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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Sandog on October 25, 2004, 08:55:25 PM
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http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark05.shtml
Downloading it now. post your scores.
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It's been out for a while. I got 4147 on it.
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What is it exactly for us out of the loop?
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nevermind, wonderous things happen when you explore the question for yourself....
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A big fat 925.
Pentium 4 2.0
512 ram
5900 xt with 128mb
3 year old Dell.... pathetic.
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Xtrem, would you mind shortening up the sig a bit. Thanks.
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Done, sorry bout that skuzzy. :)
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1370 score...
AMD 3200+
1 gig 3200
ATI 9800 pro 128MB
And I thought I had a good sys......
On what sys Skuzz... Pls post sys spec...
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Oh, 3.2Ghz P4 Northwood
1GB of ram
ATI X800Pro 256MB card.
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Come on Skuzzy, you know we cant do anything with that. Give us the SPEC sheet!!!
Thanks in advance!
Balsy:D
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Originally posted by maddog
1370 score...
AMD 3200+
1 gig 3200
ATI 9800 pro 128MB
And I thought I had a good sys......
On what sys Skuzz... Pls post sys spec...
Something wrong here - I think I have double that score with 512 DDR 2100, Radeon 9800pro 128mb and athlon xp 2600+....266fsb.
I will retest this evening and post the results, if accurate - something may be up with your machine
Acetnt
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Originally posted by Balsy
Come on Skuzzy, you know we cant do anything with that. Give us the SPEC sheet!!!
Thanks in advance!
Balsy:D
Now Balsy, I could fill 10 pages with specs on a computer system. I have learned, the hard way, giving out details about what is in a system usually causes more problems that it solves.
Someone will go out, buy all the components, get 75% of the score I got and then get mad at me for him not being able to tune it properly.
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Ok, fair enough, just ship me yours, and build yourself a new, better, faster one. :)
And BTW I'd take 75% of that score, its better than 3X my current one.
Balsy
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The only problem with that Balsy, is the Northwood CPU's are getting hard to find and there is no way I am going to waste my money on a Prescott P4.
This system is going to have to last me a long time.
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Speaking of huge scores check this out... the mobo to buy for xmas.
ASUS's nForce4 SLI board
Oct 22, 2004 - The ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard set a new 3Dmark05 record with a stunning 10,118 points during the recent Nvidia nForce4 launch conference. As the worldwide leader of motherboards, ASUS created the world's first motherboard with the capability to support SLI (Scalable Link Interface) and surpass the 10,000-point threshold.
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe The ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe is a dream gaming platform with dual-graphics card and dual-channel memory design that supports the K8 939 CPU. Designed with extreme performance in mind, the A8N-SLI Deluxe excels in speed, and conquered many 3D rendering challenges.
Besides supporting two PCI-express graphics cards and numerous exclusive ASUS SLI design, this powerful solution also features the popular ASUS AI Proactive features such as AI NOS and AI Net2. And this is not to mention a list of top specifications such as Serial ATA 2.0, 8 Serial ATA ports, 1394 interface, 10 USB Connections and 8-channel audio.
The ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe will be available in time for the Christmas season.
Source (http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=7268)
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1042
AMD XP2200.
512 mb ram.
Ati 9500 pro.
I need an upgrade.
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I got 2645
DFI LANPARTY NFII ULTRA B
AMD|2500 @11X200
A-I-W RADEON 9800PRO
DVD+/-RW LITEON LDW-811S/851S
DVD|LITE ON 16X XJ-HD166/165H
PC3000 HYPERX 512MB X2
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3725 w/4xaa
3895 w/no aa
Intel P4 3.0 cpu
ABit IC7 deluxe mb
dx 9.0c
win xp pro
raedon x800 pro 256mb
1gb RAM pc3200
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
system was custom built by DK Labs (skuzzy@verizon.net) :aok
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BT, did your X800Pro have anti-aliasing enabled? That score sure looks one with it enabled.
