabs.com/certified/viewArticle.asp?article_id=1669&cat_id=9&cat_desc=FAQs&country=USA&countryName=United%20States&language_id=4&language=English

Dux, it appears that you can order by phone. At the very least you can speak with someone at the company and find out more info.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: VWE on October 25, 2004, 05:18:13 PM
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Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: debuman on October 25, 2004, 05:39:56 PM
I use Silicone Grease that I picked up in the Plumbing Department at Home Depot.  Put it on about 2 months ago, still working smoothly and squeak free.  I think I read about it on here somewhere.
I also tried powedered graphite, but it didn't last as long, and was very messy.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: RTSigma on October 25, 2004, 05:41:47 PM
I removed the spring on my X45 and the grinding noise stopped.

The spring itself I believe is TOO strong, putting too much force on the plate and causing early friction.

I recommend either finding a softer, less coiled spring or cutting it.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: pellik on October 25, 2004, 06:59:42 PM
Or just throw your out-dated x45 in a dumpster and buy a x52.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Tilt on October 25, 2004, 07:39:37 PM
Waiting for the X52.but expect the same problem as the X45.....cup on mine has been greased with a combination of candle wax shavings and vaseline.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Masherbrum on October 25, 2004, 07:48:22 PM
I used Garage door opener grease on mine 4 months ago.   The "squeak" is still gone.

Karaya
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Elfie on October 25, 2004, 08:06:22 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I used Garage door opener grease on mine 4 months ago.   The "squeak" is still gone.

Karaya


Now you have grease on your stick, which attracts dirt and its messy ;)


This stuff I linked is a dry spray, well it drys really fast heh and doesnt attract dirt, no mess :)
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: mora on October 25, 2004, 11:18:05 PM
I use silicone grease weekly on mine. Pots can be cleaned by dipping them in alcohol, or even by sparaying electric cleaner at the root of their shaft. Silicone spray is good for the microswitches, use it regularly and you won't have microswitches going out.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Speznaz on October 26, 2004, 06:25:30 AM
Graphite powder works fine.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: harry1 on October 26, 2004, 09:04:17 AM
Had the X45 forover 2 years,  (I thought it worked great) started giving me problems last week. So, when the wife akk wasnt looking, I ordered the CH products Combat stick, throttle and pedals (provantage.com) for $260.

WOW what a difference. I thought the Saitek was great, always laughed when people knocked it, but this CH stuff is smooth as silk. What a thrill at a merge to be able to keep the nose on the target with out the jumpiness I was used to in th X45.

The biggest difference (and the award goes to X45) is the set up. CH stuff wasnt easy to get running. And its been a long time since I set all my buttons and views so it was a little frustrating and time consuming. Still a work in progress.

I know it is a bit expensive, but sometimes you just have to say WTF, right?

So, looking forward to SMOOTHLY augering for your entertainment in the very near future.
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: Masherbrum on October 26, 2004, 09:18:17 AM
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Originally posted by Elfie
Now you have grease on your stick, which attracts dirt and its messy ;)


This stuff I linked is a dry spray, well it drys really fast heh and doesnt attract dirt, no mess :)


You would be wrong Dan-u-san.  :aok

Karaya
Title: X45 Joystick
Post by: kevykev56 on October 26, 2004, 08:14:08 PM
I went to the Automotive store, bought a stick of Lithium Grease. Just spread a little on the base of the stick and no problems since. The grease doesnt gum up.

RHIN0