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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: moot on October 26, 2004, 03:32:43 AM
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recipe for ****.
I always found political talk boring and heavy, just bad taste, but seeing it first hand after years in the US, it's just backasswards.
My father worked abroad in the USSR a lot, way back then, and even at that age I somewhat understood the general concepts of what I saw in the media and what he mentionned, but didn't take it seriously because I realized there was more to it than I knew, and already had recognized political talk was rarely rational.
I'd idealized the french a lot while I was gone, remembering only the good points, but I can't help but "hear" the right-wing comments about "leftists" being whiners.
The people are feeding the system rather than the opposite. And I don't mean just money.
Absurd.
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I'm not sure I get your point either Moot :)
That being said, the word "Socialist" in France (and Belgium) is not used in the same sense as it would be in the old eastern block, it's what you would call "Liberal" in the US. What you would refer to as "Socialist" would be called "Communist" over here. That is if you look at their party lines.
The "Liberal" party over here is what you would call "Republican" ... kind of confusing realy. The other difference is that we would have about 10 different effective parties forming the government, as compared to 2 parties, with big fuzzy words being used all the time like "coalition", "collaboration", etc...
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hehe, americans get strange twitches and convulsions when they hear "socialism" :)
Bozon
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kerrie is a socialist.
lazs
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(my post kinda lost it's way)
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LOL Iron. I had to look that one up... too fantastic to be true :D
It isn't :)
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Originally posted by Octavius
LOL Iron. I had to look that one up... too fantastic to be true :D
It isn't :)
damn, now I have to find another, spoilsport ;)
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Semantics.
This country, its govt system, the effects on and countereffects from society, mixed with its culture, economics, etc.
It sucks.
fun for vacation, fun to appreciate the local **** as with any other place, but certainly not for anything longer, anything permanent.
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Bush is a socialist.
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Bush is nothing but a dangerous religious fanatic.
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You know I never really did see any religious fanaticism from Bush. I don't understand how he got that label outside of pandering for votes to the true fanatics (namely pentacostals) and other uber conservative christian groups. If he seriously bought into that, you'd here him preach during speeches, and we'd see him with his hands in the air and convulsing at a service.
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today, john heinz-kerry, while campaigning in a church said, to vote for him was to "walk in the footsteps of Jesus".
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Originally posted by Octavius
You know I never really did see any religious fanaticism from Bush. I don't understand how he got that label outside of pandering for votes to the true fanatics (namely pentacostals) and other uber conservative christian groups. If he seriously bought into that, you'd here him preach during speeches, and we'd see him with his hands in the air and convulsing at a service.
Maybe because he mentions god in more than a few sentences and how he was placed in the whitehouse by god to do his work?
(http://istanbul.indymedia.org/uploads/chuckman_-_bush_-_god_put_in_white_house.jpg)
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The Jesus Factor.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/etc/synopsis.html
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Nilsen unlike your country, USA doesn't really have seperation of church and state. And most americans are very religious, and frankly don't want seperation of church and state. In fact I think they'd just like to see the irreligous just leave the country.
So it's understandable how your definition of religous fanatic is different from the avg american's. In america the term religious fanatic is usually reserved for the members of the most unpopular religious sects.
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Originally posted by Suave
Nilsen unlike your country, USA doesn't really have seperation of church and state. And most americans are very religious, and frankly don't want seperation of church and state. In fact I think they'd just like to see the irreligous just leave the country.
So it's understandable how your definition of religous fanatic is different from the avg american's. In america the term religious fanatic is usually reserved for the members of the most unpopular religious sects.
Or Norweigians in funny hats. :D
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Actually its not seperated here either yet, but politics and and religion is not mixed in the election and the running of the country. Not even the one religious party we have and the priest we have as PM mixes poltics and religion.
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Originally posted by storch
Or Norweigians in funny hats. :D
leave my hat out of this!! :o