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Downloading it now. I should have a score up for my system soon.
Athlon64 3200+ 1MB cache 745 pin
Gigabyte K8N Pro
BFG Tech 6800 OC 128MB
1GB DDR400 ram
ATA-133 40GB Maxtor HDD
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2672....edit 2704 with 400 core 361 mem oced 9800 pro
asus a7n8x
XP2500 at 2300mhz 11.5x200
Ati 9800pro 128 on omega 4.10's
512 pc3200
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Score 3897
3.2g Northwood
1g PC3200 ram
6800GT
No aa/af
Going to try oc'ing the vid card this weekend.
Score 4351
Clock settings at 410/1.1g
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4676
AMD A64 3500
1 Gig Ballistix
OEM X800 Pro Vivo std clocks 475/450
However after flashing the bios of the X800 Pro Vivo to turn it into an X800 XTPE
with clocks of 520/560 using these settings 24/7 score now is
5881, still a tad low but i cant be asked to get into volt modding the card or to change the vid drivers to ones that score higher for 3DM.
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1050 no AA/AF
Dell P4 1.7
768MB Ram
FX5900 OC'd to 450 core 950 mem
what FPS were ya'll seeing.
I was getting like 9 max...that cant be good!!
I think its time to build something a tad faster
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Fauxbra, your video card is seriously outclassing your CPU. That is the old Willamette CPU and it was an abysmal CPU to start with.
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Oh my Lord - 249 here at 1024 no AA
P4 3.06 GHz (512 L2 Cache)
512 MB PC3200
GeForce Fx5200 (256MB)
Onboard Sound
17 Processes
Why oh why make a card that can use DirectX 9.0 if it throws up its hands in horror and becomes shellshocked at the first sight of it then?
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It's called 'marketing' Darkish. :)
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:p
Stirkes me as selling a Trabant with air con though.
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Well, it would work fine in the Trabant, as long as you did not turn it on. Same diff. :D
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Wow, pathetic
213 at 1024 with no AA
P4 3.2GHz
2048MB DDR333 RAM
GeForce FX5200 128MB AGP 8x
Time to get me a new video card!
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Thanks Skuzzy....i needed some good prodding to break down and buy a new Rig :)
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Scored a 2157. Any tips?
AMD 64 3200+
Asus K8V Motherboard
2x 512MB Memory
X800 Pro
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Ok, my score is 2108 (due to my slower fsb / ram methinks). It is still faster than your setup maddog - something is definitely up cause you got more muscle in your machine
Originally posted by acetnt367th
Something wrong here - I think I have double that score with 512 DDR 2100, Radeon 9800pro 128mb and athlon xp 2600+....266fsb.
I will retest this evening and post the results, if accurate - something may be up with your machine
Acetnt
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allright count me in....
lol i think i need to do some tweaking, but will find out when this things done downloading.
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lmao -1145
Radeon 9500 pro / 9700 (128mb)
AMD xp64 3200+
1.5 gb memory
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
Scored a 2157. Any tips?
AMD 64 3200+
Asus K8V Motherboard
2x 512MB Memory
X800 Pro
Bizarre. I cannot figure out how you managed to halve the performance you should be getting. There is definately something wrong there though.
You should be busting 4,000.
You forcing anti-aliasing? How about anisotropic filtering?
If neither, then I would say you have some stuff running in background eating CPU cycles up.
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Does your motherboard require the VIA chipset drivers ?
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Skuzzy, not quite sure man. Any suggestions on what I can do to fix these problems? Or turn antialiasing or anistropic off? Right now it is set to balanced, and antialiasing and anistropic are at "application preffernce".
Cavalier, I'll check those drivers out.
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2854
man i want to break 3000 this is addicting !!
xp 2500 @2300mhz
9800 pro @415 core 368 mem
512 pc3200
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Bizarre. I cannot figure out how you managed to halve the performance you should be getting. There is definately something wrong there though.
You should be busting 4,000.
You forcing anti-aliasing? How about anisotropic filtering?
If neither, then I would say you have some stuff running in background eating CPU cycles up.
so where does 1145 stand with similer specs...except card...
radeon 9500 pro / 9700?
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score: 2373
CPU: AMD Barton 2800+ (Stockspeed)
RAM: 1gig ( 2 x 512 cruical)
Vid: ATI 9800 pro 128
Sound: Audigy2
Whels
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killed processes down to 16..ran it..same thing, well - 1146 :)
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1153
amd 3000
512 3200 mem
ati 9800pro
Bingo
not good,,,,,no wonder my flying stinks,,,,,,lol
Got to blame something,,:)
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By all accounts Xtreme (everyone swears AMD is faster than Intel), you should be beating my system. I have a slower CPU, the same video card, and look at my score.
That was with the same video card settings you have. You should, at least equal the performance of my system. Just seems bizarre. Looks to me like you are giving up a lot of performance somewhere and the most likely culprit is Windows processes.
Note: The task manager does not show all the processes that are running. It only shows the EXE programs which are running (except the ones MS hides). There can be many DLL's running/loaded you do not know about. Spyware/Malware is a big culprit, but MS has some sneaky ones too, such as the ones associated with Media Player 9 and 10.
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Would you recommend doing a system restore and starting fresh? I would'nt know how to find those processes and stop them.
Also one more thing. Think I should use the Windows 64bit Edition? It's a 1 year trial, think I'd see any better performance? Then I'd think about buying it.
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i'm getting ready to get a new video card - looking at the x800pro, but also eyeballing the x800xt - any major differences? besides the 4 pixel pipelines? and price? Figure its about time to upgrade to a card that will keep me going for the next 2-3 years or more :)
lol extreme - i've been eyeballing the 64 bit-edition also :) Just not sure what the compatibilty will be witn some program I use - mainly proo-tools.
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X800 rocks Waffle. No matter which one ya get, you will be satisfied. :)
And now we wait for Skuzzy to solve our Windows 64 Bit Edition Problem. :)
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I don't have a good enough video card to even run it...
(Waa waa waaaaaaaaaan)
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I would not mess with the 64bit edition of Windows right now. It is a bit of a bandaid, and MS has all but said the 64bit version will not roll out until Longhorn ships next year.
There really is not much of a performance gain to be had.
Xtreme, I am not sure what to tell you about your system. You have a faster CPU than mine, same amount of ram, and same video card, and look at the score differences.
I think the only significant difference will be the way the OS is setup, but that would not account for that large of a difference between our systems.
Waffle, the X800XT has the 4 extra pipes, and slightly faster ram than the Pro. Right now, you are going to be CPU handicapped in most situations even with the Pro card. Your call.
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So maybe a system restore is the way to go, get a fresh start?
I havnt done anything to the way windows is setup, basically all stock the way it came.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Waffle, the X800XT has the 4 extra pipes, and slightly faster ram than the Pro. Right now, you are going to be CPU handicapped in most situations even with the Pro card. Your call.
AMD 64 3200+
Gigabyte K8NS pro
1.5 gb ram
scoring around 1130-1145 with ATI radeon 9500pro/9700
Limited by processor? If I bought an AGP x800 now, would it be wise and wait then for the PCI express to become more available? That seems to be the way things are heading..
Also, what's the difference if between an ATI xt800xt and say a gigabyte x800xt? just the manufacturers label?
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2532
AMD Thbred 2100 @ 2.1
Asus nforce2 mb
ATI 9500 using the latest Omega hacked driver 330/290
768Mb of 3200
shamus
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Application Preference, No AA
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/269_1099288238_321.gif)
With 4x AA 2260
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 191MB used, 3752MB available
256 RADEON 9800 XT AGP (0x4E4A)
Made By Dell Corporation
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Loaded the new drivers, 66.93 I belive and cleaned up some processes.
OC'd to 410 core, 1.1g mem
Score 5087 w/o aa
a 700 point improvement over my previous OC'd score.
P4 3.2g Northwoody
1g pc3200 ram
GeForce 6800GT
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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
AMD 64 3200+
Gigabyte K8NS pro
1.5 gb ram
scoring around 1130-1145 with ATI radeon 9500pro/9700
Limited by processor? If I bought an AGP x800 now, would it be wise and wait then for the PCI express to become more available? That seems to be the way things are heading..
Also, what's the difference if between an ATI xt800xt and say a gigabyte x800xt? just the manufacturers label?
Up to you on what to get. Some of the third party ATI manufacturers alter the cooling, might use different RAM, but they all use the same ATI reference desigh card. Some switch from the red to another color for the PC board.
As far as PCI Express goes, there is not real good reason to switch from AGP right now. It will be, at least, a year before the PCI Express bus has any measurable impact due to the lag in system software changes needed to take advantage of its new features.
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Offtopic: Run the 3Dmark05 demo and watch it through. What do you like about the music during end titles? Artist: Poets of the fall : Lift
Me likey :)
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I finally did mine ...
3728 not the greatest and far from the fastest .
Amd 2500+ M Barton @ 2.4ghz
512 ddr
crucial radeon 9600 pro
win 98se fully tweeked out and sp 1.5 with my few extra processes shut down (kb, av, nv mixer,printer)
Kinda wierd how the 64bit systems aint seeing the higher scores must be software related cause those pc's defentally run harder/faster.
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Roo, weird, that you got over 3000, I got 2300 with 9800pro and 3500+ amd, 1 gig memory!!!
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i think the benchmark program software is geared more for 32bit os's and applications
i dont think its giving a true reading at all in the 64 cpu
I also had to do quite a bit of fine tuning and tweeking to get that score . my 1st pass was 3400 area ,i also had to adjust a couple of irq's that were sharing .
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Got benchies on an Athlon 64 3800 (s939) running 3d mark using SLI
Top to bottom-
2x6600GTs SLI mode
2x6800 Ultras SLI mode
Single 6800 Ultra
ATI x800 pro
(http://www.planet3dnow.de/artikel/hardware/sli/img/3dmark05.png)
Serious speed there!!!!!
Would expect even more with an FX-55.
The highest score up to now is a pair of 6800s in SLI with an Athlon64 clocked at 2.6GHz - 10533!!!!
Looks like a nice start would be a single PCI-E 6800 then add another later when you want a big boost.
If only I had the cash to spend, how much for a couple of kidneys nowadays?
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4510 is that good ?
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Your in the ballpark for an x800.
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No he is not.
5860 is nearer the mark for his rig, or should be.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=150235
Thats my score with AMD 3500 1 gig mem and X800 pro modded to X800XT, 520 core 560 mem speeds.
Btw 3DM05 is virtually exclusively a graphics card test, the rest of the system makes very little difference.
I overclocked my cpu from 2.2 to 2.37 g and gained 20 points, however running AH i get a good fps increase.
If you browse some scores you will see slower cpus getting virtually the same score as long as they use the same graphics cards.
And who the hell is gonna buy 2 6600gt nvidias and SLI them when one X800XT gets the same score ?
The X800 will run all games full speed while the SLI 6600's will only work with games that Nvidia have coded for in the drivers and thats not many.
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updated the driver to 4.11 now i get 5764
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"Coded for in the drivers"?
I was under the impression that SLI was not game dependent but driver dependent, same as Voodoo SLI. That being as long as the drivers supported SLI the game would use it.
I used to have Voodoos running SLI, never had a problem running any Windows based games, support for SLI is in the drivers, not coded to specific games.
Some older games may need to be forced to use SLI, but that will be in option in future drivers.
Whole point was that a good starting point (at this time) would be a single 6800GT PCI-E, later on down the road you can add a second to really boost performance using SLI (something that ATI doesnt support at the moment).
Good example is the current 'High" score for 3Mark - 10533 using 2x6800 Ultras using SLI.
SLI = Higher performance at higher screen rez with AA etc turned up to max than a single card solution.
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5125
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Wow 1686.... Something's wrong I think. From what I see with comparable systems with NON overclocked CPUs/GPUs I'm still behind the grade.
[Edit] This is with my Vid Card set to performance. When set to best quality i'm getting 1143.
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Also don't forget Aquamark, another testing program out there.
Why? Becuase Aquamark (downloading it now) claims to use DX 7, 8, and 9 (not exclusively 9, like 3DMark05 -- which apparently won't run on a Ge Ti4400 128MB)
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Kev
When buying an SLI system you should note that not all games work with this mode. Without the right SLI profile in the driver the game runs only on one card with SLI activated, and sometimes even more slowly than when SLI is deactivated. The game's age and level of 3D technology also play a large role.
And
Even our efforts to force SLI operation through the expanded driver settings had no effect. After talking with NVIDIA we learned the cause: SLI is not available with some games. NVIDIA has so-called SLI Profiles for games that are defined in the driver. The driver recognizes the game via application detection and executes the SLI mode (split or balancing) designated for that profile. If no SLI profile exists for a game, there is no SLI rendering. It is not possible to force SLI mode or generate your own profile. According to NVIDIA however the driver already contains over 50 profiles for games running with SLI. For newer titles this therefore means that SLI system owners have to wait for a new driver. But even then there is no guarantee that SLI will be possible with a particular game.
Taken from
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041123/index.html
And its not the only reference.
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Read that review Cav.
Also read others where it says an option to force SLI is in upcoming drivers. You will have an option of 3 modes, you just choose which works best. This info was available at the time the article was written, Tom just decided to omit it (see explanation below).
Even then games are being added to the list all the time, it's now closer to 100 than 50. Still gonna work out that SLI will outperform any single card, especially as you increase the screen res and up AA etc.
Remember it's still in its infancy, gonna be problems at the start.
Still say a good bet is a single 6800GT then adding another further down the line to gain a big performance boost.
As for Tomshardware, I gave up relying on him for unbiased reviews a long long time ago. Well known he is 'in bed' with Intel and ATI.
One of his most notorious ones was putting a single Opteron up against dual Xeons and then saying the Xeons win. Well DUH guess they would. Tom 'sold out' many years ago to Intel. I used to be regular reader up till that point.
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hehe new card showed up in the mail today - x800 pro...figure I bought the last one 3 years ago- this should do for about as long, I hope :)
Previous Score - 1145
Now 4579.
Still not done with my winter project, have to do one more drive ito set up in an array - waiting on cables (best buy wanted 17$ bucks for a 3 dollar cable..lol) - and the new faster ram should be here this week :)
Guess in a year or so, I can upgrade MOBO/Processor - lol
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Waffle did you spring the extra 10 bucks for the VIVO version ?
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nah, just the standard ATI version of the x800pro. Take it VIVO is Video in /Video out? -
Not a big multimedia person here video wise...lol
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Well I feel better after reading all the post.
just got me a BFG 6800oc 128Mb (just the plain one no Gt or Ultra)
score? 2900. I was hopeing for better.
Think I can do better? Should I be better? suggjestions?
Amd athlon xp 2500+ (not OC'ed so running 1.8Mh?)
1Gig Geil ram DDR 400 (running at DDR 333)
Abit KD-7 Raid MoBO
2X WD 80 Gig HDs
BFG GF 6800oc 128MB (has the GOOD cooling) AGP Running at 1.54 volts, should be 1.6V according to BFG. (no adjustment in Bios)
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Kev
And
Taken from
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041123/index.html
And its not the only reference.
You can force SLI, Whels uses it now for AH2.
You just manually edit an xml file to include AH2 or any other game and off you go. Big choice you make is which version of SLI to use.